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Goosey said: What did the man honestly expect out of the hardcore Gundam fans when he came out with this crap? This. Come on....how couldn't he expect a shitstorm. Was he honestly expecting ALL the hard-core Gundam fans to welcome this with open arms? |
LunaTrigger said: I, again, love how AGE is getting all this hate even though it has yet to be released. Come on guys, I can understand not liking the character designs, but this doesn't mean the show is going to be bad. Just wait for it to come out, then feel free to judge it all you want. The stupidity of this fanbase never ceases to amuse me. This pretty much. Sure it looks childish, but it might actually be pretty good. At least give it a few episodes before passing final judgement. As for me I saw the PV and I actually can't wait to see it since it looks interesting. I did say I was hoping for something new for Gundam and I got it. Now I wonder what the other announcement is going to be on June 25 |
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| Reading this thread is like reading all the people who say Naruto isn't a kids show. As long as it doesn't have stupid loyalties changing every 5 episodes, amnesia, a character with a mask, and a group that at first the creators treat as maybe a good group but actually they are evil, I may like this. I am sick of the Gundam model, and to be honest, this will follow it fan boys, so don't worry you'll have your 50 episodes of angst to enjoy. |
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| When I first heard about the news of a new Gundam, I was disappointed when I saw the scan, the designs and all. They really are mediocre, but at this point we might as well leave the criticism out until the show actually premiers. It's a different look compared to 00, so I find Akihiro to be a little naive that he's actually surprised that fans are complaining. Everyones going to bitch, canon UC or AU - doesn't matter. They will find something to complain over. Hopefully he'll get the message and just tell people to just quit whining until we hear more details after this. |
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jmal said: People bitch about everything, even things that haven't aired yet. He's surprised at that? How long has he been in this industry? So true. I'm so used to people talking shit that I really can't be bothered to even pretend I care. |
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Lolis_and_Shotas said: Gundam age looks like shit. Why they think it's a good idea is beyond my understanding of human logic. It looks like shit, hell even the shotas don't look all that good. This. Usually I don't mind the character designs as long as the story id good, but seeing all those shotas made me change my mind about it. So much for getting excited about a new Gundam series. |
Midori-tan said: My username is lolis and shotas for a reason, but gundam age is just that bad.Lolis_and_Shotas said: Gundam age looks like shit. Why they think it's a good idea is beyond my understanding of human logic. It looks like shit, hell even the shotas don't look all that good. This. Usually I don't mind the character designs as long as the story id good, but seeing all those shotas made me change my mind about it. So much for getting excited about a new Gundam series. |
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mitamaking said: Reading this thread is like reading all the people who say Naruto isn't a kids show. As long as it doesn't have stupid loyalties changing every 5 episodes, amnesia, a character with a mask, and a group that at first the creators treat as maybe a good group but actually they are evil, I may like this. I am sick of the Gundam model, and to be honest, this will follow it fan boys, so don't worry you'll have your 50 episodes of angst to enjoy. -high five- It's an enjoyable formula sure....but sometimes you need a little break. G-Gundam I miss you. |
jpem said: Sabinlerose said: mitamaking said: Reading this thread is like reading all the people who say Naruto isn't a kids show. As long as it doesn't have stupid loyalties changing every 5 episodes, amnesia, a character with a mask, and a group that at first the creators treat as maybe a good group but actually they are evil, I may like this. I am sick of the Gundam model, and to be honest, this will follow it fan boys, so don't worry you'll have your 50 episodes of angst to enjoy. -high five- It's an enjoyable formula sure....but sometimes you need a little break. G-Gundam I miss you. Nobody is complaining about it not following the formula... It's the content that's concerning and the character designs. |
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| If they out some Madaoka-esque twist on this it will all be fine. However, since they most likely won't.. I will still watch the first episode, so I can rant about it in the future, but the overall qality of the Gundam TV series seems to be drastically going down. At least the OVAs still exist. |
