| So, the original material will just be a connection to Fate/Zero? At first I thought they were going to mix things from all of the 3 routes. |
Forgetfulness said: Is GoB the Gate of Babylon and Ea is Enuma Aish (don't know how to spell)? Also, why the hell would he not use that?! It's the strongest thing in the series.Reverb_Shock said: Not really. Well he spams GoB way more than anything in F/Z, but he never uses Ea like he did against We talkin' as strong as F/Z Gilgamesh, cause that was pretty OP. As for Lancer form F/Z, I've always felt that he was ripped off from getting his full fight with Saber. He was one upping her for a bit until the bad luck hit. Is bad luck a common theme with all the Lancers? And yeah, it's a running joke. |
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Fai said: That's true ending.Botato said: Saber should just die and stay dead. Her fans will be too busy fangirling over Archer, Gilgamesh, and Lancer anyway to even give a shit about Saber. I am sure it will be normal ending. They will just most likely add saber;s development from fate route to it without the romance. So her holds same meaning as her choice in Fate route. |
Reverb_Shock said: Fai said: Gilgamesh is supposedly the strongest, right? Does he get exposed this route or no? Also, what do you think about Lancer? From watching fate stay night and the UBW movie, I like the F/Z Lancer more than the F/SN one.That's pretty much it. Also Reverb_Shock said: Forgetfulness said: Is GoB the Gate of Babylon and Ea is Enuma Aish (don't know how to spell)? Also, why the hell would he not use that?! It's the strongest thing in the series.Not really. Well he spams GoB way more than anything in F/Z, but he never uses Ea like he did against And yeah, it's a running joke. Because he's Gilgamesh. Using his best treasure against someone is same as being desecrated and sodomized for him. And Shirou is ultimate opposite of everything GIlgamesh sees himself as - he has nothing of his own, even his weapons are fake. Gilgamesh can't comprehend that he would NEED it. In a sense F/0 Rider was unlucky because Gil counted him as worthy. |
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Reverb_Shock said: Forgetfulness said: Is GoB the Gate of Babylon and Ea is Enuma Aish (don't know how to spell)? Also, why the hell would he not use that?! It's the strongest thing in the series.Not really. Well he spams GoB way more than anything in F/Z, but he never uses Ea like he did against And yeah, it's a running joke. Ea is the "sword" Enuma Elish is the attack. Gil has a lot of pride.He wont use Ea on mongrels who he thinks have no real power.He almost killed Tokiomi when he asked him to kill Caster with it. |
| I think we should make this clear right now. F/SN servants are God-tier. F/Z servants can only be compared with F/SN because Gil has enough haxx to bring up the collective OPness of everyone from F/0 close enough to F/SN. |
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| You guys seem to be convincing me that Gilgamesh and Lancer are fucking badasses. I kinda wanna read the visual novel now cause I already have it downloaded... Quick question |
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Botato said: Kaioshin_Sama said: Holy shit exactly as expected.It's MAL. Hype is pretty much this boards default reaction and answer to everything. Speaking of which I'm absolutely stunned they didn't go with Yuki Kajiura for maximum hype here. She must have been unavailable or something, but that opens up the soundtrack to a lot of possibilities beyond the usual chanting and celtic rhythms here. Maybe some remixes of the games original tracks or a whole know style fusion or something potentially. lol I love how people make so much of my comments but never really bother to tell me how I'm wrong or actually engage in conversation. It's just like yep, that guy there made a post and I'm going to highlight one passage instead of you know actually engaging in conversation for a change. Not sure if people are trying to build a strawman here, but it's kind of amusing. Anyway I'm actually liking how the trailers for this actually seem relatively low key and atmospheric. I actually quite liked the one for Heaven's Feel a lot. It's done a good job in getting me interested in seeing these new adaptations again without having to resort to any grand promises or a massive blitzkrieg ad campaign. Not that it's going to make the thread particularly more readable in the long run, but I have a feeling this is going to be a solid show in a strong Fall lineup. See the thing is I actually am quite interested in and kind of like what I've seen of the Type/Moon universe, just not as intensely as some others. Different people have different ways of expressing interest in things after all. |
