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| The explanation was bad..... The only thing good of this chapter was the reunion of Tobi and Madara... |
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| I kind of expected more from the chapter...and looks like the obito madara chapter is falling into place but I wanted more from this chapter |
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Shaduge said: Kishimoto proved in the last chapter that he has no idea about the timeline. we haven't got any explanation about the timeline yet idiot.and since madara joined in i'm sure we're gonna get a flashback about madara plotting this or something to make the timeline make sense.Stop being stupid and wait until we get the full explanation |
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| "You let Rin die. So I'm going to mess up the world." Pretty close to "I got friendzoned, so I'm going to mess up the world". The latter wouldve been better development. This is just crap. |
Kanic said: Just to make sth clear: the question is "how come until now...blah blah" to which the answer is cuz you let rin die. Rin is not the reason for the war. How about you pay a bit more attention before you start your nonsensical hating yet again Pero said: I don't get this thread. Everyone is jumping the gun and saying Obito wants to get revenge and destroy the world because of Rin. Where is the destroying here? In his eyes he's rebuilding it into something better. Him saying there's no point placing blames tells more of a disappointment than raw anger. It is way to early to tell if he's a misunderstood villain or just completely crazy. ^ These two answer everyone's meaningless complaints. And,about the timeline,like renders said:there hasn't been an explanation yet,so wait for it. |
Shaduge said: renders said: Shaduge said: Kishimoto proved in the last chapter that he has no idea about the timeline. we haven't got any explanation about the timeline yet idiot.and since madara joined in i'm sure we're gonna get a flashback about madara plotting this or something to make the timeline make sense.Stop being stupid and wait until we get the full explanation I'm talking about the graduation moron, use your brain or just shut up who gives a damn about the graduation retard? |
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| I can't believe that something that I thought about when I heard about Tobi=Obito theory - that Obito is going to atke a revenge on people because Rin who he loved has died. I mean... Seriously? It would be most cliche thing in this story... This is something that 12-years old girl thought about years ago, man. I hope it's going to get more interesting. Now I wouldn't be surprised if Rin would come back alive and turn Obito back into goood and clumsy shinobi. God, no. |
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| lolwut. Kishi isn't even going to take the time to explain shit? Tobi is Obito THE END. Wow. |
| now its confirmed,its him,and i HATE IT. months ago i was sure its him, but i hate the fact i was right,its a messed up and idiot way,i dunno what he will bring out by this -.- one thing is for sure,uchiha are stupid and the root of evil,kill them all!!!!! (sorry itachi,u were actually a good guy,but NONE else) kaitonic said: The end seems to be pretty near.Mostly all the actors are present just missing Sasuke,Orochimaru and all others but is Sasuke will be an ally or an ennemy its not near at all,kishi plans to write it till 1,5 year more -.- Uchihafan25 said: WTF IS GOING ON?! Is Obito really gonna send the world to hell just because his bitch died?! And how does Madara freakin know Obito?! same here...confusing |
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| The worst offense about this is that Obito was basically the only down-to-earth, nice guy Uchiha in the series. A personality more like Naruto's than the usual arrogant, gloomy type to be found in most of the Uchiha. But now, he's even worse than Sasuke, and I can't believe I'm saying that. He wants to destroy the world because Kakashi let Rin die? What a terrible reason. Even Sasuke has more of a reason to be pissed; his whole fucking clan was wiped out. I'm so pissed off. |
| This was disappointing. I wanted a flashback and I got one but it wasn't the one I wanted. rather than tell us how Obito managed to give Pain the Rinnegan, control the Mizukage, recover from fatal injuries and fight Minato equally we got a retelling of his "Death" which I could already read by standing up and walking the 10 feet to my bookcase and picking up volume 27 from the shelf. so what can the group possibly do against Obito and Madara when they could barely scratch Obito by himself. I'm thinking Sasuke's redemption is coming up by helping them. |
| this thread has become let's bitch about kishi's work,because we are all critics and we could do such a better job |
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| Dear people, do you fucking mind waiting for some chapters and then bitch about Kishi? we still don't know anything besides that Obito didnt say who he is because Kakashi let Rin die (? im guessing thats what he meant).Give Kishi a chance ._. I understand he put too much flashbacks etc, but theres no need to insult him or say ''Fuck you'' before we know EVERYTHING. |
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| As everyone else i'm not happy with the results of this chapter yet i'm surprised how peoples are predicting the whole reason of war and want kishi to explain everything in only 17 pages. I wonder if it's really difficult to wait and give him sometime to explain the whole back story of Obito and once you get the official statement then come and complain about it. |
