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| the cliffhangers really make this a more interesting season and then having to wait for the next episode. Doubtful that Sinon will die since she is in Kiritos harem and he doesn't let them leave once they join. I have an idea who death is...cant wait to watch more and see if i'm right. |
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| Kirito will always be a showoff in front of a woman lol His avatar is a woman and still showing off lol But overall great episode |
Ah, much better than SAO! [ I'm not even going to talk about ALO anymore. That's trash. ] I'm actually looking forward to each episode. I think a part of me is still screaming "remember SAO? Remember what an atrocity it was? How can you like GGO?", but I really think GGO is a huge improvement from both the first season and from what I expected it to be- a Star Wars-ripoff with overpowered players and unnecessary fanservice. Well, I guess it is, in a way, but it isn't bothering me so much. The whole Jedi and lightsaber thing is a little bit annoying, because I'm sure they could have thought up some other weapon that would have fit into the idea of GGO and looked like a sword. Some kind anons who read the novels explained to me that after you play lots of games, then you gain more agility, explaining Kirito's superhuman power, since he played both SAO and ALO. A little ridiculous of an advantage, but at least I'm not tearing my hair out whenever he blocks all those bullets. As for the fanservice, surprisingly less than I expected, though Sinon might need some more clothes and I'm just waiting for that shower scene that'll completely destroy my opinions of this anime. Well, of course, that shower scene could never appear and things could be okay. So, on to a discussion of this episode, as the forum topic states. Like SAO, GGO is now a life-or-death game. People can actually die now; there are lives at stake and I think that's why Kirito is so desperate to make things right here. It's like a terrible reminder of the past and he clearly doesn't want anyone to have to suffer from playing a game in which the worst consequence was thought to be losing a few items. Initially, I thought that Sinon was empathizing with Death Gun. Though I don't think she shares his emotions, she sees herself in him, when Kirito talks about how somebody who killed people before is now in a game where he has free reign to kill all the people he wants, once again. Asada wants to be powerful, but playing as Sinon, as she has learned, can have unforeseen consequences. Seeing that gun that she used to shoot the robber was a bit of a surprise, and now that she sees Death Gun as the bank robber, she's going to have some remorse about killing him. Even though both Death Gun and the robber threatened to take her life, she hesitated to pull the trigger the first time around and I think that hesitation will be magnified here [ if she can even get to aim a gun at her opponent now ]. Her emotional trauma seems to be paralyzing [ no reference intended ] and I think this will make it difficult for her to work up the resolve to shoot Death Gun and put an end to this. Ah, but wait! Even shooting Death Gun won't stop the killings because her gun can only knock him out of the battle. He can still go around GGO later on and continue killing people; just stopping him in BoB theoretically will not have much of an effect except for temporarily making sure that the other players in the game are safe. They can still be killed by Death Gun later on. Lastly, it's clear that both Sinon and Kirito like to work by themselves. They're used to being solo players; Sinon's style of play in GGO means that she has to be by herself a lot of the time, even if she's on a team, because she has to find locations that will allow for advantageous sniping. They're both stubborn about cooperating and working together has never been a natural tendency for either of them. But teamwork, cheesy as it sounds, has a lot of power. It's high time that both of them acknowledged that. |
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exLightning said: I'm kinda at a stalemate here... I don't want Sinon and her lovely butt to die... but at the same time having her die would be a good plot twist and would raise the quality of the plot, But as everyone knows that's very unlikely to happen. If I could have it my way I would want her to be shot in the leg or arm so she doesn't die (assuming that IRL they get hurt where they are shot) and then FOR HER TO SAVE HERSELF. Not Kirito!! if Kirito saves her then it just shows the plot hasn't developed from the last season and it's still the Kirito ultimate harem show... Please save Sinon and let her keep her dignity. Objection! Zexceed was shot in the TV, and his RL TV was completely unharmed~! |
| The Force is strong in Kirito. The end was insane, can't wait for the next episode. |
| I KNEW IT STERBEN IS DEATH GUN DURR MORE PEOPLE SHOULD LEARN GERMAN ALSO THAT CLIFFHANGER IS EVIL WHY AM I IN ALL CAPS I NEED TO GO CALM DOWN SOMEWHERE |
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| Lightsaber skills over 9000. That was golden. Poor guy though, Sinon's shot severed him in half and had his legs flying off into the sunset. The "gameception" part was weird though. Watching a game from within a game lol whut? |
