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Jul 12, 2013 11:54 PM
#401
justgiveup said: EarlCiel said: The piece of her sleeve and the crystal ball really confuses me though... Was it mentioned that it was her sleeve in a first place? There's blood on the sleeves. |
Jul 12, 2013 11:55 PM
#402
Patureau said: VoidNoodle said: Quick explanation on the glass ball thing. I'll put it on spoilers. Glass ball thing was found in the garbage disposal room. Inside, there's an incinerator. The incinerator area is locked by fences, and you can only open or disable the fences with a key. The group decided that the first one to hold it was Yamada(otaku guy) The glass ball was found broken below the open/close switch of the incinerator. Belongs to...afro dude. I honestly can't remember this guy's name. He told Naegi in the game that he accidentally left it inside the laundry room. I hope this could add some more to your theories. :) Again, if you don't want to look at it, just don't click the spoiler. I only elaborated the evidence inside, don't worry. what ? now i'm more confused than ever... otaku dude is involved in this ? damn, I need to think about this, it will take some time I added an edit. The distance between the fence and the incinerator is quite far. Now, why is the glass ball broken, anyway? |
Jul 12, 2013 11:55 PM
#403
VoidNoodle said: Dude. You are getting ahead on yourself. They will be explained during the Class Trial. Don't make it to influence other's speculation.Quick explanation on the glass ball thing. I'll put it on spoilers. I hope this could add some more to your theories. :) Again, if you don't want to look at it, just don't click the spoiler. I only elaborated the evidence inside, don't worry. Comparing it to the game, investigations took more depth than the anime but only during the Class Trial will make brains crackin' with a lot of new information/evidence. It is not only Naegi who did the investigation by himself after all. |
Jul 12, 2013 11:56 PM
#404
EarlCiel said: The room swap...ah yes. And how the signs on the door to the rooms were also switched. That confuses me... All your imagination and deduction skills are going to waste! I really think you should play the game instead. Your deduction skills are so much more amazing than the peeps at GameFaqs showing off how they were able to see events happening with just a single piece of evidence and by following Japanese tropes and patterns. So god damn creative. |
Jul 12, 2013 11:57 PM
#405
Patureau said: VoidNoodle said: Quick explanation on the glass ball thing. I'll put it on spoilers. Glass ball thing was found in the garbage disposal room. Inside, there's an incinerator. The incinerator area is locked by fences, and you can only open or disable the fences with a key. The group decided that the first one to hold it was Yamada(otaku guy) The glass ball was found broken below the open/close switch of the incinerator. Belongs to...afro dude. I honestly can't remember this guy's name. He told Naegi in the game that he accidentally left it inside the laundry room. I hope this could add some more to your theories. :) Again, if you don't want to look at it, just don't click the spoiler. I only elaborated the evidence inside, don't worry. what ? now i'm more confused than ever... otaku dude is involved in this ? damn, I need to think about this, it will take some time He's just the one that does have the key to the incinerator. You're not supposed to be able to access to the incinerator without the key because there is a fence thee. But as you can guess it will be a little more complicated. |
Jul 12, 2013 11:57 PM
#406
KuroneDLC said: Keetriver said: Jesus fudge why the hell are these main characters always so god awful at explaining? "We attended the same junior school together called _________. She came to me because she said she heard the doorknob clatter in her room. I told her it would be alright, since no one is allowed to break curfew, but she was still concerned as she thought it was only a verbal agreement. I told her she should stay in my room for the night, but it got a little awkward, so we instead decided to switch rooms. After staying in her room for the night, I headed straight to the planned meeting location." I could say all that in 20 seconds flat. It might not entirely help the situation, but its better than standing there being a dumbass. You also have to keep in mind that they may have not even listened to him, considering they were all panicking over the whole "execution" business. Even if he tried to explain better, they could've dismissed it all, or even interrupted him because they thought he was lying. Well everyone thinks he's the culprit anyway, so I don't think his situation could really get any worse than it already has, hence absolutely no harm in trying to make an honest point. Whether he be interrupted or not, the guy didn't even TRY to explain anything to them. He just took it all like an absolute dumbass. "NO it wasn't me! It wasn't me! It wasn't me!" Fricken say something useful! Jesus!!! - -" |
Jul 12, 2013 11:58 PM
#407