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| Wow i guess the whole "year in a half" more of material is incorrect now? He just stated that "this is the climax of the story" meaning the entire story. I sure hope the konoho 11 get involved though, it seems like he is rushing this story to its end a little to quickly. But then again this "climax" can still mean another 30 to 40 chapters, who knows. Did any one else notice that obito says "you can call me what you want to" what do you think that means? I believe now that he is obito, but its still questionable with that statement alone. Or he could possibly just mean that, the reality he came from is immaterial to him right now and all that matters is his plans for world domination. Either way kishi better explain exactly why he became such a villain and a threat to the world, if this whole theory is based just on the fact that kakashi got rin killed, i would will be kind of dissapointed. Their has to be more to it then that. I think people are dogging kishi because the fact that he mentioned that the story is at its climax, it kind of has everyone on edge. |
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| If it is not a Kakashi's nightmare, I say : Congratulation for the Obito theorists ! |
amenboy972 said: If it is not a Kakashi's nightmare, I say : Congratulation for the Obito theorists ! More like, Congrats for kishi for being as dumb as they are >.< |
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iizaninja said: I find it funny that obito once said 'those who abandon their friends are worse than scum' and yet here he is fighting the people who cared for him the most, his friends.. Yeah thats the same thing i though of as well. |
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| So does this mean Tobi is a time traveler? |
| Leave it to Kishi to disappoint us, he never fails. |
Kanic said: Just to make sth clear: the question is "how come until now...blah blah" to which the answer is cuz you let rin die. Rin is not the reason for the war. How about you pay a bit more attention before you start your nonsensical hating yet again Currently in this chapter rin's death is the reason behind why obito wen't rogue, thus starting his world domination, and the 4th shinobi world war, if you can't see that then clearly your not paying attention you self. But i would like to hope for all that is good in kishimoto that their is another deeper reason behind this. |
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Pero said: I don't get this thread. Everyone is jumping the gun and saying Obito wants to get revenge and destroy the world because of Rin. Where is the destroying here? In his eyes he's rebuilding it into something better. Him saying there's no point placing blames tells more of a disappointment than raw anger. It is way to early to tell if he's a misunderstood villain or just completely crazy. Yes maybe his sole intention is to recreate the world into his own ideal peaceful world, but causing wars, killing everyone including his friends, goes against everything bout what obito believed in. The large question here is, "what caused him to change so much" |
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| well, this was ok. I hoped for more than recaps, and more than the generic lost-love revenge, but whatever.. it's not a big deal. I'm a little happy that Madara's appeared since obv Obito and he are acquainted. But what does this mean for the fate of the five kages? ..I hope they're all still alive :/ On the other side though, Madara and Obito in one spot just means fucking Sasuke's going to be there too soon enough.. with Orochimaru, Juugo and Suigetsu in tow. Once all the talking's through (IF it happens before any fighting's done), Naru, Bee, Gai, and Kakashi aren't gonna be enough to fight them all. So. I wonder at what point all the backup will get there, now that everyone doesn't have to worry about sealing anymore. link9us said: Wow i guess the whole "year in a half" more of material is incorrect now? He just stated that "this is the climax of the story" meaning the entire story. I sure hope the konoho 11 get involved though, it seems like he is rushing this story to its end a little to quickly. But then again this "climax" can still mean another 30 to 40 chapters, who knows. Did any one else notice that obito says "you can call me what you want to" what do you think that means? I believe now that he is obito, but its still questionable with that statement alone. Or he could possibly just mean that, the reality he came from is immaterial to him right now and all that matters is his plans for world domination. Either way kishi better explain exactly why he became such a villain and a threat to the world, if this whole theory is based just on the fact that kakashi got rin killed, i would will be kind of dissapointed. Their has to be more to it then that. I'm willing to bet that there's closer to 100 chapters left, if not more. We're at the climax, but the climax will last for a while still, and after that there's still the falling action and resolution.. so there's still a ways to go imo. I did notice that, and I think it may just be him detaching his self from his past like you said. x5exotic said: amenboy972 said: If it is not a Kakashi's nightmare, I say : Congratulation for the Obito theorists ! More like, Congrats for kishi for being as dumb as they are >.< u mad? |
| Shocking chapter. I can't judge before hearing about the alliance Madara & Obito. I don't think we know the whole story about Madara's rebellion. Or I don't remember it. Maybe Obi-Tobi is part of Madara's plan. I don't know, I really want to know what happened to Rin, but I hope she is not the reason for Obito turning Tobi. |
