| Some stories are OK with 1 cour: Mob Psycho 100, Attack on Titan, One Punch Man. But some need to be ~24 episode long in order to tell a satisfying story. Can you imagine if Jujutsu Kaisen season 2 was about Kyoto Goodwill Event and Death Painting arcs? Or if one of endless My Hero Academia seasons was only about 1B class training? It would've been insane! Dandadan is one of the shows that would've had a fitting ending with 2 cours. Of course, there can be split cours, but it still feels wrong, because there is a gap between releases. Jobless Reincarnation season 1 was only 3 episodes into an adventure and then says: "That's it, guys, wait for continuation in 3 months!". I swear to God, if Omniscient Reader's Viewpoint is gonna be 1 cour, I'm gonna take over the country I live in and declare a war on Japan! You can say that splitting cours makes it easier for animators, but this is a workaround. This is not a real solution to crunches. There are 12-episode animes that had a bad production process (Zom 100) and there is My Hero Academia that pops off a 2-cour season every 18 months. I am not an expert in how it's done behind the scenes, but something tells me that there is not much of a direct correlation between number of episodes and animators' overworking. Anime needs to have good planning and management. |
| Imagine normies saying: "Peaky Blinders is mid and overhyped. Just another typical crime drama show. Breaking Bad is much better lol.". |
Ki11grave said: I swear to God, if Omniscient Reader's Viewpoint is gonna be 1 cour, I'm gonna take over the country I live in and declare a war on Japan! I hope Omniscient Reader's Viewpoint gets a 1 cour season. I wanna see you take over your country and declare war on Japan. It sounds fun |
V1P3R0PYesterday, 8:59 AM
| 1 cour anime are a by product of the industry not having enough animators to meet the demand of new anime per year, this will only get worse as anime becomes more popular globally. Just be happy you don’t even have to wait a year for a season 2 |
| I prefer 1 cour for the 1st season because that makes a franchise more accessible. |
This dance is the pinnacle of human achievement. |
| Between the seasonals last year, starting around the summer season, to now, I did watch a number of new seasonals which had 20 - 28 episodes (Dark Gathering, Helck, Dog Signal, The Apothecary Diaries, Shangri-La Frontier, Sousou no Frieren, Dungeon Meshi, T.P. BON, The Fable, and Karasu wa Aruji wo Erabanai), and it was and is absolutely such a welcome breath of fresh air. I don't care what anyone says - The push for the shortened one cour runs in the modern era has been a mistake and a lot of series have suffered as a direct result of it. On average, for most series, it definitely allows a lot more breathing space to get you much more properly invested and sucked into the world and characters when you have double-cour on average 24 - 26 episode runs. Yes, 11 - 13 episode series can work great for Slice of Life/iyashikei SoL, and when there is a pre-written story specifically tailored and designed to fit that exact length and format, especially when it's masterclass-level writing and auteur-level directing which utilizes every single episode, scene, and frame well. I don't need to be told that. Some of my favorite series of all time and four of my only seven 10/10s given to series are for 11 - 13 episode series. But the simple fact is that most series simply aren't up to that level so they need a lot more time and space to achieve the same level of depth, quality, and emotional effect. |
| There's too much demand and not enough work force, hence the 12 episode seasons. I don't mind it all that much tbh, but it is sth that kills the hype for many new anime. I think series like Frieren for example benefited so much from being 2 consecutive cours, and then you have sth like Chainsaw Man whose hype died before it even began. I really hope Dandadan isn't affected by this, cuz Science Saru is definitely not gonna do 2 consecutive cours, they simply lack the right amount of staff for that, which is the case for most anime these days as I mentioned before. |
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| I kinda agree. It is annoying, especially if the source material has been completed for a while and they no longer have to worry about catching up too quickly. I'm used to the wait for new seasons at this point, but I'm also fairly impatient for someone who doesn't watch things as they air that often. However...Another part of me wants to point out that at least they aren't shorter than that for the most part. Try waiting over a year for a freakin 8 episode season.... |
| I understand what you mean! Sometimes, shorter anime series can feel rushed or leave us wanting more. However, there are some gems among the 12-episode ones that manage to make a lasting impact like Death Parade, tatami galaxy, aohana |
| Imagine if Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood had 12 episodes per season, released annually or every two years. Now that's edging. |
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| I'm glad it's still mostly 12 at the lowest in the first place Could be worse |
| I'm sick and tired of 12-13 episodes long anime in general. Is it so hard for people to watch something longer than 13 episodes nowadays? |
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| 25-50 episodes is the ideal length for anime. |
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| Most of the times, they do these 12 episode seasons is because the anime adaptation is basically supposed to be an advertisement for the source material. They have no intention of creating a standalone product that sells on its own. |
| Yeah, there should be more longer anime, especially original ones. |
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Reply to nachomaxo1
I'm glad it's still mostly 12 at the lowest in the first place
Could be worse
Could be worse