| The most obvious clue is the writing, which says "LEON" upside-down, ... but needn't necessarily have been written by the victim -- it could easily have been written by the killer to frame that person. The crystal ball seems like an obvious connection to the psychic guy with the Shadows Fall hair. |
Jul 12, 2013 11:59 PM
#408
EarlCiel said: WHYY do I keep mistakening Sayaka for Sayako? lol sigh I need to get this problem fixed I actually remember her name quite well...mainly because there is a Sayaka and a Kyouko in the same show. It always make me laugh. |
Jul 12, 2013 11:59 PM
#409
VoidNoodle said: I added an edit. The distance between the fence and the incinerator is quite far. Now, why is the glass ball broken, anyway? because it was thrown? I guess I understand what that ball was for now.It sure fortify my suspicion on who the killer is. |
Jul 13, 2013 12:00 AM
#410
DenjaX said: VoidNoodle said: Dude. You are getting ahead on yourself. They will be explained during the Class Trial. Don't make it to influence other's speculation.Quick explanation on the glass ball thing. I'll put it on spoilers. I hope this could add some more to your theories. :) Again, if you don't want to look at it, just don't click the spoiler. I only elaborated the evidence inside, don't worry. Comparing it to the game, investigations took more depth than the anime but only during the Class Trial will make brains crackin' with a lot of new information/evidence. It is not only Naegi who did the investigation by himself after all. That's the point. These are the details that the anime missed or skipped. I added it on spoiler tags just in case. So, you know, the theory-crafters could...theorize or something. I'm starting to think the anime's set to the lowest difficulty or something. -_- |
Jul 13, 2013 12:00 AM
#411
VoidNoodle said: Patureau said: VoidNoodle said: Quick explanation on the glass ball thing. I'll put it on spoilers. Glass ball thing was found in the garbage disposal room. Inside, there's an incinerator. The incinerator area is locked by fences, and you can only open or disable the fences with a key. The group decided that the first one to hold it was Yamada(otaku guy) The glass ball was found broken below the open/close switch of the incinerator. Belongs to...afro dude. I honestly can't remember this guy's name. He told Naegi in the game that he accidentally left it inside the laundry room. I hope this could add some more to your theories. :) Again, if you don't want to look at it, just don't click the spoiler. I only elaborated the evidence inside, don't worry. what ? now i'm more confused than ever... otaku dude is involved in this ? damn, I need to think about this, it will take some time I added an edit. The distance between the fence and the incinerator is quite far. Now, why is the glass ball broken, anyway? OK I can see two theories here, first one, afro dude made a prevision that someone did not like and in a rage moment this someone broke his ball, theory number two someone tried to open the fenceds by trowing the ball athe switch, possibly to get rid of evidence in the incinerator |
Jul 13, 2013 12:02 AM
#412
MrOCD said: EarlCiel said: The room swap...ah yes. And how the signs on the door to the rooms were also switched. That confuses me... All your imagination and deduction skills are going to waste! I really think you should play the game instead. Your deduction skills are so much more amazing than the peeps at GameFaqs showing off how they were able to see events happening with just a single piece of evidence and by following Japanese tropes and patterns. So god damn creative. To be honest it's really doable with the anime since this case is really easy if you keep a large view of everything. You can even guess the whole mess with Sayaka with ep1 alone. The incinerator room is the part where je anime just goddamn suck. And the sword here for self-defense, too. |
Jul 13, 2013 12:03 AM
#413
| Also, I highly suggest that everyone play the game if you have the PSP. Seriously, the Class Trials are frickin' sweet. Manga-style Crime Scene Event Reconstruction? SWEET AS HELL. |
Jul 13, 2013 12:03 AM
#414
40% of the guys here got the correct answer :u looks like few of us played the game eh? |
Jul 13, 2013 12:05 AM
#415
| Also, don't worry. While the case here seem to be easy as hell, the following cases will make your brain work. :) |
Jul 13, 2013 12:06 AM
#416
willardhwright said: To be honest it's really doable with the anime since this case is really easy if you keep a large view of everything. You can even guess the whole mess with Sayaka with ep1 alone. The incinerator room is the part where je anime just goddamn suck. And the sword here for self-defense, too. It wasn't exactly hard for me either. I'm only more impressed by how he/she was able to come to such a conclusion without added explanation to what evidence did what. Also, I just wanted to do a "Take That!" to, well, Gamefaqs. In fact, the entire game was relatively "easy" in comparison to the Ace Attorney games. I don't know how much I should be impressed by someone who hasn't played the game though, you got me on that. |
Jul 13, 2013 12:06 AM
#417
