| "bleh bleh bleh impossibru animation" Laughs in most of current blockbuster shonen with way better animation. OPM is unluck, the animation is shitty, score is deserved. Simple like that. |
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Reply to ManoCustaff
@DrkSeid69 That's literally what I didn't say. People should set realistic expectations, considering all that's written in my post. Also, bad direction ≠ bad storytelling. It can be either the manga to blame and/or the scriptwriter. Also, the direction wasn't BAD, it was mid. Anyway, it's a buildup episode, the team had to set their priorities to the action scenes.
| @ManoCustaff This is funny, bad direction equals bad storytelling. The director can throw a happy or motivational soundtrack over a depressing scene, and you still call it good? Compared to every anime that’s aired from the 2020s until now, this one is so far absolute garbage, almost on par with Blue Lock. You even gave credit to J.C. Staff for being greedy, torturing their animator, and pumping out ten anime per year, which is one of the main reasons anime quality has declined in recent years. Stop normalizing this shit. Also, J.C. Staff is partly to blame here. Even after knowing they were taking on too many projects and messing up with OPM’s IP, they still decided to take it again and promised something like, "It’ll be good, trust me, bro." |
DrkSeid69Oct 13, 10:39 PM
Piromysl said: People will be complaining about the animation even if it is objectively good. In this case they just have much more validity.  i still remember that übel blatt post in which someone defended the awful animation, rearranging of events making the story much worse and the censorship and called people who called him out " hypocrites " because their favorite shows also contain censorship, DESPITE the fact that the issue with his post isn't that he liked übel blatt despite the bad anime adaptation, is that he was DEFENDING the shortcomings of the anime so yes, people will complain about and defend anything lol i myself love arifureta and Fairy tail, both series have bad animation and ( in arifureta's case ) cut too much content, however i never defended these flaws, i just love the series themselves with the flaws unfortunately is something i have to accept |
EyeLowView said: Why did JC accept to work on S3 anyway, if they know they would only have several months to work and pressuring the staff to work in such unhealthy condition? The same reason why they animated OPM S2, Toaru Majutsu no Index III and DAL III despite knowing full well that it would be bad due to tight schedule lol. |
Reply to Rob7
"bleh bleh bleh impossibru animation"
Laughs in most of current blockbuster shonen with way better animation.
OPM is unluck, the animation is shitty, score is deserved.
Simple like that.
Laughs in most of current blockbuster shonen with way better animation.
OPM is unluck, the animation is shitty, score is deserved.
Simple like that.
| @Rob7 Bro, One Punch Man is Seinen anime lmao |
  What Does Pot of Greed do?  |
| Y'all were very spoiled with season 1 it was lightening in a bottle by a very talented director with the help of many freelancers, now things are just correcting themselves to be what they always meant to be. |
Reply to DrkSeid69
@ManoCustaff This is funny, bad direction equals bad storytelling. The director can throw a happy or motivational soundtrack over a depressing scene, and you still call it good?
Compared to every anime that’s aired from the 2020s until now, this one is so far absolute garbage, almost on par with Blue Lock. You even gave credit to J.C. Staff for being greedy, torturing their animator, and pumping out ten anime per year, which is one of the main reasons anime quality has declined in recent years. Stop normalizing this shit.
Also, J.C. Staff is partly to blame here. Even after knowing they were taking on too many projects and messing up with OPM’s IP, they still decided to take it again and promised something like, "It’ll be good, trust me, bro."
Compared to every anime that’s aired from the 2020s until now, this one is so far absolute garbage, almost on par with Blue Lock. You even gave credit to J.C. Staff for being greedy, torturing their animator, and pumping out ten anime per year, which is one of the main reasons anime quality has declined in recent years. Stop normalizing this shit.