swaggahsaurus said: Ah, much better than SAO! [ I'm not even going to talk about ALO anymore. That's trash. ] I'm actually looking forward to each episode. I think a part of me is still screaming "remember SAO? Remember what an atrocity it was? How can you like GGO?", but I really think GGO is a huge improvement from both the first season and from what I expected it to be- a Star Wars-ripoff with overpowered players and unnecessary fanservice. Well, I guess it is, in a way, but it isn't bothering me so much. The whole Jedi and lightsaber thing is a little bit annoying, because I'm sure they could have thought up some other weapon that would have fit into the idea of GGO and looked like a sword. Some kind anons who read the novels explained to me that after you play lots of games, then you gain more agility, explaining Kirito's superhuman power, since he played both SAO and ALO. A little ridiculous of an advantage, but at least I'm not tearing my hair out whenever he blocks all those bullets. As for the fanservice, surprisingly less than I expected, though Sinon might need some more clothes and I'm just waiting for that shower scene that'll completely destroy my opinions of this anime. Well, of course, that shower scene could never appear and things could be okay. So, on to a discussion of this episode, as the forum topic states. Like SAO, GGO is now a life-or-death game. People can actually die now; there are lives at stake and I think that's why Kirito is so desperate to make things right here. It's like a terrible reminder of the past and he clearly doesn't want anyone to have to suffer from playing a game in which the worst consequence was thought to be losing a few items. Initially, I thought that Sinon was empathizing with Death Gun. Though I don't think she shares his emotions, she sees herself in him, when Kirito talks about how somebody who killed people before is now in a game where he has free reign to kill all the people he wants, once again. Asada wants to be powerful, but playing as Sinon, as she has learned, can have unforeseen consequences. Seeing that gun that she used to shoot the robber was a bit of a surprise, and now that she sees Death Gun as the bank robber, she's going to have some remorse about killing him. Even though both Death Gun and the robber threatened to take her life, she hesitated to pull the trigger the first time around and I think that hesitation will be magnified here [ if she can even get to aim a gun at her opponent now ]. Her emotional trauma seems to be paralyzing [ no reference intended ] and I think this will make it difficult for her to work up the resolve to shoot Death Gun and put an end to this. Ah, but wait! Even shooting Death Gun won't stop the killings because her gun can only knock him out of the battle. He can still go around GGO later on and continue killing people; just stopping him in BoB theoretically will not have much of an effect except for temporarily making sure that the other players in the game are safe. They can still be killed by Death Gun later on. Lastly, it's clear that both Sinon and Kirito like to work by themselves. They're used to being solo players; Sinon's style of play in GGO means that she has to be by herself a lot of the time, even if she's on a team, because she has to find locations that will allow for advantageous sniping. They're both stubborn about cooperating and working together has never been a natural tendency for either of them. But teamwork, cheesy as it sounds, has a lot of power. It's high time that both of them acknowledged that. I can`t wait for you to be dissapointed if they addapt caliber or Mother`s Rosario.... It gives me the impression you won`t like it xD |
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| Anyone remember where Kirito said he can't just go in and expect to match the pros? (probably would've been more appropriate to bring up in an older thread but no matter...) Klein and Asuna coming to the conclusion they did about DESU GAN was pretty random, I felt, and cliffhanger really ain't much of a cliffhanger (I'd be real shocked if Sinon was actually killed off here). |
| No, there's no way Sinon dies. Another amusing episode ^ - ^ |
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| Ok.............................................. This guy makes a public declaration that is broadcasted everywhere about how he's death gun and he kills that shotgun acrobatics guy on camera... yet the game devs/authorities can't track him down or just ban his account? Just pure fucking retardation going on in this show. |
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Kyoulaid said: Anyone remember where Kirito said he can't just go in and expect to match the pros? (probably would've been more appropriate to bring up in an older thread but no matter...) Except he is not "matching the pros". He is double-teaming them right now. |
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DerpHole said: Ok.............................................. This guy makes a public declaration that is broadcasted everywhere about how he's death gun and he kills that shotgun acrobatics guy on camera... yet the game devs/authorities can't track him down or just ban his account? Just pure fucking retardation going on in this show. There are several reasons why your statement is invalid. First, lets go from beginning. You have a rumor about a guy who can kill people from inside the game. Till that day, they had only 2 victims who died from heart attack, which was not that uncommon, stated at the very beginning. So, they decided to check that rumor. That was basically only one way taken for investigations progress. He showed up in a bar, shot a gun on a TV at a player who disconnected, which made him only a rumor. That is why Kirito went to check it out on behalf of that special agent. After the BoB tournament started, Kirito wanted to see if there was anyone named Death Gun enlisted, and there was not. Now, I am not sure about you, but I play MMORPG's a little bit. There, once you have chosen your character name, you can't rename it later on just because, which leads me that if there was no one enlisted under the name of Death Gun, then his character name is different. I seriously doubt that this guy would be as stupid to give real name of his character to everyone so they can track him whenever they wanted. Next, we have BoB tournament, to