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Jul 30, 2014 2:28 PM
#451
Jul 30, 2014 2:32 PM
#452
Rachmaninow said: SolvyTwerk4Jesus said: ahxiian said: Ahh damn.. huge storm is coming. Doubt it. If you look only 80 anime series are even being targetted. This is really a crusade against manga scanslating because japan has realized nobody is willing to spend 9.99 to own a fucking 5 minute worth of reading book with pictures. Your cosmopolitan attitude is admirable. What a charming person you are. What kind of description is Cosmopolitan? I mean, he's not discriminating against Japs, so using it as irony doesn't make any sense. It sure as hell isn't saying anything about Economic cause the 10 bucks a volume thing is BS. They sell it over there for $5, we demand it same here! |
"Justice Never Dies!" - Kenji Endou, 20th century Boys |
Jul 30, 2014 2:35 PM
#453
I still can't get over how Japan is shooting itself in the foot by doing this. How the hell do they think that people all over the world even know about their anime, manga, visual novel, and light novels? Answer: the internet. Shit, I own numerous anime figurines and at least a couple hundred manga volumes. Almost none of which I would have ever purchased if it weren't for initial exposure to these titles via the internet. |
Salmon is delicious. |
Jul 30, 2014 2:35 PM
#454
GodlyKyon said: Rachmaninow said: SolvyTwerk4Jesus said: ahxiian said: Ahh damn.. huge storm is coming. Doubt it. If you look only 80 anime series are even being targetted. This is really a crusade against manga scanslating because japan has realized nobody is willing to spend 9.99 to own a fucking 5 minute worth of reading book with pictures. Your cosmopolitan attitude is admirable. What a charming person you are. What kind of description is Cosmopolitan? I mean, he's not discriminating against Japs, so using it as irony doesn't make any sense. It sure as hell isn't saying anything about Economic cause the 10 bucks a volume thing is BS. They sell it over there for $5, we demand it same here! that well never happen if you consdier that fact the DVD and BR prices for anime are to low |
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine" When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one For the Union makes us strong |
Jul 30, 2014 2:47 PM
#455
What was it about Sadpanda and shutting down? That's not the case right now right? |
Jul 30, 2014 2:52 PM
#456
FGAU1912 said: DVD and BR prices for anime are to low |
[size=200]MAL AVATAR SYSTEM BLOWS |
Jul 30, 2014 2:53 PM
#457
FGAU1912 said: GodlyKyon said: Rachmaninow said: SolvyTwerk4Jesus said: ahxiian said: Ahh damn.. huge storm is coming. Doubt it. If you look only 80 anime series are even being targetted. This is really a crusade against manga scanslating because japan has realized nobody is willing to spend 9.99 to own a fucking 5 minute worth of reading book with pictures. Your cosmopolitan attitude is admirable. What a charming person you are. What kind of description is Cosmopolitan? I mean, he's not discriminating against Japs, so using it as irony doesn't make any sense. It sure as hell isn't saying anything about Economic cause the 10 bucks a volume thing is BS. They sell it over there for $5, we demand it same here! that well never happen if you consdier that fact the DVD and BR prices for anime are to low Y-yeah, right. Try buying a 12 episode anime for €120 |
Jul 30, 2014 2:55 PM
#458
I'm so damn glad it's only 80 series. I hope none are my favorites, and then if they are I hope none are not found on any legal sites. |
Short of the day: Monotonous Purgatory(MAL) ✰Public Domain Club | One Piece Club✰ |
Jul 30, 2014 2:57 PM
#459
IntroverTurtle said: I'm so damn glad it's only 80 series. I hope none are my favorites, and then if they are I hope none are not found on any legal sites. Since it's most likely the mainstream ones you could just watch them on CrunchyRoll.. But if it get uploaded there.. Yeah you know |
Jul 30, 2014 3:02 PM
#460
Harutora_Rin said: FGAU1912 said: GodlyKyon said: Rachmaninow said: SolvyTwerk4Jesus said: ahxiian said: Ahh damn.. huge storm is coming. Doubt it. If you look only 80 anime series are even being targetted. This is really a crusade against manga scanslating because japan has realized nobody is willing to spend 9.99 to own a fucking 5 minute worth of reading book with pictures. Your cosmopolitan attitude is admirable. What a charming person you are. What kind of description is Cosmopolitan? I mean, he's not discriminating against Japs, so using it as irony doesn't make any sense. It sure as hell isn't saying anything about Economic cause the 10 bucks a volume thing is BS. They sell it over there for $5, we demand it same here! that well never happen if you consdier that fact the DVD and BR prices for anime are to low Y-yeah, right. Try buying a 12 episode anime for €120 that ariund 40% cheaper than a full show here |
