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Silent-Knight said: I really wanted madhouse to end with meruem to meet komugi but oh well next weekfor sure next week is the finale of this arc :*( Such a good arc!! Yeah, even I'm very curious how Meruem will see Komugi now after he now remembers her ( It's so sweet how much he values her; I really love the atmosphere it showed them playing Gungi with such beautiful flowers view: it represent the love he sees in her: SO CUTE, I REALLY SHIP MERUEM X KOMUGI TOGETHER SO MUCH: my favorite couple from HxH). I can't wait for the next episode, I can't believe the next one is the finale of the arc ( something is telling me that next one will be very emotional to watch; I better get some tissue ready. :( |
sweetangieJun 17, 2014 6:05 PM
| When the king remembered Komugi, one of the most breath taking and beautiful revelations I've seen. Pure magic. I thought the king was Gyro? :/ LOL |
avelysJun 17, 2014 6:31 PM
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Geinrendour said: Stop calling it poison, people. It's understandable that the author changed the name, but we all know it's radiation and I hope everybody knows its effects. Also, the "I won't die until I'm dead" thing is a reference of some sort? If it is, can anyone explain it to me? Next week it'll be beautiful. That's not radiation. Radiation doesn't kill you that quickly. By it's nature that's poison. Besides they blatantly show that it's not radiation. |
bleachjoj said: Geinrendour said: Stop calling it poison, people. It's understandable that the author changed the name, but we all know it's radiation and I hope everybody knows its effects. Also, the "I won't die until I'm dead" thing is a reference of some sort? If it is, can anyone explain it to me? Next week it'll be beautiful. That's not radiation. Radiation doesn't kill you that quickly. By it's nature that's poison. Lethal doses of radiation kills you instantly. The thing though is that it s not contagious (which it is in hxh). |
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jhoanais said: When the king remembered Komugi, one of the most breath taking and beautiful revelations I've seen. Pure magic. I thought the king was Gyro? :/ LOL My thoughts exactly, when the king remembered Kogumi is so beautiful and pure : the only thing he has that's very important to him) :) Me too, for the moment even I thought that perhaps that Meruem could turn out to be Gyro's reincarnation, but I guess it didn't turn out to be. |
| what an interesting and EPIC episode ... (may be the next one will be more... ) oh man... can't wait for next episode hope tomorrow is Wednesday Lol.. sweetangie said: Silent-Knight said: I really wanted madhouse to end with meruem to meet komugi but oh well next weekfor sure next week is the finale of this arc :*( Such a good arc!! Yeah, even I'm very curious how Meruem will see Komugi now after he now remembers her ( It's so sweet how much he values her; I really love the atmosphere it showed them playing Gungi with such beautiful flowers view: it represent the love he sees in her: SO CUTE, I REALLY SHIP MERUEM X KOMUGI TOGETHER SO MUCH: my favorite couple from HxH). I can't wait for the next episode, I can't believe the next one is the finale of the arc ( something is telling me that next one will be very emotional to watch; I better get some tissue ready. :( what!? the next one is the last episode for this arc T.T i see, that's why people can't wait for the next episode Lol... |
Recalls2006Jun 17, 2014 6:57 PM
TheDodo said: bleachjoj said: That's not radiation. Radiation doesn't kill you that quickly. By it's nature that's poison. Lethal doses of radiation kills you instantly. The thing though is that it s not contagious (which it is in hxh). What? Of course it's contagious. For God's sake, what you guys have learnt in school? Once you get it (or anything gets it), it doesn't get out of you and you pass (affect in general) it to other people (or anything). Go study, people. |
GeinrendourJun 17, 2014 7:06 PM
| That was a nice episode, that ending was so epic. Gave me chills when Welfin said "Komugi" and even more when Meruem responds saying for welfin go look for Gyro and that he hopes he can live as a human. |
