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Fai said: Sapewloth said: Yeah, the "post" refers to how the stress disorder takes place after the traumatic experience. Kirito's traumatic experience was killing people, not being stuck in Sword Art Online. the traumatic experience extends through whole SAO incident for him - every day was a nightmare of survival and honing one's skills and be or be killed. SAO for him only ended when he got Asuna out of ALO, and then majority of his psychological problems kicked in full gear(Even though they slowly reared their heads through SAO and ALO but the "damn it i am about to be killed gotta survive" situations did not allow his psyche to dwell on it for too long). Its very akin with how it is with war veterans in real life I simply can't agree with that, because that'd be invalidating everything SAO actually meant to Kirito: even though being an occasional front-liner and staying ahead of the leveling curve were harsh, and he went on a big ass and very inconsistent guilt trip because of Sachi & co., from the very beginning he stated he felt more alive in Aincrad than IRL. And his stance on the validity of online interactions was confirmed throughout all of the first half of the first season. In SAO, he made friends and formed strong and lasting bonds with 'em; met the love of his life and then formed a family with her and their virtual daughteru Yui, and also learned other reasons to live and things to protect (thus overcoming the loss of his guild); was ahead of the game and surpassed everyone in terms of skillz, and was even rewarded for that (double wielding skill). There were even occasional discussions between Asuna and Kirito about how they (as well as many other players) seemed to get more and more accustomed to their life in Aincrad and how splendid this VR actually was if you took time to appreciate its beauty and what it had to offer. Sure he suffered his lot in SAO, but at the end of the day the experience was more rewarding and positive to him than anything else, because this is where he was able to come out of his shell and experienced true love and happiness. That's why I stand by my point that SAO wans't in itself, traumatizing: being forced to kill was. |
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| I don't know what it is about A-1 Pictures but they seem utterly incapable of animating an interesting looking fight or really interesting action scene period beyond the first 3 episodes of their series in what seems to be becoming a pattern of mediocrity. To know other animation studio does the 3 episodes rule apply nor change it's meaning to it indicating where the rising tension peaks than with A-1 Pictures. It's always been a problem with this franchise in particular but I felt they might maybe just maybe be getting past that finally with episode 2 which was the first time I can remember being really pulled into a fight in pretty much any one of their series in recent memory. Nope though. They just seem content to rely on their Yuki Kajiura or Hiroyuki Sawano or x popular artist music blaring in the background, a couple of quick cuts with dull uninspired choreography, one and done and that's it style of combat. Just no passion, no inspiration......I don't even know why they bother really sometimes. What's worse their overhead Aniplex seems to be exporting this lack of inspiration or passion for the animation to other studios of late like Madhouse with Mahouka where you can just tell they barely give a fuck with most of action cuts in the show. That one and done get it over with and get on to the next scene feel is very much evident there too, but when you look at something like Hunter x Hunter or hell even No Game No Life the passion for the animation is there. Just blah....I really don't like this company if there's any secret to it anymore and am again reminded with this episode why I think they're chief among culprits when it comes to making a lot of popular and anticipated anime turn out kind of shitty and devoid of any real artistic merit and again passion. At least their presence doesn't seem to have foiled Watanabe in Terror in Resonance. Other than that this arc takes one step closer to it's conclusion and like most arcs everyone around him is basically just forced to accept that they'll never be as good as Kirito......even when he's not really trying. |
PeacingOutAug 13, 2014 2:35 PM
| There was a lot of hype potential in this episode. It was good, but could have been much better. I felt Sinon's and Kirito's match should have been more epic, but that's just me. Kirito's going to have a lot to explain when Asuna finds out about how he held Sinon. |
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D5 said: I still can't get over swatting bullets away with the sword. No matter how fast your reflexes are, this is rapid fire... if you can move that fast, just evade altogether.... but he was always an over-powererd character so, meh, I guess I should expect it. It just doesn't feel right though. Like the quasi-romantic ending, good for laughs. Well, there is that red prediction line that helps... and he did have the fastest reaction time in SAO..... and besides. Regardless if one is pro or not, if theres a maniac running toward u swinging a lightsaber around, your accuracy bound to decrease. |
| after every episode in this series i've found myself thinking "was that it?" barely anything happens in each episode and it's a little disappointing. even so, the little that happened was still entertaining also i can't believe Kirito held Sinon like that when he has a girlfriend... |
bakapuntAug 13, 2014 6:55 PM
| Damn I missed Kirito's and Asuna's avatar in SAO. Glad to see it again. I thought they would show more Kirito jedi action before his fight with Sinon but oh well. This was the end of vol. 5 right? So we're already halfway through the Phantom Bullet arc. |
