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Jabberwock- said: Wow, great ep. It's like L4D with girls and some fan service, though I didn't notice enough of it to ruin anime. Me approves this! how the hell can you compare L4D with this anime? The zombies aren't mutants and they do not run fast like in the anime. Sure they can pick up weapons and such like L4D but almost every zombie related series/movie always have weapons. Don't compare video games to anime unless the video games are from an anime. I love L4D btw :P |
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| This is my first anime I watched that was gorey to this extent, but I've read much more gorey MANGA instead. It was pretty good! =) And yeah, I'm gonna complain, lol. Eh... coulda been more entertaining without the fanservice lol... It's gonna get to me when I see an intense gorey scene and I'm flashed with some panties, lol. XD My favorite scenes were when the 'BFFs' were skipping and she kicked that girl's ass down the steps. =( Also... the other one, I don't remember anymore :o I give it a 4.5/5. |
| wow. this is the first time i'm watching a show like this, besides 3 eps from elfen lied lol. i was scrolling through the list of new shows on ann, and i didn't think much of this series at first. but now that i've finished the 1st ep, i can say i'm amazed. so much emotion, and the graphics are good too in my opinion. i'm excited to know how the story progresses. |
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| Amazing first episode. No doubt going to be my favorite anime of this season, along with Occult Academy. But I can't judge it any more than a 8 because I don't know how much it's going to continue on like this :P |
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-Voltekka said: Ok, first you said in an earier post that their translation of bgata made it more funny. Subs are supposed to TRANSLATE not entertain. Second, not everyone is american and knows what kfc is. Third, ''The person I loved the most'' instead of ''The person I really liked'' is not the same thing but besides that i don't want to read something that the characters in the anime DIDN'T say. Only brainless pricks like you could like that sort of translation. Have a nice day, SamTheNayru. I agree, subtitles are supposed to translate. But BGHK isn't a serious show. Throwing in a KFC didn't make me rage, it only made me laugh and enjoy the show more. There isn't anything bad about that. Same with K-ON!!. Ritsu didn't say ''Mugi, get her an iPad!'', but I don't really care, 'cause the rest of their subs are great quality. Hurrdurr, I'm not American. And that's where you're wrong. Brainless pricks are the one that rage over CG's subs on every episode discussion possible. And, thanks, you have a nice day too Volt. |
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| The episode was fine, but those hair designs for girls are making me sick. The pink one is absolutely awful and Rei's hair design - what's up with those Clannad locks of hair? I don't even get those...two locks of hair coming out from your head like antennas...those things were also awful on Nagisa too. |
| Rei needs another slap.:p That girl was so selfish, I'd be depressedif she was my only company at worlds end! The amount of ecchi was silly; do we really need to focus primarily on giggling boobies and panty shots each time a girl is about to get her throat ripped out? Yes, ecchi can be funny, yet priorities the horror element. |
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Queen_Stars said: Rei needs another slap.:p That girl was so selfish, I'd be depressedif she was my only company at worlds end! The amount of ecchi was silly; do we really need to focus primarily on giggling boobies and panty shots each time a girl is about to get her throat ripped out? Yes, ecchi can be funny, yet priorities the horror element. Awww, so selfish to react hysterically to zombie apocalypse and her zombie-boyfriend being killed with baseball by her ex~ Otaku sometimes amuse me with their standards for women.... As for ecchi go watch at least one of Romero's movies about zombies. And count how many times women get their clothes ripped. |
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| That was not just hysterical, the way Rei was acting. She was flipping from one absurd reaction to the next. One moment she's playing a helpless imbecile, and the next she's an over-serious warrior, then to an angry bitch. Extreme lines like "You're a man aren't you?" Seemed hilariously inappropriate considering he's the only reason she's alive. The little scene at the end was also very disgusting. I think too many otaku men are happy with having exceptionally weaker/emotionally unstable women be lead characters that they think that it's totally fine that they be the norm. It's devastatingly low standards that border on misogyny. And you're asking the show to be compared to its predecessors instead of its contemporaries? That doesn't make much sense to me. I was a kid when I watched those, so I won't even really begin to try and compare the quality of nudity, or the sense of integrity (or gratuitousness it is shown). Either way, though, this has a distinctively Japanese way of animating boobs in a ridiculous fashion and showing panty shots where (in reality) there should be none. Also, for this to be set in modern times and have people not be sure of what those zombies are is ridiculous. Maybe Japan doesn't think of 'Zombie Apocalypse' scenarios like in America, but I expected differently from a country that gave us the Resident Evil and Dead Rising series. |
