| I just watched the highly raved about Rahxephon. I never take into account what people say when I rate a show, but it sucked. It really sucked. Obviously, it took a lot from Eva, but I have no idea how people think this show is better. I'll agree that Ayato has more balls at the end of the show than Shinji, but there are so many plot holes from pointless little bits of information that are given towards the end of the show. Most of these revolve around the Bahbem dude, or whatever his name was. Now instead of me just ranting forever about this show, could someone please explain to me why it was so good? I honestly don't see it. I'm all for people flaming me for not liking it, but I'm honestly asking someone to explain this show to me. I love involved shows that make you think, but the more I think about facets of this show, the more I am disappointed with it. -Jazz |
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jazzlsx said: I'll agree that Ayato has more balls at the end of the show than Shinji, but there are so many plot holes from pointless little bits of information that are given towards the end of the show. Most of these revolve around the Bahbem dude, or whatever his name was. Its been a long while since I've seen it, but I remember thinking the exact opposite, that NGE was the one that had plot holes which pissed off many (not me) and that RaXephon basically took the NGE formula and perfected it with better animation, narrative and resolution. Been a while since I've seen the show though, so I cant reply much or explain the story or anything. Google it if you're confused dude. Other than not liking the story, I dont think you can attack the show much, 'cause like I said: better animation, narrative and resolution. NGE fell off the rails, but it did it spectacularly and took the mecha genre in a new direction, but its certainly not perfect. Neither is RaXephon in my opinion, but definitely not deserving of mucho hate. |
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| I don't think that the story really has any plot holes, it's just that it's very complicated. It took me a few 2 or 3 times watching it and some supplemental reading material to understand everything. |
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| I agree that understanding the whole story is not easy and you'll have to do extra reading for the job, but why did they have to make things so complicated for the viewer? I think Rahxephon failed because it was complicated - but I still never wanted to know the answers to the questions it left behind. |
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puedjies said: I agree that understanding the whole story is not easy and you'll have to do extra reading for the job, but why did they have to make things so complicated for the viewer? I think Rahxephon failed because it was complicated - but I still never wanted to know the answers to the questions it left behind. The problem is that you shouldn't have to do extra reading to understand an anime. I'm okay with anime referencing literature or stuff like that, but having to do research for an anime to make sense is worthless. Bones failed big on this one. However, both Fullmetal Alchemist and Eureka Seven cancel out this failure. |
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| I just watched it, and it was an anime that failed to connect almost any episode to the next. This anime is just completely random, but that only works when an anime is supposed to be random, not when it is trying to be serious and grandiose. |
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| I don't really feel like going in to a "Why-RahXephon-is-the-best-anime-ever-and-far-superior-to-Evangelion"-argument right now, but some time back I found a review of the show at ANN, wich explains why RahXephon is totally awesome and should answer your question ^^ http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/review/rahxephon/dvd-7 "It is intelligent, touching, meaningful, beautifully animated, and superbly acted. It rises above its genre shackles and becomes something more than it is on the surface. It is unquestionably adult, and proves that animation is capable of telling stories that are unique and special to an educated and focused mind. Anime doesn't have to be scattershot, huge-breasts-huge-guns-collectable-card nonsense. It can be a thing of unrivalled artistic beauty. RahXephon proves that." |
| So is anyone actually going to say why they like this show? All I'm getting is that people like it because they want to sound intelligent and they didn't like Eva. No one has answered the question. Spoilers abound: Ok, I'm really tired of people telling me you have to think to like this show, as if it has some really complicated idea behind it. It's a happier version of Eva. Unlike Eva, it does not make people look depressing (aside from the main chic killing herself and the fact that two giant robots have to violate each other to decide how the world will be reinvented...yes...that was giant robot rape). The show is much prettier looking than Eva, then again, it came out seven years after Eva. However, the it's fight scenes suck. Naruto has better animated fight scenes. Still spoilers: The only part of the show that I enjoyed after the first episode, which had me hooked (later to heavily disappoint me), was when he brought his friend out of Tokyo-Jupiter and then proceeded to kill her. That was one of the greatest moments in an anime that I've ever seen. Despite that....THIS SHOW STILL SUCKS! |