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine" When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one For the Union makes us strong |
Jul 30, 2014 3:04 PM
#461
AO968 said: A lot of those DDL sites are also on the list (like HostFile, RapidGator, etc.). Worst-case scenario, XDCC will be the only option left to download what we want, meaning I have to re-active my IRC client and relearn all that I had forgotten, assuming all the torrent sites go down (which I doubt, but you can never be too careful). The ones I care about isn't. |
Jul 30, 2014 3:08 PM
#462
Harutora_Rin said: That's what I was hoping. Crunchyroll or possibly Hulu.IntroverTurtle said: I'm so damn glad it's only 80 series. I hope none are my favorites, and then if they are I hope none are not found on any legal sites. Since it's most likely the mainstream ones you could just watch them on CrunchyRoll.. But if it get uploaded there.. Yeah you know |
Short of the day: Monotonous Purgatory(MAL) ✰Public Domain Club | One Piece Club✰ |
Jul 30, 2014 3:08 PM
#463
Just saw this. The sky is not falling. The anti-piracy effort is not to close down whole sites. It is to remove certain specific manga or anime titles. There are approx 500 manga titles and 80 anime titles to be removed as part of the anti-piracy effort. And it is also wrong to use only one train of thought to judge a japanese anime producer or studio. Certain titles they want to protect its video sales and certain titles they might even like to have more reverse import piracy. It all depends on how the production contracts were signed and how the revenue is generated. If the money is almost all generated by merchandise sales and it was setup to be an infomercial anime from the start, then they generally want the anime to spread. If certain producers are dependent on TV ad revenue or the studio's contract made it dependent on video sales instead of merchandise sales, then those entities don't want videos to spread. |
Jul 30, 2014 3:11 PM
#464
FGAU1912 said: Harutora_Rin said: FGAU1912 said: GodlyKyon said: Rachmaninow said: SolvyTwerk4Jesus said: ahxiian said: Ahh damn.. huge storm is coming. Doubt it. If you look only 80 anime series are even being targetted. This is really a crusade against manga scanslating because japan has realized nobody is willing to spend 9.99 to own a fucking 5 minute worth of reading book with pictures. Your cosmopolitan attitude is admirable. What a charming person you are. What kind of description is Cosmopolitan? I mean, he's not discriminating against Japs, so using it as irony doesn't make any sense. It sure as hell isn't saying anything about Economic cause the 10 bucks a volume thing is BS. They sell it over there for $5, we demand it same here! that well never happen if you consdier that fact the DVD and BR prices for anime are to low Y-yeah, right. Try buying a 12 episode anime for €120 that ariund 40% cheaper than a full show here I'd do almost anything for $120-$180 BD sets in Japan. |
Jul 30, 2014 3:12 PM
#465
Harutora_Rin said: What was it about Sadpanda and shutting down? That's not the case right now right? I haven't been keeping up with it but it's got something to do with Fakku, Wani, CnDs and apparently Sadpanda isn't allowing new uploads currently. So yeah. There's a thread about sadpanda's ongoing troubles too. About 50 a day for the past week, actually. People aren't happy with Fakku it appears. https://boards.4chan.org/a/thread/111283733 - This thread will probably 404 soon. |
loghneckbeardJul 30, 2014 3:16 PM
Jul 30, 2014 3:14 PM
#466
Hoppy said: FGAU1912 said: Harutora_Rin said: FGAU1912 said: GodlyKyon said: Rachmaninow said: SolvyTwerk4Jesus said: ahxiian said: Ahh damn.. huge storm is coming. Doubt it. If you look only 80 anime series are even being targetted. This is really a crusade against manga scanslating because japan has realized nobody is willing to spend 9.99 to own a fucking 5 minute worth of reading book with pictures. Your cosmopolitan attitude is admirable. What a charming person you are. What kind of description is Cosmopolitan? I mean, he's not discriminating against Japs, so using it as irony doesn't make any sense. It sure as hell isn't saying anything about Economic cause the 10 bucks a volume thing is BS. They sell it over there for $5, we demand it same here! that well never happen if you consdier that fact the DVD and BR prices for anime are to low Y-yeah, right. Try buying a 12 episode anime for €120 that ariund 40% cheaper than a full show here I'd do almost anything for $120-$180 BD sets in Japan. i know right |
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine" When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one For the Union makes us strong |
Jul 30, 2014 3:17 PM
#467
Someone ''subbed'' THAT (MAG) video.Rejoice. |
