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| Just throwing this out there, anime can have realistic designs without looking like this. Anime can have moe/cuter designs and still have a great story to tell. Anime can have realistic designs and still not be unique and captivating and wonderful and creative. Different /=/ good. |
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For all you butthurt people. You went right into his predictions. I hope Nagahama enjoys his abysmal sales. He's just as much as an attention hoe as Yamakan. I wonder whether in the coming weeks this anime will gain notoriety or fall to obscurity. I hope the first, if only because incomprehensible anger seems to be just punishment to those who feel it. Well, I'm hoping for the latter to make a point for people who try to do the same stunt in the future. |
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Yusa-pyan said: i feel like this anime is making fun of us humans... spending more time on the background than the actual people graphics... unless they're trying to tell me that bad animations means something philosophical. What I got from the summary: HI i stole someone's gym clothes, why did i ju- im a pervert. What I got from the anime: "Thighs that aren't thick aren't thights at all" WTF????? You should read the manga babe, read the first couple of chapters and you will understand. |
| The creepiest series I've ever seen. Not creepy as in horror, but something else. The ending song really affirmed that as well =/ The only thing that interested me was the realistic character design and art. Made it through the first episode, but I'm a little scared to think of what future episodes (without introductions) will contain, since it's such a serious anime... 2/5. |
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| I like it there I said it |
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Orsonius said: http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=4622098&postcount=169 here translated statement of the director and mangaka about the anime. For all you butthurt people. You went right into his predictions. So basically...it's saying it'll draw people towards the manga who don't like the anime. And the anime was not made with their fans in mind. They don't care if the majority don't like it or dismiss it bc they are going for "impact". If the impact if positive or negative is of no consequence. Well mission accomplished then? Like I said, they'll sleep soundly. |
Orix said: For all you butthurt people. You went right into his predictions. I hope Nagahama enjoys his abysmal sales. He's just as much as an attention hoe as Yamakan. what abysmal sales? it's relatively well liked at 2ch. Try to live in THIS world please |
| In 9/10 cases, the worst thing about an anime is its fandom. |
| I don't understand why the animation is much of an issue here, but whatever. I'll enjoy the story for what it is. As for the first episode, kind of a slow start, but the ending was interesting enough for me to stick around. 3/5 |
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IZEROII said: Orsonius said: http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=4622098&postcount=169 here translated statement of the director and mangaka about the anime. For all you butthurt people. You went right into his predictions. So basically...it's saying it'll draw people towards the manga who don't like the anime. And the anime was not made with their fans in mind. They don't care if the majority don't like it or dismiss it bc they are going for "impact". If the impact if positive or negative is of no consequence. Well mission accomplished then? Like I said, they'll sleep soundly. Some things are more important, than having everyone love you |
| In 9/10 cases, the worst thing about an anime is its fandom. |
Nucksen said: IZEROII said: Orsonius said: http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=4622098&postcount=169 here translated statement of the director and mangaka about the anime. For all you butthurt people. You went right into his predictions. So basically...it's saying it'll draw people towards the manga who don't like the anime. And the anime was not made with their fans in mind. They don't care if the majority don't like it or dismiss it bc they are going for "impact". If the impact if positive or negative is of no consequence. Well mission accomplished then? Like I said, they'll sleep soundly. Some things are more important, than having everyone love you I concur. However, in this incidence I fail to see what those things that are more important are... |
| 1/5 dropped. Thanks for f*cking up one of my favorite manga. |
| "I left everything I own in One Piece" ~ Gol D. Roger |
Orsonius said: All this tells me is he wanted it as a live drama but couldn't get it, so he turned the anime into a live drama. http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=4622098&postcount=169 here translated statement of the director and mangaka about the anime. For all you butthurt people. You went right into his predictions. The result? Hilarity. |
