SaiteiDaOrette said: First, lemme say that Thai dramas are definitely not objectively better than anime. I had to watch those with my mom as a young kid and they sucked ass (although maybe they’ve improved over time, who knows?) Anime was probably marketed to Western audiences much more (and much earlier) than other forms of Asian media and thus was able to gain a steady mainstream following over time. It’s very versatile and appeals to many different audiences (whether it be cute girls or mature anime with heavy themes). It’s easy and convenient to watch (only having ~20 minute long episodes) which is especially relevant in an age where attention spans are at their all time low. But I may be wrong, who knows? I don’t consume much Asian media except anime (and IPL cricket, if that counts haha) Bro I’m Thai and let me ask you this: have you tried to watch actual good Thai dramas? I’m not talking about the trash that airs on television, I’m talking about the stuff on Netflix or streaming sites. Saying Thai dramas are shit because of the crap you’ve seen with your mom is like saying that American tv shows are bad after only having watched stuff like big bang theory and jersey shore. |
ShatteredSans said: I'm not gonna bother addressing most of what's said in this thread, cause you're obviously a troll, but anime isn't so much more popular than all other Asian media. Japanese video games have been incredibly popular in the west for a very long time. Some of the biggest gaming companies are in Japan, and many of the most popular and iconic gaming franchises originate from there. Japan is undeniably one of the biggest contributors to the gaming industry. >shits on anime > Must be a troll Kek la kek |
komic said: your on a site that is dedicated to anime and you ask this? trying too hard there. I don’t see what you’re getting at here. Lots of people here hate anime. Heck here’s one thread where most of the commenters are saying that RWBY is better than every anime and that anime is trash https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1471001 Just as you have users that love anime there are also folks that freaking hate it |
Runasius said: Those threads are from trolls who want to bully people who like anime. This is an anime site for people that like anime. If there are people who hate anime yet are still on this site then it's obvious why they are here. to troll.komic said: your on a site that is dedicated to anime and you ask this? trying too hard there. I don’t see what you’re getting at here. Lots of people here hate anime. Heck here’s one thread where most of the commenters are saying that RWBY is better than every anime and that anime is trash https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1471001 Just as you have users that love anime there are also folks that freaking hate it |
yuurei_tokyo said: Literally all the points that you just mentioned can also be applied to Western media too, lol. Anime's just the most accessible. I don't see many KDramas getting translated. (Plus, Anime's cool.) Why are you on an anime website if you hate anime so much? mangomaster said: man really just said bollywood is objectively better than anime There are plenty of folks on this site that freaking hate anime. Just look at some of the people in this thread for instance. There are four users on there that say they hate anime https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1471001 |
AnimeAnima said: And then k-drama's happened. Anime is still pretty niche, it's only because of the connectivity of the internet that anime fans can gather and share their love for the genre. It's like the same reason why people who supported the flu trux klan rally in Canada thought they were actually in the majority. It's an artificial bubble, if you don't make an effort to look outside every once and awhile it's rather easy to delude yourself into believing almost anything. Not saying anime isn't popular, it's just not up there with live action. Yet. Edit: not many people like Bollywood productions outside India and Indian expat communities. Outside of RRR I can't even think of any movies or TV shows that people talk about. And RRR receives many of the same criticisms most bollywood productions receive, that being they're over the top cheesy and entirely unbelievable. Like 70s HK and Taiwanese martial arts movies. Totally niche, only appeals to a certain audience. Anime trumps bollywood in popularity, k-drama's are mainstream in the west. I haven’t heard much criticism regarding RRR so I don’t know where you’re getting this info from. Even freaking Thatanimesnob likes RRR and that dude hates every anime that came out recently. |
DreamingBeats said: for someone who hates anime, manga, etc, you do seem to spend a disproportionate amount of your time on said medium and on forums dedicated to said medium. just saying... You do realize you can love something and acknowledge that it’s objectively garbage right? I freaking love a lot of anime, but truth be told on an objective level they are all trash. Even the ones regarded as being the cream of the crop have storytelling and animation worse than even a preschoolers cartoon. You are allowed to like garbage. I love laughing at how ridiculous all these garbage anime are and some of them are so unintentionally hilarious that I end up adding them to my favorites. |
| Well, Squid Game managed to reach a broader audience than most any anime has, so I wouldn't make any definitive statements without corresponding date |
bledsoe60 said: Well, Squid Game managed to reach a broader audience than most any anime has, so I wouldn't make any definitive statements without corresponding date Not really. I’d argue that dbz, attack on Titan, Ghibli, your name, and one piece are way more popular than squid game. Also while they aren’t more popular, Kaiji and liar game both are more well respected than squid game. |