incompleteAEGISJul 30, 2014 3:23 PM
Jul 30, 2014 3:20 PM
#468
iLostReason said: Someone ''subbed'' THAT video.Rejoice. I don't want to see that piece of shit. I'd rather watch Boku no Pico than that |
Jul 30, 2014 3:24 PM
#469
Harutora_Rin said: I don't want to see that piece of shit. I'd rather watch Boku no Pico than that Good luck with that |
Jul 30, 2014 3:29 PM
#470
iLostReason said: Someone ''subbed'' THAT (MAG) video.Rejoice. Wow, that was the most amazing thing I've ever seen in my life. It has inspired me to pay for anime and manga with money I don't have. |
[size=200]MAL AVATAR SYSTEM BLOWS |
Jul 30, 2014 3:35 PM
#471
I like the idea someone posted a few pages ago, "AniSteam". As long as it eventually had most shows available for everyone, I'd pay without a doubt. |
Jul 30, 2014 3:37 PM
#472
Kalypze said: I like the idea someone posted a few pages ago, "AniSteam". As long as it eventually had most shows available for everyone, I'd pay without a doubt. That will sadly never come |
Harutora_RinJul 30, 2014 3:42 PM
Jul 30, 2014 4:08 PM
#473
He~h, I skimmed through the .pdf a bit and looks like they actually seriously think about the issue (not just "let's destroy pirrracy") and how to answer to the fans' wishes (main principle was said to be "less illegal sites" + "more legal sites" -> less piracy). They unexpectedly also considered factors such as availability, easy access and such. And while the initial announcement seemed to concentrate on Chinese piracy, there was quite a focus on America (USA?). It was funny to see that chart with Americans being willing to pay more for both manga and anime than Japanese, too XD Oh, and I think someone in this thread said they should do something like with iTunes -- that was also taken into consideration :O |
Jul 30, 2014 4:11 PM
#474
FGAU1912 said: GodlyKyon said: Rachmaninow said: SolvyTwerk4Jesus said: ahxiian said: Ahh damn.. huge storm is coming. Doubt it. If you look only 80 anime series are even being targetted. This is really a crusade against manga scanslating because japan has realized nobody is willing to spend 9.99 to own a fucking 5 minute worth of reading book with pictures. Your cosmopolitan attitude is admirable. What a charming person you are. What kind of description is Cosmopolitan? I mean, he's not discriminating against Japs, so using it as irony doesn't make any sense. It sure as hell isn't saying anything about Economic cause the 10 bucks a volume thing is BS. They sell it over there for $5, we demand it same here! that well never happen if you consdier that fact the DVD and BR prices for anime are to low What? What does that have to do with Manga? DVD and BR? Harutora_Rin said: FGAU1912 said: GodlyKyon said: Rachmaninow said: SolvyTwerk4Jesus said: ahxiian said: Ahh damn.. huge storm is coming. Doubt it. If you look only 80 anime series are even being targetted. This is really a crusade against manga scanslating because japan has realized nobody is willing to spend 9.99 to own a fucking 5 minute worth of reading book with pictures. Your cosmopolitan attitude is admirable. What a charming person you are. What kind of description is Cosmopolitan? I mean, he's not discriminating against Japs, so using it as irony doesn't make any sense. It sure as hell isn't saying anything about Economic cause the 10 bucks a volume thing is BS. They sell it over there for $5, we demand it same here! that well never happen if you consdier that fact the DVD and BR prices for anime are to low Y-yeah, right. Try buying a 12 episode anime for €120 Does this mean its too expensive?? |
"Justice Never Dies!" - Kenji Endou, 20th century Boys |
Jul 30, 2014 4:11 PM
#475
Face_Faith said: He~h, I skimmed through the .pdf a bit and looks like they actually seriously think about the issue (not just "let's destroy pirrracy") and how to answer to the fans' wishes (main principle was said to be "less illegal sites" + "more legal sites" -> less piracy). They unexpectedly also considered factors such as availability, easy access and such. And while the initial announcement seemed to concentrate on Chinese piracy, there was quite a focus on America (USA?). It was funny to see that chart with Americans being willing to pay more for both manga and anime than Japanese, too XD Oh, and I think someone in this thread said they should do something like with iTunes -- that was also taken into consideration :O That's the problem. They made a site already and most of its content is only available in America. They're not thinking about Europeans, we don't have any legal solutions and i'm not going to wait 10 years for something like that to happen |
Jul 30, 2014 4:15 PM
#476
DerpHole said: iLostReason said: Someone ''subbed'' THAT (MAG) video.Rejoice. Wow, that was the most amazing thing I've ever seen in my life. It has inspired me to pay for anime and manga with money I don't have. Still not gonna do it unless I can walk into a manga shop and buy it with $5. |
