| there are some kinds of anime.. there are anime 4 kids and there are anime 4teens and older people.. |
| That's stupid I would like him to say that to anime like death note and hellsing.. If he would be able to watch them without scaring the shit out of him self.....lol |
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Animefan1929 said: Of course anime isn't for kids. It also isn't for people above 21. Whoever is above that age and watches anime needs to get out more. I think -you- need to get out more. I'm guessing you're 21 or under, so where do you get off telling us that? ShadowbladeEdge said: timon9182 said: I don't understand why people keep bringing up Death Note, it would scare you if you 5, maybe, and only the shinigami and crazy faces at. Also a 10 year old could grasp it, though I doubt most would put forth the effort to. And you could show a 9-10 year old Hellsing, no problem. Though I'll meet you half way, they aren't "for" kids.That's stupid I would like him to say that to anime like death note and hellsing.. If he would be able to watch them without scaring the shit out of him self.....lol I think the problem with Death Note is that kids might come away with the impression that it's okay to kill, as long as you're killing "bad" people, or if you're killing innocents because you don't want to be caught. I mean, look at the number of self proclaimed "Kira fans". If teenage and college aged kids can't get the message, that doesn't bode well for a 10 year old. |
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| Tits are for kids too, I suppose that explains why anime has so many tits in it. |
| While not technically anime, currently I am a big fan of Hatsune Miku. At least I can go see her in concert. |
| Some anime are geared toward kids, but I can easily say not all anime are for kids. |
ShadowbladeEdge said: ArnoldK said: Teenagers are retarded though, with bodies full of hormones. The ending is clearly in contrast with that point of view, so unless you have a stupid kid, who couldn't grasp it after you explained it to him, you should be good. If you had such a kid I doubt you'd even get out of the gate with out boring him.I think the problem with Death Note is that kids might come away with the impression that it's okay to kill, as long as you're killing "bad" people, or if you're killing innocents because you don't want to be caught. I mean, look at the number of self proclaimed "Kira fans". If teenage and college aged kids can't get the message, that doesn't bode well for a 10 year old. (Death Note ending spoiler warning, just to be safe) Seriously, the number of individuals who actually think Kira was doing the right thing is kind of scary. |
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| I totally disagree with those who think anime series are just for kids. Most of the time these are people who have never watched anime. There are so many genres that everyone can be satisfied. Adults,kids,adventure lovers,romance lovers,science fiction lovers etc... Especially in Greece most people tent to judge anime as childish due to series as pokemon,digimon etc that are pretty famous here. Well,even my best friend turned to a total anime geek when one day we watched death note together.2 years have passed since then and she even organizes anime/j-rock events now :P So I suggest to everyone who judges without knowing to search a little before deciding whether all anime are childish or not. |
ArnoldK said: Seriously, the number of individuals who actually think Kira was doing the right thing is kind of scary. He's an anti-hero. His intentions were pure but his execution was wrong. Of course it is wrong to kill, but pretty much everyone would agree that the world would be a better place without crime. Kira is a kind of salvation character and a lot of people can relate their thoughts to him. It's not surprising how many people think he was doing the right thing. ShadowbladeEdge said: timon9182 said: I don't understand why people keep bringing up Death Note, it would scare you if you 5, maybe, and only the shinigami and crazy faces at. Also a 10 year old could grasp it, though I doubt most would put forth the effort to. And you could show a 9-10 year old Hellsing, no problem. Though I'll meet you half way, they aren't "for" kids.That's stupid I would like him to say that to anime like death note and hellsing.. If he would be able to watch them without scaring the shit out of him self.....lol I strongly disagree that a ten year old could grasp Death Note. Yes, they may be able to follow the story, though I assume they will get lost a few times along the way. However, theres more to Death Note than meets the eye. It contains a lot of questions of morality - something ten year old children aren't quite to grasps with yet. For the most part all of the questions in Death Note are left up to the viewers interpretation as well. Ten year olds watch shows for entertainment, not to think. Their minds aren't fully developed and so they do not have the thought process to pick up on, work out, and understand the questions Death Note presents. |