Runasius said: Lol I gave up on Thai dramas waaaay before streaming services were popular... but if you say they're better now, maybe I'll watch one and change my opinion. Got any good recommendations?SaiteiDaOrette said: First, lemme say that Thai dramas are definitely not objectively better than anime. I had to watch those with my mom as a young kid and they sucked ass (although maybe they’ve improved over time, who knows?) Anime was probably marketed to Western audiences much more (and much earlier) than other forms of Asian media and thus was able to gain a steady mainstream following over time. It’s very versatile and appeals to many different audiences (whether it be cute girls or mature anime with heavy themes). It’s easy and convenient to watch (only having ~20 minute long episodes) which is especially relevant in an age where attention spans are at their all time low. But I may be wrong, who knows? I don’t consume much Asian media except anime (and IPL cricket, if that counts haha) Bro I’m Thai and let me ask you this: have you tried to watch actual good Thai dramas? I’m not talking about the trash that airs on television, I’m talking about the stuff on Netflix or streaming sites. Saying Thai dramas are shit because of the crap you’ve seen with your mom is like saying that American tv shows are bad after only having watched stuff like big bang theory and jersey shore. |
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BilboBaggins365 said: But we used to have boy bands in America too. Why did they die out if the demand is still here?Boy bands were dead and Korea came in and filled the void for all the obsessed fetishizing teenage girls. BilboBaggins365 said: The odd thing is that the west does have media catering to wide audiences, such as books. Why are studios here so reluctant to adapt these books? It seems almost any manga or novel can become an anime in Japan.If Western animation was catering to certain audiences as much as anime did (YA media, adult media, edgy content and yeah more sex appeal for both sexes) anime wouldn't be that popular in the West. |
| その目だれの目？ |
| Well. First, you need to make it clear that you're talking about modern anime. Old anime is a lot less cringe and especially sexist in general (Just don't watch anything that has Leiji Matsumoto's name on it I guess) Second, you answered your own question. "It’s racist, sexist, there’s sexualization of minors, the dialogue is corny, the animation is objectively awful compared to all other country’s animation." I don't know if you noticed but the anime community is racist, sexist, full of people who wank it to loli shit, think corny ass dialogue is the deepest thing ever, and good luck if you try to discuss animation with the average user. And your last bit about every other country having better animation... Yeah just watch better anime lmao. Nobody ain't touching some of the big names like Akira, GitS (95), Redline, that gorgeous Macross movie, and other massive blockbusters of the Golden Age. 'cept maybe golden age Disney. Maybe. But that's a lot older. |
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| This is seriously the worst bait account. If you hate anime so much stop fucking watching it. |
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| Here is the bait thread of the month. |
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Lucifrost said: Short answer: Western music labels are more concerned about pushing solo acts like Taylor Swift, Beyonce, Drake, The Weeknd, etc because they are easy to manage. In fact most groups with the exception of K-pop bands don't really dominate the US charts like they use to back in the day. BilboBaggins365 said: But we used to have boy bands in America too. Why did they die out if the demand is still here?Boy bands were dead and Korea came in and filled the void for all the obsessed fetishizing teenage girls. |
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Runasius said: AnimeAnima said: And then k-drama's happened. Anime is still pretty niche, it's only because of the connectivity of the internet that anime fans can gather and share their love for the genre. It's like the same reason why people who supported the flu trux klan rally in Canada thought they were actually in the majority. It's an artificial bubble, if you don't make an effort to look outside every once and awhile it's rather easy to delude yourself into believing almost anything. Not saying anime isn't popular, it's just not up there with live action. Yet. Edit: not many people like Bollywood productions outside India and Indian expat communities. Outside of RRR I can't even think of any movies or TV shows that people talk about. And RRR receives many of the same criticisms most bollywood productions receive, that being they're over the top cheesy and entirely unbelievable. Like 70s HK and Taiwanese martial arts movies. Totally niche, only appeals to a certain audience. Anime trumps bollywood in popularity, k-drama's are mainstream in the west. I haven’t heard much criticism regarding RRR so I don’t know where you’re getting this info from. Even freaking Thatanimesnob likes RRR and that dude hates every anime that came out recently. RRR isn't an anime. Why would you look to some obscure anime critic for a review? Thatanimesnob, who? I've seen multiple movie reviews that said the exact same thing I did, it's over the top cheesy and entirely unbelievable. Also why do you use this site? It seems like you haven't updated your list since last year. Some wacked out troll with dead ass opinions who likes to make bait threads. Well I do bite 😁 |
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Runasius said: Just because there ARE other people on this site who hate anime doesn't make your thread make any more sense. Them being on here makes just as little sense as you being on an anime site.yuurei_tokyo said: Literally all the points that you just mentioned can also be applied to Western media too, lol. Anime's just the most accessible. I don't see many KDramas getting translated. (Plus, Anime's cool.) Why are you on an anime website if you hate anime so much? mangomaster said: man really just said bollywood is objectively better than anime There are plenty of folks on this site that freaking hate anime. Just look at some of the people in this thread for instance. There are four users on there that say they hate anime https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1471001 |
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| Bcuz anime doesn't have progressist stupidity in most part. You just explained it yourself. |
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Runasius said: Anime as a medium is so against what we in the west are told constitutes as good storytelling. It’s racist, sexist, Aka it's not politically correct garbage Runasius said: there’s sexualization of minors Yeah, that last bit might have more to do with the type of anime you choose to watch... |
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| The fact that anime doesn't often try to be cool, hip and trendy is what makes it so refreshing. |