Also, J.C. Staff is partly to blame here. Even after knowing they were taking on too many projects and messing up with OPM’s IP, they still decided to take it again and promised something like, "It’ll be good, trust me, bro."
| @DrkSeid69 They're not greedy, they do what they do to survive. In theory, they could turn down an offer, but that's not how power works, especially in Japan. If all studios are underpaid, then it makes no sense the greedy argument. And it's not me who's saying this, Chansard did. So yeah, the studio is in between a hard place and a rock: if they turn down OPM, they'd suffer consequences from the committee. https://x.com/OPMHypeGuy/status/1978047760923550132?t=tBOoKgtZBiXFUlMPV-yKhg&s=19 |
Reply to thegodmayro
ManoCustaff said:
Let's address the elephant in the room: animation. Not only season 1 set the bar way too high, it was mostly made by freelancers, top tier folks, so something like that will NEVER. EVER. HAPPEN. AGAIN. Accept it. We've watched season 2. We know what to expect from season 3 animation wise. So why bother complaining like they could do any better?
J.C Staff rarely works with freelancers like Madhouse or Mappa do. They also pump out, in average, 10 anime in a YEAR. Let's be honest, what other studio can manage to do that other than Toei and keep a consistent overall (mid) quality? If anything, season 3 got the BEST in house director of photography, so it looks way better than season 2.
"But it looks static. One Powerpoint Man" so did season 2. And season 2 got excellent action scenes done by talented in house staff. The biggest issue was the horrible coloring choices and post production fx. They work overloaded AF. And yet, Nagai managed to finish the job before airing, in a studio like J.C it's a fucking milestone. Let us remember JJK season 2 literally making episodes 1 day before airing, hiring over 50 freelancers for 2nd ka.
So stop crying over Season 1’s untouchable glory and give J.C. Staff some credit for pulling off Season 3 under their crazy workload. It’s not gonna be Madhouse, but it’s already better than season 2.
If you really want to blame someone, blame Shueisha and Bandai, the main members of the production committee: They're the ones who chose to stay with J.C Staff again.
Let's address the elephant in the room: animation. Not only season 1 set the bar way too high, it was mostly made by freelancers, top tier folks, so something like that will NEVER. EVER. HAPPEN. AGAIN. Accept it. We've watched season 2. We know what to expect from season 3 animation wise. So why bother complaining like they could do any better?
J.C Staff rarely works with freelancers like Madhouse or Mappa do. They also pump out, in average, 10 anime in a YEAR. Let's be honest, what other studio can manage to do that other than Toei and keep a consistent overall (mid) quality? If anything, season 3 got the BEST in house director of photography, so it looks way better than season 2.
"But it looks static. One Powerpoint Man" so did season 2. And season 2 got excellent action scenes done by talented in house staff. The biggest issue was the horrible coloring choices and post production fx. They work overloaded AF. And yet, Nagai managed to finish the job before airing, in a studio like J.C it's a fucking milestone. Let us remember JJK season 2 literally making episodes 1 day before airing, hiring over 50 freelancers for 2nd ka.
So stop crying over Season 1’s untouchable glory and give J.C. Staff some credit for pulling off Season 3 under their crazy workload. It’s not gonna be Madhouse, but it’s already better than season 2.
If you really want to blame someone, blame Shueisha and Bandai, the main members of the production committee: They're the ones who chose to stay with J.C Staff again.
100% they did set the bar high, but that doesn’t mean they couldn’t have soared up to said bar. I understand the funding issues and change of staff, but at that point, just don’t put out an anime for it if you willingly have the choice to decline it knowing that you won’t be able to live up to its predecessor. Ultimately, they just made poor choices with getting the anime out. Season 2 was definitely a step down but idk about season 3 as i haven’t started it yet. I’m sure the animation is not bad by all means, in fact, it could be decent, but I’ll be certain in saying that it’s not the animation that OPM deserved. The plot and pacing also felt a bit off in season 2 despite having many great new characters. Regardless, I’ve heard it’s better to read the manga so I’ll probably just do that instead.