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| Kirito just made a single slash to try to block the bullet, he knew the general position of the bullet, left leg, so as soon as Sinon pulled the trigger, he slashed, pretty sure he didn't react to the bullet itself but the shot, well, it's more logical to think that way, but hey, its anime. bakapunt said: after every episode in this series i've found myself thinking "was that it?" barely anything happens in each episode and it's a little disappointing. even so, the little that happened was still entertaining also i can't believe Kirito held Sinon like that when he has a girlfriend... Well, thats certainly the position you hold someone when you put a knife close to his/her face, the problem is why so long, wtf, lol. He should've let go of her much faster. |
Reyxe said: He can't resist the best girl.Well, thats certainly the position you hold someone when you put a knife close to his/her face, the problem is why so long, wtf, lol. He should've let go of her much faster. |
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Botato said: Reyxe said: He can't resist the best girl.Well, thats certainly the position you hold someone when you put a knife close to his/her face, the problem is why so long, wtf, lol. He should've let go of her much faster. If you will focus, you'll find that Sinon stumbled and she was about to fall on the ground but Kirito pulled her while putting his sword close to her nick. most likely he didn't want to let go of her because he was afraid she'd shoot 'em ofc. :D |
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| This is such a horrible retcon job.....meh can't say I expected any better considering how terrible the show is in general. |
SimmianPrime said: This is such a horrible retcon job.....meh can't say I expected any better considering how terrible the show is in general. Oc, ezho ezpero Reyxe said: Botato said: He can't resist the best girl. +999999. +6E35 |
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Rolanddeschain said: SimmianPrime said: This is such a horrible retcon job.....meh can't say I expected any better considering how terrible the show is in general. Oc, ezho ezpero Reyxe said: +999999. +6E35 That doesn't fit on my calculator. |
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Xari said: Rolanddeschain said: Oc, ezho ezpero +6E35 That doesn't fit on my calculator. Thus it shall be + 6.5x10^ 35 |
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SimmianPrime said: Retcon?This is such a horrible retcon job.....meh can't say I expected any better considering how terrible the show is in general. |
Satan-sama said: You must be fun at parties.Botato said: He can't resist the best girl. If you will focus, you'll find that Sinon stumbled and she was about to fall on the ground but Kirito pulled her while putting his sword close to her nick. most likely he didn't want to let go of her because he was afraid she'd shoot 'em ofc. :D |
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ssjokg said: SimmianPrime said: Retcon?This is such a horrible retcon job.....meh can't say I expected any better considering how terrible the show is in general. Are you asking about what the word retcon means in general or what the specific retcon in this episodes was? A retcon is when something that was previously established is changed retroactively. The retcon in this episode was the whole LC attack/killing thing and Kirito suddenly having ptsd. |
SimmianPrime said: It was said in season one that Kirito was one of the reasons the guild was destroyed.ssjokg said: Retcon? Are you asking about what the word retcon means in general or what the specific retcon in this episodes was? A retcon is when something that was previously established is changed retroactively. The retcon in this episode was the whole LC attack/killing thing and Kirito suddenly having ptsd. It isnt retcon to have a trauma for killing real people.In the novel he even stated to have nightmares if he was alone after he killed Kuradeel(although the whole event is a reason as well).I dont remember if it was in the anime but Kuradeel also called him a murderer to mess him up. Now I am asking if you know what a retcon is. |
| Goddammit I thought they were gonna kiss. Kirito x Sinon is the best ship |
zetsubousei_hero said: Nah Alucard could absolutely destroy himKirito is God himself. Dude is the most OP character of all time. Every single strong Anime character would not even stand a chance. Can't see how Kirito is scare of death gun. |
SeriuS said: You are still watching this even though you gave the first season a 3? You must like it to some degree if it's kept your interest for this long.Mace Kirito manages to break the game once again by cutting bullets in half. I haven't laughed that much since Mars of Destruction |
lx_theo said: Because it's Sword Art Online. Even the nurse wants Kirito's D.PLEASE DO NOT TURN SINON INTO A LOVE INTEREST EITHER WAY. For goodness's sake. Why can't a character just be a character and not go gah gah over Kirito. |
FapAttack said: You bragging about how long you can keep watching SAO despite hating the first season? Good for you now burn in hell for tainting this thread with your hate comments.How was it only now Kirito gets traumatized by the people he killed. And those people he killed were gonna kill him anyway. Its self defense and ur saving lives why u feel bad ajksndalalal. And dang, everyone watching that finals match must've been like " wow. Collusion or not that was anticlimactic ." And now sooner or later Simon will be a part of a harem. Again /end rant. |
ChaoticSilence said: Godtsuya says hizetsubousei_hero said: Nah Alucard could absolutely destroy himKirito is God himself. Dude is the most OP character of all time. Every single strong Anime character would not even stand a chance. Can't see how Kirito is scare of death gun.  |