VoidNoodle said: I am sure the studio intended to hold other evidences/investigations for the trial. I always get the impromptu feel from the trial which Naegi doesn't need all evidences so he can take all the stage. I am sure the anime watchers will feel they are also part of the trial with new evidences/investigations that will be presented during the trial which will make their brain rolling. So I would suggest you don't get ahead so you can guide these people to the truth unless they are already presented from the anime. xDDThat's the point. These are the details that the anime missed or skipped. I added it on spoiler tags just in case. So, you know, the theory-crafters could...theorize or something. I'm starting to think the anime's set to the lowest difficulty or something. -_- |
Jul 13, 2013 12:07 AM
#418
DenjaX said: VoidNoodle said: Dude. You are getting ahead on yourself. They will be explained during the Class Trial. Don't make it to influence other's speculation.Quick explanation on the glass ball thing. I'll put it on spoilers. I hope this could add some more to your theories. :) Again, if you don't want to look at it, just don't click the spoiler. I only elaborated the evidence inside, don't worry. Comparing it to the game, investigations took more depth than the anime but only during the Class Trial will make brains crackin' with a lot of new information/evidence. It is not only Naegi who did the investigation by himself after all. Dangan is a mystery, it is meant to be solved. The problem is that it is not supposed to be some wild guessing, cluesare supposed to be there,and the anime skips some parts that are needed and turns it into a matter of luck if you are not goddamn good at this. Sometimes it's here (the numbers, the sword), sometimes it it's at all (EVERYTHING about the Janitor and how this room works). The part with the hair is another good example. |
Jul 13, 2013 12:07 AM
#419
VoidNoodle said: Also, I highly suggest that everyone play the game if you have the PSP. Seriously, the Class Trials are frickin' sweet. Manga-style Crime Scene Event Reconstruction? SWEET AS HELL. I stop after some tutorial part to watch the anime so I don't have to compare everything between the game and anime and then complain about how suck the anime adaption is. :P I should have done that with DS2 as well.... |
Jul 13, 2013 12:08 AM
#420
VoidNoodle said: Also, I highly suggest that everyone play the game if you have the PSP. Seriously, the Class Trials are frickin' sweet. Manga-style Crime Scene Event Reconstruction? SWEET AS HELL. And he is right, actually I'm affraid of ep3 because the trials's atmosphere is so... "strange" (and awesome at the same time) and particular that il will be impossible for the anime do do it perfectly. |
Jul 13, 2013 12:09 AM
#421
| ok so if i'm right about the ball thing, that would mean the person who did it has some twrowing ball skills right ? the baseball dude is my guess But i still cannot see a motive to the murder, i'm guessing it has something to do with the plates |
Jul 13, 2013 12:10 AM
#422
willardhwright said: DenjaX said: VoidNoodle said: Dude. You are getting ahead on yourself. They will be explained during the Class Trial. Don't make it to influence other's speculation.Quick explanation on the glass ball thing. I'll put it on spoilers. I hope this could add some more to your theories. :) Again, if you don't want to look at it, just don't click the spoiler. I only elaborated the evidence inside, don't worry. Comparing it to the game, investigations took more depth than the anime but only during the Class Trial will make brains crackin' with a lot of new information/evidence. It is not only Naegi who did the investigation by himself after all. Dangan is a mystery, it is meant to be solved. The problem is that it is not supposed to be some wild guessing, cluesare supposed to be there,and the anime skips some parts that are needed and turns it into a matter of luck if you are not goddamn good at this. Sometimes it's here (the numbers, the sword), sometimes it it's at all (EVERYTHING about the Janitor and how this room works). The part with the hair is another good example. Oh right! They forgot that too. Maybe the anime's really set at the lowest difficulty. I only played the game on Normal(or Gentle, w/e), and I wish I just went with Merciless on first playthrough instead. PW was harder. :( |
Jul 13, 2013 12:10 AM
#423
DenjaX said: VoidNoodle said: I am sure the studio intended to hold other evidences/investigations for the trial. I always get the impromptu feel from the trial which Naegi doesn't need all evidences so he can take all the stage. I am sure the anime watchers will feel they are also part of the trial with new evidences/investigations that will be presented during the trial which will make their brain rolling. So I would suggest you don't get ahead so you can guide these people to the truth unless they are already presented from the anime. xDDThat's the point. These are the details that the anime missed or skipped. I added it on spoiler tags just in case. So, you know, the theory-crafters could...theorize or something. I'm starting to think the anime's set to the lowest difficulty or something. -_- I agree with DenjaX, those who played the game should stay out of the solution discussions. |
