| Haven't heard of Madoka till recently (like 4 weeks ago) still need to finish Steins;Gate. Is it worth watching Madoka? Is it that good? |
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origami-samurai said: Haven't heard of Madoka till recently (like 4 weeks ago) still need to finish Steins;Gate. Is it worth watching Madoka? Is it that good? It's good. But the first 2 episodes are mehish. |
| Is this even a question? On one side something with good characters, a good plot, and moreover an intelligent anime which makes you use your brain and theorize a lot, on the other side, an anime which have as only interest interest is to be grimdark with "cute" girls. Okay. for a shaft anime, it was pretty meh. I don't "hate" Madoka but killing your character before any developement is NOT a good idea. At all. plus, the "deep" part is only pseudophilosophy. If this is supposed to be deep, then steins is even deeper, since it takes a LOT, a WHOLE LOT from existing sciences and criticize it a lot if it is needed. Basically, the best things of the show were Homura and Kyouko. Aside from this, it wasn't bad, but even compared to Nanoha... Keh, no, thx. Ep10 of madoka was GODLY though. Damn, this episode. Too bad the end is one of the worst I've ever seen in any media of my whole life, it could have saved the show. Ep10 gave me a lot of hopes. Doesn't make any real sense. Not unless Okabe has been sliding instead of time travailing. Sorry but no. Almost everything make sense. And yes, it's more liking sliding than time traveling. Ever read about the MWI the show is all about? |
willardhwrightSep 8, 2011 12:03 PM
| Well the vote bar has S;G shitting on Madoka, and its pretty likely that most who voted saw both series, so that's good enough for me. XD |
Valkyrie-Ryu said: Oh ROFL! Still LMAO! Best shit ever.ringoo4 said: u mad bro?You said off topic? I'm off topic because 'this thread shouldn't even exist'! It is shit thread, and shit posts are being made with needless but shit reasoning for comparisons. Why should I not join this awesome flame bait? Oosran said: Oh please Ano Hana is very close to this except in a totally different genre. You can't deny that both threads have powerful emotional responses. So there you have it.darkro90 said: Wait, what?Mormegil said: This.Steins;Gate=Ano Hana > Madoka I can accept that Madoka is somewhat good, but AnoHana less than a light year from Steins;Gate? No way. |
| Gotta say how completely bias this thread is gonna be if your only posting it in the Steins;gate forum just saying. But my answer would be Madoka, madoka by far. The art and music were all beauitful, story wise; Madoka they got through it great. Steins;gate, their story was completely confusing and boring in the beginning with all this science stuff but got much better as time went on. Madoka to me did give off Yuri vibes to me x-x, SG...Okabe x Kurisu ruined it. They could've done far much better without that and I found it kinda sudden since alot of the story halfway focused on Mayuri...and Okabe's desperate-ness to save her yet she wasn't the one he cared about the most. ( don't hate on my post Im just stating my opinion ). |
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Yumekichi11 said: Oh please Ano Hana is very close to this except in a totally different genre. Your point is irrelevant. This entire thread would be pointless (more so than it already is) if everyone were to allow the difference in genre to stop them from comparing multiple shows to each other. |
RyuKirin said: Gotta say how completely bias this thread is gonna be if your only posting it in the Steins;gate forum just saying. Why are people saying this? This logic makes absolutely NO sense. This not a S;G club or anything, this is only a thread where ANYBODY with ANY opinion can vote. As most of the responses show, MOST people who voted and are responding saw BOTH series. It doesn't make a difference where the thread is, people saw both, and they are choosing. And we will act like the fact you are pro Madoka doesn't have anything with you saying this is bias voting. |
| Hey guys, here's my opinion! Steins;Gate=Madoka=Anohana They're all great shows, they each have good qualities that the other two don't. Anohana is a great drama. Madoka is a great psychological adventure. Steins;Gate is a great sci-fi thriller. |
| I have not seen AnoHana, but I haven't really heard anything about it being exceptional until now. Would I like it if I like Madoka and S;G? |
