Ulquiorra1923 said: the original is always better. no this is wrong something being the original does not make it better |
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DrGeroCreation said: Ulquiorra1923 said: You should make an exception for Bebop it's not like other dubs.DrGeroCreation said: Ulquiorra1923 said: It's great in English and to me sounds more natural in English than Japanese.DrGeroCreation said: Ulquiorra1923 said: Cowboy Bebop's dub though. I actually would recommend to a Japanese anime fan who has never seen Bebop to watch it dubbed with Japanese subs than watch the Japanese version.Because dubs suck, that's the only reason. Never. When I will Cowboy Bebop I will watch it with English subs. I know I've seen a few episodes on TV a long time ago, will watch it in the future. I never watch any dubbed anime, I've seen Dragon Ball English and Spanish dubbed on TV, but I didn't like it. No thanks, I've heard there are ''good'' dubbed versions for a lot of anime out there, but unfortunately I will never watch them. |
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AstronomyDomine said: It's fine to have a preference, but this uncontrolled hate towards english dubs is utterly unexplainable. I also prefer to watch anime in the original audio, but disregarding every single dub ever released is too harshly extreme. C'mon, you may not like it, but you can't classify dubs such as Cowboy Bebop, Monster, Gurren Lagann, Tenchi Muyo, FMA as 'bad' dubs I kind of think this "sub elitism" is a problem that's somewhat exclusive to MAL. I mean, go on any other regular message boards, especially those that do not exclusively discuss anime, and you'll find many more open-minded opinions. |
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DrGeroCreation said: Bebop's dub is average at bestYou should make an exception for Bebop it's not like other dubs. the best dub ever belongs to Wolf's Rain |
JD2411 said: MajinSaga said: I speak 4 languages and have been exposed to media from all corners of the globe. Without a doubt the worst acting is performed by Americans.As a film enthusiast, I've seen a lot of films and various forms of media from many different countries and many different languages. Without knowing the languages I can tell what good or bad acting is. And Japanese voice actors aren't as good as people really believe they are. There's a difference between expressing genuine emotions and over acting them. And "seiyuus" are constantly over acting and forcing emotions. Screaming, grunting, and making whiny noises does not automatically make for genuine emotional acting. Someone is butthurt over all the academy awards Americs has. |
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rederoin said: mattbenz99 said: well you have to know english to be able to understand the english subtitles or it wont make a difference and although some people in english speaking countries do speak english that majority of them wouldnt. I live in a non-engelish speaking country and the majority knows how to read English. But looks like this will be yet another thread filled with you failing to defend dubs. no you just ignored the entire point of my post. how many people in your country actually watch anime? not many and those that do watch it usually watch some random dub |
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MajinSaga said: That's just your opinionSomeone is butthurt over all the academy awards Americs has. |
rederoin said: mattbenz99 said: Ulquiorra1923 said: the original is always better. no this is wrong something being the original does not make it better In your opinion* lol you dub haters always say that because when i like something it is my opinion but when you like something it is fact |
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| Here are a few of the best anime in Dub Trigun Black Lagoon Ghost In The Shell Darker Than Black Brotherhood Bebop Baccano Code Geass Samurai Champloo etc.. |
| dubs hire shit tier voice actors who couldn't land a role in a western cartoon subs use a-list goddesses in comparison |
mattbenz99 said: rederoin said: mattbenz99 said: Ulquiorra1923 said: the original is always better. no this is wrong something being the original does not make it better In your opinion* lol you dub haters always say that because when i like something it is my opinion but when you like something it is fact I don't hate dubs. I also never stated my opinion as a fact, unlike you. |
| So yea alot of the best is in Dub but there are also damn good sub as well |
rederoin said: mattbenz99 said: rederoin said: mattbenz99 said: well you have to know english to be able to understand the english subtitles or it wont make a difference and although some people in english speaking countries do speak english that majority of them wouldnt. I live in a non-engelish speaking country and the majority knows how to read English. But looks like this will be yet another thread filled with you failing to defend dubs. no you just ignored the entire point of my post. how many people in your country actually watch anime? not many and those that do watch it usually watch some random dub You can't just post random 'facts' and expect me to belief it. Post some proof of your statements. You don't even know how many people live in my country, so why do think you know how many of them watch dubs? according to your account you live in the netherlands so if i am not mistaken there is about 16 million people there. also i never said it was a fact that is my educated guess. |
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JD2411 said: As you would say that's just your opinion.DrGeroCreation said: Bebop's dub is average at bestYou should make an exception for Bebop it's not like other dubs. the best dub ever belongs to Wolf's Rain |