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Jul 13, 2013 12:12 AM
#424
willardhwright said: VoidNoodle said: Also, I highly suggest that everyone play the game if you have the PSP. Seriously, the Class Trials are frickin' sweet. Manga-style Crime Scene Event Reconstruction? SWEET AS HELL. And he is right, actually I'm affraid of ep3 because the trials's atmosphere is so... "strange" (and awesome at the same time) and particular that il will be impossible for the anime do do it perfectly. We'd see Naegi shooting literal word-evidence bullets every time he shouts "You got that wrong!". |
Jul 13, 2013 12:12 AM
#425
willardhwright said: You think it would be a good surprise when they react to new evidence rather than expecting already? xDDDenjaX said: VoidNoodle said: Dude. You are getting ahead on yourself. They will be explained during the Class Trial. Don't make it to influence other's speculation.Quick explanation on the glass ball thing. I'll put it on spoilers. I hope this could add some more to your theories. :) Again, if you don't want to look at it, just don't click the spoiler. I only elaborated the evidence inside, don't worry. Comparing it to the game, investigations took more depth than the anime but only during the Class Trial will make brains crackin' with a lot of new information/evidence. It is not only Naegi who did the investigation by himself after all. Dangan is a mystery, it is meant to be solved. The problem is that it is not supposed to be some wild guessing, cluesare supposed to be there,and the anime skips some parts that are needed and turns it into a matter of luck if you are not goddamn good at this. Sometimes it's here (the numbers, the sword), sometimes it it's at all (EVERYTHING about the Janitor and how this room works). The part with the hair is another good example. |
Jul 13, 2013 12:13 AM
#426
MrOCD said: willardhwright said: To be honest it's really doable with the anime since this case is really easy if you keep a large view of everything. You can even guess the whole mess with Sayaka with ep1 alone. The incinerator room is the part where je anime just goddamn suck. And the sword here for self-defense, too. It wasn't exactly hard for me either. I'm only more impressed by how he/she was able to come to such a conclusion without added explanation to what evidence did what. Also, I just wanted to do a "Take That!" to, well, Gamefaqs. In fact, the entire game was relatively "easy" in comparison to the Ace Attorney games. I don't know how much I should be impressed by someone who hasn't played the game though, you got me on that. In fact, it is REALLY doable, but you need to pay a lot of attention to something most people don't care about at all: the character's psyche and their behaviour in various scenes. You can guess most suspicious parts about "this person" with this alone actually. I guess the anime is at the very least well done about this. |
Jul 13, 2013 12:14 AM
#427
AstralAxolotl said: How is "motive" even a question? The only motive anyone needs is "killing somebody is the only way to get out of here." Not in this case i dont think so, if the only motive was to get out of there the killer would have been much more careful i'm sure, this clearly has another motive other than graduating |
Jul 13, 2013 12:14 AM
#428
MrOCD said: EarlCiel said: The room swap...ah yes. And how the signs on the door to the rooms were also switched. That confuses me... All your imagination and deduction skills are going to waste! I really think you should play the game instead. Your deduction skills are so much more amazing than the peeps at GameFaqs showing off how they were able to see events happening with just a single piece of evidence and by following Japanese tropes and patterns. So god damn creative. haha, thanks, but I really am not that great at deducing ^^; At least there are a lot of people here who are doing a way better job than me. I just knew for a fact that after Sayaka's mental breakdown in episode 1, she couldn't be trusted. Just because Naegi trusts her and wants to protect her, doesn't mean she won't betray or use him. I saw her at first glance and immediately knew that she would probably be the first to snap under pressure and turn into a psychotic maniac. I'm still under the impression that you certainly shouldn't judge the characters by their looks. The sleeve, crystal ball, incinerator thing is really throwing me off, though. I'm not going to try to think too hard about it because I can only list a thousand possibilities and still not be able to guess correctly because I feel like I'm over thinking every single detail. ;____; My brain will definitely explodeif I try to think of the possibilities...which kind of seem endless. I kind of like the anime...so I think I'll be watching it instead of playing the game. The game certainly intrigues me, but something tells me I'll probably give in any try to play it...I don't know if I should. Should I watch the anime, or play the game?! I feel like I'll enjoy both experiences, so for now I'm going to exercise my patience and watch the anime. This'll be super hard. |