which your point refers to. Ok, we had him shot at a guy who after that immediately disconnected, after which his public announcement was given. First, the company which made this game is in America, not Japan. Their first interest would be of course to protect themselves. So, there is no way that they would give character account e-mails or even IP addresses, if things work on that concept in SAO world, because they are private, and company doesn't want to lose credibility. So, to get that information Japan PD would have to get a warrant, which would have to go through American embassy, to be checked by company's advocate and only then would they get a name of a person who controls that character. I seriously believe that in 9 PM they could get all that done, considering that police is practically is chasing a ghost. So, there is no way for them to check out if that person is still alive or not. Now, why don't they track Death Gun instead? Well, lets say that they knew his character's name.. So, again, they would have to check his IP address by the same method as they would have to do it for Pale Rider, which again is impossible. Therefore, your previous statement is invalid. EDIT: Now, here is one more reason why they can't just arrest him. Avatar is controlled by mind via AmySphere, right? That is a second generation of NerveGear. After NerveGear incident, not only was company which produced it in danger, but that technology as a whole. Now, lets say you have another incident with same consequences that Nerve Gear had. What do you think would happen to that revolutionary technology? Screw company, it would be doomed from returning money to all people who bought it. But what about technology itself? After second incident, people would just be to scared of it. So, they would gang up on anyone who tries to produce it, and in reverse, no company would produce it considering how no one would buy it. It might have military application, but technology itself would be pretty much damaged for several decades. So, that alone would be enough for a government to keep pressure on police to suppress all information about that incident. In return, they just can't make a raid on a guy in the middle of live broadcasting tournament. That is why Kirito is there, to stop that guy. Now, that is a bit of bullshit itself, considering how Kirito brought a knife into a gun fight and is winning just because he is badass (yeah right), but still, Kirito is there to get to Death Gun before he gets to anyone else. |
Dimitrije1606Sep 2, 2014 5:38 AM
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| the game doesn't see the direct connection between death gun shooting and victims's disconnection. Because they are not related other than that it happens at the same time |
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| Im confused. So Sinon is kirito's sister, but isn't that blonde elf girl in the green outfit who was watching the tournament also his sister? Did I miss something or is she in two places at once? Someone help me out here please :P |
Ardanaz said: You missed that Sinon is not Kirito's sister. They havn't even met each other irl.Im confused. So Sinon is kirito's sister, but isn't that blonde elf girl in the green outfit who was watching the tournament also his sister? Did I miss something or is she in two places at once? Someone help me out here please :P |
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Ardanaz said: Im confused. So Sinon is kirito's sister, but isn't that blonde elf girl in the green outfit who was watching the tournament also his sister? Did I miss something or is she in two places at once? Someone help me out here please :P Wait wut? How the hell did you get to a conclusion that Asada Shino is hs sister? Incest is in ALO, not in GGO. So yeah, you missed something or you added something. Shino/Sinon is not Kirito's sister. She is just some random girl he met in game. |
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Dimitrije1606 said: Ardanaz said: Im confused. So Sinon is kirito's sister, but isn't that blonde elf girl in the green outfit who was watching the tournament also his sister? Did I miss something or is she in two places at once? Someone help me out here please :P Wait wut? How the hell did you get to a conclusion that Asada Shino is hs sister? Incest is in ALO, not in GGO. So yeah, you missed something or you added something. Shino/Sinon is not Kirito's sister. She is just some random girl he met in game. Ah thx mate. |
Ardanaz said: Dimitrije1606 said: Wait wut? How the hell did you get to a conclusion that Asada Shino is hs sister? Incest is in ALO, not in GGO. So yeah, you missed something or you added something. Shino/Sinon is not Kirito's sister. She is just some random girl he met in game. Ah thx mate. No problem, you asked, we answered :D |
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| Talk about Cliffhanger I wanna read the book so badly now... But I think I have an idea of who Death Gun is though. |
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| Sinon :[ |
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| I get a feeling that second part of this will contain Alicization <3 |
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| sinon becomes more and more tsundere, love it though <3 asuna and that red-headed know something, "it's show time" and i can't wait for another episode |
| a dual-sword wielder, fire element in right arm and ice element in left arm |
Ashi-nyan said: I get a feeling that second part of this will contain Alicization <3 Nope. Still MR and Caliber to go through before that. |
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| Oh. Shino and Death Gun huh? o-o Other than that, it looks like Death Gun killed yet another person....that....Pale dude. o-o And now his next victim is Shino. D: Oh no~~ That cliffhanger LOL!! Damn, need to wait for the next episode, wonder what's gonna happen? We did hear a gunshot at the end though....so....did she get shot? Is Shino dead now? o-o |