"Justice Never Dies!" - Kenji Endou, 20th century Boys |
Jul 30, 2014 4:39 PM
#477
It's actually pretty ridiculous if they think they can totally stop anime/manga piracy all of a sudden. |
Jul 30, 2014 4:40 PM
#478
Kalypze said: I like the idea someone posted a few pages ago, "AniSteam". As long as it eventually had most shows available for everyone, I'd pay without a doubt. We all would. |
In 9/10 cases, the worst thing about an anime is its fandom. |
Jul 30, 2014 4:43 PM
#479
does this mean I wont be able to watch anime or read manga on websites now (like anilinkz for example)? |
Jul 30, 2014 4:45 PM
#480
Harutora_Rin said: Face_Faith said: He~h, I skimmed through the .pdf a bit and looks like they actually seriously think about the issue (not just "let's destroy pirrracy") and how to answer to the fans' wishes (main principle was said to be "less illegal sites" + "more legal sites" -> less piracy). They unexpectedly also considered factors such as availability, easy access and such. And while the initial announcement seemed to concentrate on Chinese piracy, there was quite a focus on America (USA?). It was funny to see that chart with Americans being willing to pay more for both manga and anime than Japanese, too XD Oh, and I think someone in this thread said they should do something like with iTunes -- that was also taken into consideration :O That's the problem. They made a site already and most of its content is only available in America. They're not thinking about Europeans, we don't have any legal solutions and i'm not going to wait 10 years for something like that to happen Darn D; I'm also from Europe, but because I would rather read the Japanese original, if they do this based on regions or something, that'd be a problem (still better than nothing if there was something for Europeans, though). However, in the .pdf, there was a list of countries and whether there is a legal service available or not and since there were such available in the USA, Canada, other countries where English is spoken, France and Japan while only partly in the others that were listed, it would be strange if they didn't consider other countries/people (even if at a later point of the process) than America(ns). Actually, because of a lack of such legal services, if it wasn't for the number of pirates, it might have even made more sense to prioritise everyone else... Additionally, there were some people from the USA, Japan and France asked about the issue and someone (I believe from France) said that smaller countries should also be integrated in a possible new system and names Ecuadorians as an example. So with at least these two issues mentioned there, I do think they will include viewers/readers from smaller/other countries as well. Sigh~ Something like a region lock would be as exhausting as so many Japanese online stores refusing to take my money... ~.~ |
Face_FaithJul 30, 2014 4:50 PM
Jul 30, 2014 4:58 PM
#481
This is so pathetic. I highly doubt this would work. And if it does, I really don't think it could affect me. |
Jul 30, 2014 5:00 PM
#482
Lmao, that's cute. |
Jul 30, 2014 5:05 PM
#483
Let the hate flow through us. |
Jul 30, 2014 5:08 PM
#484
If they manage to really delete 80 anime i care about i'll just pirate my way through google |
Jul 30, 2014 5:18 PM
#485
Oh~, I see, the website isn't just up, but it seems already ready for use and looks like there's no region lock. I think when DAISUKI started, there were only very few things online then. But right now the English titles seems to be officially translated ones. If they restrict the number of works to that (which shouldn't be the case because it was again and again stated in the .pdf that a huge number of titles and easy accessability are important), it would be obvious that some smaller countries without official translations won't make it there... I imagined something different from the information in the file, but it's not like the site cannot be enhanced and/or changed. Okay, just read the "Guardians" text there a bit. "Piracy offending in Anime has been also serious. Pirated video of a popular feature-length Anime has over 12 million views on a well-known video hosting site, which should have brought in a lot of illicit profits to the “pirate” from advertisement space." If this new service is supposed to be official, couldn't they also use ads like that (as someone suggested here before) since their service is legal...? |
Jul 30, 2014 5:30 PM
#486
