But go nagai still exist n other veteran during ww2 where people praised berserk so much but no one appreciates Devilman as pioneer of dark show here lol |
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| I don't even want to think about when Tomino's or Miyazaki's time comes. But yeah, some of these deaths really came out of nowhere and definetely left a hole in the industry's and their fans' chests. Kazuki Takahashi's death still hurts the most, especially when you are an avid Yugioh player. Not to mention the victims of the Kyoani arson. Watching old movies and seeing Kigami in the credits really stings. |
MaceChanJun 11, 2023 11:21 PM
| "there is nothing to connect me" Premier Two (aka Peet) invented the term "boomer debuff"...and he meant it for himself, thus it works for gen-x-ers too. Everyone over their teen years will not connect that well, because anime is produced mainly for teens or adults who want to feel like teens. Personally I never wanted to fully connect with anime. It's the fun ideas which count...and we kind of get at least 2-3 fun shows every season. Even in the golden periods of anime we didn't get more than 6-7 actually fun shows a season...so I think I am fine with the current situation. "Monkey Punch" But we regularly get some Lupin III stuff - specials or even series. |
ISeeLifePeople said: Go Nagai is behind the UFO Robo Grendizer. But go nagai still exist n other veteran during ww2 where people praised berserk so much but no one appreciates Devilman as pioneer of dark show here lol He is one of the last of Silent Generation, before boomers start in 1946. |
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| I don't feel that way, it's natural for people to die and pass the baton, it's the 2020s so we need 2020s anime |
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ISeeLifePeople said: But go nagai still exist n other veteran during ww2 where people praised berserk so much but no one appreciates Devilman as pioneer of dark show here lol >Go Nagai >puts the trash Devilman adaptation NGMI |
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| I don't understand the point you're trying to make, since you listed names from multiple generations. There exist people older than those you mentioned who have not yet reached the average life expectancy and are still working, such as Rumiko Takahashi. If you loved 70s manga yet still found great 2000s manga written by different people, you can surely find great 2020s manga as well. |
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alshu said: Well, I am an adult who does not want to feel like a teen, but I still enjoy several types of anime. I don't think wanting to feel like a teenager is a prerequisite for fully enjoying anime. If the story, characters, art and music are good and I like the topic and ideas explored I can fully enjoy it (even if it's made, as probably most anime are, with the 13 - 19 age demographic in mind) and I feel that others do as well. Not to mention there ARE anime titles specifically made for adults - I think, probably, about 30% of them. I'm a person who appreciates art, high production quality, good writing, unique aesthetics and creativity and anime is a form of entertainment who offers these qualities, even if only through those 2 - 5 shows per season that you mentioned. Isn't that a high enough connection? I don't need to see myself in the characters or situations depicted if can understand the characters and what is happening, if I can appreciate what the show is trying to portray and if I enjoy the way it is portrayed. Everyone over their teen years will not connect that well, because anime is produced mainly for teens or adults who want to feel like teens. To the OP: every generation offers visionary, talented, sensitive, intelligent and creative people. You just have to discover them and to adapt to the inevitable changes of the world and of anime as a medium. Some things remain unchanged, even in the anime world. The legacy of past anime creators and artists is not lost, but built upon. I think that if we want to get the most out of anime as a medium we have to learn to love what our times have to offer. There are quality products even nowadays. 33 yo man here |
Vitali_OsandorJun 12, 2023 8:43 AM
Catalano said: I don't feel that way, it's natural for people to die and pass the baton, it's the 2020s so we need 2020s anime Yet it still took you by surprise despite that much of preparation |
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Vitali_Osandor said: alshu said: Well, I am an adult who does not want to feel like a teen, but I still enjoy several types of anime. I don't think wanting to feel like a teenager is a prerequisite for fully enjoying anime. If the story, characters, art and music are good and I like the topic and ideas explored I can fully enjoy it (even if it's made, as probably most anime are, with the 13 - 19 age demographic in mind) and I feel that others do as well. Not to mention there ARE anime titles specifically made for adults - I think, probably, about 30% of them. I'm a person who appreciates art, high production quality, good writing, unique aesthetics and creativity and anime is a form of entertainment who offers these qualities, even if only through those 2 - 5 shows per season that you mentioned. Isn't that a high enough connection? I don't need to see myself in the characters or situations depicted if can understand the characters and what is happening, if I can appreciate what the show is trying to portray and if I enjoy the way it is portrayed. Everyone over their teen years will not connect that well, because anime is produced mainly for teens or adults who want to feel like teens. To the OP: every generation offers visionary, talented, sensitive, intelligent and creative people. You just have to discover them and to adapt to the inevitable changes of the world and of anime as a medium. Some things remain unchanged, even in the anime world. The legacy of past anime creators and artists is not lost, but built upon. I think that if we want to get the most out of anime as a medium we have to learn to love what our times have to offer. There are quality products even nowadays. 