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| Bear in mind, I have NOT seen NGE, so that might have been something to do with it, but I really liked this. I'd seen a lot of anime before this so I wasn't expecting to be "blown away" or have some sort of revelation like some of my friends said happened while watching NGE, having said that... From episode one, I just really, really liked it. At first you didn't know wtf was going on, neither did Ayato, and little by little things got explained, and while I didn't feel like I had to stress my mind, I also felt like I couldn't just sit and stare blankly; I had to think, but yes I agree it does feel a little convoluted at times. I liked a lot of the characters and didn't mind the mechas (I'm really not a big fan of mechas so when the giant robots come on screen I just sort of go 'meh'), but they all felt very real, well developed, etc. Ayato goes through a hell of a lot and I (personally anyway) connected to him, and I really like how all the other characters related to him. Especially near the last few episodes things seemed to tie up nicely. I didn't think anything was particularly bad about the story I thought it was pretty good, but I really don't have anything to compare it to, so what do I know? Characters aside, I liked the animation and the sound a LOT, and I was really taken aback with this series as a whole, knowing almost nothing going into it. I finished watching it recently and I agree I think I'll need to watch it again to 100% understand every little detail (I also agree that you should not EVER have to do anything external to understand a series) but this just, for lack of a less cheesy word, touched me unexpectedly. It is NOT the deepest/most philosophical 26 episode animated collection in existence. It is, however, in my humble opinion, a work of art. That's why I like Rahxephon. Hope that was helpful > ramble |
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| To be honest, I love RahXephon. It's easily one of my favorite shows and I believe you don't really need any extra reading with this. Yes, it is a lot like NGE but it succeeds everywhere Evangelion fails. The story is actually completed and it makes sense. The characters are great, from Kamina to the support characters who always try to influence him and he always reacts in such a human way. He's scared when I would be and fights when I would. It's easy to relate to someone like him. And because the character's feelings are so much more natural you can really appreciate the message of hope, freedom and everything else the show stands for. It kept my interest from the beginning to the end and the great animation and music only adds to the experience. The mechas look somewhat organic and have great designs and Borodin's music still lingers in my mind after years. Well, this is why I love RahXephon, hope you understand it a bit more now. I may be a bit biased but I do believe it deserves all the praise it gets. To me it's a piece of art. But that's just me though ^^ |
| (personal thinking): well i watch the first 7 episode and i feel like dropping it.. it makes me think why the hell did they made this anime 24 episode long ..... yea i have seen Evangelion and yes this anime is very much alike its like a copy almost. oh yea one question does this anime gets better starting from episode 7? |
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| I liked it cuase the story was interesting. Like, the plot was intriguing! How could people find it boring?! Soemthing new was popping up in every ep! Maybe this anime is liked by some but not by others. |
mycat8u said: Same here, but it's very obvious that a lot of it was taken from Eva and for that reason I didn't give it a very high rating.I liked it cuase the story was interesting. Like, the plot was intriguing! How could people find it boring?! Soemthing new was popping up in every ep! Maybe this anime is liked by some but not by others. |
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PeanutSteak said: Correction: they didn't take the plot from Eva. They took the Eva plot and improved on it. And really, that's what made it good. Also the animation quality, but that's an aside.... it's very obvious that a lot of it was taken from Eva and for that reason I didn't give it a very high rating. |
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| It's one of my top two anime series of all time. I watched it without comparing it to Neon Genesis Evangelion. Ayato Kamina is a realistic character and the overall atmosphere and execution of the plot is absolutely fantastic. The music and animation were great. The producers explicitly stated that they wanted to create something similar to NGE but improve the plot since NGE's ending episodes were just pathetic since there was so much potential. |