EarlCielJul 13, 2013 12:18 AM
Jul 13, 2013 12:16 AM
#429
VoidNoodle said: willardhwright said: DenjaX said: VoidNoodle said: Dude. You are getting ahead on yourself. They will be explained during the Class Trial. Don't make it to influence other's speculation.Quick explanation on the glass ball thing. I'll put it on spoilers. I hope this could add some more to your theories. :) Again, if you don't want to look at it, just don't click the spoiler. I only elaborated the evidence inside, don't worry. Comparing it to the game, investigations took more depth than the anime but only during the Class Trial will make brains crackin' with a lot of new information/evidence. It is not only Naegi who did the investigation by himself after all. Dangan is a mystery, it is meant to be solved. The problem is that it is not supposed to be some wild guessing, cluesare supposed to be there,and the anime skips some parts that are needed and turns it into a matter of luck if you are not goddamn good at this. Sometimes it's here (the numbers, the sword), sometimes it it's at all (EVERYTHING about the Janitor and how this room works). The part with the hair is another good example. Oh right! They forgot that too. Maybe the anime's really set at the lowest difficulty. I only played the game on Normal(or Gentle, w/e), and I wish I just went with Merciless on first playthrough instead. PW was harder. :( Haha, that's what I'm doing since logic is more or less my thing and I don't want to waste this game. It makes the trials a lot more impressive and "real" too. |
Jul 13, 2013 12:17 AM
#430
AstralAxolotl said: How is "motive" even a question? The only motive anyone needs is "killing somebody is the only way to get out of here." Motive, as in "why her and not someone else" |
Jul 13, 2013 12:17 AM
#431
| There's something I have been wondering and i guess it's unrelated to the this case but I just had to ask. Question for game player: I noticed Chihiro's VA is a guy...Is this what I think it is ? lol |
Jul 13, 2013 12:18 AM
#432
DenjaX said: willardhwright said: You think it would be a good surprise when they react to new evidence rather than expecting already? xDDDenjaX said: VoidNoodle said: Dude. You are getting ahead on yourself. They will be explained during the Class Trial. Don't make it to influence other's speculation.Quick explanation on the glass ball thing. I'll put it on spoilers. I hope this could add some more to your theories. :) Again, if you don't want to look at it, just don't click the spoiler. I only elaborated the evidence inside, don't worry. Comparing it to the game, investigations took more depth than the anime but only during the Class Trial will make brains crackin' with a lot of new information/evidence. It is not only Naegi who did the investigation by himself after all. Dangan is a mystery, it is meant to be solved. The problem is that it is not supposed to be some wild guessing, cluesare supposed to be there,and the anime skips some parts that are needed and turns it into a matter of luck if you are not goddamn good at this. Sometimes it's here (the numbers, the sword), sometimes it it's at all (EVERYTHING about the Janitor and how this room works). The part with the hair is another good example. IMO, the anime already fails to capture the "finding evidence and presenting them" vibe, since you're not really on the feet of the MC, Naegi. Anime's basically "just watch and see", because they didn't even elaborate on the evidences clearly. "Guessing who is the culprit while waiting for the next ep" is better than "pseudo-suspense by skipping critical evidences related to the murder." -_- |
Jul 13, 2013 12:19 AM
#433
zakkun89 said: There's something I have been wondering and i guess it's unrelated to the this case but I just had to ask. Question for game player: I noticed Chihiro's VA is a guy...Is this what I think it is ? lol Spoiler ahead Chihiro is a Boy :v~ the only Student that knows it is Kirigiri |
Jul 13, 2013 12:20 AM
#434
zakkun89 said: There's something I have been wondering and i guess it's unrelated to the this case but I just had to ask. Question for game player: I noticed Chihiro's VA is a guy...Is this what I think it is ? lol Answer for the CURIOUS ONLY: Maybe? Maybe not. I don't want to give a straight answer. Maaybe he's a guy. Maaaaybe she's a girl. You'll know soon. |
Jul 13, 2013 12:23 AM
#435
DenjaX said: willardhwright said: You think it would be a good surprise when they react to new evidence rather than expecting already? xDDDenjaX said: VoidNoodle said: Dude. You are getting ahead on yourself. They will be explained during the Class Trial. Don't make it to influence other's speculation.Quick explanation on the glass ball thing. I'll put it on spoilers. I hope this could add some more to your theories. :) Again, if you don't want to look at it, just don't click the spoiler. I only elaborated the evidence inside, don't worry. Comparing it to the game, investigations took more depth than the anime but only during the Class Trial will make brains crackin' with a lot of new information/evidence. It is not only Naegi who did the investigation by himself after all. Dangan is