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Jun 7, 2012 8:28 AM

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ssjokg said:
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ssjokg ...

seriously ; don't tell me that Airi talk is not boring !!! unlike keirie and Gil

discussion .. it's Very enjoyable and interesting

if FZ was like this:
Kirei:What is Emiya Kiritsugu's wish?
Iri:To save the world
Kirei:Okey.Thank you.Die.

Then I doubt it would have the fans it has.And please decide already.You want characters to express what they think/do or to be mute so that you can ask what the hell is happening in the series.


Bffff... your reply does not make sense

anyway ... everyone has his opinion about a character ... and i just found Airi

boring


You know what makes no sense?
People like you that consider the dialogue boring and then storm the threads with question after question for every little thing that you could find out by yourself just by PAYING attention and think about it a bit.Asking if things could happen any other way(other people) is different from asking what the hell is going on(you).

In a series that every char more or less does the same thing every ep(Kirei is lost,Kariya is in pain,Kiritsugu points his gun to someone,Gil more or less says to Kirei the same things over and over again ,etc) you found only Iri "boring"....At least give a reason that wont make me reply like this ever again.

Rejoice.There will be some not so "boring" scenes in the next eps.


I'll tell you why i'm saying that Iri is boring

she is a main char in this anime ....but not different from the other char in the other anime ... , you know ... she is so nice ,naive ,she do every thing for kiritsugu without thinking ... even that she has not understand his ideals

Naive?You do realize that Iri follows Kiritsugu for her daughter's sake right?She understands his ideal but at the same time she hasnt felt the same pain he had(probably) so most of his feeling are unkown for her.She hopes she wont feel them by letting Ilya follow her fate.It's funny you consider her boring with only like 4 big dialogues(one with Kirei and probably 2 with Kiritsugu) in 22 eps.God, she even had some action scenes with Kirei.

I wont comment on how "traditional" Kiritsugu(destroy evil with evil) or Rider(conqueror of hearts) are.Or the lost+sadist Kirei.

Gil is probaly the exception since I dont really rememeber other "charming" villains like him at the moment.

Then if you like dialogues in FZ let every char have his/her moments.


ah ... you know man , its seems that everybody adore her except me ~.~

about that : " Kiritsugu(destroy evil with evil)" : i dont agree with you but i think
that kiritsugu try to do the necessary and sacrifice his friends Whatever it was hard for him and that's not evil .

can you give me an example for a char like kiritsugu ?
Jun 7, 2012 8:30 AM

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loub31 said:

about that : " Kiritsugu(destroy evil with evil)" : i dont agree with you but i think
that kiritsugu try to do the necessary and sacrifice his friends Whatever it was hard for him and that's not evil .

can you give me an example for a char like kiritsugu ?


You are kidding right?
Jun 7, 2012 8:37 AM

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loub31 said:

about that : " Kiritsugu(destroy evil with evil)" : i dont agree with you but i think
that kiritsugu try to do the necessary and sacrifice his friends Whatever it was hard for him and that's not evil .

can you give me an example for a char like kiritsugu ?

That's where tvtropes comes in handy!
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NecessarilyEvil
All your examples nicely listed. WARNING: Link leads to tvtropes. I'm not responsible for hours of lost time.
Jun 7, 2012 8:38 AM

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no ... i'm serious ... did i say something strange ?!!
Jun 7, 2012 9:28 AM

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PlotExMachina said:
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Hmm.. No preview pictures out yet? Weird.

Come on Static91, do your tricks!!

Just checked on Dengeki. Still no preview pics as of now...I'm getting worried.


How do people get preview images in the first place?
Do they get to see the episode ahead of time?
Jun 7, 2012 9:56 AM
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sallym613 said:
PlotExMachina said:
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stAtic91 said:
Hmm.. No preview pictures out yet? Weird.

Come on Static91, do your tricks!!

Just checked on Dengeki. Still no preview pics as of now...I'm getting worried.


How do people get preview images in the first place?
Do they get to see the episode ahead of time?


Lol, I wish I could do that =))
They're posted on Dengeki every Wednesday night...except for this week.
Jun 7, 2012 10:02 AM

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PlotExMachina said:
sallym613 said:
PlotExMachina said:
ssjokg said:
stAtic91 said:
Hmm.. No preview pictures out yet? Weird.

Come on Static91, do your tricks!!

Just checked on Dengeki. Still no preview pics as of now...I'm getting worried.