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bleachjoj said: TheDodo said: Alright the following is pure speculation: I think Pitou was capable of a lot more. I am not sure you would perform a surgery without knowing anything about a body's chemistry. Also I think she was the one who created the ant version of Palm. There are a couple of references about Pitou's experiments in the manga that suggest her bio-chemistry skills. Another thing is even if she couldn't heal the King, nothing tells us she would get infected, Pouf and Yupi were the only ones infected besides the King so far because there went within the explosion's area. She could have taken out the remaining hunters and declare herself Queen of the ants. Yeah it does say she would be infected. The poison is constantly evolving and creates a chain reaction of death. If Pitou hung around the King long enough it would be over for her too. Satan-sama said: You can't compare a mere human like Uvo with Meruem, also he looks so healthy and unharmed unlike Pouf. He was bleeding from his nose just an episode ago I though that it related to his memory loss .. stupid me. you're right, I didn't take his nose bleeding seriously lol |
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| Meruem+Komugi <3 <3 <3 is definitely a better love story than twilight |
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Geinrendour said: TheDodo said: Lethal doses of radiation kills you instantly. The thing though is that it s not contagious (which it is in hxh). What? Of course it's contagious. For God's sake, what you guys have learnt in school? Once you get it (or anything gets it), it doesn't get out of you and you pass it to other people (or anything). Go study, people. Radiation is not 'contagious'. Activated material from radiation can be dangerous though. The human body typically does not get activated by radiation (only Na and P get some activation from neutrons). |
| Das Feenreich! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUvxzKt5GoM |
Mizzo said: Meruem+Komugi <3 <3 <3 is definitely a better love story than twilight Spam -_- |
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| and this... this is why i fucking love this show. the emotions i had through this episode were unspeakable. This show <3 |
TheDodo said: Geinrendour said: What? Of course it's contagious. For God's sake, what you guys have learnt in school? Once you get it (or anything gets it), it doesn't get out of you and you pass it to other people (or anything). Go study, people. Radiation is not 'contagious'. Activated material from radiation can be dangerous though. The human body typically does not get activated by radiation (only Na and P get some activation from neutrons). Yeah, contagious is not the right term, but you get the idea |
edroxel said: SaSa-Zoldyck said: I'm probably the only one who thinks like this but I dislike how Meruem doesn't give a shit about his guards. Youpi died when he was trying to save Meruem's ass yet he sees Youpi's corpse and is like ''what ever''. Honestly they deserved a better leader You are definitely right when u said that u are the only one thinking like than. If he was to find of his guards he'll look more like Gon, and thus will loose that personality his has we all (expect sasa-zoldyck) love First of all, learn to quote. Secondly, what the hell are you trying to say? Spelling mistakes? That's fine. But having to fix your grammar/insert words just so it would make sense is something else. Most people like Meruem because of how he has grown as a character a.k.a. character development. Plenty of people here think Meruem has a shitty personality and I thought the same thing when he was born. Of course, I grew to like him as he developed but Sasa brings up a good point that he's pretty shitty towards his guards. And I think you'll have a rather different opinion of him next episode given what he says. But at the end, I hope you realize that "this too, was the king." |
| So, hiding underground is futile aside from buying some time. And lol @preview |
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| Poor Pouf :( that loyal bastard deserves better. Welfin aging 100 years and having his life flash before his eyes lol worthy :) Meruem <3 Wow, I agree, he really seems cold to his guards but he his caring part didn't really exist until now so he didn't care about bonding with them. |
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| Poor Welfin lol, felt bad for him when he was talking to the king. |
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| Welfins last line to the Mereum he grew balls it feels like next week will be the last episode but i might be wrong |
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StefanHere said: Welfins last line to the Mereum he grew balls it feels like next week will be the last episode but i might be wrong It's confirm that the ant arc will end on episode 135. It seems like it will be rushed..... I guess we'll have to see how it ends, because I've a few questions that are bugging me about this arc. |
| I really loved how they started this episode. Showing how cruel and greedy humans are was a really nice touch to add. Another episode dedicated to the King and Pouf <3 OST Help. Does anyone know the name of the song that starts at around 11:43 of this episode, and goes to around 13:08? |