| I have to be honest here, after watching the first seven episodes, I put in on hold, but when I re-watched it I was completely hooked, I don't know about the rest of you, and It's been a while since I watched it now, but I can clearly remember the emotions that elavated in the last episodes, and how epic it felt, it was an ending that truly satisfied me, something that's rare in animation. And the characters felt so real, I know it sounds like I'm quoting everyone else here, but Ayato just filled the role perfectly, he behaved like a human, and I felt it was easy to relate to him, and the whole atmosphere of the series was one of a kind. |
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| RahXephon sucked yet you think Naruto is a Classic? Sure is troll around here. |
| I watched the entire series in one day. Not sure why, but after the very last scene of the final episode, I completely lost it. First and only anime thats made me literally weep. While I was watching it I didn't think I was really into it. But i guess I was. That's why I like it. |
| It felt like Neon Genesis Evangelion, except with a main character you actually have some emotional attachment to and with an ending that isn't an example of why you shouldn't spend your entire budget half way through and then piece together some random crap to form a total shit ending. |
Falatorx said: It felt like Neon Genesis Evangelion, except with a main character you actually have some emotional attachment to and with an ending that isn't an example of why you shouldn't spend your entire budget half way through and then piece together some random crap to form a total shit ending. The producers made RahXephon as a "enhanced" version of NGE. They still felt like they could have done a better job producing RahXephon. NGE and Kare Kano are two animes doomed by absolute awful second halves. |
| rahxephon was a simple re-imagination of NGE. it's obvious that it took alot of inspiration from the show. but that is not to say its unoriginal. the created seemed like they are big NGE fanboys but was disappointed with the ending therefore they established this show. trying to surpass and pretty much open the door to philosophical mecha genre. those who do not get NGE will have an easier time watching this show as it is simply and NGE-lite version. with a nice balance between philosophy and action. NGE was too heavy on the this, that, blah, blah. hence it failed in the end. NGE=people who loves to think Rahxephon=for people who want`s to understand NGE and not think deeply. |
| NGE gets a lot of love, but people forget that Neon was very random. Only half the episodes were preplanned. They weren't even certain how they were going to end it. RaXephon went in with everything figured out from beginning to end. So while some say that NGE is heavy duty thinking in comparison to RaXephon, I have to disagree, NGE is harder to follow because it lacked a clear direction later on in the project. |
PeanutSteak said: mycat8u said: Same here, but it's very obvious that a lot of it was taken from Eva and for that reason I didn't give it a very high rating.I liked it cuase the story was interesting. Like, the plot was intriguing! How could people find it boring?! Soemthing new was popping up in every ep! Maybe this anime is liked by some but not by others. this this this (spoiler) But really the only reason I liked it in the end was the fact that Kamina ended up looking like Itsuki. I'm a sucker for timeskip. |
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| Sorry for not answering your question so directly, but I felt the need to comment after reading through a lot of replies. This is also partly due to the fact that I haven't finished watching this series just yet. The fact that some of you feel the need to 'play favorites' between two forms of artwork is simply a sign of immaturity. As I watched the series, I see how they took elements from EVA and spun a totally different series. The fact that you can boil down EVA to being just these simple elements, and thus framing them as things that RahXephon stole, is both disappointing and disrespectful to the creators of EVA. This is why I frown upon things like genre fans, in this case 'mecha fandom'. It is nice to prefer things that are in a certain genre and formula, but I think why a lot of people liked EVA is because it expanded the 'mecha anime' framework exponentially and thus in a way created a new framework. Just because RahXephon takes the framework of EVA (and doesn't explicitly provide new elements for later series to use and build upon), does not in any way make it a lesser version or ripoff. It's important to remember the saying, the whole is more than the sum of its parts. After all said and done however, people are entitled to their opinions no matter how ignorant, articulate or generalizing they may be. Also, while I agree that it is frustrating when people try to present themselves as intelligent, or like certain things because they want to seem intelligent (fronting if you will), I don't think there is anything wrong with someone genuinely wanting to present an intelligent statement on something as opposed to sounding like an idiot. |