HeisenDurden said: Said every fujoshi ever.F/Z Lancer >>>>>>> F/SN Lancer ;) Lancer is indeed the biggest bro of them all, though. Man, UBW just made me love so many characters, now that I think about it. Even Shirou was bearable, when I remember before playing the route how initially afraid I was that him having a romance with Rin would her character, especially after the Shirou x Saber fiasco. How wrong I was. |
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Kaioshin_Sama said: And I just love it when you ignore previous posts where 3 different people almost simultaneously said that the UBW movie was a horrible adaptation, and being a TV series this time will most likely do it justice thus we are hyped.lol I love how people make so much of my comments but never really bother to tell me how I'm wrong or actually engage in conversation. It's just like yep, that guy there made a post and I'm going to highlight one passage instead of you know actually engaging in conversation for a change. Not sure if people are trying to build a strawman here, but it's kind of amusing. I find it amusing how YOUR answer to EVERYTHING is "MAL just loves hypes." |
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Reverb_Shock said: You guys seem to be convincing me that Gilgamesh and Lancer are fucking badasses. I kinda wanna read the visual novel now cause I already have it downloaded... Quick question Nor really accurate except from Gil but thee you go: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=435277 The thread will be GREATLY derailed if we start this here. |
| hsbfwejhfbwehjfbwejh get skdbsa fucking hype, KAJSBDFSAIHJFBWESHFBEWHJWEBJHFWEBEFBJWEJEUWWVFVH |
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Botato said: Kaioshin_Sama said: And I just love it when you ignore previous posts where 3 different people almost simultaneously said that the UBW movie was a horrible adaptation, and being a TV series this time will most likely do it justice thus we are hyped.lol I love how people make so much of my comments but never really bother to tell me how I'm wrong or actually engage in conversation. It's just like yep, that guy there made a post and I'm going to highlight one passage instead of you know actually engaging in conversation for a change. Not sure if people are trying to build a strawman here, but it's kind of amusing. I find it amusing how YOUR answer to EVERYTHING is "MAL just loves hypes." Errr....I've been over this with people before, I actually agree. I thought the whole point of doing a remake was so that they could do that route more justice. I wasn't aware I needed to address that particular point. The MAL loves hype is just a general aside and I don't know I think it's a pretty true statement with plenty of evidence to support it. Of course people might have some specific reasons for getting hyped up about this one, but that's not really the point. Personally I've just never seen the point in getting all hyped up and splurging on forums. I've always just kind of been a watch the anime, let it speak for itself and react kind of guy. It's not that I don't anticipate anything, I just don't understand the need to make huge ridiculous splurging posts on internet forums that drown out actual quality discussion and over dramatize specific anime's quality and worth ahead of others before they've even aired. Anyway maybe stop trying to build a strawman out of me like I'm just your typical dumb brainless poster that doesn't put any thought and consideration into what I say. It's kind of...I don't know...not really the case lol. You don't have to agree with my views on certain fan tendencies I find really dumb and utterly pointless on MAL, but at least make some attempt to understand them without having to par it all down to typical dumb fan/anti-fan stuff that really has no bearing on what I'm pointing out. |
PeacingOutJul 27, 2014 11:36 AM
ssjokg said: Ok thanks, I'll leave you guys with your hype :)Reverb_Shock said: You guys seem to be convincing me that Gilgamesh and Lancer are fucking badasses. I kinda wanna read the visual novel now cause I already have it downloaded... Quick question Nor really accurate except from Gil but thee you go: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=435277 The thread will be GREATLY derailed if we start this here. |