Tsunn said: SaSa-Zoldyck said: I'm probably the only one who thinks like this but I dislike how Meruem doesn't give a shit about his guards. Youpi died when he was trying to save Meruem's ass yet he sees Youpi's corpse and is like ''what ever''. Honestly they deserved a better leader. I'd like to chime in on this and say yeah you're right but it's not a bad thing. And he's always been like that. He's nearly killed royal guards for relatively minor missteps. For him to suddenly care for them would be weird. For Meruem it's more appropriate that he expects their loyalty and yes take it for granted. It's a given and if they die oh well. He's never been protective of any living thing except Komugi. Not that he's a bad leader at all he just doesn't care about being friendly with people but he has grown to display mercy. And he did look like he was nearly about to kill Welfin when he first encountered him. So it wasn't like he shrugged at his death so much as the situation was developing faster than he could or bother to waste time getting upset by it. Yeah, I agree with this as well. Meruem isn't THAT big of a shithead. Yes, they could have had a better and more compassionate leader but then we wouldn't have the character that is Meruem. And as you've said, he did show mercy to Youpi when he was being honest. He did honor their little "competition" so it's safe to say that Meruem is rather merciful. But he's also a hardass that rules with an iron fist. He actually reminds me of that fat king from the first few chapters of Berserk, just better done as a character. |
| Excellent episode! I loved the way they animated the "humanity" scene. Also, that preview haha! |
| Usually when a person says this it's meant in a good way, because something was so awesome... not so much this time. But, here goes. I honestly cannot put my thoughts into words about this one. I admit Meruem has had good moral development. Growing from an evil ant bent on world domination who killed indiscriminately both ants and humans into a creature who wishes to retain some semblance of his humanity because of love for a human. This has been done well, better than I've seen in some other anime. However, it hasn't changed my opinion of the character. And this is where I have trouble putting my thoughts into words here. I hate the character. I haven't been all that impressed by this arc in general, but I really just cannot stand the King and think that such excellent character development has been wasted on him. It's hard to explain why I hate him so much, both his appearance and completely unnecessary amounts of power remind me of Cell from DBZ. I hate villains that are so stupid powerful like him, Cell, and Aizen where the final defeat of them just feels cheap and anti-climatic. Cell, no one could beat him. Not Goku, even after Cell self destructs and blows up King Kai's planet. Not Vegeta, Trunks, or even Gohan. Then we get some asspull where the one armed, near death, Gohan is aided by his dead father and beats him with a kamehameha. Aizen, no one could beat him. The absolute strongest characters in the entire series get beat by him over and over. Ichigo uses the most powerful attack possible, his final getsuga tenshou, and still doesn't kill him. Then we get some asspull that Urahara secretly hid a seal within his earlier kido attacks that would not activate until he took massive damage or some crap like that. Meruem has what could have been an epic fight with Netero, ruined FOR ME by the narration, somehow survives the most powerful nuke ever invented, is revived by consuming his guards, but yet is going to die anyway because that bomb that could not kill him at point blank range actually creates some kind poison that evolves and spreads and cannot be stopped. So maybe I managed to put it into words after all, cause that about sums it up. These are just my thoughts and opinions though, so I know most of you will disagree. I'm just glad this arc is finally ending. |
| Odds are I'm not going to find my way back to a thread after my first post, it happens on occasion but not often. So, if I say something that offends you and you feel the need to force your opinion on me because obviously everyone should have your opinion or none at all, feel free to post it in the thread that I'll probably never see again. However, if you are interested in intelligent discourse, feel free to message me. |
| The King seems to finally remember Komugi. Welfin was scared as hell. That aging process!!! |
"I’ve set myself to become the King of the Pirates…and if I die trying…then at least I tried!" Monkey D. Luffy (One Piece) |
