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May 25, 12:09 PM

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Personally none of the shows that were nominated blew me out the water, sure most of them I do like but none will be in my favorite anime of all time or of that year.
Please stop, I don’t want to see any more Dekugo😭
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personally dont care if it won the award or not. if an award is based on popularity polls rather than an objective measurement system then it can easily be botted by fanbases. frieren is a lot better for me and that's my opinion
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@Neterosan Ironically Japanese people can't even vote in the Crunchyroll anime awards because Crunchyroll is blocked in Japan. the birthplace of anime cant access to an anime streaming platform, just wild

At least Frieren is getting the recognition it deserves in Japan. it actually won Anime of the Year there and many more awards
@nrrc102, no... they can vote.
On twitter japanese fans posted instructions on how to vote and informed they could vote every day.

Solo Leveling official twitter account promoted and reminded fans about voting every day.

Sony Japan live stream Anime Awards without english translation
https://www.youtube.com/live/wCbr3Cs8X6E
May 25, 2:23 PM
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crunchymid awards has has much value as the game awards
completely nothing
May 25, 4:29 PM

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i don't mind frieren not winning but solo leveling winning just makes no sense.
May 25, 5:39 PM
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its beyond me why ppl care this much
May 25, 9:14 PM

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Folks, if we're gonna "blame" anyone for this, it would be the judges as they have a 70% voting power compared to the public votes. Clearly not enough members of the awards jury were Frieren fans.

Chronon said:
It's just my hypothesis that three things have boosted SL's vote bank:

- Recency bias of S2:
It had the most anticipated Jeju arc and Beru fight. So when voting started (on mid of April) the popularity of SL in general was already skyrocketing.

- S2 being exclusively available on Crunchyroll:
Most of SL fandom was already on CR when the voting began. The highly active accounts during that time could outnumber any other fandom. Currently Frieren has about 240k ratings on CR where SL has almost 800k. On January 5th SL had about 370k ratings.

- People vote for the IP not the season
Just from my personal experience, outside MAL I don't often see people considering different seasons separately. Unless something is catastrophically bad about a season or the said person is a (self-proclaimed) critic, all seasons are taken together while judging an anime.


I would like to add one other possible reason why SL won this year:

- Crunchyroll's apparent bias towards popular battle shounen
Since at least 2020, my personal observation is that the awards has this favoritism towards shows such as Demon Slayer & Jujutsu Kaisen. Even for the 2023 awards when Cyberpunk: Edgerunners won AOTY, Demon Slayer managed to win more awards than Edgerunners. If you ask me, Solo Leveling winning this year is merely reinforcing the trend the awards has adopted for a while now.
May 25, 10:25 PM
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CR rewards mean literally nothing.
Solo Leveling is an easily digestible, generic shounen with good animation, while Frienren requires minimum attention span and media literacy? Guess which is going to win.
I wasn't even voting in this thing, because it's just popularity contest.
@Piromysl Actually its much worse than that. Crunchyroll Anime Awards are 70% weighted towards the judge panel and 30% to the fan vote. All this says is that the judge panel sucks at their job and doesn't actually watch anime.
May 25, 11:49 PM
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GTRaijin said:
Chronon said:
It should have been obvious, by S2's record-breaking performance, that S1 was going to win the AOTY.

But this was only S1 SL in the awards? Why would S2 even matter in this case? Also, why Dungeon Meshi isn't in any of the awards again?

It's just my hypothesis that three things have boosted SL's vote bank:

- Recency bias of S2:
It had the most anticipated Jeju arc and Beru fight. So when voting started (on mid of April) the popularity of SL in general was already skyrocketing.

- S2 being exclusively available on Crunchyroll:
Most of SL fandom was already on CR when the voting began. The highly active accounts during that time could outnumber any other fandom. Currently Frieren has about 240k ratings on CR where SL has almost 800k. On January 5th SL had about 370k ratings.

- People vote for the IP not the season
Just from my personal experience, outside MAL I don't often see people considering different seasons separately. Unless something is catastrophically bad about a season or the said person is a (self-proclaimed) critic, all seasons are taken together while judging an anime.
@Chronon Exactly.

most of them are just new watchers and haven't really watched any good ones yet.
Also Crunchyroll is only a western outlet. It does not have the authority to award any shows based on critics. It just awards the show based on popularity outside of Japan.