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Kaioshin_Sama said: The fact is fans have every reason to be hyped for this adaptation. Whether MAL loves hypes or not has nothing to do with this.Errr....I've been over this with people before, I actually agree. I thought the whole point of doing a remake was so that they could do that route more justice. I wasn't aware I needed to address that particular point. The MAL loves hype is just a general aside and I don't know I think it's a pretty true statement with plenty of evidence to support it. Of course people might have some specific reasons for getting hyped up about this one, but that's not really the point. Kaioshin_Sama said: Considering that has happened a few times already, I'm not sure I can stop being skeptical about most of the things you post.Maybe stop trying to build a strawman out of me like I'm just your typical dumb brainless poster that doesn't put any thought and consideration into what I say. It's kind of...I don't know...not really the case lol. |
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Botato said: Kaioshin_Sama said: The fact is fans have every reason to be hyped for this adaptation. Whether MAL loves hypes or not has nothing to do with this.Errr....I've been over this with people before, I actually agree. I thought the whole point of doing a remake was so that they could do that route more justice. I wasn't aware I needed to address that particular point. The MAL loves hype is just a general aside and I don't know I think it's a pretty true statement with plenty of evidence to support it. Of course people might have some specific reasons for getting hyped up about this one, but that's not really the point. Kaioshin_Sama said: Considering that has happened a few times already, I'm not sure I can stop being skeptical about most of the things you post.Maybe stop trying to build a strawman out of me like I'm just your typical dumb brainless poster that doesn't put any thought and consideration into what I say. It's kind of...I don't know...not really the case lol. Welp....I'm sorry I'm not a typical MAL poster with typical posting habits and comments then. Can't be helped I guess. I'll be watching the show in the Fall and I'll surely have more to say about the episodes then that aren't just all splurging or all complaining. I'm sure it'll be a fine show...... |
Kaioshin_Sama said: Judging by the PVs it should be a fine show.I'll be watching the show in the Fall and I'll surely have more to say about the episodes then that aren't just all splurging or all complaining. I'm sure it'll be a fine show...... |
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Botato said: I think we should make this clear right now. F/SN servants are God-tier. F/Z servants can only be compared with F/SN because Gil has enough haxx to bring up the collective OPness of everyone from F/0 close enough to F/SN. FSN Rin alone could fuck up most of F/0 Masters. Reverb_Shock said: You guys seem to be convincing me that Gilgamesh and Lancer are fucking badasses. I kinda wanna read the visual novel now cause I already have it downloaded... Quick question |
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Fai said: I meant servants only.Botato said: I think we should make this clear right now. F/SN servants are God-tier. F/Z servants can only be compared with F/SN because Gil has enough haxx to bring up the collective OPness of everyone servants from F/0 close enough to F/SN. FSN Rin alone could fuck up most of F/0 Masters. |
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Reverb_Shock said: You guys seem to be convincing me that Gilgamesh and Lancer are fucking badasses. I kinda wanna read the visual novel now cause I already have it downloaded... Quick question |
Hexenmeister said: Hell No.Fate Route Saber > Gilgamesh > Iskandar >= F/Z or UBW Saber > others[/spoiler] |
Hexenmeister said: Reverb_Shock said: You guys seem to be convincing me that Gilgamesh and Lancer are fucking badasses. I kinda wanna read the visual novel now cause I already have it downloaded... Quick question Sorry but in no way does FSN Saber stand as high. |
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Fai said: Hexenmeister said: Sorry but in no way does FSN Saber stand as high. She does, but only with Avalon. |
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antonn said: Fai said: Sorry but in no way does FSN Saber stand as high. She does, but only with Avalon. Even with that, no she does not. |
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| It took me about 20 minutes to read through all of this, so go my favorite route! Yorokobe shounen, kimi no negai wa youyaku kanau |
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Forgetfulness said: Hexenmeister said: What the fuck?Saber is stronger in UBW and F/Z than in Fate. Saber does not beat Gilgamesh Saber also does not beat Iskandar well projecting avalon protects the user from ALL physical interactions. she can take Enuma Elish to the face and not give a damn. she can only be harmed by 3 of the 4 sorceries which none of the servants can use. plus she did beat gilgamesh the so called strongest servant in a one on one fight with avalon |
