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Dec 17, 2008 12:21 PM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Not impressed at all. I could deal with the fact that Revy had crazy super human powers, because it was entertaining. These kids cross the line. It is just fucking stupid.

No new intro either, which is kind of a piss off. The current one is crap. The lyrics are in English and the singer can not even pronounce the words correctly. That is always a piss of for me, because good singers take classes to learn how to pronounce words in other languages while singing.



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Dec 30, 2008 4:36 PM
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lol....

Creepy twins right from The Shining...
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Jan 11, 2009 4:57 PM
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Those two are f***d up.. reminds me of the incest kids from shakugan no shana
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No new intro either, which is kind of a piss off. The current one is crap. The lyrics are in English and the singer can not even pronounce the words correctly. That is always a piss of for me, because good singers take classes to learn how to pronounce words in other languages while singing.
Though she can't quite pronounce it, it's still a badass song.
Jan 16, 2009 11:55 AM
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The kids aren't legitimate vampires, are they? Kinda weird, but I thought it was pretty funny when the little girl whipped out that huge ass machine gun and started letting loose.
Apr 15, 2009 7:37 PM
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Okay, that's screwed up. This clearly isn't as good as the first season (although it's hardly a second season, the episode said it was number 13.)

Eeeek scary shota-loli incest assassin duo. I think they could be good characters as long as they don't outstay their welcome. They work as extremely scary Higurashi-like children, but their presence could be meh in a show about crime.


Jul 11, 2009 9:24 AM
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I like how the first season flows right into the second... and those creepy ass loli twins are sick little bastards... but I kind of like them...
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Aug 14, 2009 12:52 PM
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Twins, mad, incestuous and seriously delusional... i like them *_*
and btw their nationality, i couldn't believe it... all those "frate mai mic" and "sora mai mare"and "buna seara"...

It means "little brother", "big sister" and "goodnight". It was really interesting and refreshing hearing my mother-tongue in an anime [this is the first time]
I find it creepy and also cool thinking that people from the same country as me could do things like that. I'm really excited to see what happens next ^_^!




Aug 20, 2009 9:36 AM
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This episode was truly disgusting both because of what it showed and what it implied. There are no excuses for associating little children and their laughter with such horrid bloodshed and madness. I don't know what message the authors are trying to get through (perhaps soldier children) but, whatever it is, they are inexcusable.
The scenes, apart from being horrifying, were also completely ridiculous. For instance such small children wielding huge guns and not even moving from the kickback! It seems this series has decided to completely cut any link to reality and become a madman's gore fest.
I hope the next episode will somehow redeem the show though I seriously doubt it.
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Aug 20, 2009 9:40 AM
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This episode was truly disgusting both because of what it showed and what it implied. There are no excuses for associating little children and their laughter with such horrid bloodshed and madness. I don't know what message the authors are trying to get through (perhaps soldier children) but, whatever it is, they are inexcusable.
The scenes, apart from being horrifying, were also completely ridiculous. For instance such small children wielding huge guns and not even moving from the kickback! It seems this series has decided to completely cut any link to reality and become a madman's gore fest.
I hope the next episode will somehow redeem the show though I seriously doubt it.


Im pretty sure it already has been unrealistic when they flew their ship 100 meters into the air and unleashed a missle on a helicopter
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Aug 20, 2009 10:05 AM
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Any art work, story or depiction is never perfectly realistic, by definition, and Black Lagoon is no exception. The show has been very unrealistic many times but it still tried to maintain a link to the real world. What I said in my post is that it seemed they had decided to get rid ofwhatever realism there was left in the show to become a crudely violent rant. Had they decided to change the tone to symbolism they might have been better off...
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Aug 20, 2009 11:05 AM
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porkypink said:
kerlyenai said:
This episode was truly disgusting both because of what it showed and what it implied. There are no excuses for associating little children and their laughter with such horrid bloodshed and madness. I don't know what message the authors are trying to get through (perhaps soldier children) but, whatever it is, they are inexcusable.
The scenes, apart from being horrifying, were also completely ridiculous. For instance such small children wielding huge guns and not even moving from the kickback! It seems this series has decided to completely cut any link to reality and become a madman's gore fest.
I hope the next episode will somehow redeem the show though I seriously doubt it.