Face_Faith said: Oh~, I see, the website isn't just up, but it seems already ready for use and looks like there's no region lock. I think when DAISUKI started, there were only very few things online then. But right now the English titles seems to be officially translated ones. If they restrict the number of works to that (which shouldn't be the case because it was again and again stated in the .pdf that a huge number of titles and easy accessability are important), it would be obvious that some smaller countries without official translations won't make it there... I imagined something different from the information in the file, but it's not like the site cannot be enhanced and/or changed. Okay, just read the "Guardians" text there a bit. "Piracy offending in Anime has been also serious. Pirated video of a popular feature-length Anime has over 12 million views on a well-known video hosting site, which should have brought in a lot of illicit profits to the “pirate” from advertisement space." If this new service is supposed to be official, couldn't they also use ads like that (as someone suggested here before) since their service is legal...? I find the selection of that site very close to 0 And since they'll only ask to delete 80 animes i don't see a reason to use. And if i want to pay for something i'd like the physical copy but those cost around €120 At the very least, i could replace those 80 animes with Crunchyroll since €5 isn't worth anything. I'm just not seeing the appeal in that website, they should've done a better job |
Harutora_RinJul 30, 2014 5:34 PM
Jul 30, 2014 5:37 PM
#487
I'm not that worried about the anime... But what about my manga TT^TT |
Jul 30, 2014 5:40 PM
#488
kami_desu said: I'm not that worried about the anime... But what about my manga TT^TT Since they want 500 manga titles deleted i think it'll be hard to download/ read any manga online for the upcoming 5 months |
Jul 30, 2014 5:41 PM
#489
Closing the only decent options for anime is not exactly how to export their culture. Less people are going to be watching anime. Anyway, when will Japan improve their anime distribution method instead of using piracy as a scapegoat flor their failures? Seems to be popular these days. Selling badly? Damn pirates! Selling well? We're awesome... huh, what pirates? |
Jul 30, 2014 5:44 PM
#490
BatoKusanagi said: Closing the only decent options for anime is not exactly how to export their culture. Less people are going to be watching anime. Anyway, when will Japan improve their anime distribution method instead of using piracy as a scapegoat flor their failures? Seems to be popular these days. Selling badly? Damn pirates! Selling well? We're awesome... huh, what pirates? im sorry the us does not export it well either as doraemon dub and the raping of Crayon Shin chan proves |
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine" When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one For the Union makes us strong |
Jul 30, 2014 5:45 PM
#491
BatoKusanagi said: Closing the only decent options for anime is not exactly how to export their culture. Less people are going to be watching anime. Anyway, when will Japan improve their anime distribution method instead of using piracy as a scapegoat flor their failures? Seems to be popular these days. Selling badly? Damn pirates! Selling well? We're awesome... huh, what pirates? They will try but fail. That site that they put up.. Its the damn Apocalypse itself. Not even Love Hina or something only the mainstream shit. Mark my words, the anime/manga that'll get lost now will come back before 2015 |
Jul 30, 2014 5:52 PM
#492
So is there a list of the targeted anime and manga yet? |
Jul 30, 2014 5:57 PM
#493
DrizzyXP said: So is there a list of the targeted anime and manga yet? Nope, but i would imagine being the animes that don't sell shit over in Japan |
Jul 30, 2014 5:59 PM
#494
Harutora_Rin said: DrizzyXP said: So is there a list of the targeted anime and manga yet? Nope, but i would imagine being the animes that don't sell shit over in Japan So mainstream shit is safe? |
Jul 30, 2014 6:00 PM
#495
DrizzyXP said: Harutora_Rin said: DrizzyXP said: So is there a list of the targeted anime and manga yet? Nope, but i would imagine being the animes that don't sell shit over in Japan So mainstream shit is safe? I would guess so but, it could be the other way around |
Jul 30, 2014 6:21 PM
#496
Jul 30, 2014 6:23 PM
#497
Tennouji_ said: kami_desu said: I'm not that worried about the anime... But what about my manga TT^TT Well, exactly what I am thinking right now. mangapanda are run by chinese people i heard so they will not give a fuck but mangastream on the other hand are run by americans and in the past they also quit due to DMCA takedown request so mangastream might go down again |
Jul 30, 2014 6:27 PM
#498
Jul 30, 2014 6:29 PM
#499
Objurgo said: They'll only be cutting their 'hairy barbarian' viewer base in half, that's if it even works in the first place which is doubtful Doubt it with only 80 anime titles getting removed. As for manga, yeah that will happen |
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