jpem said: Sabinlerose said: mitamaking said: Reading this thread is like reading all the people who say Naruto isn't a kids show. As long as it doesn't have stupid loyalties changing every 5 episodes, amnesia, a character with a mask, and a group that at first the creators treat as maybe a good group but actually they are evil, I may like this. I am sick of the Gundam model, and to be honest, this will follow it fan boys, so don't worry you'll have your 50 episodes of angst to enjoy. -high five- It's an enjoyable formula sure....but sometimes you need a little break. G-Gundam I miss you. Nobody is complaining about it not following the formula... I would argue that. The majority of the complains I have seen have suggested the problem is "It's for teh kids." "The Mecha design is teh shit!" "Characters look different!" To me the only thing wrong about any of those things is it's not typical Gundam. Ala breaking of the Gundam Formula and is exactly the kind of thing I used to hear about G-Gundam years and years ago on forums about Gundam. I just think it's insane to judge something based on small glimpses alone. |
Sohei said: If they out some Madaoka-esque twist on this it will all be fine. I don't think that'll make it any better. |
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| I don't know why everyone's so worked up about this. It's not like this is the first time a Gundam series has tried to cater to a specific audience. I mean, Gundam Wing was filled with pretty boys, G Gundam had mahco martial artists, and Gundam 00 had sexy big chested girls. So again, why is everyone suprised? Shotas are about the only thing a Gundam series hasn't exploited yet. As for the artwork, I'm not too picky. As long as it's not like Gundam 00 or Gundam Unicorn were the battles are so fast-paced and complex that you can't really enjoy the artwork because the mobile suits move so fast. |
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napolean86 said: Well Gundam Wing and G Gundam sucked too. Gundam 00 was alright. Shotas are awesome, just digimon wanabes aren't. It's that this new gundam looks terrible and is aimed at like 10 year olds, old school gundam fans aren't happy about it. Gundam Unicorn battles aren't really that hard to follow.I don't know why everyone's so worked up about this. It's not like this is the first time a Gundam series has tried to cater to a specific audience. I mean, Gundam Wing was filled with pretty boys, G Gundam had mahco martial artists, and Gundam 00 had sexy big chested girls. So again, why is everyone suprised? Shotas are about the only thing a Gundam series hasn't exploited yet. As for the artwork, I'm not too picky. As long as it's not like Gundam 00 or Gundam Unicorn were the battles are so fast-paced and complex that you can't really enjoy the artwork because the mobile suits move so fast. Beatnik said: When the fuck did this happen?I've only got 2 things to say: 1] This show is coming from the same team that brought you the Professor fucking Layton franchise. 2] Don't act like you're the first generation to see a 'cute-ified' Gundam: |
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Beatnik said: I've only got 2 things to say: 1] This show is coming from the same team that brought you the Professor fucking Layton franchise. yea because when I think about Gundam I think of all the mystery solving, puzzle mechanics and visual novels. Just because they did some thing good and entirely unrelated field doesn't mean they will do good now. Remember this are also the guys that gave us such classics as Inazuma Eleven and Danball Senki 2] Don't act like you're the first generation to see a 'cute-ified' Gundam: That's not the problem here. Gundam has been plenty "cute-ifed" Gundam before, but never as a Flag ship series. All the other attempts where low budget side projects. |
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Lolis_and_Shotas said: napolean86 said: Well Gundam Wing and G Gundam sucked too. Gundam 00 was alright. Shotas are awesome, just digimon wanabes aren't. It's that this new gundam looks terrible and is aimed at like 10 year olds, old school gundam fans aren't happy about it. Gundam Unicorn battles aren't really that hard to follow.I don't know why everyone's so worked up about this. It's not like this is the first time a Gundam series has tried to cater to a specific audience. I mean, Gundam Wing was filled with pretty boys, G Gundam had mahco martial artists, and Gundam 00 had sexy big chested girls. So again, why is everyone suprised? Shotas are about the only thing a Gundam series hasn't exploited yet. As for the artwork, I'm not too picky. As long as it's not like Gundam 00 or Gundam Unicorn were the battles are so fast-paced and complex that you can't really enjoy the artwork because the mobile suits move so fast. Beatnik said: When the fuck did this happen?I've only got 2 things to say: 1] This show is coming from the same team that brought you the Professor fucking Layton franchise. 2] Don't act like you're the first generation to see a 'cute-ified' Gundam: 1988 |
