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hyperknees91 said: Ragna92 said: arsonal said: Putting things into perspective... Little Busters! ~Refrain~ episode 11 vs. The IDOLM@STER episode 20 http://imgur.com/kKZnjYH Wow a show can have that many 5/5s for an episode and still have such a low score. How do you guys show the score like that anyway? I tried but couldn't figure it out. Gintama enchousen episode 7 has 97% 5/5s so that beats all. Holy crap and I thought Jojo had the highest rating for an episode on this site. Man Gintama...I watch you so slowly, I feel like I'll never get to that episode ahhh. Did no one here see Aria the Origination? Episode 12 has 97.5% 5/5 http://puu.sh/5PVb9.png |
| Dammit those farewells. Now I have entered depression. Know to wonder how it's going to end. (Sighs) |
| After finding out everyone died in that accident except Riki and Rin. Will Little Busters end on a happy note?? Like Clannad: AS or Angel Beats open ended ending? |
game8910 said: Did no one here see Aria the Origination? Episode 12 has 97.5% 5/5 http://puu.sh/5PVb9.png That´s because anyone can hate ARIA. |
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Vladz0r said: planetarian said: Masato leaving was shit in the anime Masato leaving was shit in the visual novel #Blamethesourcematerialformakingmasatoashittycharacteringeneralnottheanime Heh, that pretty much is what this thread is about. They could've spiced up his farewell, because he WAS the main comedic relief of the entire series. I imagined a stoic farewell with Masato turning and slowly walking away, hand waving while he's facing away from Riki as he slowly disintegrates and disappears while Riki is in awe. He wasn't dynamic, but he was around for a while and entertained a lot of people. It could've been a cool impact if they utilized him a bit differently. To bad we can not have that since people will bitch about the changes... People are even bitching about the lack of white background. God forbids that J.C. Staff strays. |
game8910 said: Did no one here see Aria the Origination? Episode 12 has 97.5% 5/5 http://puu.sh/5PVb9.png I looked at ep 13 and saw it like 95.54% 5/5. I didn't realize episode 12's was higher. As for the Masato thing, I think his "new farewell" was consistent with his season 1 character. High pitched, silly as hell to the end, and those were the feelings Masato put into it. The VN Masato is more rough, argumentative, and absurd, and that VN farewell worked well for him. I guess people who liked anime Masato will have liked his farewells, but I still felt like his characterization all in all in the VN was fun as hell, while he's a whiny punching bag to the end. Those flashbacks of him getting kicked 5 times by Kurugaya in the episode... Masato's love on muscles in the VN/Anime combined with them making him skinny in the anime changed how believable episode 8 was, and his character change resulted in a change in execution of his farewell. I think it's as simple as the anime version of him being consistently inconsistent with the VN. AnimeFan500 said: After finding out everyone died in that accident except Riki and Rin. Will Little Busters end on a happy note?? Like Clannad: AS or Angel Beats open ended ending? It's post-AIR Key. |
| Spoiler tags ahead~ After AIR, Maeda felt bad about [spoiller]killing off another heroine, so he's changed his storytelling style since then and has never truly killed off a main character/heroine again, or have a depressing final ending. The few things exempt from would be things like Miyuki having already died in the real world, (Little Busters EX spoiler) Basically, Key's been pretty soft on their readers with the endings ever since Air. |
| I think it was more of a pressure-related anxiety he felt towards the fans rather than something of his own volition. |
| I have a question ahha. In the "real world", before Kyousuke started up this near-death world to help Riki and Rin face the tragedy, did the Little Busters exist the way it did in the show? Like, was Kurugaya and Mio and Kud all friends with Riki/Rin/Kengo etc? Or were the other girls just thrown in to the fake world? |
GarLogan78 said: I have a question ahha. In the "real world", before Kyousuke started up this near-death world to help Riki and Rin face the tragedy, did the Little Busters exist the way it did in the show? Like, was Kurugaya and Mio and Kud all friends with Riki/Rin/Kengo etc? Or were the other girls just thrown in to the fake world? yes |