| @thegodmayro Then someone should talk some sense into Shueisha's and Bandai's CEOs, for they clearly don't know or don't care. |
| The expectations are always going to be centered on the manga. People continue to bring up season 1 because season 1 did the manga justice. At least that is what many believe. Had it sucked people would still be bitching without holding up season 1 as the ideal adaptation. Instead they would just be complaining how the succeeding seasons failed to live up to the manga. The same will also always apply to Beserk. And Hokuto no Ken. And whatever else that has good art. |
People mostly forgotten about season 1. But they are still reading the manga, at least I am. It is gorgeous looking thanks to Murata. When manga puts up a series of panels and pages like this then you are expected to do at least a rivaling job to satisfy the fans. It doesn't matter who worked how hard or who is at fault from the higher ups. It is completely normal for fans to talk about and compare it to S1. Because no casual fan will care about behind the scenes. This arc has so much fighting and mostly not by Saitama but other characters. Hope they can carry that responsibility and give us a good show. |
Reply to sanovagobong
People mostly forgotten about season 1. But they are still reading the manga, at least I am. It is gorgeous looking thanks to Murata. When manga puts up a series of panels and pages like this then you are expected to do at least a rivaling job to satisfy the fans. It doesn't matter who worked how hard or who is at fault from the higher ups. It is completely normal for fans to talk about and compare it to S1. Because no casual fan will care about behind the scenes. This arc has so much fighting and mostly not by Saitama but other characters. Hope they can carry that responsibility and give us a good show.
| @sanovagobong It doesn't matter whenever things come out good. Otherwise, those "fans" harass the shit out of the animators and overall staff. Nagai had to lock his Xwitter account before the show aired due to harassment. |
| Threads like these aren't going to stop people from complaining about it. As you said, the first season of One Punch Man set the bar pretty high for fans of the show. But even when you compare the art of the manga to J.C. Staff's animation, the animation pales in comparison to the manga. So, the current animation quality even does a disservice to the source material and manga readers. |
| Even if Shingo Natsume and studio madhouse would be on board with opm s2 there would be still very noticeable dip in quality because of many veterans whom were working on opm s1 were now busy working on other projects and season 2 as a high profile show and the manga they were adapting was very well animated. |
| Greatest shitposter under the heavens. Greatest anime tourist on the planet earth. |
Reply to ManoCustaff
@sanovagobong It doesn't matter whenever things come out good. Otherwise, those "fans" harass the shit out of the animators and overall staff. Nagai had to lock his Xwitter account before the show aired due to harassment.
| @ManoCustaff No, it does matter when things come out good. Otherwise it is a failure. You can not just do a poor job when animating one of the most action packed manga IP in the industry and wish people to look the other way. That is not gonna happen. I also couldn't care less about director's name or his social media account. I am not defending those "fans" but I am allowed to be disappointed as a fan. And I won't look the other way. If something is bad, I will say it is bad. I also read and watch Futari Solo Camp currently. Its animation looks exactly the same with episode 1 of OPM season 3. But it is a slice of life camping anime. It is basically just two people talking about camping with a mountainous background so it doesn't require a top notch animation. But OPM does. Still, I think it is too early to judge the animation. It's only one episode, maybe it will get better. |
sanovagobongOct 14, 3:21 PM
| Wow.... The way you chose to put a ceiling on general quality instead of just adressing J.C. Staffs repeated fuck-ups is the biggest cope I've ever seen. "No, guys....this season isn't bad. The first season was too good! It's Season One's fault." Did you actually just defend season 3 by saying that season 2 was also shit? 😂😂 Gosh. The defence is strong. Yeah, let's glaze these mass producing, greedy, non-collaborating dicks. It's only EVERY Show they ever produce for 10 years straight, am I right? Give them some credit. They should've made S1 just as shitty and we would be fine, I guess ^^ It really is a shame that Madhouse actually gave a shit and made something great, back then. |
Merve2LoveOct 15, 3:48 PM
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Reply to ktg
It's insane how many people are crying about an overall okay first episode. It was dialogue-heavy, so there wasn't much that needed an insane amount of animation.