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migohunter said: AstronomyDomine said: It's fine to have a preference, but this uncontrolled hate towards english dubs is utterly unexplainable. I also prefer to watch anime in the original audio, but disregarding every single dub ever released is too harshly extreme. C'mon, you may not like it, but you can't classify dubs such as Cowboy Bebop, Monster, Gurren Lagann, Tenchi Muyo, FMA as 'bad' dubs I kind of think this "sub elitism" is a problem that's somewhat exclusive to MAL. I mean, go on any other regular message boards, especially those that do not exclusively discuss anime, and you'll find many more open-minded opinions. Perhaps. I've got many acquaintances that hate everything that's not in the original audio and they don't even visit here. Mentioning dubs's like wanting to torture them. I think MAL only exposes this 'issue' more. As i said, preferences are ok, but hatred is not exactly explainable =/ |
| Here are a few of the best anime in Dub Trigun Black Lagoon Ghost In The Shell Darker Than Black Brotherhood Bebop Baccano Code Geass Samurai Champloo etc.. |
mattbenz99 said: rederoin said: mattbenz99 said: Ulquiorra1923 said: the original is always better. no this is wrong something being the original does not make it better In your opinion* lol you dub haters always say that because when i like something it is my opinion but when you like something it is fact In my opinion English dubs are inferior to English subs, nobody is making you say you're wrong or something. |
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| Don't get me wrong, those done-in-a-bathroom dubs are crap, and most of the time dubs have to miss translation to fit the mouth of the character. But, damn, come on guys? It really isn't that bad, some of them. |
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svpejQ1I7Z0 ^^^This is all of you people t(^-^t) |
| Because they sound so damn childish to me for some reason. I prefer the feel of a foreign movie. That way I if the script is sub par I can just get the 'gist' of what they're saying and quickly mentally translate something better in my head. |
| Both are damn good just that the Dub holds the high rank at the time most of the time but Sub is damn good |
| im not wrong that's for sure |
| Which ever one sounds better i will watch |
| That triple post though |
| Lol, just say it in one post.l |
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| Everyone was slipping by me i would like people to read what i must say i think it makes the most sense of this all |
rederoin said: mattbenz99 said: rederoin said: mattbenz99 said: Ulquiorra1923 said: the original is always better. no this is wrong something being the original does not make it better In your opinion* lol you dub haters always say that because when i like something it is my opinion but when you like something it is fact I don't hate dubs. I also never stated my opinion as a fact, unlike you. when did i state something as a fact? i sated things as opinions and educated guesses never facts |
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AstronomyDomine said: migohunter said: AstronomyDomine said: It's fine to have a preference, but this uncontrolled hate towards english dubs is utterly unexplainable. I also prefer to watch anime in the original audio, but disregarding every single dub ever released is too harshly extreme. C'mon, you may not like it, but you can't classify dubs such as Cowboy Bebop, Monster, Gurren Lagann, Tenchi Muyo, FMA as 'bad' dubs I kind of think this "sub elitism" is a problem that's somewhat exclusive to MAL. I mean, go on any other regular message boards, especially those that do not exclusively discuss anime, and you'll find many more open-minded opinions. Perhaps. I've got many acquaintances that hate everything that's not in the original audio and they don't even visit here. Mentioning dubs's like wanting to torture them. I think MAL only exposes this 'issue' more. As i said, preferences are ok, but hatred is not exactly explainable =/ Yup, don't understand the hate either. Some "sub elitists" react to dubs as if they destroy their way of life or something. Oh well. |
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| because they are usually inferior, feel un-natural in an anime environment (which is usually japanese) and always come with this corny sound to them. American dubs for example really annoy me because they really sound too american. British dubs are much better but still don't fit always. None English dubs are rarely as good as the english dubs and thus just fail by being bad. And japanese dubs are just how the anime was made to be. This is the original language it was made it. |
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a_puffy_vulva said: dubs hire shit tier voice actors who couldn't land a role in a western cartoon subs use a-list goddesses in comparison You don't have an opinion on this? o.O This is 1000% fact. I guess you need to ignore facts and simply argue opinions when you know you're wrong. |
| Subs and subs are both damn good just depends which version is better for which anime Sub is not good for Black Lagoon or Bebop but its damn good for Steins Gate and Monster to his her own |
Orsonius said: because they are usually inferior, feel un-natural in an anime environment (which is usually japanese) and always come with this corny sound to them. American dubs for example really annoy me because they really sound too american. British dubs are much better but still don't fit always. None English dubs are rarely as good as the english dubs and thus just fail by being bad. And japanese dubs are just how the anime was made to be. This is the original language it was made it. so by your logic shows taking place outside japan or that involves english characters are better dubbed? |
