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Mar 31, 2008 11:33 PM

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kma23 said:
I'm not watching this episode till conclave releases it I'm tired of nyoro abusing my GUNDAMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You can watch Nyoro's version, and then rewatch the episode, once Conclave releases it =P
Apr 1, 2008 1:43 AM
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Doesn't really matter since they don't talk much. Even if it's not word by word, you gotta be pretty stupid to misunderstand. Regardless, ep 25 was the first Nyoro~n release that I downloaded since episode 8.

And no, there is no Gundam 00 manga -___-". I wonder how that would work.
Apr 1, 2008 6:47 AM

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Requal said:
Doesn't really matter since they don't talk much. Even if it's not word by word, you gotta be pretty stupid to misunderstand. Regardless, ep 25 was the first Nyoro~n release that I downloaded since episode 8.

And no, there is no Gundam 00 manga -___-". I wonder how that would work.

what do you mean no 00 manga ?
what's 00F then ? or even the one adapting the anime ?

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Apr 1, 2008 2:07 PM

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Aaaah, I will miss the opening and ending, they were one of the best ever. 6 months to wait T_T they're lucky code geass is veeeery near
Apr 1, 2008 2:47 PM

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kurotsuki said:
Requal said:
Doesn't really matter since they don't talk much. Even if it's not word by word, you gotta be pretty stupid to misunderstand. Regardless, ep 25 was the first Nyoro~n release that I downloaded since episode 8.

And no, there is no Gundam 00 manga -___-". I wonder how that would work.

what do you mean no 00 manga ?
what's 00F then ? or even the one adapting the anime ?

I just read the 00F one what is the name of the 'one adapting the anime'?

Dibs on Ishida!
Apr 1, 2008 4:05 PM
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keeps on gettin better.

cannot wait for ss2. looks like some of the characters that were supposedly "kia" are still alive :p (graham, tieria, etc..)

epic ending.
Apr 1, 2008 4:17 PM

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Sukotsutsu said:
The 2 main baddies for the beginning of the season are going to be either Ali or Grahamm.


Don't forget about Ribbons and his harem.

I just hope that for the second season, Nena stays the hell out of a Gundam.

Apr 1, 2008 6:02 PM
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so this means that setsuna is officially dead? ARGH!
Apr 1, 2008 6:07 PM

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Alpha_522 said:
so this means that setsuna is officially dead? ARGH!

where does it say that Setsuna is officialy dead? I'm positive he's still alive. The only meister confirmed KIA to my knowledge is Lockon, with a decently high probability that Tieria might be dead too (if the talk about that person with Louise not being Tieria is correct).
Apr 1, 2008 6:19 PM

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And just when I thought we were going to be able to break free of the Gundam motifs...
Finally, we find out what all of this "00" business is! "0" Gundam does look a lot like the RX-78. It's no surprise it doesn't look very flashy, considering it was the first made by CB. The first word out of my mouth when I saw it, though, was "Zero." Prolly 'cause of the head design, but I wouldn't be surprised if this was used to bolster the case of "00 is a Wing remake" even more. I'm interested that they're salvaging solar furnaces from old models considering they should have at least three furnaces. I wonder how many suits they're planning on making...
From what it looked like to me, Nena was in the ship Liu-Mei came in. Though I'd still be hard-pressed to root for her in any sort of way.
Apr 1, 2008 6:38 PM
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Astaroth said:
Alpha_522 said:
so this means that setsuna is officially dead? ARGH!

where does it say that Setsuna is officialy dead? I'm positive he's still alive. The only meister confirmed KIA to my knowledge is Lockon, with a decently high probability that Tieria might be dead too (if the talk about that person with Louise not being Tieria is correct).


Well, I assumed he was dead since he gave that letter to Masrina...but then again you can never trust those.

And Exia v2 is on its way yahoo!


Does Saji still have hatred towards Gundam/CB?
Apr 1, 2008 7:37 PM

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Oh man it looks like this episode of Gundam 00 incorporated pretty much most of the other Gundam Universes. I got massive Mobile Suit Gundam, Gundam Wing, G Gundam, and both Seed/Destiny from this episode alone! I already can't wait for Season Two...but I have Geass R2 so its all good xD

Haha it looks like the federation are still using the bootleg solar furnaces...Guess that's one way of separating the abilities of mobile suits with near equal power.
Apr 1, 2008 9:39 PM

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Was alright, I wonder how they can continue with everything all peaceful.