| @ktg Yeah, personally I have never understood why they make such a fuss about animation. Not everything needs to be JJK, Kimetsu or Fate. Personally, I'm okay with just serviceable animation. I come from the old school when nobody would bat an eye about such a thing, let alone care or even understand. Concepts, story, dialogues, characters. That used to be the main thing, bar none. This generation is full of monkey brain individuals that need to see thing moving, then neuron spark. If it's not an action packed, flashy smooth show, brain doesn't activate. Such a shame. |
Reply to -Ezra-
@ToumaTachibana
Sad u think that because OPM is much more than a parody anime, u should read the manga
Sad u think that because OPM is much more than a parody anime, u should read the manga
| @-Ezra- It doesn't need to be more than just a parody, I don't know about the manga but if they tried to give more "deep" into the series, then it won't work much since 1) the hero concept or groups are boring plot concepts 2) BNHA already did before and better 3) Hiding Saitama just to "develop" side characters or just worldbuilding is just betraying the initial premise of the show which I noticed since S2 started since they are trying to hide Saitama since we know the battle is going to end quickly everytime he shows up. Even in S1 when it was more a parody, some people tried to pass as something more "deep" but it was more overthinking than anything. Honestly, OPM will be better if Saitama wasn't so OP, I mean he can be like Mob from Mob Pyscho 100, he's OP but not at ridiculous levels and his character has a pretty good development over 3 seasons along with most of the cast. Saitama as character feels flat since he's just a gag character. He maybe has some good jokes but he isn't really interesting to see as a main character especially since they are hiding him now for the reasons I mentioned. He's starting to feel out of place now since the series is trying to be more serious now. |
ToumaTachibanaOct 15, 7:49 PM
| BANZAI NIPPON. Nippon is the Land of freedom. Nippon is the Land of Peace. Nippon is the Land of Justice and Prosperity. In Nippon, we trust. We love Nippon, we love Anime. Anime love us, Nippon love us. 日本 |
Reply to Merve2Love
Wow....
The way you chose to put a ceiling on general quality instead of just adressing J.C. Staffs repeated fuck-ups is the biggest cope I've ever seen.
"No, guys....this season isn't bad. The first season was too good! It's Season One's fault."
Did you actually just defend season 3 by saying that season 2 was also shit? 😂😂 Gosh. The defence is strong.
Yeah, let's glaze these mass producing, greedy, non-collaborating dicks. It's only EVERY Show they ever produce for 10 years straight, am I right?
Give them some credit.
They should've made S1 just as shitty and we would be fine, I guess ^^
It really is a shame that Madhouse actually gave a shit and made something great, back then.
The way you chose to put a ceiling on general quality instead of just adressing J.C. Staffs repeated fuck-ups is the biggest cope I've ever seen.
"No, guys....this season isn't bad. The first season was too good! It's Season One's fault."
Did you actually just defend season 3 by saying that season 2 was also shit? 😂😂 Gosh. The defence is strong.
Yeah, let's glaze these mass producing, greedy, non-collaborating dicks. It's only EVERY Show they ever produce for 10 years straight, am I right?
Give them some credit.
They should've made S1 just as shitty and we would be fine, I guess ^^
It really is a shame that Madhouse actually gave a shit and made something great, back then.
| @Merve2Love Read the post again, I refuse to believe you genuinely came to this conclusion. I literally can't make my point clearer and easier to get. |
Reply to shinlightning
Once upon a time a man decided he wants a house. He hired a carpenter to build it and it turned so out great that the man and the people who sees it praise it as they pass.
The man decided he wants another house again. But this time he hired another carpenter. The result was so horrible that it collapsed immediately. Instead of blaming the new carpenter for a poor job the blames and sues the old carpenter for doing his job so well that he made the new carpenter's work.
the man is you by the way.
The man decided he wants another house again. But this time he hired another carpenter. The result was so horrible that it collapsed immediately. Instead of blaming the new carpenter for a poor job the blames and sues the old carpenter for doing his job so well that he made the new carpenter's work.
the man is you by the way.
