| West tried it once, and now we have scooby doo |
FragOutFire said: Why am I a Berserk fan? All I ever experience is pain. We are in the eclipse and Miura has sacrificed us |
| They tried and the result were awful Cartoons. |
There's no such thing as a painless lesson. They just don't exist. Sacrifices are necessary. You can't gain anything without losing something first. Although if you can endure that pain and walk away from it, you'll find that you now have a heart strong enough to overcome any obstacle. Yeah, a heart made fullmetal. - Fullmetal Alchemist |
Battlechili1 said: Complete bullshit No, battlechili, you can't call Anime, Anime by art style. You're also thinking only Anime has certain stories, which kind of says how ignorant you are. Here's an example of why: http://myanimelist.net/anime/966/Crayon_Shin-chan |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| http://1-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/a/image/1333/81/1333819960753.jpg The art style argument isnt very strong since art styles in anime are super varied. :v |
| The Art of Eight |
 Would he be American? It doesn't matter how similar it looks, if it wasn't made in Japan it isn't anime. |
Rakaxo said: :0French people do it all the time and they fail. Not weird they did loss ww2. Fucking Cheese-eating surrender monkeys. Say what biotch? Shit's reported for racism. Also we did do Oban Star Racers, after all. And the same production studio's working on another new project: |
| Proud founder of The Official Anti-Ging Freecss Fan Club Join now! Kellhus said: GuusWayne said: there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat. |
| Awhile ago, Iraq(?) err.. somewhere in the middle east.. (very sorry for no clarification of the country) attempted to make one. It probably has been released already. Rakaxo said: French people do it all the time and they fail. Not weird they did loss ww2. Fucking Cheese-eating surrender monkeys. PFFFFFFFFFFFFFF--- Code Lyoko wasn't a fail. The live action was however... but the anime itself was decent. I remember that being my favorite show as a kid. |
| Chinese cartoons over all. |
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| Sapew didn't check the staff of those and the companies. A whole lot of all that is of Japanese production. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
kami_desu said: Chinese cartoons over all. Looks good, but looks as if some American had made this. |
KiteTheAzureJun 15, 2014 7:02 AM
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| I always saw things like Avatar, RWBY and Wakfu as cartoons with anime influence. One show I listed tries too hard to be an anime though, guess which one it is? Edit: On another note would people call Panty and Stocking a cartoon? It looks like one, but people still call it an anime. Can't Avatar be classed as anime? people could debate about this for ages. it's like subs vs wubba lubba dub dubs. |
| The level of close mindedness is overwhelming in this thread. I am a long-term MAL member, but first time lurker; is MAL community usually like this? I believe many people should know: Japanese for animation is anime which encompasses any sort of animated productions. So in Japan, even foreign cartoons are considered anime such as Spongebob Squarepants, Avatar: The Last Airbender, and The Legend of Korra. However, the Japanese-anime enthusiast in the Western culture have morphed the connotation that anime is to be purely Japanese animation. Technically, other countries do create anime! It is an animated production native to their own countries. Many animators would say is that a cartoon is anime-influenced or anime-style just to not piss off the "purists." Many posts have provided fantastic examples of such animations from countries outside of Japan. Those who quickly dismissed cartoons simply because they are not from Japan, are absolutely close-minded. Foreign animation is just as fantastic as Japanese-anime. We all know Japanese-anime to have intricate plots and in-depth character development that have a wide audience of all ages. Japanese-anime generally differentiates itself from cartoons "purely aimed for children for quick-entertainment," right? Well, you might not have dwell deep enough into animation to give such a judgement! I believe different countries, especially America have attempted to push boundaries that animation is not just for children. I really believe my point strengthens with The Legend of Korra. I feel The Legend of Korra is one of the leading animations that has such an intricate plot that carries very similar themes to Japanese-animes such a strong lead character with a group of friends fighting for a greater cause. Themes of politics, corruption, and family ties often lies in the plot. I really hope you give the music pieces in the show a listen, it is pretty well done! Some episodes are gorgeously animated! Really, non-Japanese animation should not hold such a negative reputation. If people believe that any animation done outside of Japan should not be called anime, then you might reconsider that many of recent "Japanese-anime" are not fully produced domestically in their respected country. They often outsource their animation crew to South Korea, China (who has been accused of infringement using the resources provided to them), and any other countries willing to produce en masse for cheap. You can do further research for yourself if you do not believe me. If you disagree with me, just remember that the connotation for anime is subjective. Sapewloth said: And the same production studio's working on another new project: That looks fantastic! |