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Xiao97 said: Solkiskey said: Hey guys, here's my opinion! Steins;Gate=Madoka=Anohana They're all great shows, they each have good qualities that the other two don't. Anohana is a great drama. Madoka is a great psychological adventure. Steins;Gate is a great sci-fi thriller. Agreed. They're all completely different from each other and they're all good in their own ways. You win this thread. The other opinions in this thread are really annoying. Just because they are different genres it doesn't mean one cannot (indeed, it is surely impossible to like any two things entirely equally) have a preference over the other. |
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Well it's been said before, but Madoka can't be entirely compared to Steins;Gate, and there have been many pointless arguments throughout this whole thread, and in the end they all are pretty much good. then you cannot compare ANYTHING and then any ranking is useless. Which is your opinion, okay. but god, I don't understand, why do people who hate to see other people's opinions and people arguing even go in a thread which have this name? I'm okay for discussing opinions with Madoka-fanboy who are not okay with me, I've done this during the whole time Madoka was airing. but saying that "opinion are useless, period, everything is great, you all are annoying" in a thread like this...? hu? It's specifically a thread about opinions. And I don't think there is 15 threads like this on the front page, it shouldn't be too distrubing. I have not seen AnoHana, but I haven't really heard anything about it being exceptional until now. Would I like it if I like Madoka and S;G? I think that they don't have enough things in common to say this. Anohana also play a lot on emotions, etc, but in a different way than steins. |
| ^^^ Plus 1. Why come to a thread that CLEARLY is a voting thread to choose if you're just gonna come in here and complain that you can't choose? Then don't come in the thread? o.O |
RyuKirin said: Gotta say how completely bias this thread is gonna be if your only posting it in the Steins;gate forum just saying. But my answer would be Madoka, madoka by far. The art and music were all beauitful, story wise; Madoka they got through it great. Steins;gate, their story was completely confusing and boring in the beginning with all this science stuff but got much better as time went on. Madoka to me did give off Yuri vibes to me x-x, SG...Okabe x Kurisu ruined it. They could've done far much better without that and I found it kinda sudden since alot of the story halfway focused on Mayuri...and Okabe's desperate-ness to save her yet she wasn't the one he cared about the most. ( don't hate on my post Im just stating my opinion ). You're talking about story when you can't even comprehend the situation the S;G has. |
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RedMage23 said: I have not seen AnoHana, but I haven't really heard anything about it being exceptional until now. Would I like it if I like Madoka and S;G? Well if you liked Steins;Gate and Madoka for its drama, then the answer is yes. If not, then I don't know. |
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Jack_Rav said: Xiao97 said: Solkiskey said: Hey guys, here's my opinion! Steins;Gate=Madoka=Anohana They're all great shows, they each have good qualities that the other two don't. Anohana is a great drama. Madoka is a great psychological adventure. Steins;Gate is a great sci-fi thriller. Agreed. They're all completely different from each other and they're all good in their own ways. You win this thread. The other opinions in this thread are really annoying. Just because they are different genres it doesn't mean one cannot (indeed, it is surely impossible to like any two things entirely equally) have a preference o over the other. Hence why I stated 'Here's my opinion' =P |
| You CAN like a apple better than a orange though |