| The comment about Rahxephon being "the scene kids version of NGE is laughable." Hello, reality calling, NGE is the scene kids version of NGE. NGE is the emperor's new clothes. It is popular to like NGE and so like the famous tale people try to get some hidden meaning out of it that makes up for how horrible the ending was. Then of course there are the people who pretend to like NGE which leads to sort of a circle of people pretending to like it because it is popular which then makes it popular and so on... The fact is NGE's ending is barely animated and is just a collection of random scenes that someone talks over for a couple episodes. Anime snobs may tell you that if you don't worship this ending, you just aren't smart enough to "get it" or you're "childish." Sadly neither level of understanding or age help an ending so bad that it had two or so remakes and even then it was still painfully bad. It really says something that even few fans of the series think the ending was any good at all. I also liked that Rahxephon had more of a focus on plot/story where as NGE was more of a "monster of the week" show with significantly worse characters. Maybe i'll check out the new movies since i heard they cut out most of the main character's constant emo whining, but i'd worry about how much dialogue is actually left in NGE in that case. I do want to see what they do with that piece of shit ending though. p.s. NGE is to Rahxephon like naruto is to claymore. |
Falatorx said: The comment about Rahxephon being "the scene kids version of NGE is laughable." Hello, reality calling, NGE is the scene kids version of NGE. NGE is the emperor's new clothes. It is popular to like NGE and so like the famous tale people try to get some hidden meaning out of it that makes up for how horrible the ending was. Then of course there are the people who pretend to like NGE which leads to sort of a circle of people pretending to like it because it is popular which then makes it popular and so on... The fact is NGE's ending is barely animated and is just a collection of random scenes that someone talks over for a couple episodes. Anime snobs may tell you that if you don't worship this ending, you just aren't smart enough to "get it" or you're "childish." Sadly neither level of understanding or age help an ending so bad that it had two or so remakes and even then it was still painfully bad. It really says something that even few fans of the series think the ending was any good at all. I also liked that Rahxephon had more of a focus on plot/story where as NGE was more of a "monster of the week" show with significantly worse characters. Maybe i'll check out the new movies since i heard they cut out most of the main character's constant emo whining, but i'd worry about how much dialogue is actually left in NGE in that case. I do want to see what they do with that piece of shit ending though. p.s. NGE is to Rahxephon like naruto is to claymore. You sum up my feelings pretty well on the NGE / Rahzephon argument. I don't know how many times I've come across people raving about how amazing NGE was but when I ask what the ending meant to them they simply trail off in endless blabber about how I'd have to see it to understand, which I have countless times and I still think it was a horrible ending where the producers where hoping people wouldn't notice. With that said, Rahxephon's ending was way more understandable then NGE but still very confusing at the same time. I'm still not 100% sure what happened at the end of Rahxephon in terms of character changes. I understand the general conclusion of the story but I'm not sure why character's names and "souls" where changed and switched around. If someone could explain I'd be very happy. |
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| What upsets me is that people seem to overlook EoE. |
| Even with the reworked endings (it was reworked twice, right?), the ending was still merely poor at best. Maybe the movie version will change it, but from what i recall it won't reach the end for quite some white. |
| Sure is ignorance in here. NGEs ending is, as we call it in advanced cineast-speak, "insanely well-directed." It does not give a closure to the subplot (Angels attacking Toukyou), it gives closure to the main plot (how fucked in the head everyone are and how they need to resolve that). Statements to the contrary unveils merely a narrow view of narrative and i suggest those go back to a plot that will be sufficiently closed, like Fullmetal Alchemist, and leave the other endings to those who can appreciate shows with guts to go past the narrative paradigm that has ruled us since Homeros. Saying that NGE had a poor ending is like saying high-quality ninety-percent cocoa chocolate is bad because it isn't as sweet as milk chocolate. And then we have EoE, one of the greatest movies overall, despite being a cartoon. To say THAT has a poor ending is evident said person possibly didn't think 2001 was good because the ending sucked. Well, if you can't see good directing when it is laid out in front of you like a wonderful smörgåsbordsbuffet all-you-can-eat, then I cannot help you, go to Futakoi and call that one well-directed instead. As for RahXephon: It was well-directed, that was all it had going for it. The characters were shallow at best, the storytelling most average and the plot, while nicely convoluted, didn't really have much to speak for it in terms of execution. The artsy moments were there to be artsy, not to get a point across, I found (OH HAI I ARE A CLEVUR WING MOTIF USING PAINTING HURR DURR). Not bad, almost good, definitely fine. |
