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Oct 4, 2014 9:30 AM
#51
tsubasalover said: -RIPriest- said: Why would they make a different entry for Episode 0? It's still part of the tv series. Episode 0s of TV series should be separated. i.e. http://myanimelist.net/anime.php?q=episode%200 Whose are mostly OVAs released after the main series aired. This on the other hand is part of the main TV series. |
Oct 4, 2014 9:30 AM
#52
Was so hyped, didn't fall asleep until I was completely exhausted, thus I slept through the initial TV broadcast DX ufotable is just too based, anime of the year is looking amazing so far. |
Oct 4, 2014 9:31 AM
#53
mirakura said: InsertPriestHere said: CookingPriest said: If they dolphin them instead of implying them, I will. Didn't Realta Nua have dolphins or fish or something, though? So technically they'd still be adapting it right. I love the contrasts: Rin is dolphins, Saber is dragons, Sakura is worms~ Ohoho, some kind of subconscious message? Though Sakura actually drinks Shirous blood for mana transfer. |
Oct 4, 2014 9:31 AM
#54
InsertPriestHere said: CookingPriest said: If they dolphin them instead of implying them, I will. Didn't Realta Nua have dolphins or fish or something, though? So technically they'd still be adapting it right. YEs, but Zero already ignored Sakura-adjustment from RN, after all |
Oct 4, 2014 9:32 AM
#55
LastChapter said: Was so hyped, didn't fall asleep until I was completely exhausted, thus I slept through the initial TV broadcast DX ufotable is just too based, anime of the year is looking amazing so far. Indeed!Apparently the 720version is streaming some where DX |
The sun is a deadly laser |
Oct 4, 2014 9:32 AM
#56
InsertPriestHere said: But that would be comedy as bad as Nasu's writing in those specific scenes, so it will always suck unless they imply them.CookingPriest said: If they dolphin them instead of implying them, I will. Didn't Realta Nua have dolphins or fish or something, though? So technically they'd still be adapting it right. |
Oct 4, 2014 9:35 AM
#58
mirakura said: Nico is streaming it currently at this exact moment, and if you're a premium member, you can watch it in 720p. Otherwise, just torrent the TV broadcast version.LastChapter said: Was so hyped, didn't fall asleep until I was completely exhausted, thus I slept through the initial TV broadcast DX ufotable is just too based, anime of the year is looking amazing so far. Indeed!Apparently the 720version is streaming some where DX |
Oct 4, 2014 9:36 AM
#59
tsubasalover said: This is aired at regular TV time, but as Episode 0 http://myanimelist.net/anime/10152/Kimi_ni_Todoke_2nd_Season:_Kataomoi http://myanimelist.net/anime/9723/Hakuouki_Hekketsuroku_Episode_0 But they are specials |
Oct 4, 2014 9:37 AM
#60
Should add a POST ANY FATE/ZERO EVENTS IN SPOILER TAGS in the OP. Good episode, as far as I can see it decent and faithful adaptation and great animation. Will wait for subs now though. Oh, and seeing Himuro, Yukika and Makidera was fun. |
CapsuleCoreOct 4, 2014 9:42 AM
Oct 4, 2014 9:38 AM
#61
Also the big problem that will arise - censorship. Considering what is happening with Terraformars(which airs in same channel), I fear for certain gory scenes latter on to be pretty much black screen |
Oct 4, 2014 9:38 AM
#62
mirakura said: CrankyPriest said: Moving from episode discussion to who did best in her H-scenes are we? What type of eng is that? A type you use when talking about H-scenes. |
"There’s a wall between the normal and the abnormal—that way of thinking was wrong from the beginning. Of course, you have to differentiate between the normal and the abnormal, and you won’t be able to live if you don’t, but this and that are like bordering countries—over here and over there are connected." ~Senjougahara Hitagi~ |
Oct 4, 2014 9:39 AM
#63
honestly im not gonna add this entry to my list i dont want a million entries for the same show |
Oct 4, 2014 9:39 AM
#64
tsubasalover said: This is aired at regular TV time, but as Episode 0 http://myanimelist.net/anime/10152/Kimi_ni_Todoke_2nd_Season:_Kataomoi http://myanimelist.net/anime/9723/Hakuouki_Hekketsuroku_Episode_0 Still specials. This is part of the regular show, only called 0 because it's the prologue. |
Oct 4, 2014 9:41 AM
#65