shinlightning said: yeah. blame the good season. what if you ate at a restaurant and the food was great. then decided to eat there again but suddenly the food sucks now because they changed chef. Would you blame the old chef for making his food so great rather than the new chef? "Analogy is my passion" .... Dude. That's just not how anime production works, Educate yourself and watch this instead of jumping to this weird analogy shinlightning said: Wow. So basically suck it up and ignore the bad animation. Also blame the first season for having great animation I NEVER said that. You should not suck it up nor ignore the bad animation (that happened in only one scene, Garou walking down the corridor), but instead of blaming the wrong people (animators) like it's usually done, blame the fucking committee for: 1) Spending 3 years waiting for J.C Staff again+3 years for them to finally finish the season; 2) Setting a low budget and a tight schedule only a desperate studio would take so they make ends meet; Also, I didn't blame season 1. Just said it would never happen again so people would stop believing Santa Claus. shinlightning said: Once upon a time a man decided he wants a house. He hired a carpenter to build it and it turned so out great that the man and the people who sees it praise it as they pass. The man decided he wants another house again. But this time he hired another carpenter. The result was so horrible that it collapsed immediately. Instead of blaming the new carpenter for a poor job the blames and sues the old carpenter for doing his job so well that he made the new carpenter's work. the man is you by the way. Another "analogy is my passion" comment. Do yourself a favor and watch the same video. Anime ain't no house, carpenter ain't no studio. |
Reply to shinlightning
@ManoCustaff
No it's not the only instance. Every scene is badly animated or lacking animation entirely. Even the mouth animation seems to lack frames.
The title of your post is Season 1 is the worst thing that happened to OPM fanbase. That's the crux of your argument. If Season wasn't so Godlike in animation then people would not complain about 2 (yes I'm already counting this season) below average seasons.
Yes. Thats the idea of analogy. And I think it's a perfectly good analogy for your argument. I dont know if that is your intention but just the post title alone you are implying that season 1 was the worst thing to happen to opm.
But I must apologise for the 2 different analogies I thought you we're 2 different commentator. I'm on a phone
ManoCustaff said:
that happened in only one scene, Garou walking down the corridor)
that happened in only one scene, Garou walking down the corridor)
No it's not the only instance. Every scene is badly animated or lacking animation entirely. Even the mouth animation seems to lack frames.
ManoCustaff said:
Also, I didn't blame season 1. Just said it would never happen again so people would stop believing Santa Claus.
Also, I didn't blame season 1. Just said it would never happen again so people would stop believing Santa Claus.
The title of your post is Season 1 is the worst thing that happened to OPM fanbase. That's the crux of your argument. If Season wasn't so Godlike in animation then people would not complain about 2 (yes I'm already counting this season) below average seasons.
ManoCustaff said:
Anime ain't no house, carpenter ain't no studio.
Anime ain't no house, carpenter ain't no studio.
Yes. Thats the idea of analogy. And I think it's a perfectly good analogy for your argument. I dont know if that is your intention but just the post title alone you are implying that season 1 was the worst thing to happen to opm.
But I must apologise for the 2 different analogies I thought you we're 2 different commentator. I'm on a phone
| @shinlightning Bad animation ≠ Simple/Limited animation. For instance: Garou down the corridor is bad animation. Robotic, stiff, weird movements. The dialogue scenes with few movements, mostly mouth, isn't bad animation. It's bad storyboard because they're following the manga panels 1:1 in 99% of the time. shinlightning said: The title of your post is Season 1 is the worst thing that happened to OPM fanbase. That's the crux of your argument. If Season wasn't so Godlike in animation then people would not complain about 2 (yes I'm already counting this season) below average seasons It's the worst thing because it was a one of a kind season that people still expect to repeat the feat. People would still complain about season 2, but they wouldn't have expectations for something impossible to happen again. About the analogy: that's not how anip works. The production committee set a fixed budget from the get go and the $ is almost always low, add to it a tight production schedule and you have the average anime scenario. J.C Staff, to make it even worse, is always overloaded with lots of anime,, why? So they don't go bankrupt. Had Shueisha and Bandai set a higher value+ given more time, we wouldn't be here arguing about it. But that's not how the anime world is. |
