Which part do you prefer?
| I trust that Fujimoto has a destination in mind that he wants to take this story towards, but I've finally accepted that the road there is getting a bit too long and windy for me. Probably held out longer than most people in giving this part some grace. I still think part two can get even better, but it's certainly not as tight as part one was and I can't deny that this recent chapter had me feeling fatigue. |
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| Part 1 is superior to part 2 but that isn't saying much. This manga lives off degeneracy and thrives on shock value. Part 2 leans way more into incel baiting. Fujimoto knows who his core audience is and panders to them. It used to be Power Fantasies like Goku in Dragon Ball people could live out their fantasies through characters who were strong and virtuous. Now it's degenerate characters like Denji who will do anything for sex for this new generation and they are eating it up. Can't blame the author for doing what works for the fans he wants to please; it just alienates the others who wanted something more. |
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| I prefer part 2. Part 1 is at most average until the Reze arc, and then the ending is kinda dumb Part 2 has been great since the beginning and Asa is the best character of the franchise. I do wish that there were less horny chapters tho |
Reply to Confused_100
Part 1 just has everything better to it. Storytelling, characters, developments, simply everything was better. Part 2 has inferior characters, except Asa but even she got sidelined hard. Developments are mostly “Hey remember Denji still is a simp who doesn’t learn and you have to be sad for him”… The writing for part 2 is simply 7/10, compared to 9/10 is something I can’t ignore. And the amount of issues it is taking, took part 1 half of it to be great.
| I don't even need to say anything beyond @Confused_100's comment, since they described my thoughts well. |
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Reply to Ginger_Nut07
Part 2 has higher highs and lower lows than part 1
| @Ginger_Nut07 Those lows are quite low and rather pathetic to boot. |
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Reply to keinboesewicht
bucciest said:
I trust that Fujimoto has a destination in mind that he wants to take this story towards, but I've finally accepted that the road there is getting a bit too long and windy for me. Probably held out longer than most people in giving this part some grace. I still think part two can get even better, but it's certainly not as tight as part one was and I can't deny that this recent chapter had me feeling fatigue.
I trust that Fujimoto has a destination in mind that he wants to take this story towards, but I've finally accepted that the road there is getting a bit too long and windy for me. Probably held out longer than most people in giving this part some grace. I still think part two can get even better, but it's certainly not as tight as part one was and I can't deny that this recent chapter had me feeling fatigue.
did you read part 1 weekly?
| @keinboesewicht No, I didn't, but if the implication is that the weekly releases is the issue here then that's not it. CSM is probably the only series where I don't find waiting for chapters to be a hindrance to the story. I made it almost 100 chapters into this part without that being the problem. It's the writing that's wearing me out. |
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Reply to logic340
Part 1 is superior to part 2 but that isn't saying much. This manga lives off degeneracy and thrives on shock value. Part 2 leans way more into incel baiting. Fujimoto knows who his core audience is and panders to them. It used to be Power Fantasies like Goku in Dragon Ball people could live out their fantasies through characters who were strong and virtuous. Now it's degenerate characters like Denji who will do anything for sex for this new generation and they are eating it up. Can't blame the author for doing what works for the fans he wants to please; it just alienates the others who wanted something more.
| @logic340 I could not agree less with this comment, but it's clear to me that we're taking away different things from this series. |
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Reply to Alexaroo
I've literally had a note in my review score that part one is like a 9 and this part is a 7 or 8 in case of future readings 🤷♀️
| @Alexaroo My score has been an 8 this entire time, but I had to change it to a 7 today with the caveat that it could back up depending on how part two wraps up. |
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Reply to bucciest
@logic340 I could not agree less with this comment, but it's clear to me that we're taking away different things from this series.
| @bucciest Follow up to this since the comment got deleted and I wrote out an entire response that I'm not going to waste: That's most likely the case that this is hate reading, but I could also see someone not hate reading CSM and thinking similar thoughts since stuff can really fly over people's heads (I've definitely experienced that with this series). For example: Denji being tied into incel rhetoric or being labeled as one. That's a sign to me that the person does not understand his character and/or does not understand what an incel is. Of course with the internet being the way it is, trolling is always a possibility, but I doubt that none of it isn't coming from a genuine place. |
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| part 2 doesn't even have a conclusion yet so it doesn't feel right picking one until we get that. part 1 has better art and pacing though, otherwise on the same level. |
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Reply to babajeeds
I just wish I knew what it was like reading part one week by week to properly compare them. Both parts are kinda following the same formula, but I feel like much of the csm charm just isn't there in part 2. Probably because in part 2 we don't really have anyone who can compare to Aki and Power
babajeeds said: Probably because in part 2 we don't really have anyone who can compare to Aki and Power Yeah, there's no replacing Aki and Power. Nayuta managed to fill that hole in my heart, but now she's apparently dead. 💀 |
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| I like the story more in part 2 and Asa is the best character in the series imo. But I have to admit that the art of part 1 is far better thanks to the many assistants who were helping back then. |
| I love Part 2 more. Really looking forward to how it ends, lol. |
Reply to bucciest
@bucciest Follow up to this since the comment got deleted and I wrote out an entire response that I'm not going to waste: That's most likely the case that this is hate reading, but I could also see someone not hate reading CSM and thinking similar thoughts since stuff can really fly over people's heads (I've definitely experienced that with this series). For example: Denji being tied into incel rhetoric or being labeled as one. That's a sign to me that the person does not understand his character and/or does not understand what an incel is. Of course with the internet being the way it is, trolling is always a possibility, but I doubt that none of it isn't coming from a genuine place.
| @bucciest I enjoyed the beginning of part 2 but it has really gone off the rails. I am not calling Denji an incel as we are seeing him get hand jobs and possibly even make it to home base. That was not the point of my comments, so it clearly went over your head. The power fantasy example should pretty let you know what I was getting at but maybe that went over your head as well. People are wanting to live out their fantasies through Denji. Which is sad and scary at the same time. The last few chapters have been incel baiting and I am not the only person who feels this way as I talk about anime/manga across many forums and social media outlets. I've also read a few other stories from this same author and imho this is not their best work. IMO a manga with similar appeal but better characters, development, and plot would be Gantz. Maybe you'd be willing to give it a shot? |
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| The poll is utterly and completely unambiguous in it's results. Less than one in ten prefer the rambling, meandering part two to the first part. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| I like both but I'm coming to like Part two more because of its focus on dark humor. But there's no denying that the characters were far better in part one. I'm not sure what's more tragic, losing power or nayuta. |
Reply to Farabeuf
The poll is utterly and completely unambiguous in it's results. Less than one in ten prefer the rambling, meandering part two to the first part.
| @Farabeuf I gave more options for the answers to provide the chance for more variety in responses, but it's true when you take the original question into consideration, it's clear that only about 14% of people prefer the second part. |
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