Frieren won the Tokyo Anime Award 2025. Soo that already solidify its stand. The Apothecary Diaries did a great follow up as well. But i really wanted Dungeon Meshi to be there as well.
May 26, 12:55 AM
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Just dont take this seriosuly.
jin woo won best character of the year.
People just prefer shows that gives more dopamine i guess... have a good day anyone who reads it.
May 26, 1:05 AM

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@Zarutaku I bet none of us foresaw that. Not even SL fans.


As much as I love Solo Leveling, it comes nowhere near Frieren's storytelling and world building. This is ridiculous.

“𝖨𝖿 𝗅𝗂𝖿𝖾 𝗐𝖾𝗋𝖾 𝗉𝗋𝖾𝖽𝗂𝖼𝗍𝖺𝖻𝗅𝖾, 𝗂𝗍 π—π—ˆπ—Žπ—…π–½ π–Όπ–Ύπ–Ίπ—Œπ–Ύ π—π—ˆ 𝖻𝖾 𝗅𝗂𝖿𝖾 𝖺𝗇𝖽 𝖻𝖾 π—π—‚π—π—π—ˆπ—Žπ— π–Ώπ—…π–Ίπ—π—ˆπ—‹.” – π–€π—…π–Ύπ–Ίπ—‡π—ˆπ—‹ π–±π—ˆπ—ˆπ—Œπ–Ύπ—π–Ύπ—…π—
May 26, 1:07 AM

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GTRaijin said:
Chronon said:
It should have been obvious, by S2's record-breaking performance, that S1 was going to win the AOTY.

But this was only S1 SL in the awards? Why would S2 even matter in this case? Also, why Dungeon Meshi isn't in any of the awards again?

It's just my hypothesis that three things have boosted SL's vote bank:

- Recency bias of S2:
It had the most anticipated Jeju arc and Beru fight. So when voting started (on mid of April) the popularity of SL in general was already skyrocketing.

- S2 being exclusively available on Crunchyroll:
Most of SL fandom was already on CR when the voting began. The highly active accounts during that time could outnumber any other fandom. Currently Frieren has about 240k ratings on CR where SL has almost 800k. On January 5th SL had about 370k ratings.

- People vote for the IP not the season
Just from my personal experience, outside MAL I don't often see people considering different seasons separately. Unless something is catastrophically bad about a season or the said person is a (self-proclaimed) critic, all seasons are taken together while judging an anime.
@Zarutaku Reasonable hypothesis.
“𝖨𝖿 𝗅𝗂𝖿𝖾 𝗐𝖾𝗋𝖾 𝗉𝗋𝖾𝖽𝗂𝖼𝗍𝖺𝖻𝗅𝖾, 𝗂𝗍 π—π—ˆπ—Žπ—…π–½ π–Όπ–Ύπ–Ίπ—Œπ–Ύ π—π—ˆ 𝖻𝖾 𝗅𝗂𝖿𝖾 𝖺𝗇𝖽 𝖻𝖾 π—π—‚π—π—π—ˆπ—Žπ— π–Ώπ—…π–Ίπ—π—ˆπ—‹.” – π–€π—…π–Ύπ–Ίπ—‡π—ˆπ—‹ π–±π—ˆπ—ˆπ—Œπ–Ύπ—π–Ύπ—…π—
May 26, 1:08 AM

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@Neterosan Ironically Japanese people can't even vote in the Crunchyroll anime awards because Crunchyroll is blocked in Japan. the birthplace of anime cant access to an anime streaming platform, just wild

At least Frieren is getting the recognition it deserves in Japan. it actually won Anime of the Year there and many more awards
@nrrc102 Why is it blocked in Japan?
“𝖨𝖿 𝗅𝗂𝖿𝖾 𝗐𝖾𝗋𝖾 𝗉𝗋𝖾𝖽𝗂𝖼𝗍𝖺𝖻𝗅𝖾, 𝗂𝗍 π—π—ˆπ—Žπ—…π–½ π–Όπ–Ύπ–Ίπ—Œπ–Ύ π—π—ˆ 𝖻𝖾 𝗅𝗂𝖿𝖾 𝖺𝗇𝖽 𝖻𝖾 π—π—‚π—π—π—ˆπ—Žπ— π–Ώπ—…π–Ίπ—π—ˆπ—‹.” – π–€π—…π–Ύπ–Ίπ—‡π—ˆπ—‹ π–±π—ˆπ—ˆπ—Œπ–Ύπ—π–Ύπ—…π—
May 26, 1:10 AM