Solkiskey said: When you said 'I hate moe' you instantly proves yourself that you really know NOTHING about moe. Moe is has extremely ambiguous concept, even Nodame herself falls in area of of moe. What is moe?? Cute girl doing cute things? Tuturu anyone? So since you hate moe, you hate Tuturu, you hate tsun tsun kurisu too. That's why it is very very very 'stupid reason!!!' lol I say 'fuck' or 'shit in order to make you mad. Haven't you realised it doh hoh? You didn't even disagreed what my policy of 'not disagreeing but saying it is shit'. As I said, I don't fuckin care how belives what or not. If they are providing good reasoning or logical analysis, or admits its just their own opinion or taste, I don't fuckin care. If they don't, that means it is stupid. Oooh this is going to be very fun. You should learn what an opinion is. Nodame Cantabile, in my opinion, is better than K-On because it has less moe, BECAUSE I DO NOT LIKE MOE. Do you understand now? Comprehension 101 anyone? (I know I'm being repetitive, but god HOW CAN YOU BE SO DENSE?) This isn't about reasoning or whatever. I don't like this show because there's an aspect of it that bothers me-- that's it. I prefer XXX over XXX because there's less ecchi in the first one. I don't really like ecchi, thus, it's normal for me to prefer the one with less ecchi, right? Of course not, since you know all about opinions and you should tell us how to write them. Might as well tell us what to like and what not to like? I mean, we're all ignorants and you know everything. ... Steins;Gate killed moe? huhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Higurashi and Madoka may not be THAT similar, but, at base, they're pretty similar with the time loops and, how would you call it, the 'moe killing' twist. Then again, I found both shows pretty similar, they just had a different theme. 'This thread shouldn't exist' isn't a good reason for being offtopic. Continue being like that and I'll report you for spamming, even though you probably won't care. Btw, the word 'fuck' doesn't make your argument any stronger. =) ONTOPIC : In the end, I think Madoka and Steins;Gate shouldn't be compared, as they're completely different shows dealing with different values. and again, the reason that this entire thread is trash is none other than this; nextday said: Hey hey, look! It should go to spam forum! Moderators are clever since they know it is shit and better for spamming. Thus, I will 'pre' spam this thread before it goes to the right place. am-i-right????It's like you're not even trying, OP. kei-clone said: Random "xxx vs. yyy" threads should generally go to spam forum. Basically "Death Note vs. Bleach" = spam, while "Haruhi Season 1 vs. Haruhi Season 2" has its own merits, so should go into one of the Haruhi discussion boards. http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=26613 waterflame said: Lol needless dramas? What is good thing about internet without those?LOL, reading this thread feels like watching Jersey Shore - lots of "fuck; shit; etc etc" & fights all the time & needless drama. STFU already, everybody has their own opinion and point of view and everybody is different, that's why WE ARE PEOPLE! Have you met people? They've got personalities, ya know... So deal with it and just vote on the friggin poll... >.< Edit: Do NOT tell me I'm changing teams, I just posted my thoughts and couldn't have cared less about what other people(neither you here, nor THE "critics"). Nuff said. Valkyrie-Ryu said: No, it is called having fun... oh wait, it is same. Well, I guess I am true SM fetish idiot. u.u~~willardhwright said: I believe it's called 'masochism'.but god, I don't understand, why do people who hate to see other people's opinions and people arguing even go in a thread which have this name? Jack_Rav said: The problem is that it doesn't end with just providing 'preference'. They put needless babbling around it, in order to make it look cool, even though it is shit.Just because they are different genres it doesn't mean one cannot (indeed, it is surely impossible to like any two things entirely equally) have a preference over the other. Tenchi_Ryu said: But if people say 'Orange is inferior to Apple since orange has more moe than apple', that would be stupid.You CAN like a apple better than a orange though |
ringoo4Sep 8, 2011 5:15 PM
| You've got to be kidding me; Modoka FAILSSSSSSSSSSSS in comparison to Steins;Gate. |