a mystery, it is meant to be solved. The problem is that it is not supposed to be some wild guessing, cluesare supposed to be there,and the anime skips some parts that are needed and turns it into a matter of luck if you are not goddamn good at this. Sometimes it's here (the numbers, the sword), sometimes it it's at all (EVERYTHING about the Janitor and how this room works). The part with the hair is another good example. New evidences are one thing. Skipping EVERYTHING when it comes to the incinerator, which is the only thing they have to erase their crimes (in the same way, not saying that the fortune teller lost his ball is just a giant red herring which will cause people to go on a path that doesn't have anything to do with the story. Hardly fair.) Some things can be skipped, but certainly not the only way the culprit has to get rid of the clues. It has to at least TRY to look fair.) |
Jul 13, 2013 12:25 AM
#436
VoidNoodle said: Oh I'm not sure about that. I am giving my hopes to the better presentation on the critical evidences during the trial which will influence people's speculation. However, we are still not certain whether or not they already failed at presenting them. We have to see what episode 3 delivers. It is not really a "watch and see" series if people who put thought a lot of this show will pause and think after the new info.IMO, the anime already fails to capture the "finding evidence and presenting them" vibe, since you're not really on the feet of the MC, Naegi. Anime's basically "just watch and see", because they didn't even elaborate on the evidences clearly. "Guessing who is the culprit while waiting for the next ep" is better than "pseudo-suspense by skipping critical evidences related to the murder." -_- |
Jul 13, 2013 12:27 AM
#437
Saito-Himea said: Chihiro is a Boy :v~ the only Student that knows it is Kirigiri Ty VoidNoodle said: Answer for the CURIOUS ONLY: Maybe? Maybe not. I don't want to give a straight answer. Maaybe he's a guy. Maaaaybe she's a girl. You'll know soon. I take it as Chihiro will be the next victim or killer with 99% victim material |
Jul 13, 2013 12:28 AM
#438
zakkun89 said: There's something I have been wondering and i guess it's unrelated to the this case but I just had to ask. Question for game player: I noticed Chihiro's VA is a guy...Is this what I think it is ? lol Yup. I actually knew it before playing the game because her game design has it written all over... uh... her face I guess? A lot more than the anime's one. The seiyuu just confirmed it. |
Jul 13, 2013 12:29 AM
#439
willardhwright said: In fact, it is REALLY doable, but you need to pay a lot of attention to something most people don't care about at all: the character's psyche and their behaviour in various scenes. You can guess most suspicious parts about "this person" with this alone actually. I guess the anime is at the very least well done about this. I'm not saying it can't be possible. Your mileage may vary, personally, I am skeptical when it comes to human behaviour. While it is indeed possible that Maizono would do this and that as she has broken out-of-character, but so do many of the other casts of which I cannot mention. It's only that Maizono was the first or rather most blatant to have broken down. Her death only confirms that is the case. The message was a pretext to tell the person to play the game as he/she seems be really into solving the cases. I felt it would be a much more satisfying experience by doing so. I quoted that person specifically because that person's theory was the most thorough I've read, or so I think. |
Jul 13, 2013 12:33 AM
#440
willardhwright said: Yup. I actually knew it before playing the game because her game design has it written all over... uh... her face I guess? A lot more than the anime's one. The seiyuu just confirmed it. Well,I will be looking forward to how other students(beside Kirigiri since she already knew as Saito mentioned) figured out about that.I hope it will be hilarious XD |
Jul 13, 2013 12:34 AM
#441
| ^Trust me you will never be disappointed. xDD willardhwright said: Fair enough. I have to see episode 3 in order to confirm my expectation. Currently, I think the studio will present them and people will talk about it and debate over it after. In other words, more dialogues or some sort.New evidences are one thing. Skipping EVERYTHING when it comes to the incinerator, which is the only thing they have to erase their crimes (in the same way, not saying that the fortune teller lost his ball is just a giant red herring which will cause people to go on a path that doesn't have anything to do with the story. Hardly fair.) Some things can be skipped, but certainly not the only way the culprit has to get rid of the clues. It has to at least TRY to look fair.) |
Jul 13, 2013 12:34 AM
#442