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| This guy is probably a troll, mad respect for praising a terrible show during the peak of its hate bandwagon. |
AddaeAkono said: Why are groups pushed so heavily in Japan and South Korea?Lucifrost said: Short answer: Western music labels are more concerned about pushing solo acts like Taylor Swift, Beyonce, Drake, The Weeknd, etc because they are easy to manage. In fact most groups with the exception of K-pop bands don't really dominate the US charts like they use to back in the day. But we used to have boy bands in America too. Why did they die out if the demand is still here? |
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| i think the anime it's more popular than other asiatic medium because are diffrent form the rest of animation in the world, its too diffrent from your today average western cartoon, i mean what's the probability for an american animation studio to produce something like "FLCL", "Angels Egg", "Akira" or "Kill la Kill" it's too f*cking insane for normal American pepole, and it's great, I LOVE THIS. |
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Runasius said: this must to be a joke, i watched your profile and you have seen already more than 190 animes It’s no secret that anime has blown up in terms of popularity as of late. Saying it’s popular is a freaking understatement in fact, it’s a cultural phenomenon over here. Donghua, Asian dramas, bollywood, etc can’t seem to beat anime in terms of popularity and I don’t get it. Anime as a medium is so against what we in the west are told constitutes as good storytelling. It’s racist, sexist, there’s sexualization of minors, the dialogue is corny, the animation is objectively awful compared to all other country’s animation and most importantly lots of people freaking hate it. Yet it still gets talked about and still has way more fans than other Asian mediums. You don’t see k dramas being as widely talked about as you see with Japanese animation. Why is it that anime, an objectively inferior medium and one that’s mocked by others for being for losers and mouth breathers somehow gets more popular than other better mediums such as donghua, Bollywood, k dramas, thai dramas and heck even live action Japanese cinema? |
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Adriannitro said: something like "FLCL", "Angels Egg", "Akira" or "Kill la Kill" it's too f*cking insane for normal American pepole, and it's great, I LOVE THIS. Those aren't that popular tho, more of a niche titles. What gets popular nowadays in the West are cringe feasts like Bocchi and Oshi No Ko, also edglord feasts like battles shounen and isekai. |
| cuz anime is just better. it is one of the most superior form of media second only to books and sometimes even better than them. |
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| Are you sure it's more popular than kpop and Korean drama...? I don't understand why Korean dramas are so popular.. |
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Lucifrost said: I'm not sure if you seen the first episode of Oshi no Ko, but it was briefly explained why music groups such as idols are being pushed hard in Japan. AddaeAkono said: Why are groups pushed so heavily in Japan and South Korea?Short answer: Western music labels are more concerned about pushing solo acts like Taylor Swift, Beyonce, Drake, The Weeknd, etc because they are easy to manage. In fact most groups with the exception of K-pop bands don't really dominate the US charts like they use to back in the day. |
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Lucifrost said: BilboBaggins365 said: But we used to have boy bands in America too. Why did they die out if the demand is still here?Boy bands were dead and Korea came in and filled the void for all the obsessed fetishizing teenage girls. BilboBaggins365 said: The odd thing is that the west does have media catering to wide audiences, such as books. Why are studios here so reluctant to adapt these books? It seems almost any manga or novel can become an anime in Japan.If Western animation was catering to certain audiences as much as anime did (YA media, adult media, edgy content and yeah more sex appeal for both sexes) anime wouldn't be that popular in the West. For the first question no idea. You used to have stuff like NSYNC and the Backstreet Boys in the 90s then it died off with nothing to truly replace them. I don't know enough about pop music to really say. As for the book question well again animation wasn't really looked upon well. Even for popular novels I think most would rather see live action as it's taken more seriously. That might change as stuff like invincible, Castlevania, Arcane get more popularity but we have a ways to go before it catches up to anime. I mean even with anime rising in popularity it still has nothing on actual popular live action show in the West. |
AddaeAkono said: I have not seen Oshi no Ko. Idoly Pride explains that solo artists are no longer popular, but it doesn't explain why.Lucifrost said: I'm not sure if you seen the first episode of Oshi no Ko, but it was briefly explained why music groups such as idols are being pushed hard in Japan. Why are groups pushed so heavily in Japan and South Korea? |
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alshu said: It's because more people are adopting the japanese weaboo culture in the west, caused by the explosion of anime content this days. But i think it don't matter, cultures come and go since gilgamesh times.Adriannitro said: something like "FLCL", "Angels Egg", "Akira" or "Kill la Kill" it's too f*cking insane for normal American pepole, and it's great, I LOVE THIS. Those aren't that popular tho, more of a niche titles. What gets popular nowadays in the West are cringe feasts like Bocchi and Oshi No Ko, also edglord feasts like battles shounen and isekai. |
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Runasius said: you didn't even try to understand the argument or point. Plus, you are responding to every single perspn so you are clearly interested in proselytization, not debatebledsoe60 said: Well, Squid Game managed to reach a broader audience than most any anime has, so I wouldn't make any definitive statements without corresponding date Not really. I’d argue that dbz, attack on Titan, Ghibli, your name, and one piece are way more popular than squid game. Also while they aren’t more popular, Kaiji and liar game both are more well respected than squid game. |
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