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Funya-Usagi said: GarLogan78 said: I have a question ahha. In the "real world", before Kyousuke started up this near-death world to help Riki and Rin face the tragedy, did the Little Busters exist the way it did in the show? Like, was Kurugaya and Mio and Kud all friends with Riki/Rin/Kengo etc? Or were the other girls just thrown in to the fake world? yes Which one? XD Also, why did Masato see everyone as himself a few episodes back? I don't get why that happened at all. |
GarLogan78 said: I have a question ahha. In the "real world", before Kyousuke started up this near-death world to help Riki and Rin face the tragedy, did the Little Busters exist the way it did in the show? Like, was Kurugaya and Mio and Kud all friends with Riki/Rin/Kengo etc? Or were the other girls just thrown in to the fake world? I'm not really too knowledgeable about LB, not as much as Vlad xD but the way I interpreted it, the girls knew Riki and the others, well maybe except for Mio, but weren't really close friends, just friendly classmates. The world Kyousuke and the others created was based on the events of the real world, but had differences like the baseball team forming where everyone becomes a close group and stuff |
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GarLogan78 said: Funya-Usagi said: GarLogan78 said: I have a question ahha. In the "real world", before Kyousuke started up this near-death world to help Riki and Rin face the tragedy, did the Little Busters exist the way it did in the show? Like, was Kurugaya and Mio and Kud all friends with Riki/Rin/Kengo etc? Or were the other girls just thrown in to the fake world? yes Which one? XD Also, why did Masato see everyone as himself a few episodes back? I don't get why that happened at all. Someone else can explain it, but to condense it, Kyousuke made that happen. |
| @GarLogan http://imgur.com/a/fSJLK Ctrl+f "Riki reforming the Little Busters" I have an explanation for his arc in there, along with plenty of other stuff. |
fauzty said: Those flashbacks of him getting kicked 5 times by Kurugaya in the episode... Masato's love on muscles in the VN/Anime combined with them making him skinny in the anime changed how believable episode 8 was, and his character change resulted in a change in execution of his farewell. I think it's as simple as the anime version of him being consistently inconsistent with the VN. Ooo I think I got it. Masato's teeth growing back each time is proof of the time loops and the Secret of the World magical phenomena. Also, Kurugaya was wearing no pantsu in the third picture, thus Masato's feeling of ecstacy as he peaked under her skirt. This is pretty deep. |
smilewolfy said: GarLogan78 said: I have a question ahha. In the "real world", before Kyousuke started up this near-death world to help Riki and Rin face the tragedy, did the Little Busters exist the way it did in the show? Like, was Kurugaya and Mio and Kud all friends with Riki/Rin/Kengo etc? Or were the other girls just thrown in to the fake world? I'm not really too knowledgeable about LB, not as much as Vlad xD but the way I interpreted it, the girls knew Riki and the others, well maybe except for Mio, but weren't really close friends, just friendly classmates. The world Kyousuke and the others created was based on the events of the real world, but had differences like the baseball team forming where everyone becomes a close group and stuff I know that all the different girl's troubles made Riki stronger, but it seems like introducing him to MORE friends who would end up dead is kind of counter productive. "Riki, I need you to be strong enough to get over my, Masato, and Kengo's deaths. To do that, become very close to like 5 more girls who are going to die". IDK. |
GarLogan78 said: smilewolfy said: GarLogan78 said: I have a question ahha. In the "real world", before Kyousuke started up this near-death world to help Riki and Rin face the tragedy, did the Little Busters exist the way it did in the show? Like, was Kurugaya and Mio and Kud all friends with Riki/Rin/Kengo etc? Or were the other girls just thrown in to the fake world? I'm not really too knowledgeable about LB, not as much as Vlad xD but the way I interpreted it, the girls knew Riki and the others, well maybe except for Mio, but weren't really close friends, just friendly classmates. The world Kyousuke and the others created was based on the events of the real world, but had differences like the baseball team forming where everyone becomes a close group and stuff I know that all the different girl's troubles made Riki stronger, but it seems like introducing him to MORE friends who would end up dead is kind of counter productive. "Riki, I need you to be strong enough to get over my, Masato, and Kengo's deaths. To do that, become very close to like 5 more girls who are going to die". IDK. #Kyousukelogic. and what about Rin then? the girls were there to make her learn how to make friends, if she was already close with them in the real world I don't think there would have been much of a problem since she'd learnt to have friends besides her childhood ones~ I dunno :3 and I think the girls helped create the world so they can get over their regrets too, that's why the other people on the bus weren't a part of Kyousukes world |