How do people get preview images in the first place?
Do they get to see the episode ahead of time?


Lol, I wish I could do that =))
They're posted on Dengeki every Wednesday night...except for this week.

I think they take it from http://www.fate-zero.jp/ since in their news they have the same pics
Jun 7, 2012 10:15 AM
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ssjokg said:
PlotExMachina said:
sallym613 said:
PlotExMachina said:
ssjokg said:
stAtic91 said:
Hmm.. No preview pictures out yet? Weird.

Come on Static91, do your tricks!!

Just checked on Dengeki. Still no preview pics as of now...I'm getting worried.


How do people get preview images in the first place?
Do they get to see the episode ahead of time?


Lol, I wish I could do that =))
They're posted on Dengeki every Wednesday night...except for this week.

I think they take it from http://www.fate-zero.jp/ since in their news they have the same pics

Nah, the main site doesn't update until, like, Saturday and its pics are too small (but it adds the synopsis as well).
http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/490/490404/
I've been F5-ing this place since 6pm yesterday, still no dice =))
Jun 7, 2012 11:43 AM

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I just hope the episode airs this week. I really don't want to wait another week.
Jun 7, 2012 12:00 PM

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Ragna92 said:
I just hope the episode airs this week. I really don't want to wait another week.

Not looking too likely at this point though.
Jun 7, 2012 12:33 PM
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loub31 said:
no ... i'm serious ... did i say something strange ?!!
The TV Tropes link is genuine you know. It's a user-collected list of Tropes. You'll find plenty of characters who follow the "Necessary Evil" mantra there. In fact, you'll find plenty of every example of trope in existence. Kiritsugu is not some unique existence in literature history... and I don't think anyone would expect him to since there's nothing original anymore. What we write now is built upon thousands of years of literature and stories.

Jun 8, 2012 3:44 AM

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ssjokg said:
http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/494/494545/

Ohhh yeaaaah


soooo, they posted it a bit too late but does that still mean it's going to be aired tomorrow or could it be after-tomorrow?
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Jun 8, 2012 3:58 AM

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TheWitcher said:
ssjokg said:
http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/494/494545/

Ohhh yeaaaah


soooo, they posted it a bit too late but does that still mean it's going to be aired tomorrow or could it be after-tomorrow?


Tokyo MX and niconico will probably air it tomorrow.
Jun 8, 2012 4:20 AM

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ssjokg said:
http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/494/494545/

Ohhh yeaaaah
My body is ready.

Just going to do the usual "Next episode preview pictures":

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Awesome!
That means there's stuff to watch this weekend.
As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all.
Jun 8, 2012 8:03 AM

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BloodRequiem said:
Awesome!
That means there's stuff to watch this weekend.

Lol, because otherwise there be nothing, nothing at all.
Jun 8, 2012 8:04 AM

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ataraxial said:
BloodRequiem said:
Awesome!
That means there's stuff to watch this weekend.

Lol, because otherwise there be nothing, nothing at all.


This summer's gonna be worse.
Backlog time.
As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all.
Jun 8, 2012 8:27 AM

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Jun 8, 2012 8:36 AM

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ssjokg said:
dont forget the wait for the second box set...
Yeah, I'm going to have to rewatch the TV version at least once while waiting for the 2nd BD Box.
Jun 8, 2012 9:03 AM

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stAtic91 said:
ssjokg said:
http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/494/494545/

Ohhh yeaaaah
My body is ready.

Just going to do the usual "Next episode preview pictures":



YES! Just when I had lost all hope.
Jun 8, 2012 9:33 AM

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my body's not prepared for the next 2 episodes: apparently the best team is working on it for the best quality
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Jun 8, 2012 9:57 AM

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ssjokg said:
http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/494/494545/

Ohhh yeaaaah
BERSERKER TIME! Now I see the oh yeah reaction aright.

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Jun 8, 2012 1:03 PM
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my body's not prepared for the next 2 episodes: apparently the best team is working on it for the best quality
Let's hope they pull out no stops because it's going to be rush valley.