DenjaX said: VoidNoodle said: Oh I'm not sure about that. I am giving my hopes to the better presentation on the critical evidences during the trial which will influence people's speculation. However, we are still not certain whether or not they already failed at presenting them. We have to see what episode 3 delivers. It is not really a "watch and see" series if people who put thought a lot of this show will pause and think after the new info.IMO, the anime already fails to capture the "finding evidence and presenting them" vibe, since you're not really on the feet of the MC, Naegi. Anime's basically "just watch and see", because they didn't even elaborate on the evidences clearly. "Guessing who is the culprit while waiting for the next ep" is better than "pseudo-suspense by skipping critical evidences related to the murder." -_- A good mystery/detective anime would want the viewers to theorize on what happened after a cliffhanger murder/theft/whatever. Not once will you think of skipping evidences that are critical to the events at hand, leading viewers to falsely speculate on what happened. Granted, this is the first case, and the clues are served to you nicely in a plate and can be solved even without the incinerator information, but what about the following cases? Yeah, I know. Suspense and all that. But the anime's doing a bad job of being a detective/mystery at that. Not saying I hate it, though. Nice to see them moving and not still images. Also, Kirigiri. |
Jul 13, 2013 12:34 AM
#443
Saito-Himea said: Chihiro is a Boy :v~ the only Student that knows it is Kirigiri Kirigiri is not the only one who knows. Remember how she only realised in the first place because of someone else? |
Jul 13, 2013 12:36 AM
#444
EarlCiel said: MrOCD said: EarlCiel said: The room swap...ah yes. And how the signs on the door to the rooms were also switched. That confuses me... All your imagination and deduction skills are going to waste! I really think you should play the game instead. Your deduction skills are so much more amazing than the peeps at GameFaqs showing off how they were able to see events happening with just a single piece of evidence and by following Japanese tropes and patterns. So god damn creative. haha, thanks, but I really am not that great at deducing ^^; At least there are a lot of people here who are doing a way better job than me. I just knew for a fact that after Sayaka's mental breakdown in episode 1, she couldn't be trusted. Just because Naegi trusts her and wants to protect her, doesn't mean she won't betray or use him. I saw her at first glance and immediately knew that she would probably be the first to snap under pressure and turn into a psychotic maniac. I'm still under the impression that you certainly shouldn't judge the characters by their looks. The sleeve, crystal ball, incinerator thing is really throwing me off, though. I'm not going to try to think too hard about it because I can only list a thousand possibilities and still not be able to guess correctly because I feel like I'm over thinking every single detail. ;____; My brain will definitely explodeif I try to think of the possibilities...which kind of seem endless. I kind of like the anime...so I think I'll be watching it instead of playing the game. The game certainly intrigues me, but something tells me I'll probably give in any try to play it...I don't know if I should. Should I watch the anime, or play the game?! I feel like I'll enjoy both experiences, so for now I'm going to exercise my patience and watch the anime. This'll be super hard. No, honestly, you're pretty good. Not only on the 'being right" thing; some parts of your theory are wrong. But at least they are wrong AND there is a logic, an take the character into account or just answer to small bits. (As an example, I don't remember a lot of people saying why Maizono would open the door to someone; even if it's jut as important as the murder.) I think that you should at least try to give it a chance if you have a psp, otherwise, don't bother. The biggest problem would be that watching the anime will spoil the game and therefore you're lose a lot of its theorizing material. but it's your call. |
Jul 13, 2013 12:38 AM
#445
willardhwright said: EarlCiel said: MrOCD said: EarlCiel said: The room swap...ah yes. And how the signs on the door to the rooms were also switched. That confuses me... All your imagination and deduction skills are going to waste! I really think you should play the game instead. Your deduction skills are so much more amazing than the peeps at GameFaqs showing off how they were able to see events happening with just a single piece of evidence and by following Japanese tropes and patterns. So god damn creative. haha, thanks, but I really am not that great at deducing ^^; At least there are a lot of people here who are doing a way better job than me. I just knew for a fact that after Sayaka's mental breakdown in episode 1, she couldn't be trusted. Just because Naegi trusts her and wants to protect her, doesn't mean she won't betray or use him. I saw her at first glance and immediately knew that she would probably be the first to snap under pressure and turn into a psychotic maniac. I'm still under the impression that you certainly shouldn't judge the characters by their looks. The sleeve, crystal ball, incinerator thing is really throwing me off, though. I'm not going to try to think too hard about it because I can only list a thousand possibilities and still not be able to guess correctly because I feel