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Jul 17, 2024 6:38 AM
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Do you think Sousou no Frieren deserves the number 1 spot over FMAB or no?
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Jul 17, 2024 6:39 AM
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No, but I don't really care too much about scores and top lists tbh. Number one spot doesn't matter to me.

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No, but I mean, if it were up to me, I wouldn't give anything in the Top 800 at least the #1 spot.
Jul 17, 2024 6:47 AM
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I have more importan things to worry about than the MAL #1 spot.
Jul 17, 2024 6:48 AM
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Yes, because Madhouse is the best studio and one of their works deserves to be #1
Jul 17, 2024 6:49 AM
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I don't think any of the anime in the ranked top 400 deserve the number 1 spot, but who cares anyway? It's just a popularity contest at the end of the day.
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Jul 17, 2024 6:51 AM
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No I think Non Non Biyori deserves the number 1 spot
Jul 17, 2024 6:53 AM
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Well it's the only good anime from the top 10 so I'm fine with this.
Jul 17, 2024 6:54 AM
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no, I don't think that something that isn't even complete or has had a chance to develop a legacy deserves to be #1

but arbitrary rankings are silly anyway
Jul 17, 2024 6:56 AM

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to be honest, the rankings in "mal" kinda sucks royal ass, ngl
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Jul 17, 2024 6:56 AM

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Maybe, probably, not really, honestly.
Jul 17, 2024 6:57 AM
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no i don't think so i don't like freiren
Jul 17, 2024 6:58 AM

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If folks voted that way, then sure, it deserves such spot. I didn't like that show that much, but it was a fun ride to watch all those episodes.
Jul 17, 2024 7:04 AM

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absolutely, especially over FMAB.
Jul 17, 2024 7:07 AM

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I know and understand that FMAB is a legendary anime, but it still amazes me how its fans still can't accept that this show is no longer number one.
Jul 17, 2024 7:10 AM

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Frieren has exactly what is needed to surpass FMAB: top tier production value + the right mix of things that can appeal to both the young (fantasy action) and the expert (contemplativeness) anime watchers. Some young anime fans will hate the slow parts and some expert fans will hate the battle shounen elements, but both sides were necessary to make it the #1 anime.

So, do I think Frieren deserves the #1 spot? I'd love to say yes since I do think it's the best anime among all the ones that ever reached the #1 spot on MAL, but... I feel that not being a complete story will hurt its score (obviously affected by recency bias right now) in the long run. Especially if a second season will come out and it most likely won't be as well crafted, since some people like to give the same score to every season of a franchise (so an inferior sequel will have a negative effect on the score of the previous seasons too).

Even ignoring the possibilty of a sequel, MAL users usually give a lot of importance to a proper ending so I don't think Frieren will keep the #1 spot forever; the percentage of positive reviews is also way lower than every other non-sequel anime in the top 20.
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Jul 17, 2024 7:15 AM

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I think frieren has h8gh quality animation, but I think that is not much of a factor in my general fav anime. Frieren appeals to one of the widest audiences so that is another reason how it can take #1 spot for average scores. My fav anime are not really for all demographics.
Jul 17, 2024 7:19 AM

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I don't think any of the anime in the ranked top 400 deserve the number 1 spot, but who cares anyway? It's just a popularity contest at the end of the day.
@Archean-Return Half of the anime in MAL top 100 can be still considered as hidden gem. Moreover majority of this anime gets decent amount of popularity after receiving higher rating and praise by audiance.
Jul 17, 2024 7:22 AM

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Personally I think Vinland Saga S2 is superior than any anime I have seen thus far but I am happy that Frieren is still holding No.1 position on MAL.
Jul 17, 2024 7:22 AM

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No, I find it massively overrated, but good for it I guess.
Jul 17, 2024 7:33 AM

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Frieren has exactly what is needed to surpass FMAB: top tier production value + the right mix of things that can appeal to both the young (fantasy action) and the expert (contemplativeness) anime watchers. Some young anime fans will hate the slow parts and some expert fans will hate the battle shounen elements, but both sides were necessary to make it the #1 anime.