| Check out my list! :O Meep! :3 |
| I'm pretty sure Death Gun's IGN is Sterben since it means ''dying'' in german |
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Dimitrije1606 said: DerpHole said: Ok.............................................. This guy makes a public declaration that is broadcasted everywhere about how he's death gun and he kills that shotgun acrobatics guy on camera... yet the game devs/authorities can't track him down or just ban his account? Just pure fucking retardation going on in this show. There are several reasons why your statement is invalid. First, lets go from beginning. You have a rumor about a guy who can kill people from inside the game. Till that day, they had only 2 victims who died from heart attack, which was not that uncommon, stated at the very beginning. So, they decided to check that rumor. That was basically only one way taken for investigations progress. He showed up in a bar, shot a gun on a TV at a player who disconnected, which made him only a rumor. That is why Kirito went to check it out on behalf of that special agent. After the BoB tournament started, Kirito wanted to see if there was anyone named Death Gun enlisted, and there was not. Now, I am not sure about you, but I play MMORPG's a little bit. There, once you have chosen your character name, you can't rename it later on just because, which leads me that if there was no one enlisted under the name of Death Gun, then his character name is different. I seriously doubt that this guy would be as stupid to give real name of his character to everyone so they can track him whenever they wanted. Next, we have BoB tournament, to which your point refers to. Ok, we had him shot at a guy who after that immediately disconnected, after which his public announcement was given. First, the company which made this game is in America, not Japan. Their first interest would be of course to protect themselves. So, there is no way that they would give character account e-mails or even IP addresses, if things work on that concept in SAO world, because they are private, and company doesn't want to lose credibility. So, to get that information Japan PD would have to get a warrant, which would have to go through American embassy, to be checked by company's advocate and only then would they get a name of a person who controls that character. I seriously believe that in 9 PM they could get all that done, considering that police is practically is chasing a ghost. So, there is no way for them to check out if that person is still alive or not. Now, why don't they track Death Gun instead? Well, lets say that they knew his character's name.. So, again, they would have to check his IP address by the same method as they would have to do it for Pale Rider, which again is impossible. Therefore, your previous statement is invalid Oh come on. If anything the American company would likely GIVE the Japanese the IP addresses after the first few times so that they could question those involved. After the PR clusterfuck that would have followed SAO, NO COMPANY would ever protect its players identities if they thought that they were using the technology to kill people. I mean really, think about it. This madman just broadcast himself in front of all the people watching BoB. If the players he shot never come back online, rumors will spread. If rumors spread, people get terrified and leave the game. The company's reputation gets dragged through the shit, and they're effectively dead in the water. Conversely, it's very easy for them to anonymously contact the Japanese government and ask them to look into this. The government won't make the investigation public because they don't want Death Gun to be knowledgeable that the company is helping them. They use the IP addresses to locate this guy and detain him for questioning regarding the deaths. Easy peezy. I understand the company not giving out information to random players (episode 3), but the authorities?! What do they gain from refusing to cooperate? |
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Reyxe said: ... You have someone saying they can kill people irl by shooting them in game... pls go and do that in WoW or LoL and then come to say how the SWAT or your country's police went into your house. This is the same world where 10,000 people were trapped in a video game against their will that would kill them if they died in game, and couldn't be saved from the outside. Let's not pretend that people would view that sort of stuff the same way as you or I. |
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Quirkiness101 said: Reyxe said: ... You have someone saying they can kill people irl by shooting them in game... pls go and do that in WoW or LoL and then come to say how the SWAT or your country's police went into your house. This is the same world where 10,000 people were trapped in a video game against their will that would kill them if they died in game, and couldn't be saved from the outside. Let's not pretend that people would view that sort of stuff the same way as you or I. ...? still, its fucking retarded cause they died from a heartwhateveristhatshitcalled [english isnt my main, too lazy to google] so yea, you shoot someone in a game, they die and "omg omg its totally obvious hes telling the truth, lets put him in jail". As a LN reader also, giving the IP won't do shit cause they need to know HOW he kills. |
