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Jan 10, 2010 2:06 PM

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This seems like an interesting thread to post in... though I must admit I haven't read the vast majority of the posts.

I have no idea why girls like yaoi, but the fact of the matter is, they do. I will not make any stipulations on whether or not they get excited sexually at reading these types of media (in the same way that males would get excited by reading hentai), but I guess you could say it's the forbidden nature of it that they find attractive. Some of the girls I know seemed to be really pleased at the fact that people would give them weird stares when they read yaoi manga in the subway. I have never read a yaoi manga in my life, the closest to it would probably be X/1999 that I am yet to finish, so I am not aware of most of the specifics, so I can't comment on why the content would in any way be interesting.
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Jan 10, 2010 2:28 PM

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gross.

Not as gross as a guy and a girl kissing.


I agree.
Jan 10, 2010 3:17 PM
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I like yaoi occasionally (but I haven't really read any yaoi manga, only fanfiction), but even I can't explain why I like it... I guess when two hot guys already have a special connection (through dislike, rivalry, grudging friendship...), it would be interesting to see what it would be like if they got together.

However I don't like all kind of yaoi. For example, I hate it when one is dominant and the other submissive (something that is in almost every yaoi manga unfortunately), for example when one is much taller/manlier than the other...
The porn doesn't really interest me (I usually tend to skip these scenes), but it doesn"t disgust me, it all depends on how it's described.

I think what I like about yaoi is that the love story is often much deeper than in a heterosexual love story, it's sometimes almost desperate, perhaps yeah because of its forbidden nature (a little like in Brokeback Mountain, the movie would have much less impact if it was between a man and a woman). Besides, most yaoi stories I like are quite depressing, and a lot don't have a happy ending...

So I think that yaoi as in just smut is pretty much useless, I like to see how the relationship develops and how the characters deal with it (and I mean real psychological insight and character development).
Jan 10, 2010 3:29 PM

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I don't really care actually

Yaoi fan girls at my school paid 2 guys to makeout.....it was really awkard.

gross. those two guys are probably gay.

Not necessarily, if they had to get paid to do it. :>

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though what's intriguing me more is
would girls still like yaoi in real life?

Depends on the person. Most of the yaoi fans I know at least like live-action movies and shows about/involving gay characters/couples (and/or slash of live-action movies and shows). Gay porn seems to be less popular, since a lot of the yaoi fanbase (myself included) seems to prefer written and drawn porn to real people porn.

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Jan 10, 2010 3:35 PM
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I think that's because real people porn is mainly for gays, whereas drawn yaoi porn is for girls ^^
Jan 10, 2010 4:02 PM

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But aren't heterosexual relationships more interesting? I mean, you can relate to the characters then, and I usually prefer it when I can put myself in the character's shoes.
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Because with the way heterosexual relationships are pictured in anime/manga, I find them too common, and more "cute" than really deep.
And I think you can still relate to the characters and understand their feelings, even if they're both boys ; what I like in yaoi is that relationships are often more complex and the story doesn't end as soon as the characters get together (like in most shojos).

Well, yaoi is clearly a girl thing, I've never read yuri (and I don't think I ever will), so I don't know how it is, but it would be wrong to see yaoi as just porn for fangirls in heat (even if there is a little of that too XD).
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Jan 10, 2010 5:25 PM

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georgi said:
But aren't heterosexual relationships more interesting? I mean, you can relate to the characters then, and I usually prefer it when I can put myself in the character's shoes.


But if you're a guy and you're watching/reading yaoi, you can self insert into ALL the characters!
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Jan 10, 2010 5:58 PM

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rTz said:
georgi said:
But aren't heterosexual relationships more interesting? I mean, you can relate to the characters then, and I usually prefer it when I can put myself in the character's shoes.


But if you're a guy and you're watching/reading yaoi, you can self insert into ALL the characters!


Gee, thanks.

Also, I find yuri boring as well, just to make it clear...
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The thing with yaoi is the girls are that are pretty and are getting boyfriend's don't like it, and the ugly girls who can't get a boyfriend do. They simply know they can't get the guy, and would be jealous if some other girl hooked up with them, so they prefer a guy. It's like "if I can't have you nobody else can!" kind of thing.

In my opinion gays can't love, gay is simply an act of lust. It goes against evolution + natural selection, it is abnormal.

And the characters in yaoi, look like ugly manly girls, and the way they behave is so surreal that it's pathetic. Nobody is going to be an uke in real life, but this bullshit gets these ideas in the fangirls heads and then they try to make you kiss other guys and other stupid shit like that. Perhaps the fangirls should watch some realistic gay interaction.

And hetalia yaoi is just god awful, it's like calling your entire country queer.

At least yuri fans aren't as overbearing and annoying about it.