CookingPriest said: Also the big problem that will arise - censorship. Considering what is happening with Terraformars(which airs in same channel), I fear for certain gory scenes latter on to be pretty much black screen Probably not gonna happen. UBW airs 12 AM midnight on saturdays in japan, technically 00:00 Sunday. It's considered adult time on tv, so if censorship did exist, it would be for some very gory scenes. |
"There’s a wall between the normal and the abnormal—that way of thinking was wrong from the beginning. Of course, you have to differentiate between the normal and the abnormal, and you won’t be able to live if you don’t, but this and that are like bordering countries—over here and over there are connected." ~Senjougahara Hitagi~ |
Oct 4, 2014 9:42 AM
#66
CookingPriest said: Also the big problem that will arise - censorship. Considering what is happening with Terraformars(which airs in same channel), I fear for certain gory scenes latter on to be pretty much black screen There will certainly be censorship, but it will be removed in the DVD and BD releases. |
Oct 4, 2014 9:42 AM
#67
CookingPriest said: You meanAlso the big problem that will arise - censorship. Considering what is happening with Terraformars(which airs in same channel), I fear for certain gory scenes latter on to be pretty much black screen This scene right? |
Oct 4, 2014 9:42 AM
#68
InsertPriestHere said: tsubasalover said: This is aired at regular TV time, but as Episode 0 http://myanimelist.net/anime/10152/Kimi_ni_Todoke_2nd_Season:_Kataomoi http://myanimelist.net/anime/9723/Hakuouki_Hekketsuroku_Episode_0 Still specials. This is part of the regular show, only called 0 because it's the prologue. They are prologue/episode 0 of the regular shows, too, and aired on TV, just listed as Special. This will be listed as Special, too (if approved), because I submitted it with wrong type. |
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Oct 4, 2014 9:43 AM
#69
CookingPriest said: Uhh.. In that case we'll just watch it with no censorship when BDs are released.Also the big problem that will arise - censorship. Considering what is happening with Terraformars(which airs in same channel), I fear for certain gory scenes latter on to be pretty much black screen |
Oct 4, 2014 9:45 AM
#70
LastChapter said: CookingPriest said: You meanAlso the big problem that will arise - censorship. Considering what is happening with Terraformars(which airs in same channel), I fear for certain gory scenes latter on to be pretty much black screen This scene right? Hmm they could use another angle to avoid censorship. And did F/0 have censorship when it aired? i've only seen the BD version so idk. |
"There’s a wall between the normal and the abnormal—that way of thinking was wrong from the beginning. Of course, you have to differentiate between the normal and the abnormal, and you won’t be able to live if you don’t, but this and that are like bordering countries—over here and over there are connected." ~Senjougahara Hitagi~ |
Oct 4, 2014 9:47 AM
#71
tsubasalover said: InsertPriestHere said: tsubasalover said: This is aired at regular TV time, but as Episode 0 http://myanimelist.net/anime/10152/Kimi_ni_Todoke_2nd_Season:_Kataomoi http://myanimelist.net/anime/9723/Hakuouki_Hekketsuroku_Episode_0 Still specials. This is part of the regular show, only called 0 because it's the prologue. They are prologue/episode 0 of the regular shows, too, and aired on TV, just listed as Special. This will be listed as Special, too (if approved), because I submitted it with wrong type. Those aired after the main series aired. Hence why they are Special. F/SN episode 0 is part of the main story. Only called Ep 0 because it's the prologue of the VN and ufotable was too faithful to the adaptation. |
Oct 4, 2014 9:47 AM
#72
CrankyPriest said: LastChapter said: CookingPriest said: Also the big problem that will arise - censorship. Considering what is happening with Terraformars(which airs in same channel), I fear for certain gory scenes latter on to be pretty much black screen This scene right? Hmm they could use another angle to avoid censorship. And did F/0 have censorship when it aired? i've only seen the BD version so idk. Yeah, in the scene with that kid exploding with Casters tentacle thing, and those dead kids in his little underground workshop which Waver and Rider wandered into. And the rape worms looked less like penises, iirc. |