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There was never any chance SL wouldn't win considering the number of likes its episodes get on CR. Would've loved Frieren to get best series but SL is acceptable. It will be same story next year with SL2 vs Frieren 2,same outcome guaranteed πŸ™
@Gavinmercer This is SL2. Besides, I highly doubt we'd be getting SL3 anytime soon.
“𝖨𝖿 𝗅𝗂𝖿𝖾 𝗐𝖾𝗋𝖾 𝗉𝗋𝖾𝖽𝗂𝖼𝗍𝖺𝖻𝗅𝖾, 𝗂𝗍 π—π—ˆπ—Žπ—…π–½ π–Όπ–Ύπ–Ίπ—Œπ–Ύ π—π—ˆ 𝖻𝖾 𝗅𝗂𝖿𝖾 𝖺𝗇𝖽 𝖻𝖾 π—π—‚π—π—π—ˆπ—Žπ— π–Ώπ—…π–Ίπ—π—ˆπ—‹.” – π–€π—…π–Ύπ–Ίπ—‡π—ˆπ—‹ π–±π—ˆπ—ˆπ—Œπ–Ύπ—π–Ύπ—…π—
May 26, 2:03 AM

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No big deal, really. That doesn't diminish the quality of the title but merely shows that it doesn't have an universal appeal. Not everyone likes an introspective anime with characters that are calm and quiet instead of loud and hyperactive.
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@Zarutaku Ignored instead. >︿<
“𝖨𝖿 𝗅𝗂𝖿𝖾 𝗐𝖾𝗋𝖾 𝗉𝗋𝖾𝖽𝗂𝖼𝗍𝖺𝖻𝗅𝖾, 𝗂𝗍 π—π—ˆπ—Žπ—…π–½ π–Όπ–Ύπ–Ίπ—Œπ–Ύ π—π—ˆ 𝖻𝖾 𝗅𝗂𝖿𝖾 𝖺𝗇𝖽 𝖻𝖾 π—π—‚π—π—π—ˆπ—Žπ— π–Ώπ—…π–Ίπ—π—ˆπ—‹.” – π–€π—…π–Ύπ–Ίπ—‡π—ˆπ—‹ π–±π—ˆπ—ˆπ—Œπ–Ύπ—π–Ύπ—…π—
May 26, 3:45 AM
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It won because SL s2 was airing or just finished around the time of voting while Frieren had been finished for close to a year. People are too stupid to realise that s2 want nominated.
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@Zarutaku Reasonable hypothesis.
@aurora_yuuki πŸ‘
*kappa*
May 26, 5:46 AM

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I've said it before and I'll say it again, the CR Anime Awards have no credibility. It's basically the Teen Choice Awards for weebs. Popularity contest.
Take care of yourself

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As we can see, our beloved show just lost in the Crunchyroll Anime Awards. And it's not to Dandadan, it's not to Dungeon Meshi, It's not to The Apothecary Diary. But it just lost to Solo Leveling ☠️☠️

Bro Jinwoo won the best main character lmao

This is again, similar to Ballon d'Or, a popularity check. Solo Leveling has the biggest overseas audience because of an amazing dub along with their overseas PR
@SATAN19 So Frieren "balón de playa"? (beach ball)
May 26, 6:38 AM

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Neither Frieren nor SL deserve the anime of the year.
May 26, 6:50 AM

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garbage leveling actually won🀯Another victory for the kids in india!!!
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garbage leveling actually won🀯Another victory for the kids in india!!!
@CGD Beat out degenrate losers in the west. That is 100% a victory
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@nrrc102, no... they can vote.
On twitter japanese fans posted instructions on how to vote and informed they could vote every day.

Solo Leveling official twitter account promoted and reminded fans about voting every day.

Sony Japan live stream Anime Awards without english translation
https://www.youtube.com/live/wCbr3Cs8X6E

what are you talking about? I have a friend currently in Japan and they told me Crunchyroll isn't available. Also quick google search confirms it's blocked
May 27, 1:42 AM

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@nrrc102, no... they can vote.
On twitter japanese fans posted instructions on how to vote and informed they could vote every day.