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Botato said: ChaoticSilence said: Godtsuya says hiNah Alucard could absolutely destroy him Saitama from One-punch man is actually the strongest anime character I have seen. |
ssjokg said: Regardless of that retcon thingy, what happened in the LN is irrelevant. The thing is we had no idea up until this point that Kirito suffered any form of trauma from killing Kuradeel or anyone else. Cause it was never mentionned nor hinted at.SimmianPrime said: It was said in season one that Kirito was one of the reasons the guild was destroyed.Are you asking about what the word retcon means in general or what the specific retcon in this episodes was? A retcon is when something that was previously established is changed retroactively. The retcon in this episode was the whole LC attack/killing thing and Kirito suddenly having ptsd. It isnt retcon to have a trauma for killing real people.In the novel he even stated to have nightmares if he was alone after he killed Kuradeel(although the whole event is a reason as well).I dont remember if it was in the anime but Kuradeel also called him a murderer to mess him up. Now I am asking if you know what a retcon is. |
SapewlothAug 15, 2014 8:18 PM
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| I'm a bit unsure about what I think of the series thus far, this episode had the fabled line where Kirito says; "If that bullet could also kill a player in the real world... and if you didn't shoot them... you or someone you love would be killed... could you still pull the trigger?" This line is wasted on a character like Sinon, who doesn't even realize the gravity of Kirito's words. Just seemed terribly melodramatic for SAO. The character Sinon and her entire backstory just seems so uninteresting to me, versus the first season of Kirito battling for his life. Regardless, I still have a ton of enthusiasm to see what GGO has in store for Kirito, and the rest of the episode was full of suspense. |
KitsuenAug 15, 2014 12:18 PM
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| Well... looks like we're gonna have to add another one to his Harem. 5/5 |
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za21 said: Botato said: Godtsuya says hi Saitama from One-punch man is actually the strongest anime character I have seen. Chuck Norris plz Annon said: This episode was so cheesy, almost unwatchable. Meh There´s cheesier stuff on other anime or in SAO itself xD Or with you and your girlfriend (assuming you have one) |
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ssjokg said: It was said in season one that Kirito was one of the reasons the guild was destroyed. It isnt retcon to have a trauma for killing real people.In the novel he even stated to have nightmares if he was alone after he killed Kuradeel(although the whole event is a reason as well).I dont remember if it was in the anime but Kuradeel also called him a murderer to mess him up. Now I am asking if you know what a retcon is. Absolute rubbish (unless I'm having a total memory blank) where exactly in S1 was is said that Kirito destroyed the LC guild? It was never even stated (again, if my memory is serving me correctly) that the LC was destroyed at all. That's part of the problem, they were brought up on one or two occasions and then never mentioned again. But suddenly now out of nowhere it turns out that there was some epic traumatic battle against them (that was never mentioned) Even some of the most die hard SAO fans I know fully admit to this being a retcon, since after-all the author originally only wrote the first novel, so stuff like this battle against the LC was added in later for future books. |
SimmianPrime said: ssjokg said: It was said in season one that Kirito was one of the reasons the guild was destroyed. It isnt retcon to have a trauma for killing real people.In the novel he even stated to have nightmares if he was alone after he killed Kuradeel(although the whole event is a reason as well).I dont remember if it was in the anime but Kuradeel also called him a murderer to mess him up. Now I am asking if you know what a retcon is. Absolute rubbish (unless I'm having a total memory blank) where exactly in S1 was is said that Kirito destroyed the LC guild? It was never even stated (again, if my memory is serving me correctly) that the LC was destroyed at all. That's part of the problem, they were brought up on one or two occasions and then never mentioned again. But suddenly now out of nowhere it turns out that there was some epic traumatic battle against them (that was never mentioned) Even some of the most die hard SAO fans I know fully admit to this being a retcon, since after-all the author originally only wrote the first novel, so stuff like this battle against the LC was added in later for future books. For anyone who has a web novel and/or is writting it down These are the kind of stuff that should make you think twice before some cool retcon since when your WN becomes something that gets sold people will hate to know so late stuff happened and you left them for side stories and subplots since you had no hope on publishing your story and thus you made it live on the internetz and thus you didn´t have the time or experience to work on it and made it more self contained. Just remember this chaviza! Now the daily old Roland uncle informative section ends up See ya next friday! |