Im pretty sure it already has been unrealistic when they flew their ship 100 meters into the air and unleashed a missle on a helicopter


That's absolutely true about when they flew their ship 100 meters. None of it was that realistic in the first place, but I don't care if its realistic or not because it's an anime show. I personally, liked this episode a lot. Creepy. BUT I do kind of miss it being just a bunch of gunfighting and shit. And I don't think this is discusting. Because isn't Gunslinger Girl about little girl assassins?
Aug 20, 2009 11:16 AM
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You should perhaps have read my answer to the previous post...
Anyway, I have never watched "Gunsliger girl" but if it is anything like these last episodes then it is probably quite disgusting. In fact, if there isn't even an underlying truthful message then "Gunsliger Gir" is probably quite worse than these episodes of Black Lagoon. But, once again, I couldn't say as I have never watched that show, the name itself was so stupid and horrible, I did not feel like trying.
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Aug 21, 2009 9:55 AM
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kerlyenai said:
You should perhaps have read my answer to the previous post...
Anyway, I have never watched "Gunsliger girl" but if it is anything like these last episodes then it is probably quite disgusting. In fact, if there isn't even an underlying truthful message then "Gunsliger Gir" is probably quite worse than these episodes of Black Lagoon. But, once again, I couldn't say as I have never watched that show, the name itself was so stupid and horrible, I did not feel like trying.


It is.. just anime. You don't gotta make a big deal about it, not like it's real children. Even though children can kill in real life. But whatever, you got a right to your opinion.
Aug 21, 2009 2:40 PM
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Well we all have different sensibilities and sometimes material may seem to shocking to one while perfedtly harmless to another. I was of course only voicing my opinion and not trying to impose my view.
By the way, I thank you for acknowledging my right to express my opinion. :)
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porkypink said:
kerlyenai said:
This episode was truly disgusting both because of what it showed and what it implied. There are no excuses for associating little children and their laughter with such horrid bloodshed and madness. I don't know what message the authors are trying to get through (perhaps soldier children) but, whatever it is, they are inexcusable.
The scenes, apart from being horrifying, were also completely ridiculous. For instance such small children wielding huge guns and not even moving from the kickback! It seems this series has decided to completely cut any link to reality and become a madman's gore fest.
I hope the next episode will somehow redeem the show though I seriously doubt it.


Im pretty sure it already has been unrealistic when they flew their ship 100 meters into the air and unleashed a missle on a helicopter


You know, it's funny how these things work. I've never had a problem with the jump itself, but I never could get over the fact that it didn't shear off their prop. That scene is forever ruined because of those lazily spinning propellers as they sail through the air.
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Aug 21, 2009 4:34 PM
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kerlyenai said:
Well we all have different sensibilities and sometimes material may seem to shocking to one while perfedtly harmless to another. I was of course only voicing my opinion and not trying to impose my view.
By the way, I thank you for acknowledging my right to express my opinion. :)


Your welcome, I always acknowledge that because it's true. Everyone has a right to their opinion whether you like it or not. And suppose we all do have different sensibilities.
Sep 8, 2009 2:17 PM

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I hated it =( I AM a sensible person, and I agree it is disgusting. Don't want to moralize. It was also boring for me, because those vampire-incest-overcruel twins are almost traditional characters in the anime of another type, and Black Lagoon has been something of another kind to me. Probably they have changed the director for the second season? Shitty

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Sep 8, 2009 2:20 PM

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Lol vampires


Why do people keep mistaking them as vampires?
They are not.
They are just two really fucked up kids.

Stuff is exagerated in this anime a lot but theres no fictional stuff.
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Oct 3, 2009 8:13 AM

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Hmm i don't know i enjoyed this quite a lot. I've always enjoyed the fucked up side of things though.

OP still rules. I also love how the ending music starts in this anime, closes off the show so well.
Dec 9, 2009 9:35 PM

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Cool they kept the Op from the first Season..
The twins are just plain creepy..
Dec 20, 2009 10:03 PM

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I actually don't really have a problem with the twins.
Except for the fact that that little girl would not have been able to fire that gun...
Otherwise they really don't bother me.

actually I also want to comment on an earlier post about gunslinger girl.
Those children were awful because they were devoid of feeling.
The Twins are more natural because at least they are doing it
for themselves instead of taking orders.
That is the difference for me

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Feb 6, 2010 1:45 PM

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I actually really enjoyed this ep. The creepy, screwed up twins makes for a decent arc.





Mar 15, 2010 12:24 AM
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Those kids creep the f*** out of me! I'm a little disappointed about the whole vampire thing because they seem to be in everything, but I still love Black Lagoon.


Mar 15, 2010 7:55 PM

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nice ep, was expecting something messed up and gore when seeing the edgar allan poe reference in the beginning.
May 1, 2010 6:29 AM

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To people who thought that Black Lagoon was realistic:



Seriously, I never saw anything in this series that would show that author cares about realism. The only thing the mangaka seem to care is badasness and action. The "Vampire Twins" fit the story perfectly.
May 8, 2010 6:29 PM

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Hot.
May 20, 2010 6:53 PM

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Creeptastic. Otherwise no complaints.
Such junk...
Jun 19, 2010 1:07 PM

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Shakugan No Shana anyone?
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Jul 20, 2010 9:08 PM

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So i start watching this, trying not to instantly downrate it to 1 ... but couldn't help it once they set that retarded kiddy action in motion. -.-

Oh well, next episode.
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Aug 7, 2010 5:50 PM

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Balalaika is scary
And the children are crazy
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Oct 13, 2010 12:18 AM

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Fucked up kids are awesome. <3

Only in anime though.
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Nov 23, 2010 12:57 PM

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Awesome creepy kids. I don't personally understand the big fuss over the kids, It's only an anime, you must've seen waaaaaaay worse things in reality surely? This isn't an anime intended for 10 year olds so I don't mind it being a bit more risque at times.

