Attack on Titan
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| Isayama should start working in his next manga asap. |
| I miss this chapter. Grade A comedy. |
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| agh yeah dammit... |
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MironBiron said: I have a question for the ones that wanted to see Eren complete The Rumbling. In no way am I a fan of AoT’s final chapters (I have my own stances regarding a possible logical conclusion to the story) but I was wondering: Why do people want to see Eren wipe out the entirety of mankind outside of Paradis so bad? I’m not talking about whether he lives or not. I want to see Eren survive this too. What I’m talking about is the fact that a lot of readers cannot seem to look past a conclusion that features Eren killing the entire world. What makes it so appealing? Why is this number 1 on the wish lists of so many ending-haters (of which I am a part myself)? Because it's a kill or be killed world. Quite literally, the cycle of violence can only end when one side is destroyed, that's the obvious truth of AoT and you can even see this in the ending: because Eren didn't complete The Rumbling, even though his friends in the immediate aftermath were seen as heroes, Paradis gets bombed to dust and they (likely) all die. Now I think it would be a basic instinct of most people, and a logical one, to want to protect yourself and those you love against strangers who want to harm them. If it's my family or your family, and one HAS to die, who wouldn't pick to protect their own family? Well, Eren tries to create a solution where everyone is happy and both sides live, but what happens? He gets the people of Paradis killed because he didn't kill the people on the outside. Just desserts I guess. |
| So I actually finished the Aot manga because I could no longer wait for the final episode which is surprising considering I've been an anime only for years now. Even though the ending could have gone perhaps a bit better at some points and maybe some stuff here and there that I disliked but it doesnt change the fact that almost everyone except Eren got a good sendoff. This series has been a really amazing one from start to finish and even the anime was such a wild ride when it first aired and I can already predict the polarizing opinions and discussions lol. But all in all everything leading upto the ending and even the entire series was honestly a masterpiece. Even if I didnt quite like the ending as much but still hats off to Isayama for actually giving us a bold ending and going against the norm of MC survives ending. I really am curious about whether he will return for a sequel to this, Perhaps that boy at the end was a reincarnation of Eren? Who knows hahaha but quite honestly I'll give it a 10/10. Now to watch this in the anime and cry again. |
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| If this is the ending the author wanted sure but still felt like it needed a few extra chapters. |
| Apparently people hated this end. Mah, they could, but personnaly I think it's a good conclusion for this mythical series. Bye bye Eren ! |
| There wasn't really anything that bad about the ending. It was solid. I have no idea how this series gained a reputation for having a poor ending. Not everything needs to be pointed out. There isn't anything inherently wrong with the author leaving things up for interpretation, and it was a really interesting way to end the series actually. I liked it a lot and I think it's crazy that it was falsely advertised as being atrocious. |
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OmniScience5 said: The manga could have gone much longer answering plot points so it'll be easily understood. There is more to the world than just Marley and Paradise Island, there is that Asian clan, Mid-eastern race, the southern part of Paradise Island. Worldbuilding could have been one of the best we've seen. i agree, their world was rich and interesting. I couldn't care less about all these people, for me it focused too long in the conflict. Valyrian1124 said: Are they really talking about "who is going to marry Mikasa" now of all times? yeah, what a bunch of psychopaths eden and armon are! only thinking about their sake, never liked this trio of friends ๐ same with mikasa's confession in front of the survey corps massacre way back then. Pecado_Carnal said: I knew Connie's mother wouldn't stay like that forever. I did expect to see their reunion and an actual explanation for it. what i don't get is if it's a redundancy by Connie saying just mother i mean, why he doesn't mention his father and siblings too. welp, that's sad he lost a village! ๐คฃ VirginAmirul said: eren died/reincarnated into a bird without having pussy in his life, damn. happy ending! some said on this forum ๐ well I don't really know many manga with an ending so this is my first convoluted ending, gee talk about isa overdoing yama here ๐ Mikasa said: Berthold's arrival was a blessing in disguise, it lead to them having the Attack Titan i don't think so, it's more it ruined grishas plans. SoranoCloud said: I never felt his words were something meant to underline the significance of romantic love, but rather the advice for Grisha to move on from the loss he has experienced and to create a family er no.. owl basically is sayin to become an spy, that is to infiltrate in the walls society, and no one would suspect of his doings if he helps their community and if merry one the better then... owl is so cold ๐ฅถ but I guess it's because of his childhood trauma ๐ฑ |
Berry-VodkaMay 25, 2024 8:05 PM
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YASHXYZ said:
Don't know what to say, I mean being a total savage and badass, decided to flatten the whole world even did a mass genocide but then in last, crying just because he can't be with his girlfriend? Lmao
Let it be known that the protagonist of Shingeki no Kyojin felt worse about not fucking his step sister who spent 10 years chasing after him than he did about killing is own mother.Don't know what to say, I mean being a total savage and badass, decided to flatten the whole world even did a mass genocide but then in last, crying just because he can't be with his girlfriend? Lmao
| @Sapewloth hahaha, you made my day! ๐ twisted author gotta write. how do heck he decided in a sec to kill his mom to save berto xD friends before family huh? only Stalin thought like this ๐ฑ and cmon how is the bird just symbolic? it's obviously Eren too! no seagull would wrap you any day... ShayanP said: Loved that final image of Levi saluting on his lonesome. bullshit. they should just come back to life too ๐ because it seems the events on this story happens just because ๐ this any other thing, boo! ShayanP said: Also loved how poetic it got at the end there with Eren being personified as the bird — which has been a constant symbol throughout the series. that's just corny and a better end would be Mikasa getting shat over the head by the passing seagull and then she freaks out in the yard pulling out her hair, fanny noises and gestures because that is what creeps like her do ๐ญ Volterra_90 said: Let's not talk about how well Isayama treated women in this arc RIGHT! I always judge a story based on how women live there... Isayama has his problems... specially with moms lol el3mel said: Yeah it was all the hormones. yeah, i hate teens now ๐คฃ shingeki had a bunch of adults so I said, okay it's gonna be alright BUT guess not... fucking young uns screwing everything out. YueNaDe said: At this point I suspect, the reasons titans eat humans despite not needing is because Eren makes them to do. So the entire history can play out. So Dina's meal was to be Eren's mom so that Eren can get the motivation. yeah, but you know what it is the entire flaw in this story: they shat on Hanji's theories that the scouts sought restlessly ๐ but you know what? everyone who liked the ending just accepted that because the author changed to: it was fucking Eren traveling in time all this time ๐ Malioboro said: After killing Eren, Mikasa took his head and said to Armin that she wanted to give Eren's head a rest. i wonder if she picked up the body too there in Eldia? ๐คฃ imagine the state of and that's stench. SoranoCloud said: I never felt his words were something meant to underline the significance of romantic love, but rather the advice for Grisha to move on from the loss he has experienced and to create a family er no.. owl basically is sayin to become an spy, that is to infiltrate in the walls society, and no one would suspect of his doings if he helps their community and if merry one the better then... owl is so cold ๐ฅถ but I guess it's because of his childhood trauma ๐ฑ |
Berry-VodkaMay 25, 2024 8:13 PM
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| @SilverKamuy heh, now that i think about it there's a few mothers getting killed brutally in shingeki, author issues? xD except Connie's mom, nobody is saved ๐ญ shingeki world hates mothers day or smth lol Epiphany3 said: The slave loving the master is already an unbalanced power dynamic trope, but this is just sick. this is way worse than chivas 1-2-3 ๐คฃ hate both now... cherria said: i'm not fully against this ending, but it feels like there are at least 10 chapters missing in between. yes, me too. I want more manga panels, everything flows so amateurish ๐ Allystare said: At the end of the day, Isayama just didn't understand or care to understand what his fans wanted. exactly, at least toriyama and oda seems to know and delivers the story ๐ ReRakCakMag said: And how can Eren controlled Dina's titan to ignore Bertholt and kill his mom? yeah, i don't get it myself because at that time the story was just starting and... Isayama plays dirty, he tricked us. ๐คฎ by applying those rules of narrative you just can make anything up later, the distaste. Neil1998 said: Most of us have already theorised that the thing could be some sort of Parasite that attaches itself to a host in order to survive. It's just a spine nerve ffs. those theories ๐คฃ |
Berry-VodkaMay 25, 2024 7:42 PM
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OmniScience5 said:
The manga could have gone much longer answering plot points so it'll be easily understood.
There is more to the world than just Marley and Paradise Island, there is that Asian clan, Mid-eastern race, the southern part of Paradise Island.
Worldbuilding could have been one of the best we've seen.
The manga could have gone much longer answering plot points so it'll be easily understood.
There is more to the world than just Marley and Paradise Island, there is that Asian clan, Mid-eastern race, the southern part of Paradise Island.
Worldbuilding could have been one of the best we've seen.
i agree, their world was rich and interesting. I couldn't care less about all these people, for me it focused too long in the conflict.
Valyrian1124 said:
Are they really talking about "who is going to marry Mikasa" now of all times?
Are they really talking about "who is going to marry Mikasa" now of all times?
yeah, what a bunch of psychopaths eden and armon are! only thinking about their sake, never liked this trio of friends ๐ same with mikasa's confession in front of the survey corps massacre way back then.
Pecado_Carnal said:
I knew Connie's mother wouldn't stay like that forever. I did expect to see their reunion and an actual explanation for it.