Immahnoob said: Sapew didn't check the staff of those and the companies. A whole lot of all that is of Japanese production. I do know that Sav! employs japanese animators as well as european ones, and that they worked in co-op with the likes of Bandai (on Oban Stars for eg.). The fact remains that the studio itself is French, and that both projects were initially launched by that company. |
SapewlothJun 15, 2014 7:54 AM
| Proud founder of The Official Anti-Ging Freecss Fan Club Join now! Kellhus said: GuusWayne said: there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat. |
| Forgiven, nobody cares what the Japanese think of the term honestly. They call every piece of work "cartoons" in the end, which means they're not making a difference. We are making a difference though. So yeah. Sapew, check the other company, dolt. Hal Film Maker. Check what they made. And check the staff of your example. They're all Japanese. They only worked together but in the end it is a Japanese production. Who cares who started a project. It's who continued it and ended it that matters, the French company took the idea from the Japanese guy and only made the 3D part. |
ImmahnoobJun 15, 2014 8:05 AM
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| Not all japanese anime is produced in japan. Naruto for instance, is animated in south korea. |
| The word anime is a Japanese cognate derived from the English word animation. Japanese use the word anime to describe any form of animation, from hand-drawn to CGI. As Westerners, we possess a different meaning of that word, which means any form of animation associated with Japan, just for the sake of classification. Anime is any form of animation that has a large or obvious association with Japan, i.e. it's original language is Japanese, it's main market is Japan, it plays on Japanese television, etc. Anime has nothing to do with "better art" or "DEEP storylines." That's all a bunch of bullshit from people who take anime too seriously. Certainly, most anime have a certain style or trend they follow in terms of artwork, but look at something like Inferno Cop (http://myanimelist.net/anime/16774/Inferno_Cop/). It isn't considered anime because of it's distinct artwork or thought-provoking plot. It's considered anime because it's fucking Japanese. JD2411 said: Funny reversal on Ken-sama, but that Japanese cowboy wouldn't stand out so much where I live. If I saw someone like him walking around my town, I'd just assume he was one of the local Japanese farmers. |
Lambda_DeltaJun 15, 2014 3:27 PM
| All other countries that animate stuff are trying to rip off Japan of course. |
| Forgot if i linked this before since this thread is old Korean but in the mal database http://myanimelist.net/anime/548/Wonderful_Days Havent seen it yet though. I would like to see more high quality traditional animation out i the world but animators seem to be getting lazier all the time. |
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| yeah, but japan pretty much has a monopoly on loli and moe |
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| Some American companies make anime knock offs, such as Teen Titan, Totally Spies and Martin Mystery. |
| Here is my Pixiv account of my hentai drawings..... https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/104739065 Here is my blog.... https://theendofindustrialcivilization.blogspot.com/?m=1 |
| I heard France produced an animation about a time traveler trying to kill everyone in the world to save it. It's made in the style of Japanese animation. |
| Anime = cartoon Yes, the entire world makes anime, |
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| A different country can't create anime because anime (At least the definition I use, and everyone seems to agree) is basically animation that comes from Japan. |
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In 2005 Spanish producers decided to make a film in the "anime style" to advertise Spain in the Expo hosted in Aichi. The result is probably the most embarrassing attempt at a full-length animation I've watched so far. They were so focused with thinking of lame Japanese-looking names for the characters and inserting stupid references to Spanish products and cultural elements that they forgot about story, internal coherence, character development and just about any technical aspect. Gisaku, ladies and gentlemen. |