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Falatorx said: Even with the reworked endings (it was reworked twice, right?), the ending was still merely poor at best. Maybe the movie version will change it, but from what i recall it won't reach the end for quite some white. Once. EoE was how the ending was meant to be. Just consider the last two episodes of the series to be the characters experiencing instrumentality. Rebuild is what Anno wanted Evangelion to be like in the first place, or so I heard. |
IiotokoJul 4, 2009 8:45 AM
| Wow you actually think the characters (can you even name one character in NGE that was anywhere near likable?) and storytelling in NGE was better? "Oh no there is an angel, lets attack it! oh no now i'm emo *REPEAT, oops now it is the ending, lets throw some random crap together real fast." Perfect example of EoE being the emperor's new clothes. "You don't find it good because you don't 'get it'" Don't talk to me about high quality characters when the main character dialogue almost entirely consist of him being emo and whining the entire time. Not to mention that moronic scene where he visits his female friend in the hospital. I suppose that is NGE's idea of romance? I guess i was counting death and rebirth as one of the remakes of the ending, but EoE included the ending part i think so i suppose i will leave it at one. |
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| Likeable characters != good characters, dear. Because, well, you know, most actual human beings are easily as messed-up and unlikeable as the ones in NGE. And who said anything about the story being good? Also, Kaworu was likeable. |
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Kaiserpingvin said: Sure is ignorance in here. NGEs ending is, as we call it in advanced cineast-speak, "insanely well-directed." It does not give a closure to the subplot (Angels attacking Toukyou), it gives closure to the main plot (how fucked in the head everyone are and how they need to resolve that). Statements to the contrary unveils merely a narrow view of narrative and i suggest those go back to a plot that will be sufficiently closed, like Fullmetal Alchemist, and leave the other endings to those who can appreciate shows with guts to go past the narrative paradigm that has ruled us since Homeros. Saying that NGE had a poor ending is like saying high-quality ninety-percent cocoa chocolate is bad because it isn't as sweet as milk chocolate. And then we have EoE, one of the greatest movies overall, despite being a cartoon. To say THAT has a poor ending is evident said person possibly didn't think 2001 was good because the ending sucked. Well, if you can't see good directing when it is laid out in front of you like a wonderful smörgåsbordsbuffet all-you-can-eat, then I cannot help you, go to Futakoi and call that one well-directed instead. As for RahXephon: It was well-directed, that was all it had going for it. The characters were shallow at best, the storytelling most average and the plot, while nicely convoluted, didn't really have much to speak for it in terms of execution. The artsy moments were there to be artsy, not to get a point across, I found (OH HAI I ARE A CLEVUR WING MOTIF USING PAINTING HURR DURR). Not bad, almost good, definitely fine. I'm sorry but the way they did the ending in the series was mediocre, poor at best. Showing split screens and listening to characters talk to Shinji for 2 episodes just to show how detached he was from the world was not a good idea for an ending. In fact the producers have even admitted to this countless times. This is why they're attempting to remake the show via the new movies. End of Evangelion (EoE) on the other hand had an understandable and clear ending. Listening to you bash RahXephon makes it sound like your a NGE fan which I'm guessing you are. RahXephon's story was done nicely but I agree it could have been done a little better. The characters where far from shallow though. Ayato's personality was believable and changed throughout the series to reflect how he was growing and learning about his surroundings. Shinji (NGE) on the other hand stayed emo and submissive throughout the whole series. The same can be said for the other side characters. I liked both Rah and NGE but I found Rah's story and character development more interesting. |
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| I was speaking of the ending in the series, yes. First of all, mediocre would be better than "poor", though that is irrelevant. They did not admit it was a bad idea, all they admitted was that they ran out of budget (as GAINAX tend to do). Indeed Anno even called those who hated the ending out for having no self-respect. The movies are a total revisioning; what the show would have been if Anno didn't get a severe suicidal depression. Which in many ways was a good thing he got; the themes and probing of NGE are nothing short of incredible, and quite possibly a great help for some depressed people. Certainly was for me. I don't bash RahXephon, really, it was a fine series with severe failings and nice touches (episode where the city lights form messages? Genius). It doesn't compare to NGE, which actually cares about structure and core ideas, while RahXephon is all windowdressing. Nifty ideas without structure, ideas not made part of the work but applied to it. And re: Shinji, eat your heart out. |
