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Feb 28, 2012 6:28 AM
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Wow, never thought that somebody is gonna have an orgasam when somebody else is brushing your teeth.
Feb 28, 2012 8:11 AM

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That made my day, thanks for sharing!
Feb 28, 2012 8:56 AM
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Have you ever seen Bake? Heard of Senjougahara? Understand the concept of purity of essence? -Monogatari doesn't half ass anything; it's full throttle all the way. You fall behind it's not SHAFT's problem. Just because a scene wasn't to your taste doesn't mean anything but you have different taste. If you thought an incestuous approach to story telling is "dedicated to fanservice" or that it wasn't "proper character development" maybe this is your stop on the -Monogatari series?

SHAFT is SHAFT. That was a very cleaver, and perhaps overly erotic, written and directed scene. I also have faith that this will relate to Tsukihi's arc in one way or another.


ITT: panty flashes of 15 year olds coupled with heavy incestuous overtones is character development. ignoring the fact that teethbrushing left us exactly where we started with characters (except the other sister being platinum mad), sure!

the Monogatari defense force will justify anything, won't they? i notice you already have the show as a 10...and it's not even over.
Feb 28, 2012 9:07 AM

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This series in a nutshell

Feb 28, 2012 10:12 AM
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the original light novel its based off of doesn't have any fanservice since the entire story was written without the intent to publish it therefore there were no scenes added to cater to the fans.

Though the adaptation is full of fanservice, the animation is more fluid because more people would like that, the characters look good because more people would like that, the backgrounds are pretty and the music is consistent and helps the mood because more people would watch because of that.

The animation studios do a lot of things specifically to increase the viewership of a show. What I assume most people are referring to when they say Fanservice is the use of sexual themes to appeal to the lowest common denominator. Though this statement is inherently false as the mature rating tagged onto a show would decrease the amount of people able to view it, thus decreasing viewership. Not to mention that despite the plethora of shows aimed toward pleasing fan's lust a very small percentage of them will earn a multiple seasons if even a full season. If there is a demand for something people will fill that demand, that's all there is to it.

On to the last order of business which is the most absurd, the misconception that a show with sexual themes can not be "Deep". You need only look at Shakespeare's works which have influenced almost all literature in the west to realize how truly ridiculous the above claim is. Almost every play written by William Shakespeare contained copious amounts of sex, sexual innuendo, and a myriad of fetishes that would make Highschool DxD look like sesame street. Did you know he has used over 100 different terms for the word vagina?

All of that aside, I thought the direction for this episode was absolutely perfect. If I have a single complaint about this show it's that the story is doing too many different things at the same time, but the scenes have all been so entertaining for me that I would feel bad if even a single one were cut.
Feb 28, 2012 10:28 AM

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now i definitely want sisters like karen and tsukihi xD
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now i definitely want sisters like karen and tsukihi xD
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Orangespike said:

On to the last order of business which is the most absurd, the misconception that a show with sexual themes can not be "Deep". You need only look at Shakespeare's works which have influenced almost all literature in the west to realize how truly ridiculous the above claim is. Almost every play written by William Shakespeare contained copious amounts of sex, sexual innuendo, and a myriad of fetishes that would make Highschool DxD look like sesame street. Did you know he has used over 100 different terms for the word vagina?

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Comparing Shakespeare's writing to NisiOisiN. Facepalm. Yes, erotic content can be deep. Although the picture refers very specifically to Nisemonogatari.

Bakemonogatari was the best selling anime of it's season so they basically had a solid fan base to take pointless fan service.
Feb 28, 2012 12:29 PM

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Thats a fair enough of a comparison actually its like saying even Shakespear did that stuff. A lot of his works get smutty especially for their times.
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Feb 28, 2012 1:36 PM

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^

And the point is...

Even if he did that does not guarantee success every time someone does it. The fact of using erotic content or not does not make a certain thing bad. The pic is, as I said a direct reference to Nisemonogatari.
Feb 28, 2012 1:55 PM

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^ Yes I know

Its just people tend to focus on negative things or perverted things more than everything as a whole and as your picture shows, you can still proffit off the pervy things easily even if someone has no clue whats going on in the story of the show xD
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I wasn't and am not directing my comments specifically at your "meanwhile at shaft" image, but rather at the number of people who are using the "Fanservice = shitty show" argument.

The point I was trying to make was that calling a show shallow simply because its got sex appeal is not a valid argument.

Pictures are worth a thousand words, its not hard to argue that the show has a sexual nature with a screenshot. There's not much of a reason for another person to argue the point other than the fact that "Fanservice" has negative connotations.

Going on the decry the show as Plotless garbage without giving a reason other than "Fanservice" is not an argument as you've not given a reason that makes any logical sense to back up your statement. All you've done is insult the fans themselves, told everyone who supports this show that they don't care about anything but TnA.

Strip away the "Fanservice" from the show, do the characters having nothing to say now? is mayoi's advice now invalid, is senjougahara now a flat character with no development? These are part of the plot, things you could argue do nothing to further the story if you so desire. Arguments that show a differing opinion rather than an outright act of hostility.
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oh come on. It was a hilarious ep. don't be so serious and boring ;)
I'm not a fan of this fanservice stuff (lol, I'm sorry for tautology)), but this is the great example of what you can call "good fanservice" - it's crazy and funny, but still appropriate and decent =)

UPD ok)) maybe it's inappropriate, but doesn't annoy at all :D
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most entertaining episode that I've watched so far...