Huh, never thought of that. What if Japanese broadcasters (and the viewers) start thinking monthly, so 4-week cours become the standard... A studio would produce 4 episodes of a series every 9 months or so, and then churn through 4 times the number of shows to keep the lights on and keep the animators occupied. We'll be getting "more anime" than ever before! This sounds nightmarish for both the viewers and the creators, but I'm sure lots of people in the industry have seriously considered this... |
| As you said, it depends, some stories are better keept at 12 episodes or they will spread too thin (and some even strugle with that). But yeah, there are also many cases of animes just pushing the plot too fast so they can fit the script into 12 parts. |
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| Ideally all episodes of a show would be dropped at once, but let's just say that the 12 episode release is not for the sake of improving the viewing experience. |
This dance is the pinnacle of human achievement. |
| Yeah I agree somewhat. I think some stories are meant to be short and sweet, but there is a lot of stories that are done dirty with only 12. Especially anime like Chainsaw Man which has a complicated and expansive story. 12 felt way too short and not enough to judge the series. |
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| I think original anime are the ones that suffer the most from this because they're obviously are not guaranteed to get multiple seasons & therefore they are forced to wrap up their stories in a short amount of time. YoruKura could have been one of the best anime last season had it not been for how rushed the last 4 episodes were, but even before that the fact the it wrapped up it's previous storylines in a single episode shows how strapped for time the writers were. The most recent anime to suffer from this is the new Code Geass anime, this series has pacing issues that were never a problem in the og series. Out of all the 12 episode og anime I've seen, I think Madoka was the only one that didn't have pacing issues. |
animegamer245Yesterday, 11:07 AM
| People seem to be forgetting that animation studios have relatively little control over the length of seasons. They would love to adapt as much as they can. That’s job security. It’s production committees and license owners that set the terms. They want more revenue and fewer costs. 12 episode cours allow for the milking of licenses, with the added flexibility of being able to pace adaptations behind the source material and alter production conditions when desired (i.e change studios). Contracting an entire anime adaptation all at once is counterproductive to those means. As a result, studios generally have to concede favorable terms with negotiations in order to maintain business. Which is why most seasons aren’t long and overwork is common. |
| Personally, I see no problem with a 12 episode anime series, as long as the show is of good quality. Of course, if a show is of high-quality, you would wish there was more than just 12 episodes of it. But viewers don't really determine which shows get released. The corporations marketing anime content entirely determine what shows get released (or not). |
| I enjoy longer seasons too 12 episodes can feel really lacking sometimes but there are still a lot of anime I struggle to go through 12 episodes all the way |
Reply to Cammell
I enjoy longer seasons too
12 episodes can feel really lacking sometimes but there are still a lot of anime I struggle to go through 12 episodes all the way
12 episodes can feel really lacking sometimes but there are still a lot of anime I struggle to go through 12 episodes all the way
| Same here, compare to longer episodes 12/13 episodes lack it's appeal, especially if they come in butchered forms like god of hishschool or tower of god..... |
| Sure, 2+ cour anime shows are fine, but only if the staff have had enough time to work on them and their work environment is healthy. It's been mentioned already, but the industry is really strained with a lack of workers and other reasons atm. Right now, I don't mind 12 episode seasons if it means that it takes time to produce the next season. But with the time for release between seasons, it can allow the franchise to earn more money as the lifespan of the show can last much longer. LotGH DNT already has S5 in production and is one of I.G's biggest moneymakers in the last couple of years, and if they continue, they'll have 10 seasons in total. It's one of the few shows I want the studio to take its time as the OVA is the greatest anime of all time and I want the remake to live up to that hype. Releasing each season as a movie trilogy means people buy multiple theater tickets, and it'll continue into the 2030's. I guess it's a satisfying story if an anime is fully adapted and written properly? I don't see how cour length plays a part in this. If you forget certain plot elements, either read the source material or rewatch the anime or watch a summary video of the anime to freshen up your memory. |
So I've been banned from MAL-Badges, after spending nearly two years of my time and dedication to helping out, being the club's spokesperson, and planning for the revamp, it all goes down the fucking drain. What a joke the club has become. I advise everyone to stop using the feature and stop showing their support for the site and the club. We were promised that we will see changes come to the site, and nothing's been done for the past year. I doubt the site will be touched for the foreseeable future. If you're angry and annoyed about the lack of development, then good, you should be. |
| Been telling people this whole time, the longer a show is, the more story you get to enjoy. Sadly we rarely get those 39 or 50 episodes series anymore. |
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| That's why twenty six episode should be regular like the 2000s era some anime fit from that format while others are thirteen for Slice of life. |
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| Its just the way that the industry works nowadays. It is a miracle that we are still getting some high production quality animes that have 20+ episodes per season like JJK or Frieren. |
| "Those words are meant for those that dare defy god's final warning... An epigraph of their stubbornness" - Maho Hiyajo (Steins;Gate 0)  |
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