Solo Leveling official twitter account promoted and reminded fans about voting every day.

Sony Japan live stream Anime Awards without english translation
https://www.youtube.com/live/wCbr3Cs8X6E

what are you talking about? I have a friend currently in Japan and they told me Crunchyroll isn't available. Also quick google search confirms it's blocked
@nrrc102, they may not be able to watch anime on CR, but they can vote.

Here is a couple random instructions for them on how to vote:
https://twitter.com/txt_voteJP/status/1911997847475769612
https://twitter.com/txt_voteJP/status/1908396224019070980
https://twitter.com/schloss_romani/status/1908480287644016710
https://twitter.com/schloss_romani/status/1909218474691629098

And here is example where you can see their comments as they confirmed that they voted:
https://twitter.com/yorukura_anime/status/1908021964905521556

btw I still suprised Yorukuro lost when even fans from Japan voted for it 😭
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Crunchyroll Awards is basically just the Normie Awards lol
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Though i was not a fan of solo leveling but i thought that it will get this year best anime award. When i seen a episode that broke the server for few minutes. That time i predicted that this will be upcoming best anime award winner.
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Folks, if we're gonna "blame" anyone for this, it would be the judges as they have a 70% voting power compared to the public votes. Clearly not enough members of the awards jury were Frieren fans.

Chronon said:
It's just my hypothesis that three things have boosted SL's vote bank:

- Recency bias of S2:
It had the most anticipated Jeju arc and Beru fight. So when voting started (on mid of April) the popularity of SL in general was already skyrocketing.

- S2 being exclusively available on Crunchyroll:
Most of SL fandom was already on CR when the voting began. The highly active accounts during that time could outnumber any other fandom. Currently Frieren has about 240k ratings on CR where SL has almost 800k. On January 5th SL had about 370k ratings.

- People vote for the IP not the season
Just from my personal experience, outside MAL I don't often see people considering different seasons separately. Unless something is catastrophically bad about a season or the said person is a (self-proclaimed) critic, all seasons are taken together while judging an anime.


I would like to add one other possible reason why SL won this year:

- Crunchyroll's apparent bias towards popular battle shounen
Since at least 2020, my personal observation is that the awards has this favoritism towards shows such as Demon Slayer & Jujutsu Kaisen. Even for the 2023 awards when Cyberpunk: Edgerunners won AOTY, Demon Slayer managed to win more awards than Edgerunners. If you ask me, Solo Leveling winning this year is merely reinforcing the trend the awards has adopted for a while now.
This

Violet Evergarden lost to Devilman Crybaby (not that DMCB wasn't a popular critical darling in its own right but... I mean, which one would the people who voted KnY, JJK, and SL like more) and Vinland Saga lost to both Demon Slayer and Jujutsu Kaisen

If you're expecting the ~prestige~ anime to beat the hype and aura action series, that hasn't been true since, like, the second ceremony over 5 years ago now.
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SL winning is better than Frieren winning.

Me if I had no brain cells
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Ripperdoc said:
SL winning is better than Frieren winning.

Me if I had no brain cells

You wanna say anything else?
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Its like chess where Magnus isn't the World Champion but still the top 1.

I'm level on MAL-Badges. View my badges.
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Here just to comment one thing.
Why the hell is Solo Levelling winning.
Don't get me wrong. I finished the novel, manga, years ago, and I liked Solo Levelling but come on. I seen clips of Frieren and I still agree Frieren deserved more than Solo Levelling.
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Ripperdoc said:
Seven_147 said:

Me if I had no brain cells

You wanna say anything else?

Yeah you're objectively wrong SL is slop
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Seven_147 said:
Ripperdoc said:

You wanna say anything else?

Yeah you're objectively wrong SL is slop

Even time, once thought to be an absolute measure, is relative to the observer.

So please dont come with 'objectively' bullshit, you genius.

"Frieren is ass, thats objectively a fact." Did I do it right?
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Ripperdoc said:
Seven_147 said:

Me if I had no brain cells

You wanna say anything else?