Reyxe said: still, its fucking retarded cause they died from a heartwhateveristhatshitcalled [english isnt my main, too lazy to google] so yea, you shoot someone in a game, they die and "omg omg its totally obvious hes telling the truth, lets put him in jail". As a LN reader also, giving the IP won't do shit cause they need to know HOW he kills. For a company in an industry that has already had to go through a mass murder and an attempted mass mind control experiment, a rumor that your game is the next catastrophe waiting to happen would be toxic with or without evidence. Additionally, if they need the method, just arrest and question him. Don't see how anything Kirito can do is more likely to succeed than that. Besides, it's not like Death Gun is a prominent community figure. The game company works with the government to detain him while the game company investigates what his character was doing that may have been triggering the deaths. |
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| Another epic episode of this masterpiece. I love SAO. |
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Quirkiness101 said: Reyxe said: still, its fucking retarded cause they died from a heartwhateveristhatshitcalled [english isnt my main, too lazy to google] so yea, you shoot someone in a game, they die and "omg omg its totally obvious hes telling the truth, lets put him in jail". As a LN reader also, giving the IP won't do shit cause they need to know HOW he kills. For a company in an industry that has already had to go through a mass murder and an attempted mass mind control experiment, a rumor that your game is the next catastrophe waiting to happen would be toxic with or without evidence. Additionally, if they need the method, just arrest and question him. Don't see how anything Kirito can do is more likely to succeed than that. Besides, it's not like Death Gun is a prominent community figure. The game company works with the government to detain him while the game company investigates what his character was doing that may have been triggering the deaths. Sure, that makes a lot of sense. It's a video and i'm sure that even the japanese government thought it was a joke and the only one that actually believed it was Kikuoka, then he asked Kirito to enter the game since they needed someone they already knew and had his trust to enter the game, join the BoB and find Death Gun. And like... sure, you question him and he will tell you how he's killing? lawl, stop watching CSI pls. Also, there's no way I can keep arguing with you [specially cause its pointless] without tellling you how hes killing so... watch the show and you'll understand. If they don't find out his methods, then there would a fcking million of death guns. |
ReyxeSep 2, 2014 2:54 PM
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Fai said: Yeah, that's why I said it would've been more appropriate to bring it up earlier, before he was double-teaming anyone...perhaps they aren't quite as good as the people actually in the tournament now, but they were contenders nonetheless. (And even the fight but not really a fight with Sinon is still meant to be taken as an indicator that he's a damn beast, even in GGO). Plus, look at how he was deflecting the bullets from the dude Sinon shot right after, plus that guy's reaction (if I remember it correctly). I have little trouble believing that he could've eventually beaten that guy on his own – and if the light novel disagrees or something, then the anime just did a bad job of showing it.Kyoulaid said: Anyone remember where Kirito said he can't just go in and expect to match the pros? (probably would've been more appropriate to bring up in an older thread but no matter...) Except he is not "matching the pros". He is double-teaming them right now. |
| Actually, "GGO Pros" are 99% from 'Murica, they use GGO as some training method or something, so it wouldn't be weird to see irl soldiers in that game. Japanese GGO Server = No 'muricans. Kyoulaid said: Klein and Asuna coming to the conclusion they did about DESU GAN was pretty random, I felt, and cliffhanger really ain't much of a cliffhanger (I'd be real shocked if Sinon was actually killed off here). Why? PoH was a well-known red player in SAO and his catchphrase was "It's Showtime" so it was pretty likely that it was someone close to him. |
ReyxeSep 2, 2014 4:54 PM
Takuan_Soho said: I have a bit of a tough time buying it, especially when he'd already been denying the guy his help because of the supposed implausibility of the situation. Seemed more like he was incredulous at the idea that the guy was suggesting, which would suggest that the idea of him playing in GGO was no exception. But I guess that's fair enough for me, anyway.Context. Don't forget who Kirito was talking to when he said that and the mood he was in. He had no desire to cooperate with the guy at that specific moment and was downplaying his skills in order not to get involved. Kirito only changed his mind when he realize the threat DG posed to Kirito's and Asuna's VR dream. Reyxe said: weyt wutActually, "GGO Pros" are 99% from 'Murica, they use GGO as some training method or something, so it wouldn't be weird to see irl soldiers in that game. Japanese GGO Server = No 'muricans. This from the novel? K...didn't ep 1 say that "*company name*'s servers are in 'Murica, which is why we can't contact them," anyway? That's another thing I thought was off, but whatever. Reyxe said: That's just not an uncommon thing to say, really. And I was thinking more of Asuna, since you can tell from her face that she somehow thinks that something is off as soon as the dude shows up, not to mention that the catchphrase didn't seem to tip her off since she had to have Klein explain it to her (and I doubt it was a "she recognized it subconsciously" situation, either, since it's not like she had a moment of realization after Klein explained it, far as I remember at least).Why? PoH was a well-known red player in SAO and his catchphrase was "It's Showtime" so it was pretty likely that it was someone close to him. |