I knew Connie's mother wouldn't stay like that forever. I did expect to see their reunion and an actual explanation for it.
what i don't get is if it's a redundancy by Connie saying just mother i mean, why he doesn't mention his father and siblings too. welp, that's sad he lost a village! ๐คฃ
VirginAmirul said:
eren died/reincarnated into a bird without having pussy in his life, damn.
eren died/reincarnated into a bird without having pussy in his life, damn.
happy ending! some said on this forum ๐
well I don't really know many manga with an ending so this is my first convoluted ending, gee talk about isa overdoing yama here ๐
Mikasa said:
Berthold's arrival was a blessing in disguise, it lead to them having the Attack Titan
Berthold's arrival was a blessing in disguise, it lead to them having the Attack Titan
i don't think so, it's more it ruined grishas plans.
SoranoCloud said:
I never felt his words were something meant to underline the significance of romantic love, but rather the advice for Grisha to move on from the loss he has experienced and to create a family
I never felt his words were something meant to underline the significance of romantic love, but rather the advice for Grisha to move on from the loss he has experienced and to create a family
er no.. owl basically is sayin to become an spy, that is to infiltrate in the walls society, and no one would suspect of his doings if he helps their community and if merry one the better then... owl is so cold ๐ฅถ but I guess it's because of his childhood trauma ๐ฑ
| @Berry-Vodka Bro really pinged me for a 3 year old forum post. |
JosephSaber40 said: Eren killing his mother makes her death, Eren's entire character arc nothing more than a joke what makes me think of what if op from the 3rd season reveals that Eren adult did it to his younger self BUT then, who killed adult Eren's mom? ๐ค yep, bad story short. JosephSaber40 said: Eren was forgiven by his friends and Armin for his crimes and the alliance mourned him!!! yeah, that irked me. he's not a character that should be remembered fondly like that... he hurt his friends and then killed himself xD! it's more, a nice development for these guys would be if they stop being friends with Eren because that's what happens irl, you just can't stand a messed up person like that. (the Japanese would agree tho ๐ they are the first ones to reject the odd ones) Dildry said: His character last or closing scene is sniffing the letter of Historia (who is already married) oh com'on, that someone is already married doesn't make them automatically uglyy! ๐คฃ he still can like her and be a friend for what it is... EnergizerBunny13 said: to make himself the common enemy of all humanity so his loved ones could be the heroes that didn't happen, so it didn't work, basically back to square one... what a waste of time. |
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Incredible masterful story overall, but fuck, I hate that Eren died without staying with Mikasa. I'm not happy with that, but it was great, even though it was hard to watch Eren be an anti-hero.
I'm left disappointed with it not being fully happy while leaving the rest unknown, but it was great nonetheless. 9/10.
Although, I guess maybe the being of Ymir's love, and Eren's decision through past and future is still somewhat unclear, assuming he saw various futures, and this was the best.
Arguably though, since he changed his original intended darker ending, maybe the last arc became flawed from the setup of the previous. Ymir and Eren's choices weren't clear enough to me with enough insight, I think.
... The extra pages make part of the ending more odd.
Mikasa has children with another man (which I'm not a fan of especially if it's Jean which seems to be), their city gets blown up, and a boy with a dog goes to that tree where Eren was buried...
Eren supposedly being a dove is weird and doesn't make sense either. Frustrating ending.
On second thought. I really don't like this ending. It's even sadder and disappointing. In the end, they got killed anyway.
As for Eren and Mikasa, I wish he talked to her as a Ghost instead of being a dove, or in that memory himself instead of just Armin, at least.
I'm left disappointed with it not being fully happy while leaving the rest unknown, but it was great nonetheless. 9/10.
Although, I guess maybe the being of Ymir's love, and Eren's decision through past and future is still somewhat unclear, assuming he saw various futures, and this was the best.
Arguably though, since he changed his original intended darker ending, maybe the last arc became flawed from the setup of the previous. Ymir and Eren's choices weren't clear enough to me with enough insight, I think.
... The extra pages make part of the ending more odd.
Mikasa has children with another man (which I'm not a fan of especially if it's Jean which seems to be), their city gets blown up, and a boy with a dog goes to that tree where Eren was buried...
Eren supposedly being a dove is weird and doesn't make sense either. Frustrating ending.
On second thought. I really don't like this ending. It's even sadder and disappointing. In the end, they got killed anyway.
As for Eren and Mikasa, I wish he talked to her as a Ghost instead of being a dove, or in that memory himself instead of just Armin, at least.
| After finally binging the final season of the anime to completion recently. It made me reflect better on how kinda bad the last arc is with a few flaws and several questionable things... From Eren not acting like himself. The whole disappointing and lacking ending itself of... ugh. Too much to repeat and elaborate from what I've already said here or on the anime. I should go back to this later to explain better for myself, but, basically... I originally rated the manga and the franchise as a whole 9/10. It could have been a 10 if the ending wasn't so "bad". But after thinking back on how really bad with too many annoying things and plot holes, etc. the last arc has... As incredible as it is before that... 8/10. |
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