Apr 1, 2008 9:44 PM

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Alpha_522 said:
Astaroth said:
Alpha_522 said:
so this means that setsuna is officially dead? ARGH!

where does it say that Setsuna is officialy dead? I'm positive he's still alive. The only meister confirmed KIA to my knowledge is Lockon, with a decently high probability that Tieria might be dead too (if the talk about that person with Louise not being Tieria is correct).


Well, I assumed he was dead since he gave that letter to Masrina...but then again you can never trust those.

Well he wrote the letter before going to battle so I don't think it's a foolproof indication that he died - more like he wrote the letter and sent it because he thought he'd die. Still not sure whether he actually did or not, although I got the feeling he was only unconscious.
Apr 1, 2008 10:18 PM
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It's pretty damn obvious that he's alive and will pilot 00.

Name one Gundam series where the main character has died.
Apr 1, 2008 10:40 PM
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Requal said:
It's pretty damn obvious that he's alive and will pilot 00.

Name one Gundam series where the main character has died.


prolly not gundam but...yeah
Apr 1, 2008 10:56 PM

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Requal said:
It's pretty damn obvious that he's alive and will pilot 00.

Name one Gundam series where the main character has died.


Chars counter attack.
Apr 2, 2008 1:47 AM
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Exia was recovered/salvaged, but no Setsuna on the time jump. Well there were no Felt and Sumeragi too... So he's probably alive since Graham survived as well. >.<
Apr 2, 2008 2:01 AM
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-Ryuji- said:
Requal said:
It's pretty damn obvious that he's alive and will pilot 00.

Name one Gundam series where the main character has died.


Chars counter attack.


In that case, it's way too early.
Apr 2, 2008 3:47 AM

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Fai said:
Summary:



Season 2 STARTO!!!!
Apr 2, 2008 5:12 AM
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Since when was the golden shit a "GUNDAM!" ?
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azure21 said:
Exia was recovered/salvaged, but no Setsuna on the time jump. Well there were no Felt and Sumeragi too... So he's probably alive since Graham survived as well. >.<


yup yup.
Apr 2, 2008 10:45 AM
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Wait, what was wrong with Nyoro-n besides for the few grammatical typos?
Apr 2, 2008 11:20 AM

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Good question. The translation was fine as far as my pathetic 5 years of anime and 2.5 years of formal Japanese can tell.
Apr 2, 2008 3:15 PM

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im no good with japanese so i wouldnt be able to tell if their subs suck or not but like i guess they already got a bad rep for their previous sub atrocities >.<

but anyways woah this ep left me on the edge but yea for sure setsuna wont die, i mean y would they kill off the main char so soon????but im really wondering wats going to happen in the second season >.>
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Lelangir said:
Wait, what was wrong with Nyoro-n besides for the few grammatical typos?


Some of the translation are made up and not even close to what they were saying. They rush through it.
Apr 2, 2008 5:12 PM

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Agreed. A lot of times large blocks of text are circumstantially made up. I tried not to jump on the "hating Nyoro~n bandwagon after they got slammed in the blog for ep 3, but even as recent as episode 22, there were a number of mis-translated plot points (both minor and major) that changed my understanding of interactions and whatnot. The Shinsen and Conclave-Mendoi subs are in closer agreement, differing only in the diction, usually. So, basically, Nyoro~n lies to you about Gundam.
Apr 2, 2008 5:31 PM
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Yeah conclave mendoi is still taking their time to make everything clear.
Apr 2, 2008 7:31 PM

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I LOL'd at Graham's love confession.

Overall, this was a nice ending for the season. If they didn't leave holes then us fans wouldn't be so amped about watching it in October, nor would there be the masses of speculation that I'm sure the creators LOL at. XD
Apr 2, 2008 8:11 PM
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Alpha_522 said:
Yeah conclave mendoi is still taking their time to make everything clear.