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ringoo4 said: When you said 'I hate moe' you instantly proves yourself that you really know NOTHING about moe. Moe is has extremely ambiguous concept, even Nodame herself falls in area of of moe. What is moe?? Cute girl doing cute things? Tuturu anyone? So since you hate moe, you hate Tuturu, you hate tsun tsun kurisu too. That's why it is very very very 'stupid reason!!!' lol I say 'fuck' or 'shit in order to make you mad. Haven't you realised it doh hoh? You didn't even disagreed what my policy of 'not disagreeing but saying it is shit'. As I said, I don't fuckin care how belives what or not. If they are providing good reasoning or logical analysis, or admits its just their own opinion or taste, I don't fuckin care. If they don't, that means it is stupid. Notice how I said I prefer Nodame Cantabile over K-On because it has LESS moe. I do not like moe, but I can TOLERATE it. Learn to read for god's sake. And I don't like Mayurii, nor do I like the tsundere side of Kurisu. They're both noisy and annoying. =) Saying fuck or shit to make me mad? I hope you're expecting a failure. Okay, so, in your point of view, an opinion is ONLY valid if you actually state it is an opinion? lolwut? Deduct that yourself, do you need to be spoonfed all the time? And I don't disagree with your 'policy' of yours, I STRONGLY disagree with it. It's just stupid how you think you're above everyone else. Sit the hell down. Your late sentence makes no sense whatsoever. I'm not even going to respond to it. Thank you for entertaining me today though. You're really something, hahahaha. Orange and apple with moe? Lol? Dude, atleast give a legit example if you want us to take you seriously. |
Kyouma_y said: If your mind can't interpret the epicness that is Steins;Gate, I recommend you to read "The Far Valhella" before you go on your rampage of saying anything more nonsense than "plot holes", unless you can at least appreciate the concepts of causality, MWI, Self-consistency Principle etc. First, Steins;Gate ain't no time traveling. Second, Makise Shouitsu is a jerk and other casts boring because you take things at face value. Third, your whole logic is merely speaking out loud your dislike of Steins;Gate. Mate, it's not that I can't interpret it. It's because I can. It's because I can predict it. I can guess accurately how the plot will progress. So much of the "epicness" has no effect on me. I would be glad to read that book. I am never one to turn down a story. However could you spell the title correctly for me? Because I searched for that and can't find it anywhere. So either you misspelled it or it's obscure. First, correct me if I was wrong but wasn't this show supposed to be about time travel? Second, I never miss even the slightest hint of a deeper character so please don't assume that because I find the characters boring it means that I don't understand them. Third....you are right about this one. But explaining my opinion in massive paragraphs only results in wasting my time and getting responses of TL; DR. Kyouma_y said: The answer is both yes and no. Yes, the Chaos;Head anime is a miserable bullcrap. And NO, the failed anime adaption *point at Madhouse* has nothing to do with the original VN which is fairly good if not excellent. I'm sorry you couldn't even realise these two things are in two totally different universes. AND I'll just leave this whole Hayashi vs Gen thingy, for there will be people that would KINDLY discuss with you I'm sure. I was referring to the visual novel. Not the anime. I played the visual novel first and was sorely disappointed by it. Especially after that excellent start. |
 "I always take life with a grain of salt, ...plus a slice of lemon, ...and a shot of tequila." |
| Where would you fin that 'Far Valhalla' story? |
Solkiskey said: 'LESS' moe? You just said 'LESS' moe? Moe is fuckin 'CONCEPT'. There is no such thing as 'less' moe or 'more' moe. If you say something like 'character ONLY has moe without depth', that would be argument that I will have absolutely no problem with. The entire Steins;Gate female cast is already creation of moe concept, or Nadame character also belongs to some stereotypes but because of their 'depth', those are negated. Notice how I said I prefer Nodame Cantabile over K-On because it has LESS moe. I do not like moe, but I can TOLERATE it. Learn to read for god's sake. And I don't like Mayurii, nor do I like the tsundere side of Kurisu. They're both noisy and annoying. =) Okay, so, in your point of view, an opinion is ONLY valid if you actually state it is an opinion? lolwut? Deduct that yourself, do you need to be spoonfed all the time? And I don't disagree with your 'policy' of yours, I STRONGLY disagree with it. It's just stupid I said I don't care about OPINION! I said care about 'stupidity' or 'shittyness' in reasoning! In case of this post right above you;gingabishounen said: I don't even bother to respond it, because he isn't saying any other stupid reasons to support the thing. He hates Madoka. Puff. Done. Nothing I can do about it. Now, if someone say stupid reasons behind it, I attack it. If someone say some-what understandable reasons, I discuss 'without' attacking. That's my policy, and I'm pretty it isn't just me who does this. You've got to be kidding me; Modoka FAILSSSSSSSSSSSS in comparison to Steins;Gate. Of course I'm 'above everyone else', just like 'everyone else' also think about themselves. Booyeah. Your late sentence makes no sense whatsoever. I'm not even going to respond to it. You don't, either. u.u~~ |