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Hoppy said: Lolis_and_Shotas said: napolean86 said: Well Gundam Wing and G Gundam sucked too. Gundam 00 was alright. Shotas are awesome, just digimon wanabes aren't. It's that this new gundam looks terrible and is aimed at like 10 year olds, old school gundam fans aren't happy about it. Gundam Unicorn battles aren't really that hard to follow.I don't know why everyone's so worked up about this. It's not like this is the first time a Gundam series has tried to cater to a specific audience. I mean, Gundam Wing was filled with pretty boys, G Gundam had mahco martial artists, and Gundam 00 had sexy big chested girls. So again, why is everyone suprised? Shotas are about the only thing a Gundam series hasn't exploited yet. As for the artwork, I'm not too picky. As long as it's not like Gundam 00 or Gundam Unicorn were the battles are so fast-paced and complex that you can't really enjoy the artwork because the mobile suits move so fast. Beatnik said: When the fuck did this happen?I've only got 2 things to say: 1] This show is coming from the same team that brought you the Professor fucking Layton franchise. 2] Don't act like you're the first generation to see a 'cute-ified' Gundam: 1988 Hahaha, SD Gundam. GUNDAM PENSION! ;) I just looked at the trailer. I am a little curious. I guess when to comes to gundam TV shows, there's always going to be kids piloting the gundams like aces. And I wonder how the "next generation" SL is going to play out. The "unknown Enemy" are a bunch of transforming dragons ;) And the blue-haired kid is named "Flit" or "Fleet"? |
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jmal said: besides did they learn flop of 00 movie. Uh huh, sure flopped. It's only sold like 160,000 copies or thereabouts. Not to mention that it was actually engaging, deep and interesting movie. Just ignore klacman. Some people just do not get that movie, because unlike seed ovas or previous gundam movie attempts, this one involves using your brains to think about what you see.. Gangler said: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/UnpleasableFanbase I'll just leave this here ;) Pretty much describes gundam fanbase. |
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Fai said: Pretty much describes gundam fanbase. no really Gundam fanbase is pretty easy to please, Bandai Sunrise just does a good job of pissing it off and trying to pander to people that aren't it's fanbase. |
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Jigero said: Fai said: Pretty much describes gundam fanbase. no really Gundam fanbase is pretty easy to please, Bandai Sunrise just does a good job of pissing it off and trying to pander to people that aren't it's fanbase. LOL @ someone describing any fanbase to be "easy to please". |
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SageShinigami said: Jigero said: Fai said: Pretty much describes gundam fanbase. no really Gundam fanbase is pretty easy to please, Bandai Sunrise just does a good job of pissing it off and trying to pander to people that aren't it's fanbase. LOL @ someone describing any fanbase to be "easy to please". No, seriously, the fanbase IS easy to please. the easiest way is too just take some random UC side story and animate it, and keep it on UC standard. |
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punkster90 said: Wonder what Tomino thinks about this He's pissed, Tomino never wanted sequels in the first place, it's the reason for the events at the end of Zeta and Victory. |
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Hoppy said: punkster90 said: Wonder what Tomino thinks about this He's pissed, Tomino never wanted sequels in the first place, it's the reason for the events at the end of Zeta and Victory. Uh what? Tomino had Chars counter attack written, before he ever did Zeta or Victory and was practically begging sunrise to let him make a movie out of it, He didn't do ZZ because char's counter attack was green lit. Tomino also did Gaia Gear which was meant to be the next step for the UC universe. |
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| I'll give AGE a shot. The reason why the chars are cutesy is because the char artist also did char designs for Inazuma Eleven. Makes super sense! ;) |
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| I have to agree, criticism was to be expected especially by the Gundam fanbase. I really dislike how they really didn't want to do any U.C.-based Gundam series over the past couple of years until Unicorn showed up last year. I feel they've neglected their original fanbase, not that I'm anti-New Gen., I like both the newer and older Gundam series. We all have the animation of Mobile Suit Gundam: The Origin to look forward to, at some later date, anyway. I'll be hailing a second return to the Universal Century, alongside Unicorn! =D I'll still try AGE, I have heavy doubts about the series, though. |
ReconZeroCPJun 26, 2011 8:34 PM