So, do I think Frieren deserves the #1 spot? I'd love to say yes since I do think it's the best anime among all the ones that ever reached the #1 spot on MAL, but... I feel that not being a complete story will hurt its score (obviously affected by recency bias right now) in the long run. Especially if a second season will come out and it most likely won't be as well crafted, since some people like to give the same score to every season of a franchise (so an inferior sequel will have a negative effect on the score of the previous seasons too).

Even ignoring the possibilty of a sequel, MAL users usually give a lot of importance to a proper ending so I don't think Frieren will keep the #1 spot forever; the percentage of positive reviews is also way lower than every other non-sequel anime in the top 20.
@Nirinbo Why are FMAB and Steins;Gate still in the top 5?
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Jul 17, 2024 7:36 AM
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my only problem is its not a complete story yet and its only season 1
Jul 17, 2024 7:39 AM

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ZXEAN said:
Half of the anime in MAL top 100 can be still considered as hidden gem.
As in, you think there are at least fifty obscure or forgotten series in the Top 100 list? That's a more generous interpretation of what qualifies for "hidden" than I think even many casual viewers would have.


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Jul 17, 2024 7:43 AM

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Ohhhhhhh weeeeeeelll... Here we go again...

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ZXEAN said:
Half of the anime in MAL top 100 can be still considered as hidden gem.
As in, you think there are at least fifty obscure or forgotten series in the Top 100 list? That's a more generous interpretation of what qualifies for "hidden" than I think even many casual viewers would have.
@Archean-Return Wrong interpretation.
Jul 17, 2024 7:49 AM

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Yes, Frieren is the Japanese Beren and Lúthien. I still believe that 9.35 isn't high enough
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Jul 17, 2024 7:56 AM

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Yes, Frieren is the Japanese Beren and Lúthien. I still believe that 9.35 isn't high enough
@Phosphophyllita Is Frieren really that good?
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Jul 17, 2024 7:59 AM

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I love the series (I have only read the manga) but I don't think it deserves the top spot. To be fair, even full metal alchemist doesn't deserve the top spot imo (it is an amazing story and should still probably be top 5 but not the best)

If the one piece adaptation by wit studios does well then that should probably take the top spot.
Jul 17, 2024 8:00 AM
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It was about time FMAB left the number 1 spot, but also Frieren wasn't the anime to do it.
Jul 17, 2024 8:07 AM

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@Nirinbo Why are FMAB and Steins;Gate still in the top 5?
@SupremeGod They have good production value + things that can make them beloved by both young and expert anime fans just like Frieren, but they also tell a complete story which is a huge advantage. Their scores also fell over time, it's just that other anime fell harder.
Jul 17, 2024 8:07 AM

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No, I don't think so. I'm not a very big fan of Frieren but if it's up there it probably deserves it ┐⁠(⁠ ⁠∵⁠ ⁠)⁠┌
Jul 17, 2024 8:15 AM

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I don't care too much about popularity contest

Jul 17, 2024 8:19 AM
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Well I don't care Mal Score anyway, I'm still hunting for hidden gems
As for Frieren the show is good reminds me of good old Record of Lodoss
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Jul 17, 2024 8:28 AM

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Oh look yet another Frieren ranking thread that has been posted many t,mes befopre in the Frirereb forum but posted here for extra attention.
Jul 17, 2024 8:31 AM

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Nop Death note deserves that throne ;)
Jul 17, 2024 8:36 AM

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I don't think any of the anime in the ranked top 400 deserve the number 1 spot, but who cares anyway? It's just a popularity contest at the end of the day.
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Well, Planetarian does not deserve number 1 spot, that's for sure.
Jul 17, 2024 8:37 AM

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@Phosphophyllita Is Frieren really that good?
@SupremeGod It's number 1 and you are still asking that question.
Jul 17, 2024 8:50 AM

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JoeChip said:
Well, Planetarian does not deserve number 1 spot, that's for sure.
For sure to you, maybe. I believe it could very well have the No.1 spot, and it would very much deserve such a placement, unlike Memories.