| I thought I heard a music similar to 28 Weeks Later around near the end. |
| Though I am very happy about this and it was great imo, but there was quite a bit cut out, I was expecting to see about two episodes for the first chapter due to time restraints but they seemed to just cut out the character development and will continue on with chapter two next episode. I think I'll enjoy this in a slightly different way than the manga. 9/10 |
noteDhero said: That was not just hysterical, the way Rei was acting. She was flipping from one absurd reaction to the next. One moment she's playing a helpless imbecile, and the next she's an over-serious warrior, then to an angry bitch. Extreme lines like "You're a man aren't you?" Seemed hilariously inappropriate considering he's the only reason she's alive. The little scene at the end was also very disgusting. I think too many otaku men are happy with having exceptionally weaker/emotionally unstable women be lead characters that they think that it's totally fine that they be the norm. It's devastatingly low standards that border on misogyny. Actually I find Rei's reactions quite realistic. Women are pretty illogical creatures. At the end her emotions were clear. The guy just bashed the head of her boyfriend. Everything's gone to hell. So to get out her frustration she just lets it all out on him. She figures he will just take it. But instead he just says that he will go away and kick zombie ass. She realizes he's serious. She will be left alone. To deal with all this. And becomes desperate. Quite reasonable. But still does not change the fact that shes a bitch. Also, for this to be set in modern times and have people not be sure of what those zombies are is ridiculous. Not really. I think the reason is not that they don't know what they are but rather they can't accept what they are. I mean think about it. Why do zombie movie protagonists never call zombies zombies? Because you would be admitting the absurdity of the situation. People coming back to life and eating people. It's just ridiculous. For someone living an ordinary life something like this is just a slap to the face. Our main character figured it out almost straight away. Making him ten times smarter than your average Zombie movie character. |
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AidanAK47 said: noteDhero said: I think too many otaku men are happy with having exceptionally weaker/emotionally unstable women be lead characters that they think that it's totally fine that they be the norm. It's devastatingly low standards that border on misogyny. Women are pretty illogical creatures. And my point is proven. |
| It surpass my expectations. It's really great. |
noteDhero said: AidanAK47 said: noteDhero said: I think too many otaku men are happy with having exceptionally weaker/emotionally unstable women be lead characters that they think that it's totally fine that they be the norm. It's devastatingly low standards that border on misogyny. Women are pretty illogical creatures. And my point is proven. If there were a +1 Rep button, I would hit it. |
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noteDhero said: AidanAK47 said: noteDhero said: I think too many otaku men are happy with having exceptionally weaker/emotionally unstable women be lead characters that they think that it's totally fine that they be the norm. It's devastatingly low standards that border on misogyny. Women are pretty illogical creatures. And my point is proven. I think every human is quite illogical creature. Our puny little morals and society shatter when something grand and bad happens. Our instincts awaken, our psyche begins doing irrational decisions, leading us closer and closer to insanity. Rei's reactions were very realistic and irratic. Many otaku LOVE mary sue characters, so seeing something more akin to real female is frightening and horrible to them. AidanAK47 said: Not really. I think the reason is not that they don't know what they are but rather they can't accept what they are. I mean think about it. Why do zombie movie protagonists never call zombies zombies? Because you would be admitting the absurdity of the situation. People coming back to life and eating people. It's just ridiculous. For someone living an ordinary life something like this is just a slap to the face. Our main character figured it out almost straight away. Making him ten times smarter than your average Zombie movie character. ANd yet still, (unless you are watching the crappy troll version of CoalGuys), they never actually use the Z word. Be it "walking dead" or "them". |