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ChaoticSilence said: Goddammit I thought they were gonna kiss. Kirito x Sinon is the best ship There's noway they were gonna kiss, why he'd kiss her AW ? there's no any relationship that bonds them together except that they accidentally killed several people, actually their relationship is still shallow, for the god sake, they met hours ago and now you expect them to kiss ? that means that the relationship between Kirito and Asuna is very shallow. after all the difficulties they went through for them to be together, If he'd cheat on Asuna with a girl that he'd just met then he's a jerk and a psycho. Even If they were to kiss in the end of the episode, I don't think Sinon'd accept that kiss. she'd definitely ask him why he kissed her and he'd end up being slapped on the face like the last time when he revealed his gender to her. Botato said: ChaoticSilence said: Godtsuya says hiNah Alucard could absolutely destroy him Tatsuya oniisama is the strongest ever. |
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Hyack said: Sinon best girl. Just fucking kiss.  |
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| I swear the more I see Sinon the hotter she gets. Must stay faithful to the ultimate waifu and recreator of soy sauce, Asuna <3. |
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zetsubousei_hero said: Kirito is God himself. Dude is the most OP character of all time. Every single strong Anime character would not even stand a chance. Can't see how Kirito is scare of death gun. Do people need Psychology101 to understand SAO,in every thread there are comments like this.He is not scared of Death Gun.He just remembers old things,than traumas and shit happens.... ChaoticSilence said: Because it's Sword Art Online. Even the nurse wants Kirito's D. lol,true words |
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LonelyWizard said: zetsubousei_hero said: Kirito is God himself. Dude is the most OP character of all time. Every single strong Anime character would not even stand a chance. Can't see how Kirito is scare of death gun. Do people need Psychology101 to understand SAO,in every thread there are comments like this.He is not scared of Death Gun.He just remembers old things,than traumas and shit happens.... Stop being yaoi for kirito and admit he's a scared little pussy |
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| @SimmianPrime You may be right about the anime and I won't even bother to check it, but the author didn't retcon anything in the novel.Those "die hard fans" that admit the retcon; Iwonder what they were reading. |
| OMG, Kirito has killed some players in SAO? So Kirito IS a murderer, but he has a good reason. He defended himself from getting murdered. I think Death Gun changes his opinion and will kill Kirito instaead of Shinon. Hm..a new love couple? Kirito x Shinon? |
ssjokg said: @SimmianPrime You may be right about the anime and I won't even bother to check it, but the author didn't retcon anything in the novel.Those "die hard fans" that admit the retcon; Iwonder what they were reading. Wait....in your first couple of responses you attempted to say what I said was wrong without even knowing if what you were saying was correct in the first place? lololol Well considering we're talking about episode 6 of the anime then novel is utterly irrelevant. It's a total retcon in the anime and from what I've heard from people that have read the novels it wasn't in the original novels either. I'll take their word over yours since apparently you say stuff like "It was said in season one that Kirito was one of the reasons the guild was destroyed." without even knowing if it's true or not. gg man. |
skudoops said: Not really though, especially when you look back at how he acted in ALO.Sapewloth said: Regardless of that retcon thingy, what happened in the LN is irrelevant. The thing is we had no idea up until this point that Kirito suffered any form of trauma from killing Kuradeel or anyone else. Cause it was never mentionned nor hinted at. But it is believable, I think that's the main thing here. I do appreciate the author's effort to redeem himself and write a semblance of a compelling character arc for his protagonist, but the fact remains that it's inconsistent with what we've been presented in both SAO and ALO, and thus makes the whole thing pretty hard to buy and more convenient than anything else. |
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skudoops said: For someone supposedly fixated on saving his waifu he sure took his sweet time to get to Yggdrassil.Sapewloth said: Not really though, especially when you look back at how he acted in ALO. I do appreciate the author's effort to redeem himself and write a semblance of a compelling character arc for his protagonist, but the fact remains that it's inconsistent with what we've been presented in both SAO and ALO, and thus makes the whole thing pretty hard to buy and more convenient than anything else. Well in ALO he was fixated on that stupid girl, so it would have been kinda weird for him to catch feels randomly there. Problem is he PK'ed players in fairly traumatizing ways without batting an eyelash and with a big dumb smile on his face, which is pretty much the opposite reaction you'd expect from someone who just got out of the death game he was stuck in for two years and where he had to kill people for real. |
| Proud founder of The Official Anti-Ging Freecss Fan Club Join now! Kellhus said: GuusWayne said: there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat. |
| @SimmianPrime It is really pathetic to accuse me for something you are doing. And the novels aren't irrelevant the moment you mention the author. Now, I could easily prove that it was in the first volume of SAO, and make you and those imaginary fans you created look dumb, but another user already did, but you probably thought that you could avoid it by replying only to me. |
| Wait, so this flashback happened during the real SAO, or after the events of ALO where they said they will finish 100 floors of SAO? Since Kirito mentioned he killed 3 guys, means it is on the SAO death game... but the guy survived so its on the second part probably. |
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