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Jul 17, 2024 8:59 AM

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I think it just makes sense that Frieren is #1. I'm not saying it is like the best anime oat because that is completely subjective (like you could get 100 different answers from 100 different people) but it is a very difficult anime to not like. It has insane animation and great production quality overall (great OST, great character designs, etc.), a great start to the show, a compelling storyline that can appeal to anyone with nothing controversial surrounding it (like it has no pedos or fan service or anything of the sort) and it also has both really slow pacing worldbuilding moments and great fights that extend the magic power system of the show. It is also a relatively new IP that had no haters beforehand (it came out no nowhere so it was taken by the community like a breath of fresh air and a pleasant surprise) and it doesn't have an annoying fanbase. Like it was basically the perfect combination of everything that a "#1 spot" anime would have to strive for.
Take for example Attack on Titan. I know a lot of people that would argue that it is the greatest anime of all time but only one of its seasons is inside the top 20 (which is 5th right now). The thing is that as much as people generally love AOT it is such a massive anime that it will inevitably have a lot of haters. It also has a story with a lot of heavy themes, the 3rd and 4th season are greatly different in setting and tone and it even changed studios midway through that.
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Jul 17, 2024 9:00 AM
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Let zoomers have their show for once.
Jul 17, 2024 9:05 AM
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I don't think both of those are, but I accept it because I know the anime that deserve it in my opinion will never be the most popular and at least I get why they are popular
Jul 17, 2024 9:08 AM

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No. Its a good show and all that, but its significance is way below other anime on the top list.
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Jul 17, 2024 9:10 AM

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Yea I think Frieren deserves it. But 9.35 average is too high. I'm curious if S2 will be another 9+ rating or even overtake Frieren S1.
Jul 17, 2024 9:12 AM

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No, but I love it so much. There's no absolute "No. 1" anime anyway since fans will always clash over these unnecessary bullshit, let alone MAL ratings, which somewhat represent a minority in the general population.
Jul 17, 2024 9:16 AM

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Anime can be objectively bad , but we can't define THE better anime , like , we can't compare Bleach to Kaguya Sama love is war

The thing of the "better anime or manga" is just stupid tbh.
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JoeChip said:
Well, Planetarian does not deserve number 1 spot, that's for sure.
For sure to you, maybe. I believe it could very well have the No.1 spot, and it would very much deserve such a placement, unlike Memories.
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Aww, someone has been touchy and has visited my profile, how cute. FYI, Memories is not my no 1 favorite anime I simply put it among my favorites.
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Aww, someone has been touchy and has visited my profile, how cute. FYI, Memories is not my no 1 favorite anime I simply put it among my favorites.
@JoeChip The irony of trying to call out digging for ammo on profiles after outing yourself as having done just that isn't lost on me. Guess what? Planetarian is just among my favourites as well, because I don't have any one favourite series. Don't bother taking potshots at other users if you aren't prepared for them to do the same.


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Jul 17, 2024 9:30 AM

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Yes, it's currently best fantasy anime with amazing soundtrack and animation
Jul 17, 2024 9:36 AM

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Personally, I have it ranked at #283 on my list. Did I like it? Yes, by the end. Did I think it was a masterpiece? No.

But I don't really care about the top anime listed on MAL. It feels pretty arbitrary anyway.
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@JoeChip The irony of trying to call out digging for ammo on profiles after outing yourself as having done just that isn't lost on me. Guess what? Planetarian is just among my favourites as well, because I don't have any one favourite series. Don't bother taking potshots at other users if you aren't prepared for them to do the same.
@Archean-Return

There is no irony here. I simply pointed out a fact after your edgelord remark but you made it personal and took the effort to check my favorites so you could come up with a "smart" response you think that would somehow prove me wrong or annoy me , when in fact you took the most inane and pathetic route with the same impact of a child throwing a snowball at an adult for being told off.

And I really don't care if you like Planetarian or whatever series, it doesn't change what I said, yet you feel compelled to tell me that for whatever reason .
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