| Wow, from beginning to end that was an amazing, beautiful and powerful episode. I loved every second of it, it was the best episode since 131. Unfortunately I spoiled the ending for myself a few weeks ago, but I'm still excited to see how the anime adapts the next episode it will be a beautiful one. The HxH anime adapted this episode so much better than the manga did, I absolutely loved this episode, I'm not going to go into detail about my thoughts on the episode because I thought it was perfect from beginning to end, absolutely perfect. What a powerful episode, especially towards the end. Amazing episode, 5/5. |
keragamming said: StefanHere said: Welfins last line to the Mereum he grew balls it feels like next week will be the last episode but i might be wrong It's confirm that the ant arc will end on episode 135. It seems like it will be rushed..... I guess we'll have to see how it ends, because I've a few questions that are bugging me about this arc. No chimera ant arc ends on episode 136. Election arc starts on 137 |
| Get those tissues ready people. |
| OMG such an intense episode. I'm glad the King remembered Komugi. I feel like I'll be crying when this arc ends. I see a really sad conclusion to this arc. Meruem is probably the only shounen villian where I've felt some kind of attachment. He had some really great development. Props to Welfin. He has some serious balls. |
Ragna92Jun 17, 2014 9:30 PM
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The_Bif said: Usually when a person says this it's meant in a good way, because something was so awesome... not so much this time. But, here goes. I honestly cannot put my thoughts into words about this one. I admit Meruem has had good moral development. Growing from an evil ant bent on world domination who killed indiscriminately both ants and humans into a creature who wishes to retain some semblance of his humanity because of love for a human. This has been done well, better than I've seen in some other anime. However, it hasn't changed my opinion of the character. And this is where I have trouble putting my thoughts into words here. I hate the character. I haven't been all that impressed by this arc in general, but I really just cannot stand the King and think that such excellent character development has been wasted on him. It's hard to explain why I hate him so much, both his appearance and completely unnecessary amounts of power remind me of Cell from DBZ. I hate villains that are so stupid powerful like him, Cell, and Aizen where the final defeat of them just feels cheap and anti-climatic. Cell, no one could beat him. Not Goku, even after Cell self destructs and blows up King Kai's planet. Not Vegeta, Trunks, or even Gohan. Then we get some asspull where the one armed, near death, Gohan is aided by his dead father and beats him with a kamehameha. Aizen, no one could beat him. The absolute strongest characters in the entire series get beat by him over and over. Ichigo uses the most powerful attack possible, his final getsuga tenshou, and still doesn't kill him. Then we get some asspull that Urahara secretly hid a seal within his earlier kido attacks that would not activate until he took massive damage or some crap like that. Meruem has what could have been an epic fight with Netero, ruined FOR ME by the narration, somehow survives the most powerful nuke ever invented, is revived by consuming his guards, but yet is going to die anyway because that bomb that could not kill him at point blank range actually creates some kind poison that evolves and spreads and cannot be stopped. So maybe I managed to put it into words after all, cause that about sums it up. These are just my thoughts and opinions though, so I know most of you will disagree. I'm just glad this arc is finally ending. But...it wasn't the most powerful nuke (which I think is worse). It is small budget and mass-produced. I was hoping for an explanation as to why it was not used earlier before the end of this arc, but it seems we may have to wait for the next arc. If it remains unexplained, then it will be quite the problem. |
| "Let Justice Be Done!" My Theme Fight again, fight again for justice! |
| Since the arc is ending next episode, people are worried it'll be rushed but if I recall correctly the ending of this arc extends into the beginning of the next arc o-o. Anyway good episode, getting tissues ready for the next few episodes T~T.... |
| This entire episode was basically a psychological battle between three people. Incredible. Who knew it could be so intense. Pouf animated with roses made me laugh. One thing: It bothers me that some Chimera Ants wear clothes, when they don't (technically) need to. |