But hey, like people have said before, that's you opinion and you are entitled to it.
Dec 14, 2010 5:09 AM

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LOL the vampires are Romanian xD
this is not stereotypical at all -_-,but i'm happy they mentioned my country anyway :D(or at least some phrases,that were funny very well said,even the accent was good!)

5/5
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Dec 20, 2010 6:01 PM
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I find it amusing to see a kid with a m249 saw when a kid that age wouldn't even be able to handle the recoil on a barret pistol or such...

10 year old girl firing a m249 from the hip... >.> oh dear children oh dear.. Child would be knocked off her feet from the first round
Dec 20, 2010 6:02 PM
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oh wait, it's a BAR... ok even larger recoil than a SAW in that case...
Jan 12, 2011 6:08 AM

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"Ladies aren't supposed to carry heavy things"

Lets off a round from one of the biggest guns i've seen in my life.

I totally thought of Shakugan no Shana when i saw those creepy twins ^^
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Feb 27, 2011 11:54 AM
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There is literally nothing I hate more in anime than this shitty archetype of "an insane shota and loli who are also incestuous and invincible". Nothing. I hope they get killed in the most brutal way possible without any censors or I'm gonna have to think about dropping this shit right here.
Mar 13, 2011 11:22 AM

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BAR rifles weight atleast 20 kg, so using them that like means they're strong enough to atleast stay standing.
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Mar 17, 2011 3:02 PM

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I had doubts I was watching second season because it has the same opening. And yes those kids are creepy. They look like the Yosuga no Sora twins!
Apr 7, 2011 11:25 AM

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First Nazis, now vampires. Hellsing anyone?

Those kids sure are creepy, I'll give it the benefit of the doubt and see where all this leads to.

One things that's still great about this series, is the huge amount of nationalities seen (there's no good or bad here, so it works even better) and the lot of references to American movies in general, It's always amusing spotting those out.
Jun 22, 2011 9:30 AM

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If these kids really turn out to be vampires, I'm dropping this, no matter how much I enjoyed and loved first season. Invincible vampire kids are both annoying and cliché, I can have that in any other anime.
Jan 19, 2012 5:48 AM
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Love how the Russian mobsters scare the crap out of everyone.

Vampires?
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Apr 13, 2012 10:13 PM

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lol Clint Eastwood and a bunch of "The Shining" references.

Episode wasn't that great though.
Apr 14, 2012 2:04 AM

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Lol funny seeing that the twins are romanians like me o.0
Apr 20, 2012 5:19 AM

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its fine...
Aug 9, 2012 6:40 PM

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Balalaika looks furious as ever O____O

yay Eda!!!!

didn't notice her boosoms are big as that :D

i wonder how the Lagoon group will solve this.

what's up with the fucking haters lately??

the show is not trying to be realistic, even though it still tries to maintain a link to the real world.

plus it's only anime, what's up with the constant bitching about small details all of a sudden??

yet i rarely see any those complaints like Naruto, Bleach, and other anime's

oh what's that?? it's not trying to be realistic??

YOU DON"T SAY???? :O

for me while the kids are freaking creep, it didn't bother me at all.

sure there fucked up and sadistic, but it nothing cringe worthy like some people love act like it.

the laugh while irritating, is definitely freaking scary as hell.

also that english song, while having accent, is cool to hear.

the brother and sister singing sadistically as they poke the hell out of that person is just wow.

then again after finishing watching Shiki especially Ep 14, it's hard to cringe at other gory anime's now :\

still it's definitely interesting to see Vampires(??) in this anime.

guess we have Gang lords, Mafia, Nazi's, Nuns, Strippers, Maid's and now Vampires.

we just need Ghost and Goblins ha :P
Sep 6, 2012 4:41 AM

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I liked this ep a lot.

the twins are creepy and very interesting for the series, i dont know why people were hating them for being vampires (they could be fake vampires, not the fictional ones).

Black lagoon wasn't made to be realistic, The loveless maid, shows it.

Dont compare lagoon with the reality, just because little twins appeared to be sadic an crazy.
Sep 19, 2012 8:08 AM

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Whoa, these twins are completely fucked up...
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