Oct 4, 2014 9:48 AM
#73
It's in the guidelines: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=515957 Specials include: DVD/Blu-ray specials and introductory animation (pilots, prologues, episodes 00) which contain animation/voice acting not used in the parent show. |
Oct 4, 2014 9:50 AM
#74
-RIPriest- said: tsubasalover said: InsertPriestHere said: tsubasalover said: This is aired at regular TV time, but as Episode 0 http://myanimelist.net/anime/10152/Kimi_ni_Todoke_2nd_Season:_Kataomoi http://myanimelist.net/anime/9723/Hakuouki_Hekketsuroku_Episode_0 Still specials. This is part of the regular show, only called 0 because it's the prologue. They are prologue/episode 0 of the regular shows, too, and aired on TV, just listed as Special. This will be listed as Special, too (if approved), because I submitted it with wrong type. Those aired after the main series aired. Hence why they are Special. F/SN episode 0 is part of the main story. Only called Ep 0 because it's the prologue of the VN and ufotable was too faithful to the adaptation. BEFORE, not AFTER. Ep.0 of those two anime were aired on the first week, and before ep1. (I watched both series, so I know). They are basically the same case as this. |
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Oct 4, 2014 9:51 AM
#75
LastChapter said: CookingPriest said: You meanAlso the big problem that will arise - censorship. Considering what is happening with Terraformars(which airs in same channel), I fear for certain gory scenes latter on to be pretty much black screen This scene right? Not just that. There's also the case of Rider. An dog's last moments. |
Oct 4, 2014 9:51 AM
#76
InsertPriestHere said: CrankyPriest said: LastChapter said: CookingPriest said: You meanAlso the big problem that will arise - censorship. Considering what is happening with Terraformars(which airs in same channel), I fear for certain gory scenes latter on to be pretty much black screen This scene right? Hmm they could use another angle to avoid censorship. And did F/0 have censorship when it aired? i've only seen the BD version so idk. Yeah, in the scene with that kid exploding with Casters tentacle thing, and those dead kids in his little underground workshop which Waver and Rider wandered into. And the rape worms looked less like penises, iirc. I see. So just because it was kids being butchered. I can't see the reason to make the worms look less like a penis. :l |
"There’s a wall between the normal and the abnormal—that way of thinking was wrong from the beginning. Of course, you have to differentiate between the normal and the abnormal, and you won’t be able to live if you don’t, but this and that are like bordering countries—over here and over there are connected." ~Senjougahara Hitagi~ |
Oct 4, 2014 9:53 AM
#77
belatkuro said: It's in the guidelines: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=515957 Specials include: DVD/Blu-ray specials and introductory animation (pilots, prologues, episodes 00) which contain animation/voice acting not used in the parent show. This it's enough to me |
Oct 4, 2014 9:54 AM
#78
CrankyPriest said: I can't see the reason to make the worms look less like a penis. :l Because they are sticking with canon lore and not the alternatives lore. WHich is why I will be pissed if they dolphin Rin. |
Oct 4, 2014 9:55 AM
#79
Lol, Nasu just made a Lancer is Deermud joke: https://twitter.com/Fate_SN_Anime/status/518440085201489920 |
Oct 4, 2014 9:56 AM
#80
JunePriest said: What a noob mistake he made, especially when he's the creator of Fate/ universe...Lol, Nasu just made a Lancer is Deermud |
BotatoOct 4, 2014 9:59 AM
Oct 4, 2014 9:56 AM
#81