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Orsonius said: because they are usually inferior, feel un-natural in an anime environment (which is usually japanese) and always come with this corny sound to them. American dubs for example really annoy me because they really sound too american. British dubs are much better but still don't fit always. None English dubs are rarely as good as the english dubs and thus just fail by being bad. And japanese dubs are just how the anime was made to be. This is the original language it was made it. +1 |
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| An anime is not made to be in sub or dub if it sucks sub wise compared to the dub then tough luck that's how it is or the other way around they are both good it's just what happens i wonder why people make such a big fuss about this |
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migohunter said: AstronomyDomine said: migohunter said: AstronomyDomine said: It's fine to have a preference, but this uncontrolled hate towards english dubs is utterly unexplainable. I also prefer to watch anime in the original audio, but disregarding every single dub ever released is too harshly extreme. C'mon, you may not like it, but you can't classify dubs such as Cowboy Bebop, Monster, Gurren Lagann, Tenchi Muyo, FMA as 'bad' dubs I kind of think this "sub elitism" is a problem that's somewhat exclusive to MAL. I mean, go on any other regular message boards, especially those that do not exclusively discuss anime, and you'll find many more open-minded opinions. Perhaps. I've got many acquaintances that hate everything that's not in the original audio and they don't even visit here. Mentioning dubs's like wanting to torture them. I think MAL only exposes this 'issue' more. As i said, preferences are ok, but hatred is not exactly explainable =/ Yup, don't understand the hate either. Some "sub elitists" react to dubs as if they destroy their way of life or something. Oh well. I say, watch what you prefer and don't act like a horrendous freak. I prefer subs most of the time, but I do watch dubs if I feel like it. |
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| Which ever one has the better version just watch that one who cares if sub only or not just watch what's best it's really not a big deal |
| Funny & ironic thing is Japanese people watch dubs themselves. They wait three to six months for a movie that's released everywhere else to be dubbed in Japanese. Lord of the rings, Harry potter, Disney and Pixar movies, Avengers, Dark Knigt, etc. have all been dubbed in Japanese because the Japanese movie watchers don't wanna read and prefer to watch it in their own language. Frozen isn't even in Japan yet. Fucking lazy japs need to wath Disney movies in their ORIGINAL language. |
Dubs>subs. Breaking Bad>Anime Comic books>manga 99% of Anime is Garbage |
MajinSaga said: Funny & ironic thing is Japanese people watch dubs themselves. They wait three to six months for a movie that's released everywhere else to be dubbed in Japanese. Lord of the rings, Harry potter, Disney and Pixar movies, Avengers, Dark Knigt, etc. have all been dubbed in Japanese because the Japanese movie watchers don't wanna read and prefer to watch it in their own language. Frozen isn't even in Japan yet. Fucking lazy japs need to wath Disney movies in their ORIGINAL language. I don't even know why would they even watch Disney movies, it's a waste of time, and they need to dub them because the only ones who watch them are all under 10 years old and not many of them know English . |
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Orsonius said: Goku's English and Spanish (Latin American) voices are FAR SUPERIOR to his high pitched screechy Japanese voice.because they are usually inferior, feel un-natural in an anime environment (which is usually japanese) and always come with this corny sound to them. American dubs for example really annoy me because they really sound too american. British dubs are much better but still don't fit always. None English dubs are rarely as good as the english dubs and thus just fail by being bad. And japanese dubs are just how the anime was made to be. This is the original language it was made it. Japanese Goku the screeching cat prepares to fight Vegeta http://youtu.be/9lRREo70nrs |
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Ulquiorra1923 said: MajinSaga said: Funny & ironic thing is Japanese people watch dubs themselves. They wait three to six months for a movie that's released everywhere else to be dubbed in Japanese. Lord of the rings, Harry potter, Disney and Pixar movies, Avengers, Dark Knigt, etc. have all been dubbed in Japanese because the Japanese movie watchers don't wanna read and prefer to watch it in their own language. Frozen isn't even in Japan yet. Fucking lazy japs need to wath Disney movies in their ORIGINAL language. I don't even know why would they even watch Disney movies, it's a waste of time, and they need to dub them because the only ones who watch them are all under 10 years old and not many of them know English . Dude...subtitles....most people can read by 10. It's also a disney movie so the text won't be too complicated |
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Orsonius said: And japanese dubs are just how the anime was made to be. This is the original language it was made it. By this criterion one should only watch Monster in German |
