Hahalollawl said: Yeah, that's why the so called moe-haters are so amusing. It's like they don't like things they like. When someone throws his prejudices away he will realize there's nothing wrong with moe and will embrace the feeling.Wow, so it seems almost anything that makes you like it can be considered "moe"...I thought I was not particularly into moe things but if the definition is that broad then I guess everyone likes moe things... About watching shows for "intricate plot development"... anime is mostly visual medium, intricate plot development isn't the highest priority of most shows. Someone wanting that should look among books where it's actually physically possible to develop intricate plot thanks to their length. e: ah, okay. I just think we shouldn't trouble ourselves with going so far to avoid misunderstandings and if someone does get offended by something so petty, it would only means he's touchy as context obviously suggests that other KKK isn't involved and therefore should be ignored. Caring about such details is just a waste of time in my eyes but I have no intention of imposing my views on you. Just a friendly tip like the one you provided but from other perspective. Personally I'm indifferent toward use of "Jap". I'm aware it's a slur historically but it's just such a natural abbreviation... So many people use it without harmful intentions, I think it's about time (especially now, in Internet age, when we can interact with Japanese easily despite the distance and cultural differences) for it to lose its negative connotation. After all, what am I supposed to use? "Japanese" is too damn long, so is "sugoku kawaii Nihongo tomodachi-tachi" and apparently "Nip" is also offensive. I like using "Elevens" but realize why it's risky, so I only do it in few places where I'm sure everyone understands my intentions. |
ProgeuszNov 23, 2013 7:03 AM
| Its also annoying that its rather hard to tell what somebody means when they use the word 'moe' when talking about anime. Anyway, KKK's sales are a rather strange case, volume 1 sold 558, volume 2 sold 779 and now volume 3 is estimated at 1.5k(if DVD's rank, 1.2k without). So I think it'll end up selling around 900-1100~ copies. This is clearly a sign that that'll need to do a S2(A man can have a hopeless dream, right?) |
rederoinNov 23, 2013 7:17 AM
| I've read every other comments, but my thought was pretty much this, Hahalollawl said: Wow, so it seems almost anything that makes you like it can be considered "moe"...I thought I was not particularly into moe things but if the definition is that broad then I guess everyone likes moe things...By the way, are ojous considered moe? If so, I guess I do like moe stuff lol. So it seems like (almost) every cute characters out there are moe now.. lol.. The only difference is that one is heavier and another is lighter on the "moe" ~.~ rederoin said: Anyway, KKK's sales are a rather strange case, volume 1 sold 558, volume 2 sold 779 and now volume 3 is estimated at 1.5k(if DVD's rank, 1.2k without). So I think it'll end up selling around 900-1100~ copies. This is clearly a sign that that'll need to do a S2(A man can have a hopeless dream, right?) Not sure if I misunderstood you, but 1k sales don't warrant a sequel, right? I mean, isn't that amount way too low? |
ToG25thBaamNov 23, 2013 10:13 AM
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ToG25thBaam said: I've read every other comments, but my thought was pretty much this, Hahalollawl said: Wow, so it seems almost anything that makes you like it can be considered "moe"...I thought I was not particularly into moe things but if the definition is that broad then I guess everyone likes moe things...By the way, are ojous considered moe? If so, I guess I do like moe stuff lol. So it seems like (almost) every cute characters out there are moe now.. lol.. The only difference is that one is heavier and another is lighter on the "moe" ~.~ I think you're misunderstand what 'moe' actually means. Its a feeling you can have towards something. That something does not have to be cute to be moe. But you know, I suck at explaining things, so i'll just post this picture. http://i.imgur.com/1QQJ1uD.jpg |
rederoinNov 23, 2013 10:55 AM
Hahalollawl said: Wow, so it seems almost anything that makes you like it can be considered "moe"...I thought I was not particularly into moe things but if the definition is that broad then I guess everyone likes moe things...By the way, are ojous considered moe? If so, I guess I do like moe stuff lol. It's about one of the very few things that actually kind of works on me so of course I'm going to say yes. I think it's sort of an absurd mannerism thing and seeing the real personalities conflict with the larger than life one they present. That and despite being pampered for whatever reason they tend to be more self sufficient than a lot of other moe archetypes on average and are the character type that usually shows up biggest in the most unexpected situations. Example might be Kongou Mitsuko from Railgun who is typically a comic relief character until there's bad situation and then she's typically one of the first people to put herself at risk and join the fight. Its always interesting seeing your first impression of a character proven wrong too and Ojou characters tend to have this happen a lot. Its cool having a Moe archetype I can kind of appreciate on levels not directly linked to being Moe as well like say Satsuki Kiryuin from Kill La Kill. Talk about personality lol.... It took a long time for me to realize that many of my favorite female characters throughout the years could be considered Ojou and that I probably have a thing for the trope. Really it was last years Kuroyukihime and a few other characters that lead me to make the connection. Speaking of which looking at our lists I wonder if its a sci-fi mecha fan thing. A lot of people I bump into that enjoy that really enjoy that genre also seem to have a thing for Ojou characters though I think it also goes with the content, especially when it comes to Gundam which has a lot of them, especially 00 which had Marina, Louise and Wang Liu Me I who all took very different paths ans developments throughout the series. |