Kyoulaid said: Takuan_Soho said: I have a bit of a tough time buying it, especially when he'd already been denying the guy his help because of the supposed implausibility of the situation. Seemed more like he was incredulous at the idea that the guy was suggesting, which would suggest that the idea of him playing in GGO was no exception. But I guess that's fair enough for me, anyway.Context. Don't forget who Kirito was talking to when he said that and the mood he was in. He had no desire to cooperate with the guy at that specific moment and was downplaying his skills in order not to get involved. Kirito only changed his mind when he realize the threat DG posed to Kirito's and Asuna's VR dream. Reyxe said: weyt wutActually, "GGO Pros" are 99% from 'Murica, they use GGO as some training method or something, so it wouldn't be weird to see irl soldiers in that game. Japanese GGO Server = No 'muricans. This from the novel? K...didn't ep 1 say that "*company name*'s servers are in 'Murica, which is why we can't contact them," anyway? That's another thing I thought was off, but whatever. Reyxe said: That's just not an uncommon thing to say, really. And I was thinking more of Asuna, since you can tell from her face that she somehow thinks that something is off as soon as the dude shows up, not to mention that the catchphrase didn't seem to tip her off since she had to have Klein explain it to her (and I doubt it was a "she recognized it subconsciously" situation, either, since it's not like she had a moment of realization after Klein explained it, far as I remember at least).Why? PoH was a well-known red player in SAO and his catchphrase was "It's Showtime" so it was pretty likely that it was someone close to him. Not exactly from LN, but logic? probably. Also, i don't even know how many times i need to say this, but even if he wasn't a "pro", its very unlikely that some other GGO player has more experiece with The Seed than himself, who played for 2 years straight [leveling 10 hours a day, up to 20 as stated in the novel] since GGO and SAO uses even the same sword skills [Kirito doing vertical square] he would be so used to the movements, if he were using a pistol/rifle/whatever then yea, he wouldn't stand a chance, in fact, if there were more snipers, then Kirito would probably get his ass kicked but since most of the players were rifle/smg users... How is not uncommon to say an english phrase not even related to videogames in japan? lol. Hmmm... well, I get the feeling that Asuna didn't had as much to do with LC as Klein and Kirito? so maybe that's why she didn't react to the catchphrase or something. As for the "she somehow thinks that something is off" well... watch the show, when they say who is death gun, google him and you'll know why. I would put it but it would ruin the fun, lol |
Reyxe said: Soldiers using GGO as a training method, you mean? I have a hard time coming to that conclusion with "logic," since it's not even their real bodies in the game, and since the mechanics are totally different from real life (like the accuracy of your shots relying on your state of mind, or heart or something like that). Not exactly from LN, but logic? Reyxe said: Part of the reason he said he wouldn't stand a chance is because other players put so much time into the game, yet Kirito has done the same, can transfer the results, and still cites that as a reason for why he'd be at a disadvantage, which isn't right, to some extent at least. As for using a gun, yes, I considered that, but Kirito didn't even realize how you'd have to take some time to get used to shooting if you check out his attempt at the shooting range in..one of the eps, forget which one. Seems to me that he's mostly concerned with stats and time invested, in which case, he's honestly good to go even if he's not quite on top. Also, i don't even know how many times i need to say this, but even if he wasn't a "pro", its very unlikely that some other GGO player has more experiece with The Seed than himself, who played for 2 years straight [leveling 10 hours a day, up to 20 as stated in the novel] since GGO and SAO uses even the same sword skills [Kirito doing vertical square] he would be so used to the movements, if he were using a pistol/rifle/whatever then yea, he wouldn't stand a chance, in fact, if there were more snipers, then Kirito would probably get his ass kicked but since most of the players were rifle/smg users... I already said that I'm cool with the other explanation somewhere above, anyway (edit: excuse me, somewhere on the last page). Reyxe said: I dunno, these animus lead me to believe that Engrish ain't that uncommon...I mean, look at the titles of the games..."Gangeiru Onrain" and stuff.How is not uncommon to say an english phrase not even related to videogames in japan? lol. Hmmm... well, I get the feeling that Asuna didn't had as much to do with LC as Klein and Kirito? so maybe that's why she didn't react to the catchphrase or something. As for the "she somehow thinks that something is off" well... watch the show, when they say who is death gun, google him and you'll know why. I would put it but it would ruin the fun, lol She looked all concerned and serious as soon as she saw his face, which is part of my main gripe. |