| The problem with coming out with a new, serious Gundam series is that the target audience for the action and mecha content of the show are now, for the most part, too young to remember all of the series in UC and even the alternate reality of SEED could be hazy. On the other hand, trying to target the original fans of the Gundam enterprise and looking for more than just detailed mecha designs and well-animated battles... and they also grew up watching the series that are in UC. (This was part of the problem with Gundam 00... the whole "WHAT?! It's in OUR timeline?!" mentality). I think Gundam 00 succeeded well, particularly in the beginning, at drawing viewers from both demographics in with it's solid character and mecha designs, excellent animation, adult-oriented and political plotline, and very well executed action sequences. However as the series progressed and moved away from the conflicting politics of Earth and "out into space," it went a bit too Innovator/"universal peace only through conversation!" crazy. The plot lost nearly all of its realism and seemed like it was written by an entirely different staff (of hippies). Right now, it's just WAY too soon to begin another Gundam series that will have any merit. For a good UC or other alternate reality series, the whole background, concept and history of UC or other alternate reality (see Wing, SEED, SEED Destiny) would have to somehow be reintroduced to younger and new Gundam series viewers (not an easy task, and I highly doubt any studio will want to throw up a big chunk of change for a new Gundam series that new viewers to Gundam, outside of Gundam 00, won't be able to understand). Having another series take place in "our" future timeline is also difficult, especially since 00 has aired so recently and isn't exactly collecting dusts in the back of distribution warehouses yet. I think the big problem with AGE is the childish animation that screams "geared for kids." Even though there have been shows in the past aimed towards younger audiences that have been fantastic, as far as Gundam goes, how many adults are really going to want to take a chance on a potential "Gundam-for-kids" when they can just wait until another adult-oriented series is developed. Bottom line: It's too soon. If the project were in my hands, I would be working on picking out all of the main events of the UC timeline, creating a new cast for the perspective and adding new material to re-introduce the UC universe of Gundam to viewers (while also making it a unique show of it's own) and coupling it with some fantastic designs and animation. The same could be done for an alternate reality series as well. They really need to catch people up before plowing on ahead and losing the viewers dedicated to the franchise that they still have. |
jmal said: Sohei said: I will still watch the first episode, so I can rant about it in the future This says so much about the attitude of too many MAL posters, and it's a bit sad (and you're a mod too!). Going out of your way to enable yourself to bitch about something. Really now? Just... why? "I'll still watch the first few episodes to give it a fair chance and see if my preconceptions are wrong" would make sense. But no, people are already so utterly hell-bent on hating this from the very first promo image that the question of whether it turns out to be any good is moot. It's already been determined: you hate it. No matter what happens. And just ignoring it and watching something else is apparently inconceivable. That's just so silly. Indeed. And if it wasn't already obvious this is what Hino was talking about as opposed to what people are trying to project on him here in that, "of course you should expect that sort of criticism for making it all kiddy hurrr durrr!" Circular reasoning much? I completely sympathize with him in not expecting the fandom to react like total asshats because he's never had to deal with the bullshit kneejerk reactions that are now common in the Gundam fandom. That he has Ebikawa to assure him that it's all part of the cycle is probably a good thing for his confidence. It's not his fucking fault for pursuing a project and goal that not everybody is going to agree with. People have to realize and accept that they don't call the shots when it comes to Gundam, it's the people that make it that do and no amount of bitching and whining is going to change that. It's best to just try and enjoy the show or don't when it actually airs. Honestly though if you ask me it just looks like some people are desperate for attention and have an axe to grind and Gundam AGE's announcement gave them that opportunity. It's sad when I can safely say that the so-called hardcore Gundam fandom (I consider myself a hardcore Gundam fan, but I try not to act like an asshole about how I wants mah Gundam etc.) is acting less mature than the age demographic this show is probably targeted at in teens. This is something that most of MAL will probably never grasp (most of the internet Gundam fandom really), but it helps to actually watch the show and have some ground to stand on before being hyper critical and desperately trying to draw attention to yourselves. This ground I'm talking about can again be achieved by actually watching the show and then criticizing it based on actual content as opposed to art assets. Otherwise expect to convince very few people if any that haven't already jumped on board the hate bandwagon. Fucking embarassing people. Incredibly embarassing to consider myself a hardcore Gundam fan these days. |
PeacingOutAug 14, 2011 12:03 PM