smilewolfyDec 17, 2013 8:16 PM
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| Riki was always closest to the main 5 Little Busters, and that's whose memories are engraved in Riki's memories and where the climactic emotion is concentrated at. Riki and Rin already knew the other LB classmates, but their memories between May 13th and June 20th are gone in the dream world. They're thing that have been forgotten in the dream world. I can't tell how Riki helping out the girls make him feel closer to all of them, because he forgets about those relationships in the VN one by one, and in the Refrain arc, Riki doesn't even mention the girls at all. I don't think any amount of preparation in the dream world could prepare Riki and Rin for that despair, honestly. Even the preparation in itself is just delaying the inevitable, and more time spent definitely gives the audience more of an emotional impact, and probably hurts Riki and Rin more as well. |
| this is it.. we are close with the end.. I HOPE IT IS GONNA BE A HAPPY END! :) |
wherethecowsfly said: game8910 said: Did no one here see Aria the Origination? Episode 12 has 97.5% 5/5 http://puu.sh/5PVb9.png That´s because anyone can hate ARIA. Sorry for going OOT, but I can't comprehend at the idea of someone hating ARIA. Yeah, I can see if someone find that it's boring, but hate-inducing? I have no idea how. Fanboy-induced shameful promotion below: On the topic : As for Kyousuke's logic, I think that there's a more simple reason for Kyousuke and others to create the world. Yes, they want to prepare Riki and Rin to met the cruel reality, but deep inside I think they really want to meet again with Riki and Rin, being together again, and say a proper farewell. I think anyone who were suddenly given an opportunity to delay their unavoidable death must be thinking the same thing: They want to spend their last time with the one that they love, probably including doing some fun thing and forgetting about their incoming goodbye for a while (thus baseball idea was born). |
zeroyuki92Dec 18, 2013 7:15 AM
| With the way Jun Maeda wrote Refrain, I always felt as though the characters are indirectly giving a hint at the story's purpose. The dream world is stated to be a place for Riki and Rin to go strong. Maeda confirmed in the full version of Boys Be Smile that the world creation was a "miracle", a sort of last wish or quest (though the miracle aspect may have been obvious already). Each of the girls wanted to resolve their earthly ties, and thus they had their problems solved in the dream world. Riki said that "everyone's feelings and emotions" were put into this world. I think when you combine all of that with the common wish for one to want to extend their last moments, Maeda gave us multiple interpretations for the cause of the dream world. It seems like Key's past works are always work towards similar interpretations of stories. Kanon has promises, miracles, and dreams, Clannad has otherworldly supernatural events, Little Busters' supernatural events are driven by the dream world, and then Angel Beats has loads of similar themes from the previous stories, etc. The Dream World theory was actually something Maeda used with "technically" Key work called "One"- http://vndb.org/v51 I think Maeda's come a long way with how closely the story is inevitably tied together, though he still needs some work, and it's funny how the adaptations actually improve that aspect of his works in some ways. |
| That was such a good episode! Not sure about the VN (Will play it soon) but i was flooding my room with tears that doesnt seems to stop throughout the entire episode. Kyousuke's seiyuu did an awesome job with that scene. |
ArcanaTrace said: Kyousuke's seiyuu did an awesome job with that scene. Someone said that Midorikawa Hikaru (VA) stated on twitter that he cried during this scene while he recorded. I think the passion he has as Kyousuke's voice actor really made this scene come to life and led to a pretty good conclusion. If it had voice acting only on the level of the VN, I don' think it would've been nearly as impactful or convincing. All that practice with the Little Busters radio shows really worked out well this season. |