Kyoulaid said: Reyxe said: Soldiers using GGO as a training method, you mean? I have a hard time coming to that conclusion with "logic," since it's not even their real bodies in the game, and since the mechanics are totally different from real life (like the accuracy of your shots relying on your state of mind, or heart or something like that).Not exactly from LN, but logic? OH, you meant that when you asked, yes, the soldier training in GGO is from LN if i'm not mistaken. Or maybe it was that some people in GGO were real soldiers... not sure right now. Kyoulaid said: Reyxe said: Part of the reason he said he wouldn't stand a chance is because other players put so much time into the game, yet Kirito has done the same, can transfer the results, and still cites that as a reason for why he'd be at a disadvantage, which isn't right, to some extent at least. As for using a gun, yes, I considered that, but Kirito didn't even realize how you'd have to take some time to get used to shooting if you check out his attempt at the shooting range in..one of the eps, forget which one. Seems to me that he's mostly concerned with stats and time invested, in which case, he's honestly good to go even if he's not quite on top. Also, i don't even know how many times i need to say this, but even if he wasn't a "pro", its very unlikely that some other GGO player has more experiece with The Seed than himself, who played for 2 years straight [leveling 10 hours a day, up to 20 as stated in the novel] since GGO and SAO uses even the same sword skills [Kirito doing vertical square] he would be so used to the movements, if he were using a pistol/rifle/whatever then yea, he wouldn't stand a chance, in fact, if there were more snipers, then Kirito would probably get his ass kicked but since most of the players were rifle/smg users... I already said that I'm cool with the other explanation somewhere above, anyway (edit: excuse me, somewhere on the last page). Yea, Kirito just wanted to reject Kikuoka "nicely". Kyoulaid said: Reyxe said: I dunno, these animus lead me to believe that Engrish ain't that uncommon...I mean, look at the titles of the games..."Gangeiru Onrain" and stuff.How is not uncommon to say an english phrase not even related to videogames in japan? lol. Hmmm... well, I get the feeling that Asuna didn't had as much to do with LC as Klein and Kirito? so maybe that's why she didn't react to the catchphrase or something. As for the "she somehow thinks that something is off" well... watch the show, when they say who is death gun, google him and you'll know why. I would put it but it would ruin the fun, lol She looked all concerned and serious as soon as she saw his face, which is part of my main gripe. Well, but GGO was made by some 'Murica company, i don't think its that common to see people using english during normal conversations in Japan, probably. Yea, I know what you mean... well, if you really want to know, you can check the spoiler but it will ruin the "mistery" of who Death Gun is. |
| Even when he's not around all the girls from the first season can do is talk about how wonderful Kirito-kun is. Of course Sinon suddenly needs Kirito-kun to save her and tell her literally everything she needs to do.....while shoving her barely clad ass into the camera. I just don't understand how people can defend any aspect of this series. It's utter trash. |
Quirkiness101 said: Dimitrije1606 said: There are several reasons why your statement is invalid. First, lets go from beginning. You have a rumor about a guy who can kill people from inside the game. Till that day, they had only 2 victims who died from heart attack, which was not that uncommon, stated at the very beginning. So, they decided to check that rumor. That was basically only one way taken for investigations progress. He showed up in a bar, shot a gun on a TV at a player who disconnected, which made him only a rumor. That is why Kirito went to check it out on behalf of that special agent. After the BoB tournament started, Kirito wanted to see if there was anyone named Death Gun enlisted, and there was not. Now, I am not sure about you, but I play MMORPG's a little bit. There, once you have chosen your character name, you can't rename it later on just because, which leads me that if there was no one enlisted under the name of Death Gun, then his character name is different. I seriously doubt that this guy would be as stupid to give real name of his character to everyone so they can track him whenever they wanted. Next, we have BoB tournament, to which your point refers to. Ok, we had him shot at a guy who after that immediately disconnected, after which his public announcement was given. First, the company which made this game is in America, not Japan. Their first interest would be of course to protect themselves. So, there is no way that they would give character account e-mails or even IP addresses, if things work on that concept in SAO world, because they are private, and company doesn't want to lose credibility. So, to get that information Japan PD would have to get a warrant, which would have to go through American embassy, to be checked by company's advocate and only then would they get a name of a person who controls that character. I seriously believe that in 9 PM they could get all that done, considering that police is practically is chasing a ghost. So, there is no way for them to check out if that person is still alive or not. Now, why don't they track Death Gun instead? Well, lets say that they knew his character's name.. So, again, they would have to check his IP address by the same method as they would have to do it for Pale Rider, which again is impossible. Therefore, your previous statement is invalid Oh come on. If anything the American company would likely GIVE the Japanese the IP addresses after the first few times so that they could question those involved. After the PR clusterfuck that would have followed SAO, NO COMPANY would ever protect its players identities if they thought that they were using the technology to kill people. I mean really, think about it. This madman just broadcast himself in front of all the people watching BoB. If the players he shot never come back online, rumors will spread. If rumors spread, people get terrified and leave the game. The company's reputation gets dragged through the shit, and they're effectively dead in the water. Conversely, it's very easy for them to anonymously contact the Japanese government and ask them to look into this. The government won't make the investigation public because they don't want Death Gun to be knowledgeable that the