| A drunken Hino Akihiro after playing the game pokemon black and white thought that it would be a great idea to mix the game and gundam itself to create a brand new unique gundam series: Gundam AGE. But as it turns out, the series was a complete bullshit, even before the first episode starts running, millions of fans worldwide is complaining how kiddy the design was from the promo and that it should burned with fire before it corrupt the younger generations. Who knows later just into a few episode, you start seeing the gundam starts to shoot pokeballs out from its chest to capture the aliens enemy in the series since the synopsis said the gundam was the only hope from humanity. Thats right, the aliens were actually new-types of gundam that AGE gundam had to capture in order to become the ultimate gundam-master, gotta f*cking catch em all, gundam-mon! |
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| The only thing I want to bitch about is that it's little kids. Kids that don't even look like they could kill you. I loved WING. 00 is like MY FAVORITE ANIME OF ALL TIME (I love it soooooo much). But SEED and SEED Destiny both had that little kid feel that I'm afraid AGE may end up having. And I want to point out that by "little kid feel" I mean all the whining and crying. To be honest, it's why I had problems watching that um... 0080 I think it was? With the blond kid who cried at the end of like EVERY EPISODE! Anyway, I hope that's not the case. At any rate, I'll still watch it. GUNDAM's been really the only mecha anime I've ever enjoyed. I'll watch it, then see what I think of the series. I mean honestly, it takes something REALLY BAD or STUPID to make me drop a show (like, you know, Fighting Foodons). The writers should just writer is how they want to. It's their vision. Just because fans bitch about it, doesn't mean it wasn't a good idea. Everyone can find something they don't like, and not everyone's going to agree on what that something is (example: I for one hate FLCL but apparently the world loves it). Writers just have to bring their vision to life and be true to that vision. Only then is their job complete. |
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Ashuri said: But SEED and SEED Destiny both had that little kid feel that I'm afraid AGE may end You're kidding right? SEED and SEED Destiny had one of the darkest story lines out of the Gundam series available..... It definitely didn't feel like it was for "kids" when I was watching it. On a side note, I have to agree that AGE looks like its gonna be terrible. |
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| I really am a gundam fan but what bothers me is that it is rated for children when others like 00 and SEED is rated 17+ |
| I don't get why people keep saying that the protagonist is too young. I mean, Uso Ewin from Victory Gundam is younger and there didn't seem to be any problem with that. I have no idea if it's going to be terrible or good, but I'm fine with the fact that it's PG. I don't think it'll ever be good enough to be the best Gundam spin-off, but I'm just going to wait and see. |
| I'm pretty sure Gundam Age will be better than shitty Gundam Seed/Destiny, Gundam Wing and Gundam 00 s2. If that doesn't happen...well Sunrise, let's just say I'll give you up for sure. |
| Duh. Kid show. I am sooo NOT going to watch this |
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jrgcool35 said: Ashuri said: But SEED and SEED Destiny both had that little kid feel that I'm afraid AGE may end You're kidding right? SEED and SEED Destiny had one of the darkest story lines out of the Gundam series available..... It definitely didn't feel like it was for "kids" when I was watching it. On a side note, I have to agree that AGE looks like its gonna be terrible. SEED & DESTINY? darkest story lines? absolutely no There are many other gundam series that have darker plot You should try watching other UC series and Turn A, so you'll understand why people said that SEED and Destiny are for "kids". Gundam AGE? Bah. Better wait for MS Gundam : The Origin |
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| 1. Pretty sure Domon from G Gundam is 20 or older. G Gundam was NOTHING like the others. 2. In Gundam 00 S2 all of them were past 20 years old. 3. Gundam ZZ is nowhere near as angsty as Gundam Z was. This teenage angst BS, though I can understand, has been met with a lot of precedents before this one. On the art issue: Come on, are you really basing your opinions on the art of all things? Not much of a fan, are you? On the UE thing: If they are disgruntled humans I am gonna punch you guys, talking about aliens, in the face. tl;dr: I like Gundam AGE so far and if I did not it would not be for any of your dumb reasons. |
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Thespacepope said: tl;dr: I like Gundam AGE so far and if I did not it would not be for any of your dumb reasons. This so much this. If I end up disliking AGE it would be because the plot is dragging to a hault or I lost interest. Well I doubt I will though since I'm loving AGE so far, but only time will tell I guess. |
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