CrankyPriest said: InsertPriestHere said: CrankyPriest said: LastChapter said: CookingPriest said: You meanAlso the big problem that will arise - censorship. Considering what is happening with Terraformars(which airs in same channel), I fear for certain gory scenes latter on to be pretty much black screen This scene right? Hmm they could use another angle to avoid censorship. And did F/0 have censorship when it aired? i've only seen the BD version so idk. Yeah, in the scene with that kid exploding with Casters tentacle thing, and those dead kids in his little underground workshop which Waver and Rider wandered into. And the rape worms looked less like penises, iirc. I see. So just because it was kids being butchered. I can't see the reason to make the worms look less like a penis. :l That's what I recall, though there may have been other things. I believe there was more blood and gore in the BD, too, maybe. And kids being butchered isn't exactly something they can show on tv anyhow. Uuuh. Because penis shaped worms. Violating a little girl. |
Oct 4, 2014 9:58 AM
#82
JunePriest said: Lol, Nasu just made a Lancer is Deermud Gotta love a person who knows his fanbase. would it be not lol if he specifically decided to change the color of circuits after going to beast's lair?~ This makes me hope for no dolphins(and that the scene this ep was just a jab at deen-fsn bullshit) |
Oct 4, 2014 9:59 AM
#83
InsertPriestHere said: So hardly necessary to see, in other words.CrankyPriest said: LastChapter said: CookingPriest said: You meanAlso the big problem that will arise - censorship. Considering what is happening with Terraformars(which airs in same channel), I fear for certain gory scenes latter on to be pretty much black screen This scene right? Hmm they could use another angle to avoid censorship. And did F/0 have censorship when it aired? i've only seen the BD version so idk. Yeah, in the scene with that kid exploding with Casters tentacle thing, and those dead kids in his little underground workshop which Waver and Rider wandered into. And the rape worms looked less like penises, iirc. |
Proud founder of The Official Anti-Ging Freecss Fan Club Join now! Kellhus said: GuusWayne said: there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat. |
Oct 4, 2014 9:59 AM
#84
tsubasalover said: -RIPriest- said: tsubasalover said: InsertPriestHere said: tsubasalover said: This is aired at regular TV time, but as Episode 0 http://myanimelist.net/anime/10152/Kimi_ni_Todoke_2nd_Season:_Kataomoi http://myanimelist.net/anime/9723/Hakuouki_Hekketsuroku_Episode_0 Still specials. This is part of the regular show, only called 0 because it's the prologue. They are prologue/episode 0 of the regular shows, too, and aired on TV, just listed as Special. This will be listed as Special, too (if approved), because I submitted it with wrong type. Those aired after the main series aired. Hence why they are Special. F/SN episode 0 is part of the main story. Only called Ep 0 because it's the prologue of the VN and ufotable was too faithful to the adaptation. BEFORE, not AFTER. Ep.0 of those two anime were aired on the first week, and before ep1. (I watched both series, so I know). They are basically the same case as this. Kimi ni Todoke ep 0 aired on Jan 5, 2011 Kimi ni Todoke full story aired from Oct 7, 2009 to Mar 31, 2010 Hakuouki Hekketsuroku Episode 0 Aired: Oct 3, 2010 Hakuouki Aired: Apr 4, 2010 to Jun 20, 2010 Nope it doesn't look like those episode 0 aired before their parent story. |
Oct 4, 2014 10:01 AM
#85
GangstaPriest said: InsertPriestHere said: So hardly necessary to see, in other words.CrankyPriest said: LastChapter said: CookingPriest said: You meanAlso the big problem that will arise - censorship. Considering what is happening with Terraformars(which airs in same channel), I fear for certain gory scenes latter on to be pretty much black screen This scene right? Hmm they could use another angle to avoid censorship. And did F/0 have censorship when it aired? i've only seen the BD version so idk. Yeah, in the scene with that kid exploding with Casters tentacle thing, and those dead kids in his little underground workshop which Waver and Rider wandered into. And the rape worms looked less like penises, iirc. That's arguable, those moments are meant to be horrific and show what kind of people Zouken/Caster&Ryuunosuke are |
Oct 4, 2014 10:02 AM
#86