| ...and thus the flame wars starts. Seriously, moderators should not allow such thread to be made simply because of.... well you all know what I mean <__< My personal rating of series (I rate shows high so 8 is really just my average ratings): Madoka: 8/10 (again, my personal enjoyment of the series was abysmal and I am surprised people actually like that series. Definitely not something I recommend my friends to watch.... :/) Steins;Gate: 8.5-9/10 (some of the scenes were a bit too fake and the acting of the characters are slightly awkward and unnatural. Some episodes were quite disappointing once you figured out everything from the rather obvious clues. Good job trying to use time travel as plot device though) AnoHana: 8.5/10 (the beginning was truly wonderful but it degenerated halfway through due to its predictability....Could have been better...) So so far nothing too impressive. The 2011 season so far has been decent and "good", but there were no "mind-blowing" series that were released. So far, it's not really fair to mention sequels like Natsume 3 and Gintama 2 so I won't mention them. Based on these ratings, S:G seems to lead for me. No way I am voting for Madoka since it was (imo) an absolutely horrible series from CERTAIN perspective. Although I give it a 8 because of OTHER perspective (not just enjoyment), the artistic direction is just SHAFT with a bit more budget. Nothing special there if you regularly watch SHAFT series. The characters were totally turn off though and I predicted Mami's demise the second she appeared due to obvious death flags. The other perspective being: good economical success, overall positive fan reaction and wonderful music. |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
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| both shows ride on the hype train but madoka is better. Steins Gates has the typical cliche shonen hero. |
| I'm a total fag for anything Urobochi and I'm also a total fag for anything Nitro, so I'll go with the one that has both. taro_sado said: Typical? Shounen? Hero?Steins Gates has the typical cliche shonen hero. He had to make quite a few morally fucked up decisions to get where he is, I haven't really seen anything similar in a shounen. Maybe I'm just looking at all the wrong places. |
Ghostalker said: It's not even 2012 yet. I think this should be done when all 2011 shows has already aired. Between the two I'll vote for Madoka Magica though, the problem is Steins;gate is still airing and most likely the one that is hyped now and will therefore win this. Suggestion, this poll should be done at least a few months once the airing of steins;gate is done. Agree with the final statement, I still cannot judge any of the anime yet because I have yet to watch Steins Gate |
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| Steins gate .....Madoka was great but i prefer Sci-fi more than Magical girl |
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ringoo4 said: Solkiskey said: 'LESS' moe? You just said 'LESS' moe? Moe is fuckin 'CONCEPT'. There is no such thing as 'less' moe or 'more' moe. If you say something like 'character ONLY has moe without depth', that would be argument that I will have absolutely no problem with. The entire Steins;Gate female cast is already creation of moe concept, or Nadame character also belongs to some stereotypes but because of their 'depth', those are negated. Notice how I said I prefer Nodame Cantabile over K-On because it has LESS moe. I do not like moe, but I can TOLERATE it. Learn to read for god's sake. And I don't like Mayurii, nor do I like the tsundere side of Kurisu. They're both noisy and annoying. =) Okay, so, in your point of view, an opinion is ONLY valid if you actually state it is an opinion? lolwut? Deduct that yourself, do you need to be spoonfed all the time? And I don't disagree with your 'policy' of yours, I STRONGLY disagree with it. It's just stupid I said I don't care about OPINION! I said care about 'stupidity' or 