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Yvese said: Orsonius said: All this tells me is he wanted it as a live drama but couldn't get it, so he turned the anime into a live drama. http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=4622098&postcount=169 here translated statement of the director and mangaka about the anime. For all you butthurt people. You went right into his predictions. The result? Hilarity. Your comment tells me, that you only see, what you want to see. |
| In 9/10 cases, the worst thing about an anime is its fandom. |
| i read the manga and though it as weird that they didn't really look like the characters, i still liked it, it as pretty realistic and the backgrounds are beautiful |
EdenBaggins said: dietmango said: jal90 said: I don't know guys because I didn't watch the episode nor read the manga, but judging from the images posted here, what does make them look more real? The lack of a nose or the incompletely drawn eyelashes? Aside from that, go on with the discussion, it's funny. Because it's not moe enough. And yes, it's funny. "WHY U NO LIKE THE ART, IT'S EDGY, IT'S DIFFERENT, YOU WANTED MOE" That argument is getting kinda annoying Believe me, no one here was expecting any kind of moe from Aku no Hana. Just because I disliked the art does not mean I would have prefered Nakamura to turn into a moeblob. I don't have to like it because you did, you don't have to dislike it because I did. Some love, Some hate. GET OVER IT! Lol whoa whoa chill out. Yes, I'm aware people didn't come here for moe, but the fact that people are flipping their shit over how they "ruined the art" and are slamming this show hard because of it is amusing. Personally I didn't see it nor do I plan to, but reading some of the comments here makes me think oh I don't know, the backlash feels it got out of hand? It's great that people who are disappointed about the differences between this and the manga are expressing their feelings about it for valid reasons (rotoscoping and all that shit, right?). That just says that people care about the source material. And then there's the rest of MAL who don't really have anything decent to say, and then I laugh. So tell me, is the current average MAL rating on this show justified, then? Because I'd like to know. |
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Yvese said: Orsonius said: All this tells me is he wanted it as a live drama but couldn't get it, so he turned the anime into a live drama. http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=4622098&postcount=169 here translated statement of the director and mangaka about the anime. For all you butthurt people. You went right into his predictions. The result? Hilarity. +1 I forgot to mention that. amginex said: preferences man, to each his own besides, dont they say "there is no such thing as a bad press"? just look at this thread I agree. Which is why I haven't insulted any individual for liking this show or rather it's art. Unlike some of the proponents. But, I do disagree. There is bad press. While press good or bad brings attention to something, the final impression is what matters. In this case, that impression is more bad than good. |
| I can't watch this anymore. Even if it has a good story, the reason for having an anime is bringing the mangaka's work to life. Although in this case it's been taken a little too literally. Shame. |
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| Whoa, was not expecting that. Not sure whether to be amazed or disappointed. It's like they filmed real people and then just filled in the outlines using computer tracking. (Oh, so that's called rotoscoping then.) There were some points where it wouldn't have hurt to dramatize it a bit though. And I'm loving the ambient soundtrack coupled with the weird OP and ED. |
AlphonzApr 5, 2013 7:39 PM
| I wish moderators would lock this thread. How can multiple flame wars in a an episode thread be a legitimate discussion here? People have come to the point where they're calling each other 2deep4u hipsters or shallow moe fanatics just for liking or disliking this episode. |
AedrisiaApr 5, 2013 6:52 PM
Higashi_no_Kaze said: Is the reception in Japan as bad as here on MAL? My japanese isn't perfect, but i scanned over 2ch and it isn't. There are some people, who behave like the guys in here, but to most, this show seems just OK, but not bad |
| In 9/10 cases, the worst thing about an anime is its fandom. |