Side note: I dislike both yuri and yaoi.
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the girls are that are pretty and are getting boyfriend's don't like it, and the ugly girls who can't get a boyfriend do.


I know from personal experience that is not the case; some really hot girls I know dig yaoi a lot; they are really pretty, and one of them is married and had a baby recently.
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Jan 10, 2010 6:47 PM

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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, my standards and your standards are obviously different.
Going to a single convention one can see the kind of 'girls' who like this kind of stuff, none of them good enough to even be considered datable.
Ugly girls can get married too. And even if she was beautiful that's one example out of the many I have seen.
When I asked a bunch (20-30 at different times in life) of amazing looking girls what they thought about guy on guy relationships all of them said it grossed them out.
Jan 10, 2010 6:58 PM

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Ah, you got me, dude... I obviously can't differentiate ugly from beautiful girls. And of course, only ugly girls who can't get a boyfriend like yaoi, but ugly girls can get married too.

edit: yeah, ukonkivi, with hindsight I realize I fed it
georgiJan 10, 2010 7:24 PM
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Jan 10, 2010 7:04 PM

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georgi said:
But aren't heterosexual relationships more interesting? I mean, you can relate to the characters then, and I usually prefer it when I can put myself in the character's shoes.


That is why I overall prefer hetero couples.

And same thing goes for hentai. Watching two girls/guys do it bores me to tears for some reason.


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1stmexicanpres said:
In my opinion gays can't love, gay is simply an act of lust. It goes against evolution + natural selection, it is abnormal.

And the characters in yaoi, look like ugly manly girls, and the way they behave is so surreal that it's pathetic.

And hetalia yaoi is just god awful, it's like calling your entire country queer.


SO. MUCH. FAIL.
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Jan 10, 2010 7:15 PM

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Nom nom nom, my own words taste quite delicious.
Anyway, ugly girls can get married to ugly boys.
They can do this through online dating sites, which technically is not considered a boyfriend girlfriend relationship.
When I said "can't get a boyfriend" I was referring to one that wasn't a hideously obese otaku.
Jan 10, 2010 7:16 PM

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Strong likelihood of troll imho.

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okay there are beautiful and ugly people who like yaoi and yuri. and its because chicks get to see two hot guys and the guys act so feminine and unreal that they can put them selves in the place of the characters.

except for my ex's gay friend, "bella donna" (he picked his nickname) he would act just as feminine as most yaoi characters and he isnt ugly.

Jan 10, 2010 7:26 PM

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lol this thread
Jan 10, 2010 7:32 PM

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I am speaking from a male perspective, but whats hotter than two girls making love? I'll answer my own question by saying three girls making love.
Jan 10, 2010 7:37 PM

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What? Let's be real here. Anime fans tend not to look like Narcissus, or Venus. Some looks ok but most of them are...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vcGOpuCHwA
just watch some of these videos from yaoicon, it's not like this guy was going around scoping only ugly women, he just took the opportunity to take a picture whenever possible. You're going to tell me there are beauties in that video? Go ahead and look at some videos in the relations too if you want.
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Jan 10, 2010 8:24 PM

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1stmexicanpres said:
This is what I believe. I don't understand why I'm getting attacked for my opinion.


Because you're a homophobe.
Jan 11, 2010 8:10 AM

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1stmexicanpres said:
This is what I believe. I don't understand why I'm getting attacked for my opinion.

As Drunk Samurai just demonstrated: tolerance to intolerance is not allowed, and intolerance to intolerance is. It's quite silly, but that's how things are in general.
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1stmexicanpres said:
What? Let's be real here. Anime fans tend not to look like Narcissus, or Venus. Some looks ok but most of them are...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vcGOpuCHwA
just watch some of these videos from yaoicon, it's not like this guy was going around scoping only ugly women, he just took the opportunity to take a picture whenever possible. You're going to tell me there are beauties in that video? Go ahead and look at some videos in the relations too if you want.
This is what I believe. I don't understand why I'm getting attacked for my opinion.

Just to tell you, YC is not the worst. Because it's limited to 18+, so you are missing the underage cat-eared fatties rolling with paddles.
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Jan 13, 2010 11:29 PM

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Yaoi is hot for some and definitely not for others. Don't ask me why I'm addicted to it, I don't know either. D:
Jan 15, 2010 1:56 PM

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I guess it's for the same reason that guys like yuri. I guess that it's just something that people like, but nobody can really say exactly why.

I'm not a yaoi fan myself, so I'm not really helpful in explaining why people like it.
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Jan 15, 2010 2:04 PM

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Its like how most guys think girl x girl is hot. Quite a few girls find guy x guy hot, but not all like it to the rabid retarded yaoi fangirl level.
Jan 16, 2010 10:58 AM

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well to me its cos 2 guys who are hot loving each other :P
and they act and think as a girl would
i can relate to it more
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