'shittyness' in reasoning! In case of this post right above you;gingabishounen said: I don't even bother to respond it, because he isn't saying any other stupid reasons to support the thing. He hates Madoka. Puff. Done. Nothing I can do about it. Now, if someone say stupid reasons behind it, I attack it. If someone say some-what understandable reasons, I discuss 'without' attacking. That's my policy, and I'm pretty it isn't just me who does this. You've got to be kidding me; Modoka FAILSSSSSSSSSSSS in comparison to Steins;Gate. Of course I'm 'above everyone else', just like 'everyone else' also think about themselves. Booyeah. Your late sentence makes no sense whatsoever. I'm not even going to respond to it. You don't, either. u.u~~Okay, maybe I've expressed myself the wrong way : I prefer Nodame Cantabile over K-On because the moe is less 'intense', get it now? |
| Where's the "Neither. Yodemasu yo, Azazel-san was the best anime of 2011" option? :| |
| I like them both but non of them are the best anime of the year for me. I put my vote on Madoka as i don't know how Steins;Gate will end yet. |
ringoo4 said: Like four days late but:Webeiss said: That logics indicates that Gintama is the best animation ever made.Yeah Madoka's not even top 5. That's not to say it was terrible or anything but it's not the greatest thing ever. Fuck Gintama. |
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| Madoka=Overrated. Steins Gate=I haven't seen, lol. My prediction, is, the K-ON movie. BITCHES. |
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| On multiple forums including here. People are saying Steins;Gate is the best anime ever........ WHAT DOES THIS REMIND YOU OF? Yup....... Gonna watch Steins;Gate when the hype dies down some like I did with Madoka. |
| Steins;Gate was awesome. I wasn't subjected to any hype before I've seen it and I watched it from the beginning when it was on ep 21 already, so I don't feel like I might have been biased. Besides, too much hype may affect you negatively cause you expect too much. |
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| Steins;Gate is most overrated anime title on MAL now. No-one seems to care about how horribly predictable the story was, nothing near to perfect. People aren't rating their anime here, they just give it a number. I ain't gonna give a shit about MALs mean score anymore. IMDb 7.9/10, animewatcher 7.5/10. You people are sick. Now go and study the difference between good and great. |
| I definitely have superpowers. I can feel it in my balls. |
| Hell both of these series are both being overhyped as all hell. Madoka is being shoved down our throats and Steins;Gate will soon. Hell I love Madoka. But both these shows need to die down. We are soon gonna get Steins;Gate branded Dr. Pepper. |
| S;G's MAL score is incredibly inflated IMO, more so than Madoka. I honestly think it's just an above average series. The first half felt really dragged and uninteresting, and the second half though more enjoyable, wasn't as mind-blowing as the fans rave it out to be. I found it, overall, just as entertaining as its co-airing shows, T&B and AnoHana. Not to say Madoka didn't have flaws, Anyway, I voted Madoka. But really, Nichijou is my anime of the year. :p |
Solkiskey said: Late response, but you are still - dumb. There is no difference in saying 'less intense' and 'less'. ㅋㅋㅋOkay, maybe I've expressed myself the wrong way : I prefer Nodame Cantabile over K-On because the moe is less 'intense', get it now? Karhu said: So foolish, sooo foolish. For me, IMDb is concentrated with one of the worst elitist in animation community, thus I reject to take those ratings as standard of the series. Steins;Gate is most overrated anime title on MAL now. No-one seems to care about how horribly predictable the story was, nothing near to perfect. People aren't rating their anime here, they just give it a number. I ain't gonna give a shit about MALs mean score anymore. IMDb 7.9/10, animewatcher 7.5/10. You people are sick. Now go and study the difference between good and great. With anti-fan mindset, everything can become flaw. Perspective war never wins. Work said: Didn't read manga? lol.Anyway, I voted Madoka. But really, Nichijou is my anime of the year. :p |
ringoo4Nov 13, 2011 7:09 PM
| Madoka, love the art and the music atmosphere. Steins;gate.. i got pissed off by that redhead, and the story.. was not that impressive at all. Kind of w/e. |
| LUL |
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