GangstaPriest said: Hey hey, there was InsertPriestHere said: So hardly necessary to see, in other words.CrankyPriest said: LastChapter said: CookingPriest said: You meanAlso the big problem that will arise - censorship. Considering what is happening with Terraformars(which airs in same channel), I fear for certain gory scenes latter on to be pretty much black screen This scene right? Hmm they could use another angle to avoid censorship. And did F/0 have censorship when it aired? i've only seen the BD version so idk. Yeah, in the scene with that kid exploding with Casters tentacle thing, and those dead kids in his little underground workshop which Waver and Rider wandered into. And the rape worms looked less like penises, iirc. the scene at the end with Kiritsugu and Iri-copy inside the grail, in BDs it showed that Iri-copy made Kiritsugu's hand bleed when she was resisiting getting strangled. |
Oct 4, 2014 10:05 AM
#87
InsertPriestHere said: Not really, considering suggestion can be just as horrifying as full blown gore (and usually works better when used correctly, which totally was the case in /0).GangstaPriest said: InsertPriestHere said: CrankyPriest said: LastChapter said: CookingPriest said: You meanAlso the big problem that will arise - censorship. Considering what is happening with Terraformars(which airs in same channel), I fear for certain gory scenes latter on to be pretty much black screen This scene right? Hmm they could use another angle to avoid censorship. And did F/0 have censorship when it aired? i've only seen the BD version so idk. Yeah, in the scene with that kid exploding with Casters tentacle thing, and those dead kids in his little underground workshop which Waver and Rider wandered into. And the rape worms looked less like penises, iirc. That's arguable, those moments are meant to be horrific and show what kind of people Zouken/Caster&Ryuunosuke are Just look at Alien, for eg. What's trully terrifying is the suffocating atmosphere, the sense of total lack of safety aboard the Nostromo, not so much how butchered the victims of 8th passenger-kun are. (sorry, Alienfag here) |
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Oct 4, 2014 10:07 AM
#88
-RIPriest- said: Kimi ni Todoke ep 0 aired on Jan 5, 2011 Kimi ni Todoke full story aired from Oct 7, 2009 to Mar 31, 2010 Hakuouki Hekketsuroku Episode 0 Aired: Oct 3, 2010 Hakuouki Aired: Apr 4, 2010 to Jun 20, 2010 Nope it doesn't look like those episode 0 aired before their parent story. http://myanimelist.net/anime/10152/Kimi_ni_Todoke_2nd_Season:_Kataomoi Aired: Jan 5, 2011 http://myanimelist.net/anime/9656/Kimi_ni_Todoke_2nd_Season Aired: Jan 12, 2011 http://myanimelist.net/anime/9723/Hakuouki_Hekketsuroku_Episode_0 Aired: Oct 3, 2010 http://myanimelist.net/anime/9065/Hakuouki_Hekketsuroku Aired: Oct 4, 2010 It's even on the title of Kataomoi that it's for the 2nd season. It's also in the synopsis of Hakuoki Hekketsuroku episode 0 that it aired before the second season. |
Oct 4, 2014 10:08 AM
#89
GangstaPriest said: Just look at Alien, for eg. What's trully terrifying is the suffocating atmosphere, the sense of total lack of safety aboard the Nostromo, not so much how butchered the victims of 8th passenger-kun are. (sorry, Alienfag here) ANd as I said in terraformars thread Imagine if suddenly screen fades out to black, or well, Kittens. Atmosphere gone. |
Oct 4, 2014 10:09 AM
#90
Great first episode can't wait to re-watch it with subs later on. The animation quality for the fight scenes was about what I expected from Ufo. My only minor complaint is the fact that they omitted some of the info dumps. It was nice to see the blonde foreigner make a cameo. |
Oct 4, 2014 10:10 AM
#91
belatkuro said: -RIPriest- said: Kimi ni Todoke ep 0 aired on Jan 5, 2011 Kimi ni Todoke full story aired from Oct 7, 2009 to Mar 31, 2010 Hakuouki Hekketsuroku Episode 0 Aired: Oct 3, 2010 Hakuouki Aired: Apr 4, 2010 to Jun 20, 2010 Nope it doesn't look like those episode 0 aired before their parent story. http://myanimelist.net/anime/10152/Kimi_ni_Todoke_2nd_Season:_Kataomoi Aired: Jan 5, 2011 http://myanimelist.net/anime/9656/Kimi_ni_Todoke_2nd_Season Aired: Jan 12, 2011 http://myanimelist.net/anime/9723/Hakuouki_Hekketsuroku_Episode_0 Aired: Oct 3, 2010 http://myanimelist.net/anime/9065/Hakuouki_Hekketsuroku Aired: Oct 4, 2010 It's even on the title of Kataomoi that it's for the 2nd season. It's also in the synopsis of Hakuoki Hekketsuroku episode 0 that it aired before the second season. And this one isn't for the second season. |
Oct 4, 2014 10:11 AM
#92