Nucksen said: Take your own advice.Yvese said: Orsonius said: All this tells me is he wanted it as a live drama but couldn't get it, so he turned the anime into a live drama. http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=4622098&postcount=169 here translated statement of the director and mangaka about the anime. For all you butthurt people. You went right into his predictions. The result? Hilarity. Your comment tells me, that you only see, what you want to see. My eyes told me everything I needed to know: that the Rotoscoping is horribly done. Heck, the first ever Rotoscoping by Max and Dave Fleischer almost A CENTURY ago was done better than the crap seen in this show. |
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| What a great example of artistic inspiration and novelty. /masochist mode |
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Sovietcong said: I can't watch this anymore. Even if it has a good story, the reason for having an anime is bringing the mangaka's work to life. Although in this case it's been taken a little too literally. Shame. Sadly most do forget this very fact. But since the author approved of this style himself, this point unfortunately falls on deaf ears. And (arguably) rightly so. Doesn't change the fact that it will turn away more people than it gathers. Again, I turn to this comment. RMNDolphy said: You guys know this isn't a horror story, right? That 'ominous' atmosphere is completely inappropriate for the events taking place. Kasuga's life is fairly easy-going right now, so discordant, ominous drones are incongruous if anything. The problem isn't simply that the animation is different, it's horribly executed as well. Look at Trapeze, Mind Game, or the performance scenes in Kids on the Slope to see rotoscoping done well. This is outright lazy in comparison. When you have facial features phasing in and out of existence, there's a serious problem. When the characters are perpetually and inhumanly fidgety and awkward in motion, there's a serious problem. When the frames-per-second is as atrocious as it is here, you have a serious, serious problem. The entire point of rotoscoping is to achieve something closer to real life, but when done as poorly as it is here, you just end up in the deepest part of uncanny valley. "Different" isn't always better. I'd also like to remind everyone that they only covered 18 pages in this episode... Slow pacing can be used to achieve great things, but Aku no Hana certainly doesn't. At the end of this episode, the audience still knows very little of what makes any of these characters tick. All the episode accomplishes is an ill-suited atmosphere and an abysmal art direction. This episode was poorly executed in every respect. PS I'm not even a fan of the manga. This shit is inexcusable no matter what angle you approach it from. |
Yvese said: Orsonius said: All this tells me is he wanted it as a live drama but couldn't get it, so he turned the anime into a live drama. http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=4622098&postcount=169 here translated statement of the director and mangaka about the anime. For all you butthurt people. You went right into his predictions. The result? Hilarity. Exactly, this would have been better as a live-action. The uncanny valley affect just affects this series way too much. |
| My eyes hurt from the lack of detail in character designs. I liked the animation, the actual designs were okay. The lack of detail in the characters though. My eyes they cry they beg for mercy please.. |
| the art difference of the manga version and the anime version is like night and day. |
| save all the cute girls from ntr manga |
dietmango said: EdenBaggins said: dietmango said: jal90 said: I don't know guys because I didn't watch the episode nor read the manga, but judging from the images posted here, what does make them look more real? The lack of a nose or the incompletely drawn eyelashes? Aside from that, go on with the discussion, it's funny. Because it's not moe enough. And yes, it's funny. "WHY U NO LIKE THE ART, IT'S EDGY, IT'S DIFFERENT, YOU WANTED MOE" That argument is getting kinda annoying Believe me, no one here was expecting any kind of moe from Aku no Hana. Just because I disliked the art does not mean I would have prefered Nakamura to turn into a moeblob. I don't have to like it because you did, you don't have to dislike it because I did. Some love, Some hate. GET OVER IT! Lol whoa whoa chill out. Yes, I'm aware people didn't come here for moe, but the fact that people are flipping their shit over how they "ruined the art" and are slamming this show hard because of it is amusing. Personally I didn't see it nor do I plan to, but reading some of the comments here makes me think oh I don't know, the backlash feels it got out of hand? It's great that people who are disappointed about the differences between this and the manga are expressing their feelings about it for valid reasons (rotoscoping and all that shit, right?). That just says that people care about the source material. And then there's the rest of MAL who don't really have anything decent to say, and then I laugh. So tell me, is the current average MAL rating on this show justified, then? Because I'd like to know. As I said before, it isn't. Ignore the animation and there's no way AnH deserves 4.68. Boku no Pico: 5.93 Aku no Hana: 4.80 People on MAL seem to enjoy rating an anime after only seeing one episode. |
