Why are anime adaptions halved and down milked?

ShatteredSans said:
This is because a lot of those chapters are fast-paced and are more action-oriented. Not every chapter is the same length, and when it comes to fast-paced action chapters, you can fit more of them in one 20 minute episode than you can with chapters that are more dialogue-heavy. 

The Chainsaw Man anime doesn't need to be 80 episodes long to faithfully adapt the manga without making many major cuts

KayY_Y said:
The CSM anime could comfortably fit the story into 2 cours. Ryuu Nakayama's tendency to focus on queiter and more introspective moments draws it out, not that it's a bad thing though.

Yutano99 said:
Why are the current adaptions not as long as older anime starting from the 90s til 2010 or so?


Reflecting to; chainsaw man manga has about 97 chapters, but will only get 3 anime seasons consisting about 12 episodes each?


I understand the business and priorities of the industry decently, enough to know, that it is possible, to have some well fame exploding series, that are as reliable as previous releases like one piece and Naruto and the likes, then why in this modern setting, is there lack of confidence to make worthy and deserving series, the same quality of adaption and such? 

Why does it seem that anime is become like some sort of fast food medium? 

In my regards, chainsaw man, deserves about 80 episodes at least, maybe 60. 


Having 12 episodes, and shortened story, is better and easier to consume? 

(including solo leveling, from 201 chapters to 12 episodes..............)

well I read the manga and watch the anime of most series, with such modern anime, it gets so bland due to the shortening of episodes and plot development, that I just cannot even understand it decently, and enjoy it, it feels empty and bland, like a standard off the mill sitcom. 

As if I am watching a spin off or something.... 

Do you think, at least worthy series, should be long term? reflecting its initial purpose? - a story, or a consumer based medium?

You read the manga right? highly possible. Because it was good and entertaining, right? It deserves better,


Last argument; "Well, the anime will be too long and quite dull...." Hmm, then why are manga series so long? Rightfully so, for the deserving reason, that it does well, having so much chapters and space for plot and expression, because it does well, otherwise manga where not that developed either... It does well because it has a good length of content. If chainsaw manga was filled like a sitcom, it would not have gotten a adaption... most likely....


Statistic comparison:

Manga

Naruto 
Members: 399,278
Favorites: 43,126

Chainsaw man
Members: 554,832
Favorites: 76,459

5ika said:
Some of the greatest adaptions of modern-ish age such as AoT and FMAB have shown that the optimal rate is right around 2 manga chapters per 1 episode. The days of filler and bad pacing for the sake of more episodes are a thing of the past and I at least see that as a good thing. 

I have tried getting into some of the older long running shonen anime but they are so incredibly boring and slow for the most part that I just can't. And this is coming from someone who usually enjoys fiction with slow starts to set up more complex character dynamics (Breaking Bad or Better Call Saul for example). The characters in most shonen are just way too boring to keep me interested in the show without the fast paced action. 

As far as something as Solo Leveling is concerned the whole story it is trying to set up ended up being horrible and I doubt the whole manhwa is going to be adapted in the 12 eps. Even so the chapters are very short about 3-4 per regular manga chapter.

Phosphophyllita said:
Because more is not always better.
Most anime stories don't need more than 24 episodes, Naruto would be better if they had cut 80% of its episodes.

ShatteredSans said:
This is because a lot of those chapters are fast-paced and are more action-oriented. Not every chapter is the same length, and when it comes to fast-paced action chapters, you can fit more of them in one 20 minute episode than you can with chapters that are more dialogue-heavy. 

The Chainsaw Man anime doesn't need to be 80 episodes long to faithfully adapt the manga without making many major cuts

KayY_Y said:
The CSM anime could comfortably fit the story into 2 cours. Ryuu Nakayama's tendency to focus on queiter and more introspective moments draws it out, not that it's a bad thing though.

BilboBaggins365 said:

The production is a mess for longer shows. Long running battle shonen were a cancer. Just look what happened to One Piece. Naruto with it's constant flashbacks, filler etc was only substantially better. Classics shows like DBZ also extended things way longer than it needed to be. It's honestly difficult to recommend those shows to new fans because of the production side of things. 

I mean sure animators are stretched out now but it was never that great for longer shows. Something as intense to animate like CSM S1 would be difficult to do in 1 go. I mean it's quite simple why they don't most studios cannot handle the production it would take to make a continuous 3-4 cour show in general forget something that is as intense as CSM. That is why split couring is a thing because it's hard to even do a 2 cour adaption with the increase of money leading to more adaptions and stringing out animators in the medium. 

 Also it doesn't need to be three seasons. I expect just two seasons maybe a movie. It's 97 chapters for Part 1 but the pacing in CSM is very fast relative to other titles. People already complained about Part 1 being slow. You don't need 80 episodes (WTF lol) to adapt Part 1. As for Part 2 will see how long it ends up being. Your average well paced adaption is adapting around 3-4 chapters per episode for a weekly manga maybe 1 to 1.5 for a monthly manga

ateks said:
People need to realize that anime are just advertisement for the manga and nothing more.

Yutano99 said:

Then if that is true for anime? Why is that argument not used for manga? "doesn't need to be 80 episodes" Then why is the manga for its just reason, needed to be more than 80 episodes? it still is quite from the end so far.... How does manga justify that for you? 80 or more chapters? If manga is too prolonged, then it would not have been that much chapters to begin with.

LuluThe3rd said:
200 chapters can easily finish in just 2-5 days depending on the manga.