GarPriest said: Great first episode can't wait to re-watch it with subs later on. The animation quality for the fight scenes was about what I expected from Ufo. My only minor complaint is the fact that they omitted some of the info dumps. It was nice to see the blonde foreigner make a cameo. I am mostly okay with that. Most of them are repeated anyway so hopefully they won't skip them then. Shirou talks about Familiars and Tohsaka talks to Shirou about about sorcery and magic when explaining projection |
Oct 4, 2014 10:16 AM
#93
CookingPriest said: GarPriest said: Great first episode can't wait to re-watch it with subs later on. The animation quality for the fight scenes was about what I expected from Ufo. My only minor complaint is the fact that they omitted some of the info dumps. It was nice to see the blonde foreigner make a cameo. I am mostly okay with that. Most of them are repeated anyway so hopefully they won't skip them then. Shirou talks about Familiars and Tohsaka talks to Shirou about about sorcery and magic when explaining projection And they fit better there as well. |
Oct 4, 2014 10:20 AM
#94
Rin's characters looks funny. As well as the side faces :3 |
The sun is a deadly laser |
Oct 4, 2014 10:22 AM
#95
CookingPriest said: CrankyPriest said: I can't see the reason to make the worms look less like a penis. :l Because they are sticking with canon lore and not the alternatives lore. WHich is why I will be pissed if they dolphin Rin. I see. Let's hope they don't. |
"There’s a wall between the normal and the abnormal—that way of thinking was wrong from the beginning. Of course, you have to differentiate between the normal and the abnormal, and you won’t be able to live if you don’t, but this and that are like bordering countries—over here and over there are connected." ~Senjougahara Hitagi~ |
Oct 4, 2014 10:23 AM
#96
mirakura said: Because of her nose?Rin's characters looks funny. As well as the side faces :3 It does look kinda weird tbh but hey, who cares. It's just a nose :^) |
Oct 4, 2014 10:24 AM
#97
Surprisingly good first episode. Animation quality is top-notch (refreshing you-know-what-site for the raw mkv to rewatch it in 1080p on the AMOLED tablet), but that was expected. It is very-very close to the original to the point that sometimes you feel that it is not an adaptation, but an animated version of the novel. They even managed to cut some scenes (mostly the ones explaining how the magic works) in such a way, that I felt no loss at all, despite me being very picky for such things. In other words, Maaaberasu! Burawo! Oh Burawo! |
Oct 4, 2014 10:24 AM
#98
BotatoPriest said: mirakura said: Because of her nose?Rin's characters looks funny. As well as the side faces :3 It does look kinda weird tbh but hey, who cares. It's just a nose :^) So that's why 'Rin's Nose' was in the bingo thing XDD |
The sun is a deadly laser |
Oct 4, 2014 10:25 AM
#99
Kaioshin_Sama said: JunePriest said: Woah budd chill a bit, no need to get so hot n' flustered, especially when ya haven't seen the episode yet :p I'm prepared to receive the bounty and the second coming all in one. When I watch this perfection I can finally ascend to heaven in pure bliss cause I know it's just going to be that perfect. All I see here is you picking a fight with the fanbase without even watching the episode yet just because the show is hyped which for some reason ticks you off, but it's hyped for obvious reasons: Based on the most popular VN ever made, it's also by Type Moon which has a great following, and is made by ufotable which makes great Type Moon adaptations. You're just being overly dramatic for no reason. |
Oct 4, 2014 10:26 AM
#100
CookingPriest said: Well in the case Terra Formars, considering gore is pretty much its selling point it seems to heavily on gore, censoring the shit out of its TV adaptation would be more akin to taking out the rape from Akame ga Kill than say, not showing butchered kids in Fate/Zero.GangstaPriest said: Just look at Alien, for eg. What's trully terrifying is the suffocating atmosphere, the sense of total lack of safety aboard the Nostromo, not so much how butchered the victims of 8th passenger-kun are. (sorry, Alienfag here) ANd as I said in terraformars thread Imagine if suddenly screen fades out to black, or well, Kittens. Atmosphere gone. |
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