PeacingOutNov 23, 2013 11:22 AM
ToG25thBaam said: rederoin provides a good guide with the pic he posted but let me just add that: Almost every cute character has moe concept introduced in character design, but moe is not juts about cuteness and it may exist where you do not even notice (because you don't sense the moe element but yet it may be apparent and effective to other people). As rederoin said it is not about whether a character is cute or not, or whether a character has this personality or not, it is about the feeling generated in the watchers and the attempt to design and portray the characters in such a way that such feeling are more likely to be generated among the audience.So it seems like (almost) every cute characters out there are moe now.. lol.. The only difference is that one is heavier and another is lighter on the "moe" ~.~ |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
| I'm still baffled that people still believe that ''moe'' is a feeling that can be applied to literally anything. It painfully obvious what people mean when they say this character is ''moe'' or when they say I hate ''moe''. I'm just regard ''moe'' the same way Japan does in the context of anime/manga/LN. Which is cutesy characters, cutesy character traits, cutesy character archetypes and cutesy character designs and the feeling of the desire to protect an innocent cute girl or other feelings that make you go hnnnng. Moe is not as of a broad term as you people make it out to be. |
tsudecimoNov 23, 2013 10:08 PM
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tsudecimo said: The danger of using your definition is those "cutesy" words. One example is the ojou characters which surely are considered moe in Japan but I doubt such characters would be necessarily described as "cutesy" and "want to go hnnng" by most except perhaps for those people who feel moe about them. I'm just gonna define moe the same way Japan does which is cutesy characters, cutesy character traits, cutesy character archetypes and cutesy character designs and the feeling of the desire to protect an innocent cute girl or other feelings that make you go hnnnng. tsudecimo said: which is why your definition is a flawed one and the broad term is the one that is more relevant and fitting.Moe is not as of a broad term as you people make it out to be. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
| Realistically discussions like this aren't going to produce one definition that everyone everywhere will agree on. Everyone has their own definition and that's not going to change. That being said the word "moe" really isn't as confusing as it seems to be. When I see someone use it I usually have a pretty good idea what they mean even if I don't know how they personally define it. I mean it's not like I'm completely lost whenever someone uses it. |
Hahalollawl said: tsudecimo's "Japanese definition" is not really the Japanese definition, but more the casual narrow-based definition often seen in forums and cause problems in discussing the topic (the "cutesy" and "hnnngg" parts in particular). This narrow definition can also be found in Japanese forums but it is seen a lot more often in western forums. The definition is ok if you just want to use the term for a discussion about some of the most obviously moe topics like KyoAni character design, but it would fail and cause confusion if we move beyond it: for example if we want to talk about moe in anime, or relationship between moe and business (including disc sales). Once you move beyond those very limited topics like KyoAni design, it is the broad definition, one that is seen a lot more in Japanese forums than western forums, that makes sense and is needed.I suppose it's possible that a western viewer and Japanese viewer could have different definitions of moe, but I would think the definition that matters more is the Japanese one. Edit: Oh oops it looks like you disagree as to the Japanese definition. Never mind, disregard this post. |