Yeah you're objectively wrong SL is slop
@Seven_147 You do realize Frieren lost to that "slop", right?
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CR rewards mean literally nothing.
Solo Leveling is an easily digestible, generic shounen with good animation, while Frienren requires minimum attention span and media literacy? Guess which is going to win.
I wasn't even voting in this thing, because it's just popularity contest.
@Piromysl lmfao
if Freiren had won that it wouldn't really have "meant nothing" or been "meaningless" or a "popularity contest" right?
It's so funny to see your "mature" fandom get so butthurt lmfao. Y'all are just coping like anything. The Solo Leveling hate is so damn forced it's not even that bad.
And now that you probably don't have anything to say, I'll save you the time of going to my profile: Solo Leveling is in my favourites and I have rated the manhwa a 10 and both seasons 9 and 8 respectively. Just use that against me as another method of cope.
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Anime awards❌
Popularity awards βœ”οΈ
@GHOST_OF_UCHIHA_ this is why i hate indian anime fans
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@Piromysl lmfao
if Freiren had won that it wouldn't really have "meant nothing" or been "meaningless" or a "popularity contest" right?
It's so funny to see your "mature" fandom get so butthurt lmfao. Y'all are just coping like anything. The Solo Leveling hate is so damn forced it's not even that bad.
And now that you probably don't have anything to say, I'll save you the time of going to my profile: Solo Leveling is in my favourites and I have rated the manhwa a 10 and both seasons 9 and 8 respectively. Just use that against me as another method of cope.
@AMBITZZ Dunno why you even got so butthurt as if someone personally called you out. lmao
And if you haven't noticed, people do not hate on SL, but on Crunchyroll popularity awards, in which Frieren wouldn't win because of what kind of people use Crunchyroll.
And dunno why you thought that anyone even needs to check your profile out of desperation to deduce, that you are a SL fanboy.
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@AMBITZZ Dunno why you even got so butthurt as if someone personally called you out. lmao
And if you haven't noticed, people do not hate on SL, but on Crunchyroll popularity awards, in which Frieren wouldn't win because of what kind of people use Crunchyroll.
And dunno why you thought that anyone even needs to check your profile out of desperation to deduce, that you are a SL fanboy.
@Piromysl i am not even butthurt. clearly you said that cuz i said the same to you lol. didnt even try to come up with an insult.

also that's exactly what i am saying. if frieren HAD won AOTY, people wouldn't be hating on the awards.

a lot of people are like that on MAL.
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@Piromysl i am not even butthurt. clearly you said that cuz i said the same to you lol. didnt even try to come up with an insult.

also that's exactly what i am saying. if frieren HAD won AOTY, people wouldn't be hating on the awards.

a lot of people are like that on MAL.

There is no need to be upset.
And if Frieren would have won, people wouldn't hate on those awards, because Frieren deserved to win. That's literally the entire point. Duh...
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Looking stuff up about the Crunchyroll Anime Awards AOTY noms on MAL sent me in a bit of a spiral but tl;dr Crunchyroll Anime Awards has been mainstream slop for years

I'd argue 2022 was when it got really bad though

The only sub-500k show they've nominated since then was Delicious in Dungeon where they were willing to nominate shows with sub-250k members like Joker Game (216K, SEVENTEENTH in popularity in its season), Showa Genroku Rakugo Shinju S2 (197K, 14th in its season), and Appare-Ranman (138K, also seventeenth in its season and the least popular AOTY nom ever).

Bocchi the Rock is also the only nom since 2022 not to be in the top 5 in popularity for its season (and Lycoris Recoil is the only other one not to be first or second)

I agree that the Crunchyroll Anime Awards are basically pointless now but not because Frieren lost. Frieren is part of the establishment and Frieren fans are just as mainstream as Solo Leveling fans. Hell, Frieren is ABOVE Solo Leveling (and every other 2024 AOTY nom) in members.
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@AMBITZZ Dunno why you even got so butthurt as if someone personally called you out. lmao
And if you haven't noticed, people do not hate on SL, but on Crunchyroll popularity awards, in which Frieren wouldn't win because of what kind of people use Crunchyroll.
And dunno why you thought that anyone even needs to check your profile out of desperation to deduce, that you are a SL fanboy.
@Piromysl People DO hate on Solo Leveling A LOT. I don't even think it's arguable atp.
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