The_Bif said: However, it hasn't changed my opinion of the character. And this is where I have trouble putting my thoughts into words here. I hate the character. I haven't been all that impressed by this arc in general, but I really just cannot stand the King and think that such excellent character development has been wasted on him. It's hard to explain why I hate him so much, both his appearance and completely unnecessary amounts of power remind me of Cell from DBZ. I hate villains that are so stupid powerful like him, Cell, and Aizen where the final defeat of them just feels cheap and anti-climatic. Cell, no one could beat him. Not Goku, even after Cell self destructs and blows up King Kai's planet. Not Vegeta, Trunks, or even Gohan. Then we get some asspull where the one armed, near death, Gohan is aided by his dead father and beats him with a kamehameha. Aizen, no one could beat him. The absolute strongest characters in the entire series get beat by him over and over. Ichigo uses the most powerful attack possible, his final getsuga tenshou, and still doesn't kill him. Then we get some asspull that Urahara secretly hid a seal within his earlier kido attacks that would not activate until he took massive damage or some crap like that. Meruem has what could have been an epic fight with Netero, ruined FOR ME by the narration, somehow survives the most powerful nuke ever invented, is revived by consuming his guards, but yet is going to die anyway because that bomb that could not kill him at point blank range actually creates some kind poison that evolves and spreads and cannot be stopped. So maybe I managed to put it into words after all, cause that about sums it up. These are just my thoughts and opinions though, so I know most of you will disagree. I'm just glad this arc is finally ending. First that ending to the Cell saga isn't really an asspull. Gohan wasn't half dead and was stronger than Cell from the beginning. Gohan lacked the confidence and Goku being there was merely figurative, not litteral. Onto Mereum, he's not powerful for no reason. He's the product of multiple generations of breeding leading up to his incredible power. The narration, that's subjective even though there wasn't even that much in the Netero vs Mereum fight. But the King was going to die with bomb. If Youpi and pouf didn't offer their bodies he was pretty dead. This is nothing personal against you but I think you assume because he was realy powerful that he needed to be beaten in this grand way where really him dying a slow death ties in with the theme of the arc. Yeah he's strong but still a bug and not immortal. |
RedRoseFring said: But...it wasn't the most powerful nuke (which I think is worse). It is small budget and mass-produced. I was hoping for an explanation as to why it was not used earlier before the end of this arc, but it seems we may have to wait for the next arc. If it remains unexplained, then it will be quite the problem. You were already given an explanation. There was an agreement between countries to stop use and production of the Miniature Rose because of its devastating effects and its use by terrorists. However, some countries (mostly small dictatorship) still have hundreds of bombs stockpiled, so it is still a threat. Use of the rose was really a last resort for Netero (the full result of which may be explained in the next episode). |
kcaco said: keragamming said: It's confirm that the ant arc will end on episode 135. It seems like it will be rushed..... I guess we'll have to see how it ends, because I've a few questions that are bugging me about this arc. No chimera ant arc ends on episode 136. Election arc starts on 137 2 episodes feel abit slow i mean can Palm and Ikalgo(or anyone) even stop Mereum at this point? |
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Geinrendour said: Stop calling it poison, people. It's understandable that the author changed the name, but we all know it's radiation and I hope everybody knows its effects. Also, the "I won't die until I'm dead" thing is a reference of some sort? If it is, can anyone explain it to me? Next week it'll be beautiful. It's a reference to Gyro. In the episode, it is hinted that Welfin (Zaikahal) knew Gyro since childhood... But you could also take it as a human's unwillingness to die (also seen in ants who retain their human personalities and memories). Gyro's childhood demonstrates his (Gyro's) ability to survive. In the manga it was alluded that Gyro has a strong sense of identity. He was the King of NGL. Many soldiers of NGL believe Gyro to be the one and only leader, but this is amplified in Welfin (likely because he has a longer history with Gyro). |