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| It doesn't matter if they find them cute or not. The prefect example is tsunderes, some hate their guts and some love them and find them cute, they are still moe whether some people don't find them cute or not. And it's not my definition, that is the description of the characters that are considered moe in anime/manga/LN. When there is an otaku characters in any anime they explicitly say that this character is moe or this is moe. Characters like tsunderes, kuuderes, maids, anime characteristics (kemonomimis), lolis, nyan and other cute vocal tics, etc are all called moe inside anime. And they even prounce/ call it in English ( moe character) Moe characteristics exist and not everything can be regarded as ''moe'' by the majority. In the context of anime/manga/LN I think the term is not broad at all, I do agree that it can be broad as a whole and it doesn't have a concrete definition but in anime/manga/LN specifically it is really not. I think it's silly when some people pretend that they don't know what those moe haters mean when they hate moe. Not a lot of people are gonna call Zodd from Berserk a moe character. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moe_anthropomorphism Amiluhur said: That being said the word "moe" really isn't as confusing as it seems to be. When I see someone use it I usually have a pretty good idea what they mean even if I don't know how they personally define it. I mean it's not like I'm completely lost whenever someone uses it. That's my point. If someone says '' Moe is running the current anime industry for me '' or '' There is too much anime with moe in them these days'' I think you would have a basic idea about what they mean by that. |
tsudecimoNov 23, 2013 10:49 PM
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tsudecimo said: In this case, then your definition of "cutesy" traits etc does not really apply, does it? It doesn't matter if they find them cute or not. The prefect example is tsunderes, some hate their guts and some love them and find them cute, they are still moe whether some people don't find them cute or not. tsudecimo said: Defined by you, no? So it is still your definition. And it's not my definition, that is the description of the characters that are considered moe in anime/manga/LN. tsudecimo said: I agree that moe can be defined in anime/manga/LN but we need to do it carefully, otherwise we will see the case like the baffling comment "hey, I don't think Charlotte is moe, she is just cute". Moe characteristics exist and not everything can be regarded as ''moe'' by the majority. In the context of anime/manga/LN I think the term is not broad at all, I do agree that it can be broad as a whole and it doesn't have a concrete definition but in anime/manga/LN specifically it is really not. tsudecimo said: Not really, because moe haters can hate different things which they just label it as "moe'. You can give some extreme example like Berserk that is not likely to be considered moe; I can give some extreme example like Lucky Star that is likely to be considered moe by most. The question is what lies in the middle. And here confusion can reign, particularly when different moe haters may be hating different types of moe as defined by them. I can perfectly see some people saying things like "I hate moe, but I love Koma-chan in Non Non Biyrori and she is not moe". The problem with moe hater is how they just shove everything they don't like to "moe" and use it as a disparaging label without actually giving much thought of what this term means in general, not just what it means to him (and him alone). I think it's silly when some people pretend that they don't know what those moe haters mean when they hate moe. Not a lot of people are gonna call Zodd from Berserk a moe character. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moe_anthropomorphism tsudecimo said: Maybe, and anyway I am not going to object to the comment that "moe is running [sic] the anime industry for me" because in many ways moe is indeed driving the design and planning of many manga/anime/LN. As I said, it is still fine to talk about moe, narrowly defined, in some restricted topics. And topics of whether "moe is running [sic] the anime industry" or "there is too much anime with moe for me" is valid whether you use a narrow definition or a broad definition. However, when you want to talk about whether a character is moe, or whether a particular anime has a lot of moe, or the role of moe in character design in general, then it makes a lot more sense to use the fundamental and broad definition. That's my point. If someone says '' Moe is running the current anime industry for me '' or '' There is too much anime with moe in them these days'' I think you would have a basic idea about what they mean by that. |
symbvNov 23, 2013 11:03 PM
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It's a little sad that I got every questions wrong except for the last one -.-; symbv said: it is about the feeling generated in the watchers and the attempt to design and portray the characters in such a way that such feeling are more likely to be generated among the audience. Well if that's the case, let's take Koma-chan and Myusel as examples. I love Koma-chan, it's my favourite character in NNB, but I hate Myusel with passion, I just can't like her, and it's not like I have a grudge for maids, for some reason her character and the moe-ness pisses me off, but I don't feel that way toward Koma-chan, how would you explain this? Oh now that I think about it, my hatred for her probably doesn't generate from moe ~.~ But even so among moe characters, it's separated by "natural moe" and "deliberate moe". Koma-chan is probably in the natural moe category, and Myusel is grouped in the latter one. It's really hard to explain but I do find that there is a gap/difference between one moe/cute character (like Koma-chan) and another moeeeeee character (like Myusel). Maybe it's the purpose of their character, Myusel came off to me as "I exist to make fans go KYAAA SO MOEEEE over me" and Koma-chan would be like "Uh yeah.. whatever" and it feels really natural when she acts cute.. Ugh this is really hard to explain, I hope I didn't create more confusion. |