ToukaNov 13, 2009 4:17 AM
Animefan1929 said: Of course anime isn't for kids. It also isn't for people above 21. Whoever is above that age and watches anime needs to get out more. So you're saying anime is for teens basically. Anyway, so what if a person is above 21 and watches anime? As long as they're not addicted to the point that they forget basic everyday routines like eating and bathing, then that's fine. |
| No, disney is for kids. Anime is for people who are sik and tired of the crap of the shows airing now, reality series (big brother, all the mtv crap, australian idol). The thing about reality shows are that we dont needa watch it on tv since its "reality" funny enough. People watch tv to see stuff that you dont see in real life, like TTGL for example. |
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NightRaven said: No, disney is for kids. NO TRIX ARE FOR KIDS |
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NightRaven said: No, disney is for kids. I don't think Disney is for kinds either.If you watch some disney cartoons again I am sure you will find hidden meanings that you couldn't comprehend as a child =] -just my opinion though- below I pasted something interesting that I found on wikipedia.Although it refers to something really specific ,it is an example of what I believe. it is a big paragraph |
| if he says anime's for kids then he hasn't seen elven lied yet.....or higurashi.....or hellsing...or berserk.... |
| No big worries, to prove him wrong, just download some hentai and show him/her = ) He/she shouldn't have ny reactions after watching it since it's for kids Right? XD Honestly, wat a dumbass... |
JaberlenJan 1, 2010 2:06 AM
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| Anime for kids my arse, go buy them some hentai, afterall its just cartoons right? |
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DarK_LiGhT said: Anime for kids my arse, go buy them some hentai, afterall its just cartoons right? ANIME IS NOT CARTOONS !! - by every hardcore anime fans |
| If anything anime is targeted more at teens and adult then they are for little kids, all in all this is a dumb question. |
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| I cant think of a single anime aimed solely at adults. Even hentai and stuff supposedly with an age limit is aimed at teens. Even the most cerebral stuff that I love like GitS isn't aimed at adults. I think there are business manga aimed at, well, business men, but good luck finding them animated, or subbed anyway. |
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Beatnik said: I cant think of a single anime aimed solely at adults. Even hentai and stuff supposedly with an age limit is aimed at teens. Even the most cerebral stuff that I love like GitS isn't aimed at adults. Neither can I. Kids think that it's aimed at adults just because it containts gore or sexual content, that's probably why Elfen Lied is used as an example, but that's just silly. |
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Beatnik said: I cant think of a single anime aimed solely at adults. Even hentai and stuff supposedly with an age limit is aimed at teens. Even the most cerebral stuff that I love like GitS isn't aimed at adults. What makes you think it's not aimed at adults? Just because non-adults watch it? The "Sanctuary" anime. Basically a straight yakuza film/political thriller in anime form. Also most late night anime is made with the idea of targeting post-high school otaku (which is why it's on so late). |
ArnoldKJan 1, 2010 6:34 AM
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hope8nzc said: I know that many adults will say that anime is for kinds, anime or not it is just a cartoon. Personally I watch it cause I like it, I don't care what other people think, and just as we have anime that are made especially for kids we also have movies and TV shows that are doing the same thing only in a so call reality. Everything has two sides, not every plot is for kids you can find a really good anime out there. P.S I don't think I will be watching it forever though :) It's ironic that they will say that anime is for kids but these same people will then go watch SouthPark or Family Guy or some of the shows on Adult Swim. These are much worse than anime in the way of artwork and content. |
Dodecahedron-O24Jan 1, 2010 2:48 PM
| What if the Hokey Pokey is what it is all about? |