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| TOTALY EPIC MANDARA COMES!!! |
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| I personally think that people are jumping to conclusions way to fast, just because of one chapter. I am sure kishi does intend for this manga to continue for another month or so and then end. Their is just way to many open plot threads that need resolved, what happen to the hokage's, what is madara's and obito relationship?, what are the exact reasons for how obito obtained such power in such a short time frame. Also for god sakes, this is turning out to be a kakashi story now. What bout are star player, "naruto" what part and role does he play in all of this, I am certain he has a much larger role or connection of some sort that has not been revealed yet to these characters, obito, or madara and im sure these answers will come onces orichamaru and sasuske make it to the battlefield. In the interview he also stated that all of the favorite characters will shine brightly which means that most of the konoho 11 that are on thier way are going to take some part in this battle as well. Also the mystery behind the scroll, orichmaru and his relationship to tobi and what is sasuske gong to do once he reaches the battlefield, so many unexplained things and their is just no way he can finish all of that in a matter of a month or 2. He also mentioned in an interview that when sasuske arrives on the battle, something great is going to happen, so thats indication of a major event coming up. But in the case of a series that has been going for 15 years. I think when he says the story is approaching its climax. He is probably just referring to the fact that its just on its last year of publication. |
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| All this because of Rin's death?Are we serious?... Anyway from what he said "you can call me obito if you want blah blah" i thought that maybe he is not Obito!But since Rin's death mentioned... |
| This world...is rotten |
| I belive there is two Tobis. Madara and Obito. That would explain everything expect how Madara can be dead and alive at the same time. Both Kisame, itachi and Minato have confirmed his existence so he must have been there the whole time. |
| Should have seen this motive coming. Rin was one of the only things we do not know about. |
| I agree with (as far as we know) Obito's motive being just because of Rin being dumb. I was really hoping it was for some intricate and amazing reason to make someone who was a goofball and so nice to turn evil just because of Rin. It just doesn't make sense to me. Kakashi was his friend too, and Minato was his mentor. He could turn so easily on them just for Rin? He seem to care just as much about Kakashi in that battle. It just seems stupid. What's even dumber than that is how a flash back of something we've seen already was thrown in. I can understand in an episode but it's annoying in a 17 page chapter. |
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| Obito, bro, I know the friendzone hurts, but build a bridge and get over it. You're a grown ass man! Shit. Look at all the things Tobi has done, and then realize that Kishi is trying to tell you that this is because of a love triangle that happened between 12-15 year olds. I'm also tired of Kishi using women as token minorities or plot devices. Some of the most 2D characters in manga come from him. ...The Tobi/Madara team up looks a little promising, at least. I have to find a positive somewhere. |
| That's crazy how Obito is doing this all over Rin. And then Madara shows up at the end which makes things even crazier. |
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| Somehow I just knew he was doing everything because of Rin. It didn't even surprised me. But srsly, I want someone to explain to me how Rin dies, because now i'm curious. That and how the heck did Obito, the pussy, turn into this psycho? please. OH, and the last part with Madara, I just.. I think they're fucked. Hopefully the kages will appeared and give them a hand? But welll, it's not how I imagined it would be, but it is interesting, at least for me. I liked it. |
| Too long flashback. I still remember the Kakashi gaiden so it got boring. Anyways, Madara and Obito will join forces. Whoo! Mappek said: I'm not complaining about his reasons, but Kishi make Rin at least somewhat relevant and NO DON'T MAKE HER AN UZUMAKI OR AN UCHIHA, just a fresh backstory please. Yeah, I second this. |
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| Some great shots of Kakashi's serious face this week! |
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| they said it! the story is coming to the final conclusion!!! i can't wait this is going to be epic, but without naruto, the world will feel a little empty |
emanime said: Too long flashback. I still remember the Kakashi gaiden so it got boring. I actually completely forgot about the whole thing, which is why I couldn't even understand why everybody was thinking it was Obito xD Name didn't even sound familiar to me anymore. |
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| nothing to say, but, 5/5. |
Nichibotsu-kaeru said: they said it! the story is coming to the final conclusion!!! i can't wait this is going to be epic, but without naruto, the world will feel a little empty Their will be more series, or spin offs or something in the future im sure. Naruto is not going to die just because the manga comes to an end. It is widely popular like DBZ so you can only expect more series or maybe even more sequels to the original manga. |
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