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ToG25thBaam said: This is normal. As I said, you feel appealed by certain moe point and certain execution of moe point, but you let ceratin moe point pass you by or you are allergic to certain moe point or certain execution of moe point. And it is not difficult to think of examples: A person may feel moe towards a ojou character but feel indifferent towards a loli teacher character or a kuudere character. Another person may find a maid character like Myusel moe and appealing but a chibi junior high student like Koma-chan to be so-so. But does it mean that only those characters that these two persons find appealing moe? No, all the characters are designed with moe in mind and it was understood that the moe may appeal only to certain segment of the audience. The hope is that having more moe points in the anime will help the anime appeal to different groups of people - because Japanese seem to have higher tolerance of moe that they do not like (they feel more indifferent than hate it), so the risk of the inclusion of more moe points alienating watchers (like you said, pissing you off) is deemed bearable. Well if that's the case, let's take Koma-chan and Myusel as examples. I love Koma-chan, it's my favourite character in NNB, but I hate Myusel with passion, I just can't like her, and it's not like I have a grudge for maids, for some reason her character and the moe-ness pisses me off, but I don't feel that way toward Koma-chan, how would you explain this? And actually this is the main point of moe. It is not what you find is moe but what some group of viewers find moe (which you may or may not find moe). It is one of the biggest confusions and misunderstandings western fans have over moe. And it is what many moe haters got wrong when they talk about how much they hate moe (which in fact is usually just part of moe which they happen to be sensitive about and intensely dislike). ToG25thBaam said: Yeah, as I said you are more sensitive to certain way of presenting and executing the moe point, so you'd find the way Myusel's character is portrayed objectionable but not Koma-chan's, but I can tell you that the character Koma-chan is built clearly with moe in mind - the "gap" moe that I mentioned earlier is just as deliberate and in fact may be more deliberate compared to Myusel. At least I find it more natural to see Myusel wearing maid outfit and sounding obsequious l than a junior high girl like Koma-chan being as short as a primary kid and always at the mercy of her younger sister.Oh now that I think about it, my hatred for her probably doesn't generate from moe ~.~ But even so among moe characters, it's separated by "natural moe" and "deliberate moe". Koma-chan is probably in the natural moe category, and Myusel is grouped in the latter one. It's really hard to explain but I do find that there is a gap/difference between one moe/cute character (like Koma-chan) and another moeeeeee character (like Myusel). Maybe it's the purpose of their character, Myusel came off to me as "I exist to make fans go KYAAA SO MOEEEE over me" and Koma-chan would be like "Uh yeah.. whatever" and it feels really natural when she acts cute.. Ugh this is really hard to explain, I hope I didn't create more confusion. |
symbvNov 24, 2013 4:53 AM
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
| Non Non Biyori and Infinite Stratos both seem to have had rather bad weeks this week. |
| There is no such thing as shit taste. Only idiots who think everyone should have the same taste as they do. |
kuuderes_shadow said: On the other hand, I saw Magi2 rose significantly in both BD and DVD ranking. Some amazing episode aired last week? Or another order troll attack? Non Non Biyori and Infinite Stratos both seem to have had rather bad weeks this week. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
| Has Magi v1 always or for a long time had an event ticket? I don't recall one but I'm not watching the show or buying it so I may just not have noticed. What about Unbreakable Machine Doll? I am buying that and yet just noticed that it has an event ticket in v1 but it either happened a long time ago or had 0 effect. Not that the ticket does me any good... There are about 20 shows with first volume event tickets so perhaps their effect is being watered down. Of course there are event tickets like UtaPri, LoveLive! and Sympgear Live! and then there are ho hum events... |
hpulleyNov 24, 2013 5:14 AM
| Magi2 v1 is really suspicious because its lowest rank and highest rank are so far apart but time-wise they are close. 最高順位 ***,426位(2013年11月17日) 最低順位 *18,842位(2013年11月15日) |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
symbv said: At least I find it more natural to see Myusel wearing maid outfit and sounding obsequious l than a junior high girl like Koma-chan being as short as a primary kid and always at the mercy of her younger sister. But you might have forgotten the fact that Myusel and many other servants were abused in their world, so appearing all MOE like that is quite wrong imho. She isn't a maid, she is a moe character under the guise of a maid, feels like she's an average girl cosplaying as a maid and try to appear to be all MOE. At least Koma-chan is more realistic, a HS/MS student acts childishly, hell some adults appeared to be childish too. |