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Fai said: I think every human is quite illogical creature. While I agree to this part, the rest of your post is no justification for Rei. I'd explain why, but nDh has already done so. |
Lind_L_Tailor said: noteDhero said: AidanAK47 said: noteDhero said: I think too many otaku men are happy with having exceptionally weaker/emotionally unstable women be lead characters that they think that it's totally fine that they be the norm. It's devastatingly low standards that border on misogyny. Women are pretty illogical creatures. And my point is proven. If there were a +1 Rep button, I would hit it. Let me revise my statement. Some women are pretty illogical creatures. I am speaking from experience here. This series has one woman who is acting illogical in a crisis. Can't we let this go? There are other female leads who are and will be making up for that. |
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Fai said: I think every human is quite illogical creature. Our puny little morals and society shatter when something grand and bad happens. Our instincts awaken, our psyche begins doing irrational decisions, leading us closer and closer to insanity. Rei's reactions were very realistic and irratic. Many otaku LOVE mary sue characters, so seeing something more akin to real female is frightening and horrible to them. Here's my problem: there is a clear imbalance in the way men and women were portrayed in this episode. When there are little clips showing what's going on inside the school, when women are the focus, they are screaming while standing still or on a hair trigger kicking their friend down the stairs while the men are either just fighting for their lives, protecting girls, or generally acting much more rational. And to be clear, I'm making a distinction between featured sexes and the "crowd" that tramples each other. That was the most wonderfully human moment of the whole episode. I'm fine with everyone being hyper-emotional, hyper-irrational, or there being a mix between the two amongst the sexes. Those are all valid choices to make. However, I'm not fine with there being a clear distinction of women being unable to grasp the situation and men more easily able to adapt. It's a little insulting to me. Especially if Rei is supposed to be highly trained whatever-the-fuck compared to the protagonist. |
Phantoka said: I can agree with Rei being kinda of a.....bitch in this EP. But, hopefully she'll get better with more eps.... ^ Same. I have learned not to judge a character for just one episode, some turn out way different than I thought they would. However I'd agree that she's a bitch in this episode, if she doesn't change later on she could very well make it into the ''most-annoying'' anime character list, for me at least. |
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| Love the op/ed theme... The ep was OK.. could have done without the fan service tho... will give it a couple more eps... Junichi + Mamoru = LOVE, tho it's a pity Hisashi (Mamoru) died in the beginning :( |
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| It was awesome. Just a bit too many panty shots for my liking. I don't mind it when it's realistic you know (like seeing it when zombies rip clothes to shreds), but do we have to see every girl action from underneath their skirts? The show has a lot of potential I think |
noteDhero said: Here's my problem: there is a clear imbalance in the way men and women were portrayed in this episode. When there are little clips showing what's going on inside the school, when women are the focus, they are screaming while standing still or on a hair trigger kicking their friend down the stairs while the men are either just fighting for their lives, protecting girls, or generally acting much more rational. And to be clear, I'm making a distinction between featured sexes and the "crowd" that tramples each other. That was the most wonderfully human moment of the whole episode. I'm fine with everyone being hyper-emotional, hyper-irrational, or there being a mix between the two amongst the sexes. Those are all valid choices to make. However, I'm not fine with there being a clear distinction of women being unable to grasp the situation and men more easily able to adapt. It's a little insulting to me. Especially if Rei is supposed to be highly trained whatever-the-fuck compared to the protagonist. Come on. Do you really think the male protagonist slapping some sense into the girl who rejected him is sexist? It's not like Takashi killed Rei's boyfriend (his 'best friend'), then reduced her to tearfully begging him not to abandon her. Rei's a fierce, independent woman who doesn't need a man by her side. :P |
| Well that was a good episode, I'll be keeping an eye on this for sure. However, Rei was one of the most annoying bitches ever. |
| I'm amazed. That's such EPIC quality for the first episode. I love it already as much as the manga :D |