33 yo man here I guess you missed some details. 1. I was talking about being connected. Like the story being relatable to you personally. Enjoying it can be a separated thing...usually is for me. 2. I said "not connect that well" which suggest the possibility to have a connection in several rare cases despite the cultural and age differences, because some things are universal. 3. I said "mainly" not "all", because of course there are show which aren't dedicated for teens. Vitali_Osandor said: about 30% of them You should admit that we have very little seinen (sadly those are usually trash like My Home Hero) and josei. |
Vitali_Osandor said: What I think aIshu is getting it is that to some degree you do need to enjoy YA styles of writing to constantly be invested in the medium. Like I don't want to feel like a teen but I still enjoy a lot of classic tropes and writing that does cater to that teen fantasy.alshu said: Well, I am an adult who does not want to feel like a teen, but I still enjoy several types of anime. I don't think wanting to feel like a teenager is a prerequisite for fully enjoying anime. If the story, characters, art and music are good and I like the topic and ideas explored I can fully enjoy it (even if it's made, as probably most anime are, with the 13 - 19 age demographic in mind) and I feel that others do as well. Not to mention there ARE anime titles specifically made for adults - I think, probably, about 30% of them. I'm a person who appreciates art, high production quality, good writing, unique aesthetics and creativity and anime is a form of entertainment who offers these qualities, even if only through those 2 - 5 shows per season that you mentioned. Isn't that a high enough connection? I don't need to see myself in the characters or situations depicted if can understand the characters and what is happening, if I can appreciate what the show is trying to portray and if I enjoy the way it is portrayed. Everyone over their teen years will not connect that well, because anime is produced mainly for teens or adults who want to feel like teens. To the OP: every generation offers visionary, talented, sensitive, intelligent and creative people. You just have to discover them and to adapt to the inevitable changes of the world and of anime as a medium. Some things remain unchanged, even in the anime world. The legacy of past anime creators and artists is not lost, but built upon. I think that if we want to get the most out of anime as a medium we have to learn to love what our times have to offer. There are quality products even nowadays. 33 yo man here Some people need to self insert, connect etc to I guess enjoy media and if you do it's not shocking that anime loses it's appeal when you no longer are that target market. Personally I never really had to nor ever really did even when I was younger therefore, it was easier to keep invested in the media when I "grew out of" YA fiction. Also I mean sure we get "anime for adults' I still think that many even shows/manga that are written with adult characters still feel kinda YA though. It's kinda rare to find something where I am like yeah this would air for a mainstream market of IDK 30/40 something adults as the main target audience. At least for anime you can find sure more in the manga sphere. Personally I see a lot of dejected fans often assert that (insert whatever year usually 90s or 2000s) was more maturely written than say the present but there often is an aspect of them thinking it was mature because they were younger when they were first exposed. Sure there are trends in the medium that have changed, unique artists and writers that pass and as a result there eventually comes to a point where you enjoy the hobby less and look for fonder times. Whether you can stay invested is entirely dependent on being able to see the good in the new and if you can't interest slowly dies or you just keep it to a smaller part of the fandom. We already have fans hitting this mindset and getting nostalgic for 2010s anime which I have seen lol. Stuff I would still classify as pretty new. In short you can't enjoy anime at least the same way you did a decade or more. You have to reinvent your interest or the hobby eventually passes you by and then you just keep to a small niche corner of old stuff or phase out of the hobby completely. It's natural. You can see this in most hobbies music, sports, games, books etc. |
BilboBaggins365Jun 12, 2023 1:38 PM
ISeeLifePeople said: But go nagai still exist n other veteran during ww2 where people praised berserk so much but no one appreciates Devilman as pioneer of dark show here lol Praising the genius Nagai is, but then linking the adaptation that completely bastardized his masterpiece, is peak irony. |
petran79 said: They've both been dead for years. Why are you only now upset?Some of the late ones like Satoshi Kon were one of a kind and I think his gap has not been covered yet. Same for Ryotaro Nakamura. Those two in particular took part in uniquely written works that attracted critical acclaim and were one of the reasons I got introduced to modern anime |
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