Ulquiorra1923 said: MajinSaga said: Funny & ironic thing is Japanese people watch dubs themselves. They wait three to six months for a movie that's released everywhere else to be dubbed in Japanese. Lord of the rings, Harry potter, Disney and Pixar movies, Avengers, Dark Knigt, etc. have all been dubbed in Japanese because the Japanese movie watchers don't wanna read and prefer to watch it in their own language. Frozen isn't even in Japan yet. Fucking lazy japs need to wath Disney movies in their ORIGINAL language. I don't even know why would they even watch Disney movies, it's a waste of time, and they need to dub them because the only ones who watch them are all under 10 years old and not many of them know English . Wow talk about double standards. Westerners watch dubs = stupid. Japanese watch dubs = understandable. Also Disney movies are usually better than most anime, that's why they watch them. |
Dubs>subs. Breaking Bad>Anime Comic books>manga 99% of Anime is Garbage |
mattbenz99 said: Orsonius said: because they are usually inferior, feel un-natural in an anime environment (which is usually japanese) and always come with this corny sound to them. American dubs for example really annoy me because they really sound too american. British dubs are much better but still don't fit always. None English dubs are rarely as good as the english dubs and thus just fail by being bad. And japanese dubs are just how the anime was made to be. This is the original language it was made it. so by your logic shows taking place outside japan or that involves english characters are better dubbed? I watched Baccano dubbed and the only reason I regret it is because whenever I wanna see who that once VA was in besides that one anime I am watching atm and see "oh Baccano that's where I know him/her from... wait not I watched that in english dub..." Besides that I thought it was very fitting. And some anime have a really good dub don't get me wrong, but it never feels as real as the original cast. Some anime actually have original dubs that I don't like, like One Piece and DBZ. But overall I don't like to listen to english when I watch anime. I already read english when I watch it, why would I wanna hear it? I can hear english whenever I watch a british or american movie. Also my second point would be. Getting used to Dubs. My friend doesn't wanna watch a lot of anime because he got used to dubs so much that he doesn't wanna read while watching an anime (mostly because he wants to do other things meanwhile which I think is already stupid, concentrate on the show!). So those people will miss out on a lot of anime. It also takes time to get used to japanese and japanese VA. My first time watching an anime in full Japanese cracked me up. The girls voices were so high pitched I wasn't used it. (which was higurashi back in 2007 btw) So overall dubs make you get used to it. Not everyone speaks english as a first language and thus doesn't need an english dub to begin with. Some people are fans of japanese VA and want to hear them in their shows so pass on english voice actors. |
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Ulquiorra1923 said: I don't even know why would they even watch Disney movies, it's a waste of time. I don't even know what to say anymore. |
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MajinSaga said: Ulquiorra1923 said: MajinSaga said: Funny & ironic thing is Japanese people watch dubs themselves. They wait three to six months for a movie that's released everywhere else to be dubbed in Japanese. Lord of the rings, Harry potter, Disney and Pixar movies, Avengers, Dark Knigt, etc. have all been dubbed in Japanese because the Japanese movie watchers don't wanna read and prefer to watch it in their own language. Frozen isn't even in Japan yet. Fucking lazy japs need to wath Disney movies in their ORIGINAL language. I don't even know why would they even watch Disney movies, it's a waste of time, and they need to dub them because the only ones who watch them are all under 10 years old and not many of them know English . Wow talk about double standards. Westerners watch dubs = stupid. Japanese watch dubs = understandable. Also Disney movies are usually better than most anime, that's why they watch them. Lol, very funny. Disney is 100 years behind with everything compared to most of the anime out there. |
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Cupquake said: Ulquiorra1923 said: MajinSaga said: Funny & ironic thing is Japanese people watch dubs themselves. They wait three to six months for a movie that's released everywhere else to be dubbed in Japanese. Lord of the rings, Harry potter, Disney and Pixar movies, Avengers, Dark Knigt, etc. have all been dubbed in Japanese because the Japanese movie watchers don't wanna read and prefer to watch it in their own language. Frozen isn't even in Japan yet. Fucking lazy japs need to wath Disney movies in their ORIGINAL language. I don't even know why would they even watch Disney movies, it's a waste of time, and they need to dub them because the only ones who watch them are all under 10 years old and not many of them know English . Dude...subtitles....most people can read by 10. It's also a disney movie so the text won't be too complicated Yet they still American movies into Japanese. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb1ZODfKav8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLdIH9HOYWQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYquw2zk9Ao http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eD_hgdMDokg |
Dubs>subs. Breaking Bad>Anime Comic books>manga 99% of Anime is Garbage |
AstronomyDomine said: Orsonius said: And japanese dubs are just how the anime was made to be. This is the original language it was made it. By this criterion one should only watch Monster in German A) I could do that because I am German. B) It wasn't made in German it just PLAYS in Germany. It's still japanese animation and thus was made with japanese dub in mind. |
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