| Holy fuck the chicks, fuck. Good thing I didn't even start this. |
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EdenBaggins said: As I said before, it isn't. Ignore the animation and there's no way AnH deserves 4.68. Boku no Pico: 5.93 Aku no Hana: 4.80 People on MAL seem to enjoy rating an anime after only seeing one episode. Thats the point, the people who rate it low are not ignoring the animation. If for example, going by the first episode(and only the first episode) : Story : 6 Characters : 5 OST : 7 Animation : 1 We get a 4.75 on average. |
Comandante said: I just finished watching the episode, and I have to say that I quite like it. The art was pretty quaint, in my opinion, and the ED song was just plain glorious. It saddens me that it has become this popular to speak ill of it, just because it dares to differ from the clichéd moe-shows of today. I havent read the manga, and I do not find the pilot episode enough to be able to judge the plot, but it has at least caught my interest. Also, the majority of the people in this thread are bloody bandwagoners who dare not see beyond the applied boundaries of the medium. Did you even bother reading why people dislike the animation or the anime itself? Calling everybody who disagrees with you a 'bandwagoner' is such a shitty and clichéd response. |
| Hmm... I was looking forward to the adaption, but I'm kind of disappointed about the animation. It doesn't even feel like an anime. Well, I'm gonna at least try and look past it, gonna be hard, especially since it isn't what I'm used to. At least the flow of the story isn't too bad and it follows the manga good enough. The opening sequence kind of feels out of place though... and I guess the ending captures the psychological portion of the series and fits to some degree. Overall, I guess I'll give this another chance. Animation wise, that is the most major problem for me; it being so different and all. |
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| its like seeing a normal japanese teen in his everyday life without the cute characters, and the big breasted girls, with big eyes definitely loving aku no hana the only letdown was that the manga's art was misleading |
| save all the cute girls from ntr manga |
| OooKayyy!! To make it short, this rotoscope style makes it so difficult for me to continue. Not really to my taste. |
AkagatariApr 6, 2013 11:19 AM
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Soulstrider said: And this reactions is why I hate the anime fandom. People try to do something different and it gets this treatment. Lol what an idiot, thinking he's all cool, accepting this anime. People try to do something different ? So you think by doing something unique makes it good ? Makes it acceptable ? Doing rotoscope animation might be unique , but can you consider it to be better than the usual animation ? No, being unique doesn't mean that it will be good. In conclusion, you want us to accept it because its different , instead of disliking it eventhough its bad, do you need good examples of good rotoscope animations ? Oh wow, think before you fucking post. /smh Anime fandom is turning into shit because of garbages like you. |
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| Did you guys read the review by AmaneSuzuha2036? I thought it was pretty accurate. |
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edl01 said: This show...is worse than Boku No Pico. I hated this adaptation but it's not THAT bad. I would rather watch shitty rotoscope than watch pedos. |
| What was ZEXCS doing in this adaptation! |
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Tommk said: THANK YOUSoulstrider said: And this reactions is why I hate the anime fandom. People try to do something different and it gets this treatment. Lol what an idiot, thinking he's all cool, accepting this anime. People try to do something different ? So you think by doing something unique makes it good ? Makes it acceptable ? Doing rotoscope animation might be unique , but can you consider it to be better than the usual animation ? No, being unique doesn't mean that it will be good. In conclusion, you want us to accept it because its different , instead of disliking it eventhough its bad, do you need good examples of good rotoscope animations ? Oh wow, think before you fucking post. /smh Anime fandom is turning into shit because of garbages like you. |
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Tommk said: Ok i'm off from this thread, where hipsters will come pouring in /inb4 they start bitching how this is fking good, and people dont know how to appreciate it. bye little troll |
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