Fai said: Queen_Stars said: Rei needs another slap.:p That girl was so selfish, I'd be depressedif she was my only company at worlds end! The amount of ecchi was silly; do we really need to focus primarily on giggling boobies and panty shots each time a girl is about to get her throat ripped out? Yes, ecchi can be funny, yet priorities the horror element. Awww, so selfish to react hysterically to zombie apocalypse and her zombie-boyfriend being killed with baseball by her ex~ Otaku sometimes amuse me with their standards for women.... As for ecchi go watch at least one of Romero's movies about zombies. And count how many times women get their clothes ripped. Are yo insinuating I'm an otaku? Not that theirs anything wrong with being one, but don't label me. Do you want a discussion, or do you simply want to make remarks? I'll give you a discussion... I don't have high standards for women, I just grow bored of those who fall into the same few personailty types; irratic is a common one and is almost always present in leading girls (creators always like them to be damzels in destress, getting rescued by males, having love interests). Lastly, I claimed she was selfish as she moaned at the person who saved her life, tried slamming a 'jealousy' lable on him, stating he wanted to be with her, then she stated that she wanted to become a zombie too; putting her friend in danger and contributing to the disaster. To add to this, where did I state I dislike Rei? As for the Romero films, I fail to see what your talking about? I see torn clothes, which makes sence, yet anime fanservice consists of bouncy boobs and panties, aswell as nudity, the point I'm making is, the horror element is more importiant. Also, when did I say ecchi was bad? noteDhero said: That was not just hysterical, the way Rei was acting. She was flipping from one absurd reaction to the next. One moment she's playing a helpless imbecile, and the next she's an over-serious warrior, then to an angry bitch. Extreme lines like "You're a man aren't you?" Seemed hilariously inappropriate considering he's the only reason she's alive. The little scene at the end was also very disgusting. I think too many otaku men are happy with having exceptionally weaker/emotionally unstable women be lead characters that they think that it's totally fine that they be the norm. It's devastatingly low standards that border on misogyny. And you're asking the show to be compared to its predecessors instead of its contemporaries? That doesn't make much sense to me. I was a kid when I watched those, so I won't even really begin to try and compare the quality of nudity, or the sense of integrity (or gratuitousness it is shown). Either way, though, this has a distinctively Japanese way of animating boobs in a ridiculous fashion and showing panty shots where (in reality) there should be none. Also, for this to be set in modern times and have people not be sure of what those zombies are is ridiculous. Maybe Japan doesn't think of 'Zombie Apocalypse' scenarios like in America, but I expected differently from a country that gave us the Resident Evil and Dead Rising series. This, I agree with.;) |
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noteDhero said: I think too many otaku men are happy with having exceptionally weaker/emotionally unstable women be lead characters that they think that it's totally fine that they be the norm. It's devastatingly low standards that border on misogyny. Queen_Stars said: You should have high standards for women! That's his point.I don't have high standards for women. noteDhero said: The bolded part is what I find even more hilarious and inappropriate.Seemed hilariously inappropriate considering he's the only reason she's alive. When the zombies are more believable than the women, there's definitely a problem. |
sexiji said: Come on. Do you really think the male protagonist slapping some sense into the girl who rejected him is sexist? It's not like Takashi killed Rei's boyfriend (his 'best friend'), then reduced her to tearfully begging him not to abandon her. Rei's a fierce, independent woman who doesn't need a man by her side. :P Where did I say that the guy is sexist for slapping Rei, or that the show was sexist for that content? Nowhere. Rei desereved a slap (if not out and out death). The point is that the way women were characterized in comparison to men has tones of misogyny that I found uncomfortable and pandering to lonely heterosexual man-children. Rei's inconsistent portrayal as a way to 'depower' her especially unfortunate. This is no different that the discomfort I see when I watch ridiculously characterized boys in shounen-ai that is solely for pathetic fangirls. It's a detractor, plain and simple, and I find it funny/sad when people are quick to explain it away for anything more than it is. Edit: Just saw you posted before me, but I decided to keep it there for the main point, if anyone else needed clarification. |