RedRoseFring said: But...it wasn't the most powerful nuke (which I think is worse). It is small budget and mass-produced. I was hoping for an explanation as to why it was not used earlier before the end of this arc, but it seems we may have to wait for the next arc. If it remains unexplained, then it will be quite the problem. What DalPuri said. Netero stuck it in him to make sure that there was always a way to get rid of Meruem. Fighting Meruem was simply his own volition, it's been said that it's been years (decades) since Netero has had a challenge. I think you just need to pay more attention, or at least go back and refresh your memory on past happenings, so these "problems" will cease being a thing. |
bleachjoj said: First that ending to the Cell saga isn't really an asspull. Gohan wasn't half dead and was stronger than Cell from the beginning. Gohan lacked the confidence and Goku being there was merely figurative, not litteral. Onto Mereum, he's not powerful for no reason. He's the product of multiple generations of breeding leading up to his incredible power. The narration, that's subjective even though there wasn't even that much in the Netero vs Mereum fight. But the King was going to die with bomb. If Youpi and pouf didn't offer their bodies he was pretty dead. This is nothing personal against you but I think you assume because he was realy powerful that he needed to be beaten in this grand way where really him dying a slow death ties in with the theme of the arc. Yeah he's strong but still a bug and not immortal. Well put. It's funny, because Meruem and Cell do look a fair amount of like; I even found myself comparing the two now and then. Hell, even the basis for their arcs are similar through their evolution (granted HxH's is clearly much more in-depth). I agree with bleachjoj, it wasn't an asspull at all. You have to think when Netero spoke of humanity's seemingly endless malice that we would be seeing the low that they'd go to defeat the ants. As soon as a bomb was introduced and Meruem survived it, it was pretty obvious that radiation would play a factor. Especially in a show like HxH where nothing is as simple as it seems. When Meruem survived the Rose, it wasn't to show that he was ridiculously powerful, but rather to emphasize both the depth of his Royal Guard's' loyalty and how savage the human race truly was. It already established throughout the entirety of the arc that as chimera ants feed on other creatures, they gain the properties of said creatures. It only makes sense that the same would happen when he feeds on the most powerful chimera ants next to him. Physically, he's definitely more strong than he needs to be, but it was necessary to establish how significant the concept of losing to Komugi was to him. All of that power is useless when facing humanity's infinite potential (in turn establishing his own infinite potential). He's extremely strong, sure, but that strength isn't really used to fight with, it's to create fear. I was more scared of his mere presence in this episode than any showings of his strength as a fighter (I actually jumped when he turned away from Welfin). I think that's a much more powerful way of demonstrating his power rather than the more common plot device of simply killing off characters. |
| Felt this episode a bit dragged out also felt a bit let down by Welfin :( Though I did find it funny when he went bald. 4/5 |
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| weren't people ages ago saying Welfin wasn't important and they shouldn't be wasting time on him? still i really do love meruem as a character which makes me sad because i know the outcome of this. |
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| Glad to see Welfin played a huge part in the story in this episode. Going to be interesting to see how things play out now that the King knows the secret Pouf was trying to hide. |
katsu044 said: weren't people ages ago saying Welfin wasn't important and they shouldn't be wasting time on him? Yeah, I find that pretty funny. On top of that, the one who reminded Welfin of his loyalty to Gyro is Ikalgo, another character that was called "unimportant" to the story, and that's the reason why he got himself in this situation with Meruem in the first place. |
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SaSa-Zoldyck said: I'm probably the only one who thinks like this but I dislike how Meruem doesn't give a shit about his guards. Youpi died when he was trying to save Meruem's ass yet he sees Youpi's corpse and is like ''what ever''. Honestly they deserved a better leader. Episode was good, a few scenes had misplaced OST and bad transitions. Hope that they will give us a perfect episode next week. I felt the same way. I was thinking about how Youpi's death didn't phase him at all and he was still focused on playing the game. Maybe since they were one now, he felt as if a piece of him was still apart of him? I'd hope at least. The guards were so devoted to him. While he is a lot more kinder, Komugi seems to be the only one he gives any shits about. |
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