HexenmeisterJul 27, 2014 12:25 PM
Hexenmeister said: Forgetfulness said: What the fuck? Saber is stronger in UBW and F/Z than in Fate. Saber does not beat Gilgamesh Saber also does not beat Iskandar well projecting avalon protects the user from ALL physical interactions. she can take Enuma Elish to the face and not give a damn. she can only be harmed by 3 of the 4 sorceries which none of the servants can use. plus she did beat gilgamesh the so called strongest servant in a one on one fight with avalon If Gilgamesh ever bothered to seriously fight her, she would be dead meat. All he has to use is Vimana and bombard her with weapons. If she's resisting, he can use Enkidu to restrain her for a moment. He can also use dragon-killing weapons to quickly dispose of her. |
If Gilgamesh ever bothered to seriously fight her, she would be dead meat. All he has to use is Vimana and bombard her with weapons. If she's resisting, he can use Enkidu to restrain her for a moment. He can also use dragon-killing weapons to quickly dispose of her. what does protect from all physical interactions except for sorceries don't you get? |
C-Core said: Hexenmeister said: well projecting avalon protects the user from ALL physical interactions. she can take Enuma Elish to the face and not give a damn. she can only be harmed by 3 of the 4 sorceries which none of the servants can use. plus she did beat gilgamesh the so called strongest servant in a one on one fight with avalon If Gilgamesh ever bothered to seriously fight her, she would be dead meat. All he has to use is Vimana and bombard her with weapons. If she's resisting, he can use Enkidu to restrain her for a moment. He can also use dragon-killing weapons to quickly dispose of her. F/sn Gilgamesh doesn't have Vimana, but regardless of that you're right. Serious Gil would beat Arturia. |
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Hexenmeister said: If Gilgamesh ever bothered to seriously fight her, she would be dead meat. All he has to use is Vimana and bombard her with weapons. If she's resisting, he can use Enkidu to restrain her for a moment. He can also use dragon-killing weapons to quickly dispose of her. what does protect from all physical interactions except for sorceries don't you get? It's you who doesn't get it. So Gil can't hit her when she's inside Avalon, so what? She can't hit him, so she cannot defeat Gil if he ever gets serious. So no, Avalon Saber > Gilgamesh is wrong. HeisenDurden said: F/sn Gilgamesh doesn't have Vimana. Show me the proof that says he only has one. |
stAtic91 said: Keetriver said: UBW is split 2-cour. HF is a movie or several.Heaven's Feel route confirmed as well I dun get it...Is it mixed or is the anime split into 2 separate parts? I don't get it, why HF doesn't get a TV-series? There is UBW as movie too, so who cares about TV-series for UBW? All 3 routes are nice, but i prefer HF as TV-series far more than UBW. I've been excited when Fate/StayNight remake was announced. My first thought was that they are going to animate the HF-route because this route is still open and i hyped that. But this announcement is a bit punch in my belly. Glad to read that they make a movie for HF, but i prefer that as TV-series. |
C-Core said: Hexenmeister said: what does protect from all physical interactions except for sorceries don't you get? It's you who doesn't get it. So Gil can't hit her when she's inside Avalon, so what? She can't hit him, so she cannot defeat Gil if he ever gets serious. So no, Avalon Saber > Gilgamesh is wrong. how can she not "hit him" when she clearly attacked him while using avalon in the visual novel fate route? they already fought and she won. why is this even an argument? nothing gilgamesh owns can attack saber and she can clearly attack gilgamesh. |
KyoKirifu said: stAtic91 said: UBW is split 2-cour. HF is a movie or several. I don't get it, why HF doesn't get a TV-series? There is UBW as movie too, so who cares about TV-series for UBW? All 3 routes are nice, but i prefer HF as TV-series far more than UBW. I've been excited when Fate/StayNight remake was announced. My first thought was that they are going to animate the HF-route because this route is still open and i hyped that. But this announcement is a bit punch in my belly. Glad to read that they make a movie for HF, but i prefer that as TV-series. 1. The UBW movie is shit. Really, it's shit. Enough said. 2. Movies are more flexible. Considering how dark HF actually is, it's not a dumb idea if they make a movie series à la Kara no Kyoukai. |
KyoKirifu said: We all do since there isn't a good adaptation for UBW.stAtic91 said: UBW is split 2-cour. HF is a movie or several. I don't get it, why HF doesn't get a TV-series? There is UBW as movie too, so who cares about TV-series for UBW? |