sexiji said: noteDhero said: I think too many otaku men are happy with having exceptionally weaker/emotionally unstable women be lead characters that they think that it's totally fine that they be the norm. It's devastatingly low standards that border on misogyny. Queen_Stars said: You should have high standards for women! That's his point.I don't have high standards for women. I don't think so? The author (it seems to me) made out as if I expected too much (like a feminist?). My standards for women are neither high nor low, they're the same as my standards for male characters, I simply get bored of type-cast personality traits only girls seem to have (as much as I love shounen/seinen, they're the main culprits).:p |
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| just finished watching the ATX version.was thats really the uncensored version? looks like i'll have to wait for BD..oh well, i'll stick with the ATX version for now. after reading the manga and watching the first episode after reading it, I noticed, theres a lot more fanservice than in manga. its like, in every scene they show panties. its distracting me from "them" @_@ also, they cut almost 50% of the roof scene. in anime they just talked for a min and hisashi turned into them and komuro killed him. |
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Queen_Stars said: My point was that one should have high standards for women. For all characters, really -- men, women, and all anthropomorphized entities. You seem comfortable 'having neither high nor low standards,' but you say you're bored with some type-cast personality traits, so... *shrugs*I don't think so? The author (it seems to me) made out as if I expected too much (like a feminist?). My standards for women are neither high nor low, they're the same as my standards for male characters, I simply get bored of type-cast personality traits only girls seem to have (as much as I love shounen/seinen, they're the main culprits).:p noteDhero said: I thought adding the emoticon to the end of my post would reveal the lightheartedness of my tongue-in-cheek reply ^^ The construction of the situation is ridiculous and detracting in my mind, but that's the convention of the series, so I don't expect much. Don't worry, though -- the women will be empowered once they get their samurai swords, guns, orgy bus, etc. Hopefully their femininity won't betray them at the Worst Possible Moment™.Edit: Just saw you posted before me, but I decided to keep it there for the main point, if anyone else needed clarification. |
sexiji said: Queen_Stars said: My point was that one should have high standards for women. For all characters, really -- men, women, and all anthropomorphized entities. You seem comfortable 'having neither high nor low standards,' but you say you're bored with some type-cast personality traits, so... *shrugs*I don't think so? The author (it seems to me) made out as if I expected too much (like a feminist?). My standards for women are neither high nor low, they're the same as my standards for male characters, I simply get bored of type-cast personality traits only girls seem to have (as much as I love shounen/seinen, they're the main culprits).:p How can I discribe this?... I don't expet too much from a character, I'm not an over passionate person; - I get bored with the type casts who appear in every series, yet I won't let this spoil my enjoyment of a series - Characters have to impress me in order for my expectations to raise - When a really great character comes along, I'm happy Hope that helped.;) |
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| that was... INTENSE shit! my eyes were locked on the screen... i admit it that i kinda freaked out. such stuff is not my kind of thing, so i'm not sure how i feel about it yet. well it felt different and special and quite real for now, so i think i liked it... at the same time i disliked it too cause it was so so freakish! anyway... i think i'll give this a 4/5 and wait to see the next episode. |
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| Wow, I saw what the censored version looks like on sankakucomplex. Everything's just black; what's the point in airing it at all? |
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| i just find zombies with blood splurting hot, dying struggling anime chicks hot.. There's a few scenes with them trying to escape but end up as zombie food.. it was gooooood. i think this series gonna be somewhat similliar to elfen lied. With the boobs and detailed gore and all.. hmm.. wonder if i should read the manga.. |
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| ATXHD is just doing a DVD size upscaled version. no true HD for madhouse? |
| It will never end. And they say the fans are too obsessed -_-. Then what does that make the losers who make threads just to complain and whine. |
| 28 days later is awesome. So is this anime. |
| yep. The more something is popular the more trolls it attracts. They're like sharks drawn to a bleeding animal >_> |
| Agreed people jumped on the review button a bit too fast. Meh let's just look forward to Episode 2 when things REALLY kick into gear. |
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