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| I'm halfway through... and so far its basically if NGE was NGE... but was really really really dull and boring. Not really a fan so far. I didn't really start comparing it to NGE until the episode he gets caught within his own mind back in Tokyo Jupiter,, but the show was still boring the hell out of me before I made the comparison. |
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| What a sad show. Living only to fulfill something programmed by a senile old mulian is quite depressing. Fortunately, Ayato could at the very ending decide his own future. |
MinoruSep 8, 2009 7:10 PM
| For me RahXephon is the romantic version of NGE, with an harem going on in the background; three girls expressed their love for him, one was close and the last didn't get enough time near him. I didn't like him; he was a little too good to be real, and the rest was also shallow. It felt unnecesary extended to 26 episodes. With half it could've been fine. Also, why the main characters' background changed between tv-movie-manga? There must be differences to sell and please other people, but I see it like they were not too devoted to it in the first place -like a guy selling balloons with animal figures, and asking if you like this, that or maybe those. At times their singing was detestable, and it got worse at the end with the incestuous and not at all sexy fight-and-concert scene. But anyway, it was a better way to kill time than watching some random ecchi anime with tits going boing, boing before being pressed against some worthless guy's arm. Not a lot better, because both would still be boring and partially predictable. |
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| what's so great about Rah.? NOTHING!! boring characters, story and symbolisms. Eva > Rah |
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| This post is present at NGE forums as well. Many statements here are from "evangelion overrated ??!!" forum at NGE's section. As a RahXephon fan I feel the need to ask for you guys (fans or non fans of NGE), why do you think NGE is so much superior in comparision to Rah. It would be nice to hear arguments here since looks like most of NGE fans bashes Rah for really stupid reasons, without many convincing arguments to sustain their point of view. Let me explain. Obs: I am not questioning NGE’s quality, I am not denying its influence or something like that, and I didn’t say it is inferior to Rah either, even if I like Rah more( I’m not crazy, statistically speaking there are like 50 NGE fans per 1 Rah fan). I just want to know why so much hate, since I failed to see where is some concrete reason for so much hate. Our friend here says: ”PsajdakRahXephon” said: >>>>>>>>>> NGE So comes another and says: Tabris-kun said: That's fine if you liked Rah better, but Rah certainly isn't as deep and doesn't have as much visual meaning; Rah is merely superficial, while NGE has 4 or 5 levels of depth. Rah is clearly a copy of NGE also. Really? Do you really think NGE is better than Rah just because you think that the 1st one is deeper than the other?What depht means to you? That's just a poor/ laughable excuse. Saying that show A is better than show B just because is “deeper” isn’t right (Lucky Star, Kon! and most moe comedies are shallow, but hey I know tons of people who prefer these comedies over NGE and Rah). And one more thing, just because NGE entered on the characters mind (psychological) doesn’t mean that is deeper than the others who didn’t enter into the characters mind. Tabris-kun said: "NGE" :When I first watched it, I couldn't identify its depth/visual meaning, but I still enjoyed it very much because even on a superficial level it's great IMO. Couldn't this statement be valid for Rah too? I mean the 1st time you watched NGE you didn't understand everything either, but you understood after rewatching. Yet you say Rah is "shallow" (for me it's implicit you said that) after watching one time (if you rewatch it, maybe you could identify it's depth, don't you think? Or is this valid only and exclusively for NGE?) Another thing that bothers me is that many Eva fans seems to treat RahXephon fans like some kind of idiots just because they like Rah more. The most common excuse is that we, Rah fans, failed to understand NGE’s plot (that’s so not true). I like NGE and I had no major problems to understand it (maybe a bit, but I looked for some answer on the net, currently rewatching for better understanding) but I think Rah is superior in terms of direction, coherent plotline, cast and mainly ending, not to mention it was more fulfilling than NGE (watched both animes twice, and yes I’ve seen NGE movies, EoE is indeed awesome, I have to rewatch it cause it’s been so long since I’ve seen it), so what? Does that make me mentally inferior to someone who like NGE better? Really when you post something to answer this post, do not treat me like I if I am some kind of jerk. One thing that I learned is that NGE fans tends to despise everything bad that people says about NGE (if someone says that the story sucks, the answer will be on 99,99% of the cases: you are a idiot and didn’t understand the masterpiece brilliant best story ever made by humankind that NGE is or you didn’t like the direction), but when its time to say bad things about Rah, ohh boy EVA fans are excellent on bashing it with their selfish, and often poor, opinions, even if someone says otherwise, no matter what. @Ezaya: stop trolling on Rah’s forum ok. How can you possibly say that Rah’s story sucks without even finishing it? Your posts on Rah’s forum insulted me, as a Rah’s fan, you know? (“It's impossible to understand Evangelion if you can't figure this [RahXephon] out.”)