Jun 8, 2012 2:16 PM

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Sweet, and here I was wondering if the next episode should be aired by tomorrow, can't wait to see more of Saber and Iri tomorrow :D
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Jun 8, 2012 2:22 PM

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Irisviel was on her way out anyways. Kirei just made it more painful and shorter. It killed me inside seeing Grandpa bein so nice to Waver TT_TT
WUT A NICE GUY
Hope he doesnt die. Waver is pretty much the only master who isnt an asshole l
Jun 8, 2012 2:31 PM

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Irisviel was on her way out anyways. Kirei just made it more painful and shorter. It killed me inside seeing Grandpa bein so nice to Waver TT_TT
WUT A NICE GUY
Hope he doesnt die. Waver is pretty much the only master who isnt an asshole l


"more painful"
it was painless

and Waver may not be an asshole but he was a spoiled brat until he manned up.
As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all.
Jun 8, 2012 4:17 PM
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BloodRequiem said:
sasukeuzi said:
Irisviel was on her way out anyways. Kirei just made it more painful and shorter. It killed me inside seeing Grandpa bein so nice to Waver TT_TT
WUT A NICE GUY
Hope he doesnt die. Waver is pretty much the only master who isnt an asshole l


"more painful"
it was painless

and Waver may not be an asshole but he was a spoiled brat until he manned up.
Well, he was just a little boy. That said he has potential, it's just he didn't had good teachers. You'd be a brat if the people who are supposed to teach you mocks you in front of the whole class.

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Staff list for episodes 24 and 25:
#24 *
Episode Director: Ei Aoki, Kei Tsunematsu
Storyboard: Ei Aoki
Animation Director: Atsushi Ikariya, Tomonori Sudo, Keita Shimizu, Shunya Kikuchi

#25 * Final
Episode Director/Storyboard: Ei Aoki
Animation Director: Tomonori Sudo

Episode 24 confirmed for having awesome fight(s).
Jun 8, 2012 8:44 PM

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stAtic91 said:
Staff list for episodes 24 and 25:
#24 *
Episode Director: Ei Aoki, Kei Tsunematsu
Storyboard: Ei Aoki
Animation Director: Atsushi Ikariya, Tomonori Sudo, Keita Shimizu, Shunya Kikuchi

#25 * Final
Episode Director/Storyboard: Ei Aoki
Animation Director: Tomonori Sudo

Episode 24 confirmed for having awesome fight(s).


Care to elaborate on the bolded parts/people?
Jun 8, 2012 9:01 PM

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sallym613 said:
Care to elaborate on the bolded parts/people?
There's not much to say, just that I think this is the largest number of animation directors they've had working on an episode of F/Z. Normally, it's just one or two.
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Care to elaborate on the bolded parts/people?
There's not much to say, just that I think this is the largest number of animation directors they've had working on an episode of F/Z. Normally, it's just one or two.


Oh okay. Thought it has something to do with how great these specific animator directors are. Sure hope the next few episodes wouldnt disappoint!

(And still waiting to hear if the last episode will be one hour long...)
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sallym613 said:
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Care to elaborate on the bolded parts/people?
There's not much to say, just that I think this is the largest number of animation directors they've had working on an episode of F/Z. Normally, it's just one or two.


Oh okay. Thought it has something to do with how great these specific animator directors are. Sure hope the next few episodes wouldnt disappoint!

(And still waiting to hear if the last episode will be one hour long...)
It would be an awesome surprise if it is but I'm not getting my hopes up. Theres no announcement and this things ussually get announced ahead of time (especially since they arrange this with the broadcasters beforehand).

Jun 8, 2012 9:46 PM

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Leon-Gun said:
sallym613 said:
stAtic91 said:
sallym613 said:
Care to elaborate on the bolded parts/people?
There's not much to say, just that I think this is the largest number of animation directors they've had working on an episode of F/Z. Normally, it's just one or two.


Oh okay. Thought it has something to do with how great these specific animator directors are. Sure hope the next few episodes wouldnt disappoint!

(And still waiting to hear if the last episode will be one hour long...)
It would be an awesome surprise if it is but I'm not getting my hopes up. Theres no announcement and this things ussually get announced ahead of time (especially since they arrange this with the broadcasters beforehand).


If they don't do the 1 hour finale, they are going to have some serious pacing issues.
Rage when epilogue is bluray only...
As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all.
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BloodRequiem said:
Leon-Gun said:
sallym613 said:
stAtic91 said:
sallym613 said:
Care to elaborate on the bolded parts/people?
There's not much to say, just that I think this is the largest number of animation directors they've had working on an episode of F/Z. Normally, it's just one or two.


Oh okay. Thought it has something to do with how great these specific animator directors are. Sure hope the next few episodes wouldnt disappoint!