Yutano99 said:

If fillers are a thing of the past, why is there no motivation to replace them with related episodes? from about 12 to 18 to 24 with that standard? I noticed that too, but for me, it seems too weak still. And also, a manga chapter is mostly about 1 episode, so with that it even seems compressed. Sorry, for me those changes are unfortunately not worthy and enough. Thanks for your opinion. - AoT might be the closet modern, actual adaption, I guess. 

ryo-san said:
Why don't you understand the importance of money and greed of humans to milk as much as you they can..
even if they have unlimited amounts they would still want more.. That's human nature..

LuluThe3rd said:

Bro have you even read manga in your life? Because I did and chapters are way to short suppose to its anime counter part. Let's say Chainsaw Man, how long it take read is depend on the person but it took about 5-7 min per chapters for me. And we do the math, 6×97=582 mins which is close to 10 hrs. And that's like 2 cour anime seasons + a movie. And average 20 mins 97 anime episodes at least take about 32 hrs. So in order to tell a story you would get from a 12 episodes anime, you need a least 3-4 volumes of manga (or 30-40 chapters if weekly, and about 12-16 if monthly).

Another thing, when you say when new anime are short, Chainsaw Man have about 11 volumes in total, do you know how long naruto is? 72 volumes. Seventy fucking two. Or about 720 chapters don't know exact numbers. Shit like Naruto anime was long (just minus all the filler) because manga was also fucking long. Chainsaw Man manga is way shorter than this. People are more forgiven when chapter number are like 100 because it wasn't actually that much of a time sinks, 200 chapters can easily finish in just 2-5 days depending on the manga. Long shit in manga is like 40 volumes and shit like that. I mean you read more manga than me dude that should be obvious.

5ika said:
Pacing wise most manga chapters feel drawn out if they take a whole episode. Reading the chapter takes 5 minutes at most so trying to stretch it into 20 minutes of anime usually will not end well. Some chapters are exceptions of course and it varies heavily between manga. But I agree that nowadays anime is used to farm hype for the manga and starts only at 12 episodes. Then farm the release of second season year later, then third season, etc. to have more hype and allow for better animation and work on other projects. The ugly side effect of this is that long running weekly shows from big manga are dying. 

Yutano99 said:
Then why does it not happen with manga as much? And even, in the modern standard book publishing culture? Why does anime and movies especially have this problem, with greed? 

Pyth79 said:
36 episodes is enough for Chainsaw man.
Naruto like shows were just destroying the pacing just to make more money out of it, which leads to really low budget episodes and filler.

Comparing the length of manga and anime also makes no sense as an argument. If you look at the time it takes to read the manga, it isn't longer than the anime but shorter. So because a manga has 100 chapters, doesn't mean it would be better if it had 100 eps, that would make it as slow as One Piece

Yutano99 said:
Hmm,, saying it takes too long, I get that, in a way. I have been there with manga, but planning neatly, has not made it harder for me, but easier. It is doable, time is there for a reason. And yes I read more, because I chose to make it a hobby, I can find myself in. I had my time with gaming and such, and besides reading manga, I like to make music, a creative purpose for my sense. With that, yes, I can experience its purpose, finish it and read more solely on my preference. Still, to straighten the context, if you think anime should be compressed, do you also think the new standard of manga should also be compressed? x writer proposes his story, editor and company, compresses it for commercial standards and simplicity? Would you still want to enjoy manga and anime, if it becomes that simple and bare? 

Yutano99 said:
That argument is counter productive, why is the manga that long to begin with? Why are you only inclined to blame anime for it? It makes sense, anime is officially stated to promote the series, the manga and a secondary production, with quality and sense. They are a combined term, in a way, of course, the anime mostly needs to reflect the manga. 

If you look at the past, the manga adaptions and even manga series that did well, where mostly at least having 50 and more, especially to be popular as an anime, to its bare 20 chapters at most. Reflecting the story neatly. 

Yutano99 said:
Wow, to me, that seems interesting; the part about, big manga series are dying, due to the lack of serious adaptions iguess? Thus manga creators are not that motivated to make it as it should whilst the company does the same. There are some exceptions luckily, but I hope, the manga industry will not get the same problem. Otherwise it will just become dust to me. It is more about farming, even though, the series become a semi variant due to the reduction, just nog enough. 

Yutano99 said:

Then if that is true for anime? Why is that argument not used for manga? "doesn't need to be 80 episodes" Then why is the manga for its just reason, needed to be more than 80 episodes? it still is quite from the end so far.... How does manga justify that for you? 80 or more chapters? If manga is too prolonged, then it would not have been that much chapters to begin with.

Yutano99 said:
Hmm, most anime episodes contain about 1 to 2 episodes. Also, to remind the context, the flash backs and fillers is apart from the manga. With the manga production, they are more strict, it must mostly always, contain actually depth, and progress to the plot. In anime its different. It is not about the filler aspect. When possible, the anime needs to be as long as the manga or so. If you find it too prolonged, rather taste and a matter of patience. You can also skip episodes, does not matter, because modern adaptions skip mostly half of its purpose... Reminding me, I think blue lock is the only actual decent good adaption so far, from all the releases since 2020, a actual modern example, of a good adaption. But still, that is one anime. 

- if you think the series is to long, then it is rather a sense of not liking the series to me. If you can only watch it till 80 from the 100, that is simply preference. Go watch something that has the fitting episodes, for its rightful purpose, or schedule the shows you want to watch better.