Not obvious to translate Japanese into English, even to a native speaker....Run on all kind of trouble such as lack of expression or words in English to correctly express the original Japanese script. Structural difference force cutting the sentences and changing the diction.... High quality translation requires time....
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The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.
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On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard?
Apr 2, 2008 8:30 PM
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wakka9ca said:
Alpha_522 said:
Yeah conclave mendoi is still taking their time to make everything clear.


Not obvious to translate Japanese into English, even to a native speaker....Run on all kind of trouble such as lack of expression or words in English to correctly express the original Japanese script. Structural difference force cutting the sentences and changing the diction.... High quality translation requires time....


I'm not implying its a bad thing, I'm saying thats a good thing. I support menclave and shinsen. Shinsen for releasing it on a reasonable day with decent translation.

Menclave/Conclave mendoi take their time to make everything close to "perfect" Which is a good thing.
Apr 3, 2008 10:36 PM

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Fai said:
My main wtf was the name united world took up...Anyone who has seen original MGS series will know why it was wtf...


I had the EXACT same reaction. I nearly fell out of my chair. I wonder if it was intentional...
Apr 3, 2008 10:42 PM

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My main wtf was the name united world took up...Anyone who has seen original MGS series will know why it was wtf...


I had the EXACT same reaction. I nearly fell out of my chair. I wonder if it was intentional...

I doubt they just accidently named it the same thing. I'm pretty sure there's an EF in Gundam X too, so it's not the first time the name was reused.
Apr 4, 2008 7:19 PM

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OH GOD REGENE IS HOT.

Lockon's and Tieria's lovechild!
Apr 4, 2008 8:02 PM

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Just ..Wow!, thats about all I have to say about the ending, need season 2!...october feels like forever D:
Apr 4, 2008 8:11 PM

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windy said:
OH GOD REGENE IS HOT.

Lockon's and Tieria's lovechild!

OMG I never looked at it like that, but now that I do it's weird. Lockon's hair style and Tieria's looks...wow.
Apr 4, 2008 8:27 PM

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Allelujah finally got rid of his emo look!

Didnt expect graham to become the masked pilot.
Sadly not many could make it to the 2nd season...
and i knew Libbons, the green haired freak to be the true mastermind!

I just wonder how it'll go from here after earth has attained "peace"
It's just an illusion of it bcoz now if Earth Federation falls, all of the world would too.




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Apr 6, 2008 12:48 AM

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Astaroth said:

I doubt they just accidently named it the same thing. I'm pretty sure there's an EF in Gundam X too, so it's not the first time the name was reused.


Mizushima originally wanted to do sequel for UC timeline :P

But it was impossible, so he went with A.D

thats mainly the main reason why we have all these homages - all gundam shows mizushima has ever watched were from UC timeline.


SO now e have EF and Shoot-Lances from crossbone :P
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Fai said:
Astaroth said:

I doubt they just accidently named it the same thing. I'm pretty sure there's an EF in Gundam X too, so it's not the first time the name was reused.


Mizushima originally wanted to do sequel for UC timeline :P

But it was impossible, so he went with A.D

thats mainly the main reason why we have all these homages - all gundam shows mizushima has ever watched were from UC timeline.


SO now e have EF and Shoot-Lances from crossbone :P


Hehe, I thought the Lances were copying Code Geass. :D But Crossbone's more likely. But wait...

....Are you serious about him not being able to do a UC sequel? 'Cause...you know...I'm not okay with that. What the hell, Bandai?! Unless you plan on making Gundam Unicorn into an anime, this is not cool!


I'm interested that they're salvaging solar furnaces from old models considering they should have at least three furnaces.


When you think about it, not just those three, but the GN Arms had solar furnaces too, I'm thinking.

Anyway....finally my reaction to this ending...HOLY SHIT!!!!!!

That fight between Setsuna and Graham was fucking AWESOME. (Even if Graham kinda ruined it by confessing his hard-on for Setsuna...) I really didn't care much for the fight against Corner (glad he's gone...saw this Libbons thing coming a mile off), but the fight between Exia and the GN Flag was just beautiful.