MechaKiryu said: Anime = cartoon Yes, the entire world makes anime, Can you show me some of North Korea's anime? |
| China, Taiwan, South Korea, Italy, and France all make anime to some extent. Some cartoons made in the US are meant to imitate anime, but I don't really consider them to be anime. |
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TheBrainintheJar said: Japan seems to disagree with your definition.Anime refers to any type of animation, regardless of it's country of origin.A different country can't create anime because anime (At least the definition I use, and everyone seems to agree) is basically animation that comes from Japan. J-Dawg2 said: You're arguing against the definition of the word here... Like I said above, anime = all animation. There's no such thing as not feeling like an anime because it's all anime. Also, NOT all Japanese cartoons have the same art styles. They're different from each other. The way I see it, where it is made doesn't matter to me. If it has the style of an anime, it's an anime. Locking it to a specific place seems unnecessary and narrow minded to me. At the same time, just because an animation was made in japan doesn't make it an anime automatically in my eyes. I would call "The Legend of Korra" an anime because it has the qualities that I've always enjoyed from anime, despite it's american origins, but I wouldn't call "Gregory Horror Show" an anime because it doesn't feel like one at all even though it's japanese. Again, this is just my opinion. maybe I'm the only one who feels this way, but the idea that anime can't be made in other parts of the world has always felt has always felt a little (for lack of a better word) Weeabooish to me. (Yes I know I'm a little late, but I wanted my first forum post here to have to do with a topic I feel strongly about.) EXAMPLE As you can see, they're not all the same. Why is this even a debate? |
MechaKiryuAug 20, 2015 1:15 PM
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PriestSlayer said: West tried it once, and now we have scooby doo What's new Scooby Doo was actually animated kind of in an anime style |
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| i can only think of US |
| Korea-yet Korean anime is just weird, (ie Coffee Samurai), because Korean people are just weird, really, really weird. |
| So in other words, do other countries make cartoons? |
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lupadim said: West can't produce anime. |
Psycaloria said: Yes, they can.lupadim said: West can't produce anime. |
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carlbrooks said: Sloth_ said: I heard they were thinking about outsourcing production to Taiwan .... Outsourcing was the word I was thinking of. That was what I was trying to portray, can Anime be created by other countries through outsourcing. tl;tr look it up. you have any idea how much is outsourced to countries like south Korea? |
MechaKiryu said: Psycaloria said: Yes, they can.an·i·me ˈanəˌmā/ noun a style of Japanese film and television animation, typically aimed at adults as well as children. Most definitions of Anime require it be "Japanese". In the West we call them Cartoons, and people seem to draw a very distinct line between the two. Hence why series like Avatar are not anime. Too be quite honest though, couldn't care less. |
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Neo716 said: No, it isn't. Anime is exclusively Japanese, so no. Pirating_Ninja said: Once again, anime can't refer to a style because they ( the art styles in Japanese cartoons ) vary from series to series. MechaKiryu said: Yes, they can. an·i·me ˈanəˌmā/ noun a style of Japanese film and television animation, typically aimed at adults as well as children. Most definitions of Anime require it be "Japanese". In the West we call them Cartoons, and people seem to draw a very distinct line between the two. Hence why series like Avatar are not anime. Too be quite honest though, couldn't care less. MechaKiryu said: EXAMPLE As you can see, they're not all the same. >Types the definition posted into Google >First Link: Oxford dictionary No surprise that Oxford messed up the definition of an another word. It's just as bad as the Urban Dictionary. |
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| Of course and they are quite successful. The American anime Frozen defeated all the Japanese anime in the 2015 Tokyo Anime Awards, the Irish anime Song of the Sea won the grand prize in the feature film category and the classical American anime Tom and Jerry placed 58 on Tv Asahi's top 100 anime list. The British anime Shaun the Sheep when airing makes higher tv ratings than the favs of most people on this site. http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-03-22/frozen-ping-pong-tiger-and-bunny-win-at-tokyo-anime-award-festival/.86272 http://filmireland.net/2015/03/25/song-of-the-sea-wins-at-tokyo-anime-award-festival/ http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2005-09-23/tv-asahi-top-100-anime |
