Shiki Episode 21 Discussion

Sakarii said:

Which make them animals, LOL. You'll get it one day.

TomDay said:
humans are animals. got it. might as well stop calling them humans from now on. they belong to the entire animal kingdom now. what was i thinking?!? you're totally right. i was such an idiot.

ariapokoteng said:

The thing is that vampires and people can coexist only if the latters hunt the formers.
You let shikis be - they multiply. Just like rats. Or locusts. More shikis - more blood required - even more shikis as the result. If no one hunts them - human race would just extinct in no time.
If Sunako & Co would have wanted just to live happily, they should have been keeping the shiki population on the very low levels. Say, just only Kirishikis themselves. No laying hands on the villagers. They attack people from the city - so they have enough food to survive. that way no one would give a damn about Kanemasa and they could live there as long as they please.
Yet Sunako decided to turn the whole village into shikis. They got what they deserved.

Rosny said:
How am I supposed to feel sorry for them? Do humans turn into piranhas and go into an uncontrollable frenzy when eating? Do humans lose control and kill the hen when they need an egg or a cow when they need milk?

Enough of this pretentious philosophical babble, for all its bullshit, you remove the shiki's human-like appearance with say, an insect-like appearance and I'm sure most people would not be as sympathetic.

And like another person commented, I feel ashamed to not have thought about it, if they were so angst ridden about their need to kill to survive, why don't they keep the shiki numbers low? Hmmm? Okay, maybe killing other shiki when they rise up is not better, so then, I suggest having a spotter that stops the blood sucking when it becomes life threatening to the human and that also means no more shiki rising as well. Go pester some annoying eco-warrior communes, I am sure they are more than happy to provide blood. The vampires are going after children and elderly people as well, knowing they may not survive, why do we have to draw up a new code of morals when it pertains to vampires?

Then there's the issue in which the community is ruled like a vicious syndicate. People did not choose to become vampires, and when they decide to not drink blood they are threatened to be dragged out into the sun, at least this is what the anime describes. These guys are not even allowed to exile themselves and find other like-minded communities that want to minimise human deaths and create a more sustainable future coexisting with humans. They are forced to be a foot soldier in creating a shiki only village. They are blackmailed with their families lives if they do not do as commanded. They are forced to go after their families or best friends, they are given false promises of protecting their human families, when in the end, the final plan is to have no humans alive. So they are even lying and manipulating their own kind using terror and human shields.

If you keep your numbers low, you keep your population easily sustainable, no threat to your community, no threat to mankind, no humans drained to the point of death. The more 'werewolf' kind, the better.

Seriously, if you think about it beyond what narrative we're fed, to feel sorry for the vamps and balance the sides of morality, you cannot help but condemn the shiki, they are a failed race who do not even seriously plan their society to survive long term. Got too greedy and got burnt in the end.

Okay another point, this is an invasion! Are we supposed to support the invaders? Oh oops, those silly Nazis and imperial Japanese, they just need living space and resources. That all justifies civilian genocide, human experimentation, bio warfare, organised rape etc. They are just surviving!