Also, merged Hallelujah/Alllelujah??? Sweet. I hope he's still alive, as I'd like to see him hope in an improved Wing Zer...I mean Kyrios...again. :D

All the homages to the UC timeline were just beautiful. Seriously I went into spasms when they showed the 0 Gundam and it was basically the RX-78. (I don't even like the RX-78, but that was cool as hell anyway.)

I'm curious to see where everyone stands four years into the future. Who are the Innovators and what do they want? Will the Earth Federation still be a problem (they have been both prior to becoming EF and in other series with an EF) or will they basically be clueless? Did Nena join up with Celestial Being proper?

And, what was the original plan of Aeolia Schenberg? Did the Trinities really factor into it or what?

I'm pretty sure that was Wang Liu Mei at the end...I'm not happy about that, as she seems kinda shady. They keep it up and basically S2 will end like S1, which is something I'm very much not okay with. Still....dammit! Can't wait for S2 to start!

Code Geass S2 better not suck since its taking Gundam's spot. :P
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morbidly_sexy said:
I LOL'd at Graham's love confession.
Me as well, especially with Setsuna's shocked: "AI?!?!" haha.

I thought the letter at the end to Marina was a nice touch. I'm also glad we got the "future" shots - I was praying for that while I watched the entire episode.

I agree with Deathfire - Allelujah and Setsuna can't be dead as their stories have yet to be completed. I'm irritated at the mask (I loved Graham, don't make him a baddie :( ) and pleasantly surprised at Louise (yay, plot twist!). I know Libbons didn't give a shit about Alejandro - obviously - so that didn't surprised me.

I'm definitely looking forward to next season! The great thing is, Spring is so juicy that we probably won't even miss it ^^
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My main wtf was the name united world took up...Anyone who has seen original MGS series will know why it was wtf...


I had the EXACT same reaction. I nearly fell out of my chair. I wonder if it was intentional...


It is intentional . Look at the 0 Gundam , lol RX-78

What I want to say is that Mizushima rocks. He doesn't disappoint me even its his first Gundam show. The FMA touch is certainly there, but I also hate him for some reason. He tend to show no mercy against happy-going characters :(

And Cha- .. Graham confession, it make me Lol'd too hahaha. And anyone notice the "Just as planned" by Alejandro? Kinda funny since the one he is talking to WAS "Just as planned" guy (Hint : Setsuna's VA lol)
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What I want to say is that Mizushima rocks. He doesn't disappoint me even its his first Gundam show. The FMA touch is certainly there, but I also hate him for some reason. He tend to show no mercy against happy-going characters :(


Sounds like he's doing pretty much just like Tomino then. :P
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Very awesome final episode, I'm already excited for the second season. It was my first Gundam show and I enjoyed it a lot. The animation was great, the music was even better and the characters were really something. Loved it how they 'solved' the whole split personality thing with (H)Allelujah. 9/10

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Looks like "00 Gundam" will be the true mobile suit to change the world. But I wonder what Nena's role will be in the next season. Perhaps she'll be the main protagonist?
Apr 13, 2008 4:55 PM

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That was amazing. Loved how they ended it. First season gets a 9 from me.
Apr 13, 2008 7:46 PM
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one heck of an ending, but man, so many characters lost in the last few episodes alone. Can't wait for the enxt season.
Apr 13, 2008 10:34 PM

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That was amazing. Loved how they ended it. First season gets a 9 from me.


Yes, though I'm craving for the next season right now.

It's Code Geass all over again.
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And anyone notice the "Just as planned" by Alejandro? Kinda funny since the one he is talking to WAS "Just as planned" guy (Hint : Setsuna's VA lol)


I did lol'd at Alejandro's "Just as planned," but a never thought of the other part. I love you for making me realize it. Thank you for making my day.
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Awesome ending, giving us just the right amount of preview for the next season, without revealing too much. I do love the fact that Mizushima wasn't afraid to kill off main characters, but still didn't slaughter all of them. Anyway, hopefully Geass R2 and Macross F, among other things, can hold me over until October.
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Omg that was epic. Now there's so many questions I want to be revealed in the second season that were previewed at this ending. Can't wait for season 2! ^_^




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