like I'm over thinking every single detail. ;____; My brain will definitely explodeif I try to think of the possibilities...which kind of seem endless. I kind of like the anime...so I think I'll be watching it instead of playing the game. The game certainly intrigues me, but something tells me I'll probably give in any try to play it...I don't know if I should. Should I watch the anime, or play the game?! I feel like I'll enjoy both experiences, so for now I'm going to exercise my patience and watch the anime. This'll be super hard. No, honestly, you're pretty good. Not only on the 'being right" thing; some parts of your theory are wrong. But at least they are wrong AND there is a logic, an take the character into account or just answer to small bits. (As an example, I don't remember a lot of people saying why Maizono would open the door to someone; even if it's jut as important as the murder.) I think that you should at least try to give it a chance if you have a psp, otherwise, don't bother. The biggest problem would be that watching the anime will spoil the game and therefore you're lose a lot of its theorizing material. but it's your call. I highly agree on you playing the game. You'll miss out on the Nonstop Debates, Epiphany something, Climax, and Machinegun Talk Battle. :)) |
Jul 13, 2013 12:39 AM
#446
DenjaX said: ^Trust me you will never be disappointed. xDD willardhwright said: Fair enough. I have to see episode 3 in order to confirm my expectation. Currently, I think the studio will present them and people will talk about it and debate over it after. In other words, more dialogues or some sort.New evidences are one thing. Skipping EVERYTHING when it comes to the incinerator, which is the only thing they have to erase their crimes (in the same way, not saying that the fortune teller lost his ball is just a giant red herring which will cause people to go on a path that doesn't have anything to do with the story. Hardly fair.) Some things can be skipped, but certainly not the only way the culprit has to get rid of the clues. It has to at least TRY to look fair.) I'm quite confident about the anime too (not about the number of episodes though) and it isn't that bad for now; they just screwed up once, which happens, it isn't too bad, I just hope that it will not happen too often, but nothing is perfect. |
Jul 13, 2013 12:41 AM
#447
willardhwright said: DenjaX said: ^Trust me you will never be disappointed. xDD willardhwright said: Fair enough. I have to see episode 3 in order to confirm my expectation. Currently, I think the studio will present them and people will talk about it and debate over it after. In other words, more dialogues or some sort.New evidences are one thing. Skipping EVERYTHING when it comes to the incinerator, which is the only thing they have to erase their crimes (in the same way, not saying that the fortune teller lost his ball is just a giant red herring which will cause people to go on a path that doesn't have anything to do with the story. Hardly fair.) Some things can be skipped, but certainly not the only way the culprit has to get rid of the clues. It has to at least TRY to look fair.) I'm quite confident about the anime too (not about the number of episodes though) and it isn't that bad for now; they just screwed up once, which happens, it isn't too bad, I just hope that it will not happen too often, but nothing is perfect. I really hope they extend it to 16 or 17, something like what Bakemonogatari did. Even just a web release. I really can't see this fit in 13 episodes. Heck, the first chapter is 3 episodes long -_- |
Jul 13, 2013 12:41 AM
#448
RarityRoyale said: Saito-Himea said: Chihiro is a Boy :v~ the only Student that knows it is Kirigiri Kirigiri is not the only one who knows. Remember how she only realised in the first place because of someone else? totally forgot about her. |
Jul 13, 2013 12:41 AM
#449
| I'm surprised somebody already snapped and committed a murder so early into the game. The game creator is pretty brave to kill off these 2 female characters so early on too ,no more eye candy :< Maizuno looks like she fought for her life before dying, judging by her broken wrist and state of the room. What I don't understand is how the killer allowed her to write her dying message, and how the burnt sleeve/broken glass ball is lying around in another part of the school. Unless those evidence are meant to deceive the rest of the students, no killer in the right mind will be so careless and drop clues everywhere. |
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Jul 13, 2013 12:41 AM
#450
VoidNoodle said: skudoops said: VoidNoodle said: Watching people theorize who the culprit is is pretty fun. It's fun trying to figure it out tbh. I like shows like these because of that. The internet and message boards make these shows 10000 times more fun. It actually sucks that the first case had a BLATANT OBVIOUS clue. Seriously. PW's first case was harder. Funny enough I am almost 100% sure I know who it is because of a second watch. Although I'm still not sure if I'm right but it has to be the person I have in mind. |
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