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Mar 5, 2010 7:08 PM
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Guen dies and Walton doesn't?! WTH! But overall a good ending anyway...a very good ending.

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Mar 26, 2010 6:52 AM
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I do not know if I was not paying attention but does it say why Guinevere dies?
Mar 26, 2010 8:14 AM
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ezikialrage said:
I do not know if I was not paying attention but does it say why Guinevere dies?



I don't think it did...I was originally thinking while I was watching the episode that she died giving birth to the baby named Guen, and Dan and Sue adopted it. However, i was proved wrong later in the episode. hey, maybe it was a broken heart over Ryu. Or maybe not...

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Dec 21, 2010 5:26 AM
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Simply_Waiting said:
ezikialrage said:
I do not know if I was not paying attention but does it say why Guinevere dies?



I don't think it did...I was originally thinking while I was watching the episode that she died giving birth to the baby named Guen, and Dan and Sue adopted it. However, i was proved wrong later in the episode. hey, maybe it was a broken heart over Ryu. Or maybe not...


I got realy doubts about she dying because of Ryu, as she did not exactly hook up with him or anything. The mystery behind why she died I think have struck alot of people. so if anyone at all know why, a realy why. I would also love to know.
Jan 5, 2011 1:55 PM
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hyptocalus said:



So if anyone at all know why, a realy why. I would also love to know.


I think she had a disease. She was in an hospital before her uncle transferred her to Funeral and when she was recorvering later on in the series she told Ryu something like: "a good thing they didn't notice it, becauseIi want to fly more".
Apr 26, 2011 1:34 PM
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BobStar said:
hyptocalus said:



So if anyone at all know why, a realy why. I would also love to know.


I think she had a disease. She was in an hospital before her uncle transferred her to Funeral and when she was recorvering later on in the series she told Ryu something like: "a good thing they didn't notice it, becauseIi want to fly more".


In Ep.18 there was a flashback hinting some kind of accident in her youth ... involving an exposure to radiation during a stay on a space station.
Jun 4, 2011 8:55 PM
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I agree, it was a great wrap up to a very underrated series. Hattie and Walton grew on me. At first they both grated on me.

Poor Ryu has the heterochromia :p
Jun 7, 2012 4:58 PM
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yeah i liked too walton and Hattie, cared most for Walton good he survived to tell story of only dog that ended alien invasion.
May 12, 2013 6:06 PM
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I thought this was the best episode of the entire series.

Sure it was a wrap-up episode, but I thought it would have made a great pilot. I actually wanted to see what happens next after they go into space.
Oct 2, 2013 9:45 PM

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Well, it was a pretty solid ending. There was some odd stuff in this series, but overall it was a pretty good Evangelion clone.
Dec 17, 2013 3:30 PM

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6/10. Ending was kinda lackluster as with the finale. I enjoyed some of the character moments but overall wasn't that good. Animation fits well for a sci-fi theme show though especially in the 2000s.
May 7, 2015 8:20 PM

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I like this series, but I'm under the impression that it was made by two different people: The first person made a story like Neon Genesis Evangelion, putting all of his/hers passion into it. The second person took a look at the plot written by the first, disliked and went "Oh... Let's try and changed this... and this too..." and so, the passion was gone. :(

But this doesn't make the series bad in itself. I think it could have been better, actually, a lot better than it was, but it was enjoyable nonetheless.
May 16, 2015 2:29 AM

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Okay, i just finished the series and it was good . But can someone tell me where Lt. Green went i didnt see her in the epilogue. Its nice that Ryu moved on he was always sad and angry the entire series.
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Finished Argento Soma today. I have to say, it’s quite underrated. I’ve often seen it compared to Neon Genesis Evangelion, but I really think the two shows are entirely different and each have their own merits.