(And still waiting to hear if the last episode will be one hour long...)
It would be an awesome surprise if it is but I'm not getting my hopes up. Theres no announcement and this things ussually get announced ahead of time (especially since they arrange this with the broadcasters beforehand).


If they don't do the 1 hour finale, they are going to have some serious pacing issues.
Rage when epilogue is bluray only...

I don't see any problem with the epilogue being blu-ray only, I mean it's sure a lot better than rushing everything just to cram the long ass epilogue into the final episode.
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Lumathy said:
BloodRequiem said:
Leon-Gun said:
sallym613 said:
stAtic91 said:
sallym613 said:
Care to elaborate on the bolded parts/people?
There's not much to say, just that I think this is the largest number of animation directors they've had working on an episode of F/Z. Normally, it's just one or two.


Oh okay. Thought it has something to do with how great these specific animator directors are. Sure hope the next few episodes wouldnt disappoint!

(And still waiting to hear if the last episode will be one hour long...)
It would be an awesome surprise if it is but I'm not getting my hopes up. Theres no announcement and this things ussually get announced ahead of time (especially since they arrange this with the broadcasters beforehand).


If they don't do the 1 hour finale, they are going to have some serious pacing issues.
Rage when epilogue is bluray only...

I don't see any problem with the epilogue being blu-ray only, I mean it's sure a lot better than rushing everything just to cram the long ass epilogue into the final episode.

And miss one of the best parts of the novel?
As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all.
Jun 8, 2012 10:55 PM

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^ How can we miss it though if it's in the blu-ray? We just got to wait a little longer, that's all.
Jun 8, 2012 11:05 PM

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Lumathy said:
^ How can we miss it though if it's in the blu-ray? We just got to wait a little longer, that's all.


For 350 dollars.
As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all.
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Lumathy said:
^ How can we miss it though if it's in the blu-ray? We just got to wait a little longer, that's all.


For 350 dollars.

The BD box with all the extras is totally worth that money.
And if you don't have money, you're on the internet, just do what you always do.
Jun 30, 2012 7:30 PM

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Excellent episode. Kirei has consistently been one of the most fascinating characters in a cast absolutely filled to the brim with fascinating characters and his killing Iri in one of the more brutal fashions fits his character arc until now and of course so does his new found desire to destroy Kiritsugu's ideal.

Also, it's great to see that the writing is sticking very closely to Saber describing to Shirou in Fate/stay that she had only talked to Kiritsugu when he used command spells. I was worried that that was going to be broken during the short scene between them (btw, I love how the director used the literal distance as a way of conveying the "distance" between the two of them).

Considering the nature of the Holy Grail, it was beyond creepy seeing the smile Irisviel had at the end. I wonder if it's effect is lost on those who have no prior knowledge of the franchise?
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Jul 1, 2012 9:51 AM

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Waver's Grandpa gets my seal of approval for being a bro!

And Rider for being not just GAR but a loving bro. I can't help but smile when he also put his big smiled. :D

On the other hand, Kirei killing Irisviel is rage-inducing. I was clenching my fist when I saw that.

And that ending. I sense something dark with Irisviel aside from being a homunculus.
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This episode had me in tears. It has been heavy on an emotional level since the beginning, but when Rider replied to Waver "Because you are my friend" and put on that big shining smile of his I just couldn't help it. Amazing episode, and not only that, it is the setup for the big event that is to follow.
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This episode had me in tears. It has been heavy on an emotional level since the beginning, but when Rider replied to Waver "Because you are my friend" and put on that big shining smile of his I just couldn't help it. Amazing episode, and not only that, it is the setup for the big event that is to follow.

Yup. Shedding a few tears during this episode was not inappropriate.

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Good episode, let's see what happens next. :)
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I'll drop my score on this if waver dies.

At least Iri is finally dead. She was pretty annoying and Kirei finally ended her agony. Pretty nice of him.
Sep 13, 2012 10:40 AM

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Iri! D:
Sep 15, 2012 4:48 PM

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The ending was interesting.
Sep 15, 2012 7:19 PM

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What an awesome episode! I can't wait to see how this ends!

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Sep 19, 2012 4:58 AM
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Nice episode seems the final battle is approaching.
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Is Iresviel dead now or not?
Anyways, fuck you, Kirei, for giving her such a painful and meaningless death. Poor girl ;_;

Waver was very cute this ep, great guy^^ Guess I'll search for some Waver X Rider doujinshis ;-P
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