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C-Core said: It's you who doesn't get it. So Gil can't hit her when she's inside Avalon, so what? She can't hit him, so she cannot defeat Gil if he ever gets serious. So no, Avalon Saber > Gilgamesh is wrong. The attacks bounce back of it. Avalon Saber>Gilgamesh. Not even a question anymore. P.S she already defeated him in Fate. |
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| Obviously a lot of people care about UBW getting a TV series. But, even as a pro-HF guy, I think it would be better suited to a movie series. Less censorship would really help the route, imo. Though, that's only if it's a movie series. One movie would be bad. |
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Hexenmeister said: C-Core said: It's you who doesn't get it. So Gil can't hit her when she's inside Avalon, so what? She can't hit him, so she cannot defeat Gil if he ever gets serious. So no, Avalon Saber > Gilgamesh is wrong. how can she not "hit him" when she clearly attacked him while using avalon in the visual novel fate route? they already fought and she won. why is this even an argument? nothing gilgamesh owns can attack saber and she can clearly attack gilgamesh. Gilgamesh on Vimana. I already said that. Tell me how Saber is supposed to hit him when he is flying in the air all the time. In Fate, Avalon blocks Ea's attack and Gilgamesh can't stop it. If he bothered to go range like a proper Archer she is dead. The difference in their fight was also the info they gathered. Gil knew about Excalibur, so he willingly used Ea against her, but he didn't know about Avalon. Saber on the other hand knew about his Ea, because he showed it to her. You're right, this isn't even an argument. Saber cannot defeat a serious Gilgamesh. |
C-Core said: Hexenmeister said: how can she not "hit him" when she clearly attacked him while using avalon in the visual novel fate route? they already fought and she won. why is this even an argument? nothing gilgamesh owns can attack saber and she can clearly attack gilgamesh. Gilgamesh on Vimana. I already said that. Tell me how Saber is supposed to hit him when he is flying in the air all the time. In Fate, Avalon blocks Ea's attack and Gilgamesh can't stop it. If he bothered to go range like a proper Archer she is dead. The difference in their fight was also the info they gathered. Gil knew about Excalibur, so he willingly used Ea against her, but he didn't know about Avalon. Saber on the other hand knew about his Ea, because he showed it to her. You're right, this isn't even an argument. Saber cannot defeat a serious Gilgamesh. Even if Gilgamesh get's serious and uses Vimana the best he can do is fire weapons from a distance which literally does nothing against avalon. She could sleep there and he couldn't touch her. I did say "Gilgamesh is still the strongest servant so far in dealing damage." but there's no way he can beat avalon Saber. AND excalibur's range is 1-99 which is the highest range shown in noble phantasms. let's just leave it at gilgamesh is the strongest in dealing damage but he can't beat saber. |
Source: said: Gilgamesh [Servant] The Archer of the previous Grail War. Mankind's oldest king of heroes, who defeated Saber. For more details, refer to his status screen in the game. As no proper Heroic Spirit can match this man, he could be called the "Servant Killer". Without a doubt, he is the strongest existence amongst the Servants. Though he lost due to obsession against Saber… Though he lost due to pride against Shirou… Though he lost due to carelessness against XXXXX… …the fact of the matter is that if he actually gets serious, he is a Servant that cannot be rivaled. There. Word of God. But protest all you want that he can't beat Saber. Btw, that's not the only material book where it's stated that no one can beat him. But it's essentially the same. Gil loses every time because of his pride and arrogance. |
CapsuleCoreJul 27, 2014 1:03 PM
| I am sorry guys, but I keep laughing at all the saber wank that is going on. DOn't tell me you are taking the troll seriously? |
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| This "Avalon Saber>Gil" gives me cancer. |
Fai said: I am sorry guys, but I keep laughing at all the saber wank that is going on. DOn't tell me you are taking the troll seriously? I actually was taking this seriously, because I usually assume it's not a troll, but just someone who doesn't know enough. Perhaps it was wrong doing so. |
| My body was not ready...That's the only thing that I can muster up right now... I am beyond hyped |
| I love how this subforum has around 4k posts and there are still 3 months before airing. Well, I guess that's the power of Rin+Archer for ya. |
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