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I'm not sure what's past the deep end, but this episode was out there. That's what can happen when an amateur tries to emulate a professional. Araragi should leave this type of activity to Suruga.

Tsukihi only had a few moments on camera but she made the most of them, especially in how she asked her siblings just WTF they were doing. And her going for an awl reminded me of an earlier episode when she went for a knife. I enjoyed her OP as well, the style of which reminded me of her former classmate Nadeko Snake's OP.

This show is an insane treat. Too much madness for one episode.

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now i definitely want sisters like karen and tsukihi xD

Keep saying that when Tsukihi returns with her new awl.
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Mockman said:

Keep saying that when Tsukihi returns with her new awl.

thats good, i love strange and cute girls :P
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Damn. So much fan service and sexual innuendo. That fetish was interesting too... and smart. I could visualize it very well (since it's an everyday thing). So it was all good.
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SO UNEXPECTED. Amazing episode!
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That incest. HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGHHH
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Amazing, my day has been made.
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Amazing, my day has been made.

Wow... 19 episodes can change a man?
seems like it
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My face while watching
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one of the best episodes i've watch in an anime :D
Nope.
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New OP ♥

Karen-chan looked cute in her outfit.

That toothbrush scene :|
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What does it make you think soulelle? I would be curious to know.

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Nice!!!!!!!!! love Nisemono :3
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Best episode of any anime ever, I can't wait to brush my teeth.
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OMG love this EP, really. Dat incest and dat new OP. I really like tsukihi, the voice really fits her. <3 Inlove with the new OP. :O
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Favorite episode so far <3!

I couldn't stop watching~
Mar 1, 2012 10:17 PM
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Sexual tension. Wincest.
Mar 1, 2012 10:28 PM
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Kinda weird that they make a special OP for Tsukihi and call it her chapter but only put her in it for less than 3 minutes >.>

And how the hell did he come up with that idea for a challenge :P
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*bows to the Shaft gods*

Thank you for this blessing.
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hahaha good job this is awesome :D
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Disappointing. Episode 7 was great, this on the other hand, was self-indulgent garbage.
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This has gotta be one of my favorite episode of any anime at all in quite a some time Nisemono. So filled with Wincest goodness!!!

I like it how she goes dere dere and pressing herself against him. The second time when Koyomi was given the death glare forcing him to complement on her appearance she clings on to him wrapping her legs around him too...so risque.

Aww too bad that was just to try get him to introduce her to Kanbaru-sensei. She's even willing to give her virginity to her own big brother...0_O

Dat toothbrush play. Oh me oh my! Who would've thought that simply brushing someone else's teeth could turn out to be some thing so sexually inducing! Even making Koyomi see how cute his little sister really is.
ITS FUNNY BECAUSE of the music that plays when after Karen says it's okay.

Tsukihi, witnessing the two in that position as they were about to get it on...
I'm expecting her to go Yandere on them in the next ep, especially now that Karen decided to call it fouls and continuing their game for the rest of the morning, happily hand-in-hand while Tsukihi goes out to buy an awl at the store.

(And good thing Tsukihi grew some of that hair back as I prefer longer hair)

Ah yes. It is truly such a wonderful morning for the two siblings.
Hope they enjoy and make the most out of it while they still can as it'll be their last before execution time
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I LOVE THE NEW OP.

but I don't really like incest so I found this ep slightly disturbing.
Mar 3, 2012 7:30 AM
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Whatever this was, they did it great... o.O
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INCESTMONOGATARI !!!

Well at least his sister is cute

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w-w-ww-w-w-w-w-wwtf did i just watch
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i too have the weirdest boner right now
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Somebody call for me?
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that was surprisingly sexy episode.
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Karen completely took out the entire series with this episode.

On my ratings during Bakemonogatari and even the very beginning of Nisemonogatari Karen was residing somewhere around the 5th spot; prior to this episode she took out 4th and this episode happened where she shot up to take out my first overall.

Fabulous work in both animation and the humorous dialogue happening between both Koyomi, Karen and then Tsukihi at the very end made this episode the best.
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Best episode.
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I'm going to go right ahead and say this was better than most Hentai I have ever watched.

Nisemonogatari just reached a very HIGH level in Wincest.


Senjogahara??....Nah, she's old news.....Karen, is easily the star of this anime!!!
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Holy mother of god. That was intense. So that was the legendary toothbrush episode, huh?

That infamous scene will live on in the annals of history and the memories of those who've seen it. The simple act of brushing teeth will never be the same again. And I've just joined that post-toothbrush scene world. Now I've seen everything. Nothing will surprise me now.
BRB, time to brush my teeth...

On a more serious note, it's strange to see that Karen gets more screentime in a Tsukihi Phoenix episode than a Karen Bee episode. I'd agree with Koyomi that Karen wearing a skirt is incredible. Arienai, even. And I actually found the toothbrush scene more of crazy funny rather than, uh... stimulating, as a few others would have it.

Great new OP, by the way. Loving all 3 OPs and the ED for Nisemonogatari!

Panalo! Episode na walang kapantay. Panis.
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My teeth are either going to be VERY clean or untouched for the next few months. And while I thought it dialled up the sex a little too much, still an awesome episode.

I'm going to go watch it again.
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Now I totally want to watch Air again because of the feathers at the end. Someone else noticed?
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