My criticism is that the designs of the aliens are rather boring (each alien type looks the same, whereas each angel in NGE had its own design) - then if you’re used to watching newer anime, the art style may seem dated too (not that I can call myself a connoisseur of pre-2000 anime, as the only titles I’ve actually seen from the 90s and earlier were the Evangelion series, Shoujo Kakumei Utena, and Akira). The last episode featured a 6-year jump which I think didn’t explain the events over the timeskip very well (not going to spoil anything about it, but one of those included a character death that seemed to just get a passing mention).

The plot may not be as grandiose as NGE’s, but I think the character development and interaction was far more interesting than NGE’s. I haven’t seen the rebuilds, but I felt that NGE could have done better in communicating its plot towards the end - it seemed rather nebulous, even after I watched End of Evangelion (fortunately that’s what wikis are for).


justGM said:
Okay, i just finished the series and it was good . But can someone tell me where Lt. Green went i didnt see her in the epilogue. Its nice that Ryu moved on he was always sad and angry the entire series.


You may have missed the part where Hattie put flowers on her grave. As other posters said above, she had a terminal illness. I was wondering why she was dead, as this episode didn't explain it overtly, but it now makes sense.
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Jan 25, 2016 11:16 AM

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The series only get really good at the end. Good finale for an almost good series.

It's not underrated; Argento Soma is REALLY boring and poorly constructed - if you have to get to the last 7-8 episodes in a series to like it, it shouldn't deserve a high score. Glad I sticked to the end; but I think it would be better if it had only about 13 episodes.
Mar 18, 2016 10:38 PM
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God speed Ryu Soma.
Mar 23, 2016 1:41 PM
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It really took a while before the series really kicked into gear. It could have been done in 13 episodes I think.

I always thought that Hattie and Maki had some sort of link but it seems I was mistaken. It is implied though that Hattie and Ryu become close at the end, right?
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Ok so I finished the series but one thing that bugged me did maki break up Ryo in an email was she seeing her professor was that her last her last words to Ryo when she was about to die idk Im kinda losing sleep over this can someone give me piece on mind please
Nov 25, 2018 1:38 PM

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This was really good. This series was boring but I loved it. I don't know how it's possible. I didn't hate it at all and I think I will find it less boring if I give it a rewatch.

This series is so underrated. It deserves more love.
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Jul 1, 2019 7:35 PM
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This anime was a strange one. First 19 or so episodes were mostly dull episodic content that wasn't bad and from episodes 20 onwards and especially with the reveal of the final alien invasion, the anime became great and engaging. This last episode was like Gunbuster's last episode but much better.

I had this at a 3 but I'll think I'll bump it into a 5. Not nearly as convoluted as RahXephon and EVA, and the character development and interaction was stronger even if dragged its feet. Very low on anime cliches and archetypes also. Rooted in realism for better or worse (dull to engaging).
Sep 9, 2019 6:42 PM
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I think it's a very satisfactory ending with a hopeful message. Dreams, love, second chances and future; This anime talks about overcoming self-destructive feelings like 'revenge', and understanding ourselves and the people around us. In the end, the characters manage to get a 'happy ending' to their own arc's, especially Ryu and Hattie. Them were my favorites throughout the anime and I am very happy for their development. Each one matured a lot in those six years that they were separated, and now that they met again they can finally walk hand in hand. Together.
May 13, 2023 9:47 PM
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That sequence at the end, with everyone being on the Ulysses was masterfully done. I can see a lot of work and effort went into the conclusion of the series. 
Jul 12, 2023 9:16 PM

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An ostensibly terrible anime. The plot seems unfocused and directionless, combat scenes are painfully laggardly, visuals are flat and unimpressive, the characters are either walking military stereotypes or barely functioning maniacs, and the soundtrack is repetitive. All the messages the anime tries to convey fall flat on their face because no one in the series takes them seriously or learns anything from them until they magically experience an unrealistic amount of fake character development by instantly changing their mentality in the final episodes without a sufficient event catalyst.
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