? You’re still watching Rah and it is far from finishing it!! I’m fine with those which didn’t like Rah cause they think the plot and the cast is boring, with a bad pacing and etc, and I accept that, even because you’re free to think whatever you want, but what I can’t accept is that someone that didn’t even have the decency to finish it could possibly have an formed opinion about the story as a whole. Grow up, really. Plus, accordingly to MAL stats, something around 60,000 people watched NGE but only 2,150 dropped (3,5% drop rate), but Rah, around 12,000 watched but 1,230 dropped (10,2% drop rate). Wow, huge difference. The reason for that is it is not hard to find someone who gave a 10 for NGE and dropped Rah after a couple of eps, giving it a low score (a 3 or something around that) and tagged as “Fail EVA parody”. What the hell? How can people say Rah failed as a EVA parody after only 3 or 4 eps?! This sounds so stupid 4 me... people should be ashamed of their pathetic attitude. Another thing is: look for any anime review site on the net. I still haven’t found ANY site that put NGE above Rah. In fact, all sites about anime reviews I visited gave a higher mark to Rah. Of course that doesn’t imply that you have to agree with them, but you do have to see that not only one, but most of the reviews on the net says that is worthy watching Rah, so that means Rah is not just a mere shallow copy, it’s an anime that is great on its own, full of meaning and the story it is complex and well directed (don’t tell me the story of NGE is far superior, I would be rich if I earned a cent everytime someone says this). Example: why does Shinji is the one can pilot EVA? Because the creators want to. Why does Ayato is the one who can pilot Rah? I won’t spoil here, but I can guarantee you that there is an coherent and believable explanation for this. Example 2: What are Angels and where they came from? Who knows… What are Mu and where they came from? It is explained on the middle eps (yeah the explanation for their existence is preety lame, but at least it does have one). What was the purpose of Bahbein foundation, why does Tokyo Jupiter exist, who is Mishima Reika, WTF happened at the ending? My friend, if you don’t know the answers then I can guarantee you that you failed miserably to understand Rah’s story. I have much more examples here but I won’t write it cause I already wrote a lot. If anyone wants to know more, feel free to ask, but don’t believe the majority (Rah it is indeed well written and well directed, but gets preety dismissed for some really annoying reasons). Overral I am not saying Rah is original, and I didn’t say that Rah is superior (unlike most fans, I do respect people’s opinions; I am not the type of fan that starts saying some bland excuse to justify the reason I prefer an anime over another one; on this case, Rah over NGE). It’s all right not to like Rah, or NGE, all I need is that someone who can answer my questions without using fanboyish statements as an argument (“Ahh is deeper, ahh is more entertaining, ahh because it came first, Rah only copied, ahh because you’re too stupid to understand it blablabla”). ”HooHiraiBunny” said: And it's ranked #130, for a series well-known like Evangelion it's clearly a bad rank. Tabris-kun said: Probably because the vast majority of people who've seen NGE don't understand it. Bad rank? Nah that’s an ok rank (today the rank is even worse). Just because is well-know that doesn’t mean that is a great anime (not going to give u examples of how many mediocre animes are well-know, but we all know there are a lot of these animes nowadays). There are superior stuff out there IMO. And even more people who’ve seen Rah don’t understand it either (but hey, who cares about Rah, don’t you think? ¬¬) ”Hybrid00” said: It only sucks if you're to stupid to understand it. Brilliant argument fanboy. ”Haylias” said: Typical elitist "you don't understand my anime thats why you don't like it bawww!" bs Eva fan. Honestly, it is good, but it is highly overrated Tabris-kun said: Then state why it's overrated in a logical way rather than blurting out your opinion. Honestly, I don't see the logical way you justified that NGE is better than Rah, Tabris-Kun. All you said is that NGE is more deeper and thats it. Just a poor excuse (read what I wrote at this post). Psychodrake said: People who just didn't understand it generally - Thats fine. It'll definitely seem overrated to these people. But the people who know the story will disagree with them. People who worship the series are just as bad. I totally agree with you man. I think that this statement is valid for every anime out there. |
GuigasApr 6, 2012 5:45 PM
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