| Besides the obvious fact that your friend is an ignorant, I think (I hope I can explain with my crappy english) that modern anime, since it is a "new" form of media and hence "older adults" (people in 40s for example) don't happen to consider it (what 40 years old businessman would start watching anime just for curiosity?), and since animation has been for a long time targeted at kids, we have some kind of "cultural conviction" that makes people think that animation is strictly bound to being something targeted to kids, regardless of the contents. In other words, I suspect that it's not true that older adults don't watch any anime at all because it's for kids, but that it is for kids because older adults don't watch it at all. I hope what I wrote doesn't sound silly, I tried to guess what's the origin of this "cultural conviction"... because it is one, otherwise it would be impossible that so many people thought anime is for kids only, knowing nothing or almost nothing about it. |
| Theres different animes for different age groups. Flagging all anime as just cartoons for kids is just ignorant people talking about things they know nothing of. If some1 thinks all anime is for kids have them watch Shigurui for example, then let them talk. |
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| There's a difference between adults watching anime, and anime being aimed at their demographic. Understand this please. |
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| Then let them 7 year old kiddo's watch Higurashi no Naku Koro ni. :D |
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| There's some anime that's directed towards the kid age. For example, Shugo Chara. That's surely more based for the younger audience, instead of somebody per se over the age of 20. Then there's anime like Elfen Lied which is obviously for somebody with the mentality to be able to handle it. What I'm trying to say is that there are different anime for different age groups. It definitely isn't only for kids, for sure. :) |
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wnr said: That's not totally true. Animation in the US geared towards kiids is also relatively new. Probably in the late 60s did this change occur.Besides the obvious fact that your friend is an ignorant, I think (I hope I can explain with my crappy english) that modern anime, since it is a "new" form of media and hence "older adults" (people in 40s for example) don't happen to consider it (what 40 years old businessman would start watching anime just for curiosity?), and since animation has been for a long time targeted at kids, we have some kind of "cultural conviction" that makes people think that animation is strictly bound to being something targeted to kids, regardless of the contents. In other words, I suspect that it's not true that older adults don't watch any anime at all because it's for kids, but that it is for kids because older adults don't watch it at all. I hope what I wrote doesn't sound silly, I tried to guess what's the origin of this "cultural conviction"... because it is one, otherwise it would be impossible that so many people thought anime is for kids only, knowing nothing or almost nothing about it. If you were to watch the old Warner brother, Popeye, etc. of the World War and post World War era those animations were very adult in thier content. Adult content using the heavy hand of sarcasm, irony, stereotypes and caracatures. You wouldn't see SpongeBob making fun of Nazism than what Bugs Bunny did. |
| What if the Hokey Pokey is what it is all about? |
sbyrstall said: wnr said: That's not totally true. Animation in the US geared towards kiids is also relatively new. Probably in the late 60s did this change occur.Besides the obvious fact that your friend is an ignorant, I think (I hope I can explain with my crappy english) that modern anime, since it is a "new" form of media and hence "older adults" (people in 40s for example) don't happen to consider it (what 40 years old businessman would start watching anime just for curiosity?), and since animation has been for a long time targeted at kids, we have some kind of "cultural conviction" that makes people think that animation is strictly bound to being something targeted to kids, regardless of the contents. In other words, I suspect that it's not true that older adults don't watch any anime at all because it's for kids, but that it is for kids because older adults don't watch it at all. I hope what I wrote doesn't sound silly, I tried to guess what's the origin of this "cultural conviction"... because it is one, otherwise it would be impossible that so many people thought anime is for kids only, knowing nothing or almost nothing about it. Well, around 40 years passed from the late 60s, anime (the modern one) is much newer... I know the early black and white anime were made around the 70s, but that's neither what I was considering in my argument, because it's not something that can have a part in any "cultural convictions" (I don't know which word to use, but I think the meaning it's clear), as it isn't known by many people... |
Beatnik said: There's a difference between adults watching anime, and anime being aimed at their demographic. Understand this please. First of all, what age do you consider to be adult? Most parts of the world consider 18+ to be adult, so basically anything rated 18+ is aimed at adults.... You make it sound as if adult is something 30+ |
