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Jun 21, 2023 4:39 PM
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What are your criteria for the character aspect of the show and how much does it contribute to your judgment on the overall score of a show? I am curious about what the community thinks about it. I'll be doing other variations of this question in the following days. 
Jun 21, 2023 4:53 PM
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Besides enjoyment, characters is the most important aspect in an anime for me.
Jun 21, 2023 5:12 PM
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"The character aspect of the show"? That's gobbledegook, you can't take the characters out of a show and consider them in isolation, that's silly.
Jun 21, 2023 5:15 PM
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logopolis said:
"The character aspect of the show"? That's gobbledegook, you can't take the characters out of a show and consider them in isolation, that's silly.
I think it's more silly that you assume that judging the character aspect should be in isolation. Please, you know better than to answer like that.
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Jun 21, 2023 5:29 PM
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Characters are probably the most important aspect to any anime/show for me, it contributes a good bit to my overall rating.
Jun 21, 2023 8:20 PM
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1. Enjoyment
2. Characters
3. Story
4. Everything else (animation, OST, voice acting, etc.)
Jun 21, 2023 9:12 PM
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there are infinite different ways to write a good character.

as long as they aren't "generic" or "one note" that's good enough for the start. 
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1- Annoyance (I mean annoying characters not story being slow or fast)
2- Worldbuilding and story telling
3- Animation and music
4- ecchi and fanservice quality 
Jun 21, 2023 9:48 PM
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Idk. Tbh i've never cared about characters that much in fiction. The whole picture is FAR more important than mere one portion.
Jun 21, 2023 10:51 PM

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I'm with them above me. Sometimes a show is good thanks to its plot despite not having very good characters, and vice versa.

I can say though, that I usually rate the first type higher than the second.
Jun 21, 2023 10:53 PM

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I dont really get the question but uh yeah they are important i guess
Jun 22, 2023 1:54 AM

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Criteria? Characters need to be likable. You can do that through character development, but not necessarily. Little quirks, flaws, introspection and so on contribute to making characters more relatable and likable.

How much does the character aspect affect the score of a show? A lot. I believe that a common development in anime fans is moving from "plot is everything" to "characters are everything", once you've seen enough plots are realized that most of them aren't good.
Jun 22, 2023 2:01 AM

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kycnui said:
I think it's more silly that you assume that judging the character aspect should be in isolation. Please, you know better than to answer like that.


If that's not what "the character aspect" means, then you'll have to explain it in more detail if you want me to understand. Perhaps with examples of how it differs depending if you're talking about a character-based narrative or not.
Jun 22, 2023 2:07 AM

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Characters are important for the enjoyment of course.

Show can be story driven too and characters can have a back seat.



The biggest issue with show enjoyment for me is of course difference in tastes and values.

People who like tsunderes would shovel them everywhere and that will ruin the show for me. However there are these people among anime staff who like tsunderes and shovel them everywhere.


People have different tastes, that is why there are so many -dere types

If you study dere types, you can understand how many different types of people there are.
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Jun 22, 2023 2:22 AM

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ThorLL said:
Show can be story driven too and characters can have a back seat.


I think what you're getting at there is what I would call "plot driven" because "stories about characters" is definitely a thing.

Basically, I would define five categories: "plot-based narrative", "character-based narrative", "theme-based narrative", "fake narrative" (this is a pejorative) and "marginal narrative" (some slice of life anime and art films are over here).
Jun 22, 2023 2:28 AM
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I have to like characters to continue a show, at least I have to think they are interesting enough and might continue, if the story is carrying enough.
There is a lot more enjoyment in it tho, if I actually do love the characters.
Jun 22, 2023 3:33 AM

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logopolis said:
ThorLL said:
Show can be story driven too and characters can have a back seat.


I think what you're getting at there is what I would call "plot driven" because "stories about characters" is definitely a thing.

Basically, I would define five categories: "plot-based narrative", "character-based narrative", "theme-based narrative", "fake narrative" (this is a pejorative) and "marginal narrative" (some slice of life anime and art films are over here).
Slice of live can be considered character based. people watch it because they like the characters. Say I like Syaro and Chino from Gochiusa and watch it to see more of these two. I mean fundamentally people watch these kinds of shows because they can like the characters and not because the next visit to Amausa-an makes for an interesting plot.

However there could be shows that mostly rely on plot. That is none of the characters are that interewting by themselves but story is interesting and youy just keep watching because you want to know what will happen next.

What is 'fake narrative' or 'theme-based'?

Theme based I can guess is something like Mushishi, where story is plain and so is characters but the art and that feel/vibe of these mushi things keeps things cozy.

'fake-narrative' is still up in the air though.





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Jun 22, 2023 4:02 AM

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They are important to me as much as the previous users here mentioned. If they are lousy, the show wears out.

Jun 22, 2023 5:25 AM

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ThorLL said:
Slice of live can be considered character based. people watch it because they like the characters.


That depends. For example, K-ON has a character-based narrative, because the overall direction is driven by lots of subtle character development. Whereas Azumanga Daioh is marginal narrative, since the characters tend to adapt to the needs of the jokes and the feel. This isn't about why you sit down to watch a thing, (because that's almost inevitably a big mix of stuff,) it's about what drives the flow of the story from the beginning to the end. (My memories of Gochiusa aren't strong enough to say where it would come.)

What is 'fake narrative' or 'theme-based'?


Fake narrative is when a production presents big climactic scenes for their impact, without bothering to actually put in the work and make them properly link up with everything else and be a genuine climax, hoping the audience will be too busy reacting by instinct to actually think about what they're seeing at all.

Theme-based narrative is when the driving force of the story is making observations, points or statements about the world in general. It's a lot more common in Western works since it goes well with the monotheistic idea of 'singular truth', but you have a few of them in anime, like anything by Ikuhara, Nausicaa, Now and Then, Here and There etc. Probably the far-right polemics like Shield Hero too, although I don't watch these so I don't know.
Jun 22, 2023 3:04 PM
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Plot and characters are the most important aspect in an anime for me... Specially female characters
 

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Big boobs, big butts, excessive and prominent nudity, no sex.
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1. Plot
2. Characters
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