| I'll actually counter what your saying and say the problem isn't season 1, but the time we're in. Season 1 came out 10 years ago nearly to the day and anyone who remembers what the world was like a decade ago knows this was a much different time, politics wasn't everywhere, life was easier(financially) and the anime crowd was far different, generally happier than they are now. What has happened over the last decade has made people FAR more cynical and thus it's effected not only taste in anime, but how much they can tolerate things such as absurdity and animation styles. The main problem i see is people these days go to anime for different things, even fans of anime back then would have had drastically changed tastes compared to then. On the face of it, OPM S3 looks fine to me, but so many people are so cynical now that it's probably hurting people's opinion of it. That said, MAL reviews aren't trustworthy, while sometimes a show 100% deserves it's praise or hate (frieren comes to mind) other times people's own biases will effect their opinions and cause them to rate shows much lower than they deserve. Remember, we have gotten older, there's ALOT more anime fans then there were 10 years ago. |
ManoCustaff said: @Merve2Love Read the post again, I refuse to believe you genuinely came to this conclusion. I literally can't make my point clearer and easier to get. Oh, you want direct quotes? No problem. "Why bother complaining?" -> Cause everything after season 1 was shit, Animation wise, since the studio changed. I adressed that by saying that J.C Staff sucks ass for years. "J.C. Staff rarely works with freelancers and pumps out 10 Anime a year" -> Yes. Correct. I referred to your point there by calling them greedy, non-collaborating and mass producing dicks. "But it looks static - so did season 2" I picked you up on that by laughing about that defence. Cause it's a hilarious thing to say. Clarity was never the problem, Friend. You wanted to talk about Animation and made it look like : A) Season One is to blame (again: Hilarious) and B) Season 2 and 3 are good - which they are not, when we talk about this "elephant in the room" called Animation. |
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Reply to ManoCustaff
@shinlightning Bad animation ≠ Simple/Limited animation. For instance: Garou down the corridor is bad animation. Robotic, stiff, weird movements. The dialogue scenes with few movements, mostly mouth, isn't bad animation. It's bad storyboard because they're following the manga panels 1:1 in 99% of the time.
It's the worst thing because it was a one of a kind season that people still expect to repeat the feat. People would still complain about season 2, but they wouldn't have expectations for something impossible to happen again.
About the analogy: that's not how anip works. The production committee set a fixed budget from the get go and the $ is almost always low, add to it a tight production schedule and you have the average anime scenario. J.C Staff, to make it even worse, is always overloaded with lots of anime,, why? So they don't go bankrupt. Had Shueisha and Bandai set a higher value+ given more time, we wouldn't be here arguing about it. But that's not how the anime world is.
shinlightning said:
The title of your post is Season 1 is the worst thing that happened to OPM fanbase. That's the crux of your argument. If Season wasn't so Godlike in animation then people would not complain about 2 (yes I'm already counting this season) below average seasons
The title of your post is Season 1 is the worst thing that happened to OPM fanbase. That's the crux of your argument. If Season wasn't so Godlike in animation then people would not complain about 2 (yes I'm already counting this season) below average seasons
It's the worst thing because it was a one of a kind season that people still expect to repeat the feat. People would still complain about season 2, but they wouldn't have expectations for something impossible to happen again.
About the analogy: that's not how anip works. The production committee set a fixed budget from the get go and the $ is almost always low, add to it a tight production schedule and you have the average anime scenario. J.C Staff, to make it even worse, is always overloaded with lots of anime,, why? So they don't go bankrupt. Had Shueisha and Bandai set a higher value+ given more time, we wouldn't be here arguing about it. But that's not how the anime world is.
| @ManoCustaff But you guys are at least lucky because they're following the manga panels 1:1 while they did not do the same to a favorite series sequel anime I like 😔 which was weird unless the author told them to edit some things, But I do hope One Punch Man Season 3 quality improves in the next episodes! for you guys |
Reply to itsrj20
I have said it before and will say it again: Madhouse set the bar too high.
| That's why they are the goat.. |
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| Not even gonna read this. Using a previous good season as a excuse is what you do, when you know the other seasons are dogshit. If someone picks it up and makes it not even half as good, the intention behind it is obvious. You people need to stop kidding yourself. A lot of other animation studios can crank out masterpieces on a skincrawling schedule. Again, if they took on too many projects, that's their fault for being greedy, if they didn't, then the production is too blame for a shitty direction. All comes back to greed or at the very best, absolute incompetence. 0 excuses. |
Reply to MoimoiWa
@Halqifibrax No its not, the fk are you smoking
Just because someone gave it the tag on mal doesnt make it seinen
Just because someone gave it the tag on mal doesnt make it seinen
| @MoimoiWa Nobody said anything about tags. One Punch Man is seinen because it's under a seinen publisher, simple as that. |
| I wish Demon Slayer or CSM got this treatment. |
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