| @Jim Yeah, I was talking on /a/ a while ago. Kotomi mentions the theory that connects the worlds. Kud mentions a sort of many-worlds theory, and Komari's stories hella foreshadow the dream world aspect of LB. You could say that the many-worlds thing could be how everyone's memories from the time loop get reset, but they still keep parts of it in the end. |
Vladz0rDec 19, 2013 5:52 PM
| For me, Kyousuke's part is the only scene in anything I've watched that hits me harder after every subsequent re-watch. First time: Yeah pretty good, no tears though. nth time: ;_; Midorikawa, deserves a medal. EDIT: well this is awkward, I just realized I posted in the wrong thread. At least it still makes sense. |
egnaro15Dec 20, 2013 1:20 AM
| Holy fucking shit... That's all I have to say after just marathoning all of Little Busters and Little Busters: Refrain in the last 2 days. My God, I've never seen such a depressing anime in my life, and I've seen Clannad, Kanon, ef-a tale of melodies, Ano Hana, Chrno Crusade, Angel Beats, Katanagatari, etc. Shit, I don't think I can think of an anime more depressing than this. These last 3 or 4 episodes have been heart-wrenching. I've never played the VN so I didn't know what to expect coming into this. All I can say is I don't think I've spent so many hours crying at a computer screen, yet still pushing through to find out what happens. Man, this next week and a half is going to be brutal. Why did I have to watch this right before Christmas?! :-/ So much emotion put into this entire series. Bravo, J.C. Staff and Key...for putting together one of the most endearing, emotional anime I've ever seen...I certainly hope the last two episodes finish strong. I can't wait to see where this series goes from here. |
| I've known since before the anime started airing that this would be coming (accidentally spoilered myself, has been very upsetting this whole time lol) and it still rocked me. The past few episodes got me teared up, but this one finally caused a few tears to slip out and no anime has ever gotten me to do that before. When Kyousuke was walking across the field and it showed flashes of all the girls...it was almost too much. Dem goodbyes by the guys, dat lineup at the end it the school. Fucking fantastic. And to everybody saying that it could have been better, cut them some slack. Trying to adapt serving like this probably wasn't that easy and complaining about it isn't going to change anything. I for one thought that J.C. Staff did a damn good job. |
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Vladz0r said: I think it was more of a pressure-related anxiety he felt towards the fans rather than something of his own volition. Air spoiler beware |
| Planetarian's logic = too good. Clannad/LB ending spoilers. |
| I am having Angel Beats feelings... Everyone... Masato... Rin... Kengo... Riki... Kyousuke... These 5 should always be together, that bond... Kyousuke cried... 11/10... I have lost my words... |
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| Just... wow Kyousuke is going to my favourite characters list right now... |
| I liked Kyousuke's part. Too bad that as an anime only watcher I didn't really give a shit about any of the girls. |
-Atomsk- said: ur forum avatar shows how I looked like during the girl's goodbyes. Except Kurugaya's..dat smile..I liked Kyousuke's part. Too bad that as an anime only watcher I didn't really give a shit about any of the girls. |
epic_joelle said: -Atomsk- said: ur forum avatar shows how I looked like during the girl's goodbyes. Except Kurugaya's..dat smile..I liked Kyousuke's part. Too bad that as an anime only watcher I didn't really give a shit about any of the girls. So true. The girls' boring presence in the VN pretty much overwrote how much I loved them back when I had played the VN. Including the girls in the farewells was a nice idea, but they didn't feel as memorable from the show, especially at this point. It was anime-original, so I guess it's reasonable not to feel a whole lot for those extra parts. Ep12 spoiler |
| I cried. I cried so hard. |
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| My tears weren't ready...i haven't cried like this since Angel Beats. Kengo's goodbye was too much for me... |
| Dem feels. |
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| Pretty well done episode, but for some reason I just didn't get dem feels. But I'm intrigued to find out what happens next. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| Wow, this actually had a bit of impact, but... not enough at all. Some of the plot made me facepalm myself, wtf is dis? This should've had a shitload of impact, this execution is just mediocre... |
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