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ToG25thBaam said: You can say that same thing about any maid in Victorian age or before. Does it mean that the servants depicted in those age should never be depicted as looking cute and behaving obsequiously? But you might have forgotten the fact that Myusel and many other servants were abused in their world, so appearing all MOE like that is quite wrong imho. ToG25thBaam said: This is a ridiculous statement you made here because what you said could be applied any character in an anime. Koma-chan is not a middle-school pupil but a moe character under the guise of a middle school pupil etc. At the end you may find Myusel's behavior unconvincing, but I would say that her behavior is far from an average girl (which average girl would behave really so obsequiously and self-deprecatingly like a traditional servant from a bygone age?) and it is actually precisely that she looks rather convincing in the fantasy context of Outbreak Company's world.She isn't a maid, she is a moe character under the guise of a maid, feels like she's an average girl cosplaying as a maid and try to appear to be all MOE. |
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Hahalollawl said: hpulley said: ^^^ See, I knew you'd come around LOL Seriously, glad you found more you like. For me the real problem is trying not to order them all... and just the ones I really, really, really want to put on heavy rotation for the next few months. Not sure if we'll see WHITE ALBUM, SOUND OF DESTINY or others from White Album 2 anime CDs for a while so I broke down and ordered a game OST from last year. If they put out new versions I'll likely get them too, surprised actually that the OSTs aren't on there as bonuses like Symphogear G as it is the same record/production company and they usually follow that model, plus character song CDs. Makes me a bit less likely to get the Blurays. This is kinda late, but I agree that there does seem to be some pretty good music this season in my opinion. Or maybe we just like similar things lol. And I haven't heard the full version, but even just the op version of Todokanai Koi '13' is fantastic. One of, if not my favorite song of the season. Savior of Song and X-encounter are pretty catchy too. I also like the OP and ED for StB. I haven't kept up with all of the shows so I'm not sure about the stuff from Kill la Kill or Log Horizon. And I think I might have been distracted by the handstands during the Noucome OP lol...not sure why it sold so much. I quite like the music in White Album 2 as well, and also the Machine Doll ED, Tokyo Ravens OP, NagiAsu OP, StB OP/ED, Log Horizon ED and LB! ~Refrain~ OP/ED. This is coming from someone who probably has 90% of music being jpop/anison, lol xD And yeah, those handstands are distracting, as are those gravity resistant skirts from the NouCome OP... |
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| ^^^ I ended up getting the White Album 2 Setsuna OST SACD, the White Album 2 PS Vita game in addition to the Todokanai Koi '13 / Sayonara no Koto / closing '13 CD and ordered the Bluray volumes so far so WA2 is one of my season favorites. The game is great but mostly text, voice, music and stills so I want the anime too. Also bought NouCome OP and ED CDs and ordered the Blurays. Sweet Melty Love is a great song even without the antigravity skirts. Need the bonus novel. Machine Doll too bought the OP and amazing ED CDs and ordered the Blurays. Need these bonus novels too. Non Non Biyori is the other one I need on Bluray and I got the ED CD too. Just so gorgeous I need to see it on Bluray. Oh and Teekyuu 3 is another disc I need. Overall sales seem to be down this season but my personal ones went up from the last two seasons, but still way down from last fall. Date Time, Savior of Song, Strike My Soul, Kyokai no Kanata, Univer Page, et al, so many CDs I had to buy this season. Snowdrop and Outbreak Company Character Song CDs ordered... |
Hahalollawl said: The skirts are VERY distracting. If they had not been anti-gravity magical they would have been even MORE distracting...... By the way, I didn't mean to say the NouCome OP was terrible, but I just don't seem to remember much if any of it, and I think it's because I was so distracted by those handstands and skirts lol. Strike My Soul is another one I've liked. And that full version of Todokanai Koi '13'... Wow... Yuka Iguchi did a really good job with Strike My Soul and Rainbow Heart Rainbow Dream is really good too. She is Astarte but it isn't listed as a character song, just her single. I was happy to get the last LE at CDJapan, the random first press bonus card I got of her is really cute! Very pleased. I love the Todokanai Koi '13 full version, it is great but if you haven't heard it, check out the Acoustic Valentines' Day version of it off the Setsuna White Album 2 Game OST SACD. It is so good, just amazing. And the sound of it on my Sony 6-speaker system and SACD player is simply amazing. Just acoustic guitar and Setsuna singing... pure magic! I just hope they get a chance to do Valentines' Day in the anime... The same disc has an acoustic version of Jikan no Mahou (magic of time) as well, again, simply wonderful. The music is the real star of the White Album series. |
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