DrGeroCreationAug 20, 2015 9:44 PM
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| even if they make it or have already made it they can't match the japanese |
DrGeroCreation said: Thanks. This'll be my ammunition for the next time I argue with weeaboos. Anyway... Of course and they are quite successful. The American anime Frozen defeated all the Japanese anime in the 2015 Tokyo Anime Awards, the Irish anime Song of the Sea won the grand price in the feature film category and the classical American anime Tom and Jerry placed 58 on Tv Asahi's top 100 anime list. The British anime Shaun the Sheep when airing makes higher tv ratings than the favs of most people on this site. http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-03-22/frozen-ping-pong-tiger-and-bunny-win-at-tokyo-anime-award-festival/.86272 http://filmireland.net/2015/03/25/song-of-the-sea-wins-at-tokyo-anime-award-festival/ http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2005-09-23/tv-asahi-top-100-anime /thread |
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Pain-5567 said: Lol DC superhero anime alone is better than Japanese anime. No long drawn out filler arcs (no filler arcs actually), no moe shit, no sexualized lolis,no pussy mc, no gary stu mc (Superman is only overpowered in the comics in the cartoons he has multiple weaknesses), no predominant highschool setting.even if they make it or have already made it they can't match the japanese MechaKiryu said: You're welcome.] Thanks. This'll be my ammunition for the next time I argue with weeaboos. Anyway... /thread |
DrGeroCreationAug 20, 2015 9:52 PM
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DrGeroCreation said: Lol DC superhero anime alone is better than Japanese anime. No long drawn out filler arcs (no filler arcs actually), no moe shit, no sexualized lolis,no pussy mc, no gary stu mc (Superman is only overpowered in the comics in the cartoons he has multiple weaknesses), no predominant highschool setting. i was talking about "ANIME". superman is a comic character/cartoon. i was saying that if western people try to imitate japanese style Anime they won't be much successful. anyways it's just my opinion |
Pain-5567 said: Anime= cartoon, cartoon= anime in Japan. Avatar , Martin Mystery,Wakfu, Jackie chan Adventures are as good as typical battle shonen anime. Also there is no style for anime. Anime and western cartoons can be drawn in a multitude of different artstyles.DrGeroCreation said: Lol DC superhero anime alone is better than Japanese anime. No long drawn out filler arcs (no filler arcs actually), no moe shit, no sexualized lolis,no pussy mc, no gary stu mc (Superman is only overpowered in the comics in the cartoons he has multiple weaknesses), no predominant highschool setting. i was talking about "ANIME". superman is a comic character/cartoon. i was saying that if western people try to imitate japanese style Anime they won't be much successful. anyways it's just my opinion |
DrGeroCreationAug 20, 2015 10:05 PM
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Pain-5567 said: Have you even read anything posted on this thread?DrGeroCreation said: Lol DC superhero anime alone is better than Japanese anime. No long drawn out filler arcs (no filler arcs actually), no moe shit, no sexualized lolis,no pussy mc, no gary stu mc (Superman is only overpowered in the comics in the cartoons he has multiple weaknesses), no predominant highschool setting. i was talking about "ANIME". superman is a comic character/cartoon. i was saying that if western people try to imitate japanese style Anime they won't be much successful. anyways it's just my opinion |
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DrGeroCreation said: Anime= cartoon, cartoon= anime in Japan. Avatar , Martin Mystery,Wakfu, Jackie chan Adventures are as good as typical battle shonen anime. Also there is no style for anime. Anime and western cartoons can be drawn in a multitude of different artstyles. no. cartoons can be drawn of any shapes like phineas and ferb, sponge bob and they can also be of human style but on the other hand Anime is specifically human style there is a big difference! |
Pain-5567 said: Lol noDrGeroCreation said: Anime= cartoon, cartoon= anime in Japan. Avatar , Martin Mystery,Wakfu, Jackie chan Adventures are as good as typical battle shonen anime. Also there is no style for anime. Anime and western cartoons can be drawn in a multitude of different artstyles. no. cartoons can be drawn of any shapes like phineas and ferb, sponge bob and they can also be of human style but on the other hand Anime is specifically human style there is a big difference!  |
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