company is helping them. They use the IP addresses to locate this guy and detain him for questioning regarding the deaths. Easy peezy. I understand the company not giving out information to random players (episode 3), but the authorities?! What do they gain from refusing to cooperate? Ok, lets go through it like this. You say that they would give IP addresses so the rumors won't sprea? I am fine with that. It is not that illogical, even though it is highly unlikely ( Let me put it this way- If you were told to sign something even though you didn't know what it is, would you do it?). But ok, lets say something like that can happen. That still doesn't change the fact that Japan PD was chasing a rumor. They didn't know what was happening, they merely took one more approach to investigation. I hardly believe that they would go as far to make so much commotion for a mere rumor, don't you? |
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Dimitrije1606 said: Ok, you play MMORPG's yeah? Once Kirito knew that this guy was deathgun once he killed pale rider on the bridge, he should've easily been able to figure out the guys name by "hovering" over him for a few seconds until the name popped up, and from there he can track him down.There, once you have chosen your character name, you can't rename it later on just because, which leads me that if there was no one enlisted under the name of Death Gun, then his character name is different. I seriously doubt that this guy would be as stupid to give real name of his character to everyone so they can track him whenever they wanted. Next, we have BoB tournament, to which your point refers to. Ok, we had him shot at a guy who after that immediately disconnected, after which his public announcement was given. First, the company which made this game is in America, not Japan. Their first interest would be of course to protect themselves. So, there is no way that they would give character account e-mails or even IP addresses, if things work on that concept in SAO world, because they are private, and company doesn't want to lose credibility. So, to get that information Japan PD would have to get a warrant, which would have to go through American embassy, to be checked by company's advocate and only then would they get a name of a person who controls that character. So, this game is a global hit basically yeah? You're saying here that the Jap PD is the only force all over the world who would have suspicions? Why couldn't the Americans get their own warrants? I seriously believe that in 9 PM they could get all that done, considering that police is practically is chasing a ghost. So, there is no way for them to check out if that person is still alive or not. Now, why don't they track Death Gun instead? Well, lets say that they knew his character's name.. So, again, they would have to check his IP address by the same method as they would have to do it for Pale Rider, which again is impossible. Therefore, your previous statement is invalid. Wrong actually. If they went through the proper channels and got a warrant for Pale Riders location and established a time of death that lined up with his disconnection time, that would lend credibility to their suspicions about Death Gun. They could use that increase in credibility to get a warrant on death gun himself. Two birds with one stone. That wouldn't be very exciting though would it? Kirito has to be the hero, and all the adults have to be retards.EDIT: Now, here is one more reason why they can't just arrest him. This is all conjecture. Until it's explained in a satisfactory way through the actual anime, It means nothing and I will consider it an oversight on their part. Nothing I have seen so far indicates that the developers of the virtual reality console are actively suppressing information on these incidents.Avatar is controlled by mind via AmySphere, right? That is a second generation of NerveGear. After NerveGear incident, not only was company which produced it in danger, but that technology as a whole. Now, lets say you have another incident with same consequences that Nerve Gear had. What do you think would happen to that revolutionary technology? Screw company, it would be doomed from returning money to all people who bought it. But what about technology itself? After second incident, people would just be to scared of it. So, they would gang up on anyone who tries to produce it, and in reverse, no company would produce it considering how no one would buy it. It might have military application, but technology itself would be pretty much damaged for several decades. So, that alone would be enough for a government to keep pressure on police to suppress all information about that incident. In return, they just can't make a raid on a guy in the middle of live broadcasting tournament. |
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| Sinon is not a romance interest they said...She doesnt like Kirito they said...All i see is a classic Tsundere in first stages of love... |
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LonelyWizard said: Who said she would never like him? It is still SAO. The love feelings wasn't as obvious in the LNs though...Sinon is not a romance interest they said...She doesnt like Kirito they said...All i see is a classic Tsundere in first stages of love... |
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Byon-kun said: LonelyWizard said: Who said she would never like him? It is still SAO. The love feelings wasn't as obvious in the LNs though...Sinon is not a romance interest they said...She doesnt like Kirito they said...All i see is a classic Tsundere in first stages of love... ^ the anime is making her act too tsundere-ish... still love her tho. She won't become one of his harem girls tho, not as much as the other three [counting Klein] |
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