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| There's also a 'young adults' demographic, so maybe that's about right. |
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| True, a lot of anime are targeted at 'young adults', and there probably aren't any targeted specifically at 'older adults', i agree with that, but the point here is that by far not all anime is for kids. Young adults or whatever are still not kids. Another point is that say if a 40-year-old person watches anime that are generally for teens does not mean that certain anime is for adults, this has been mentioned several times. But then if a 13-year-old watches some 18+ does not mean that 18+ anime are aimed at kids, which is what some people in earlier posts think, talking about teens watching hentai and such. |
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| yes, anime is just 4kids. |
| Lol, ofcourse not. Anime is for everyone, just like eating food, playing computer games, etc, although some Anime might be targeted for kids while some targets more mature viewers. |
Red_Comet said: We can't let 4kids have anime. They ruin them and make them 4kiddies.yes, anime is just 4kids. Moonfrost said: Very true. Just look how the Wii system was designed for kids and teens and now we see senior citizens use them as part of a physical therapy program.Lol, ofcourse not. Anime is for everyone, just like eating food, playing computer games, etc, although some Anime might be targeted for kids while some targets more mature viewers. |
| What if the Hokey Pokey is what it is all about? |
| Anime is a very wide filed of different genres. Some fit youngsters, some fit adults. Same with movies, books, music and etc. |
| For those who doesn't know much about anime has this opinion...it's just a one-sided opinion ...and yes, anime comes in a very wide field of different genres as said above. |
seijurojushi said: Beatnik said: There's a difference between adults watching anime, and anime being aimed at their demographic. Understand this please. First of all, what age do you consider to be adult? Most parts of the world consider 18+ to be adult, so basically anything rated 18+ is aimed at adults.... You make it sound as if adult is something 30+ Yes, in fact seinen and josei anime are aimed specifically at adults in their 20s. |
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| I don't think a "older adult" has necessarily has to be more mature than a "younger adult"; indeed, considering the cultural changes that have happened since the Internet was invented, I tend to think the opposite. Little OT: it seems it's difficult to put together a conversation in a forum with so many users, like 70% of posts are people just answering to the thread question XD |
KyuuA4 said: SOME series are indeed for children. ^ This. Different anime targets different age groups. Welcome to the NHK, Elfen Lied, Hellsing, and other such animes are not for children. |
| I understand why some people might think that but they are totally wrong of course. Ive got some friends who say anime is stupid even they didnt even watch a good series. Watch monster or berserk and they will change their mind. Damn it would be cool if those shows were on the Dutch television. |
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ArnoldK said: Yes, in fact seinen and josei anime are aimed specifically at adults in their 20s. What about adults in their 30s and above? Do you know any anime targeting them? wnr said: I don't think a "older adult" has necessarily has to be more mature than a "younger adult"; indeed, considering the cultural changes that have happened since the Internet was invented, I tend to think the opposite. Every generation that grows up and enters adulthood is at least a bit different. And now cultural changes occur quickly with all the technology like the internet. Adult in their 20s, 30s or maybe even 40s playing video games or reading comic books is not something out of this world, it's quite normal. But there's also this fact that we just don't want to be old, youth is glorified and we want to stay young as long as we can. And we're generally allowed to do that by society, not to mention that marketing and mass media encourage that. |
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wnr said: I don't think a "older adult" has necessarily has to be more mature than a "younger adult"; indeed, considering the cultural changes that have happened since the Internet was invented, I tend to think the opposite. Adult in their 20s, 30s or maybe even 40s playing video games or reading comic books is not something out of this world, it's quite normal. In fact, that's what I am saying, I don't see why some users are considering "younger adults" and "older adults" so differently; of course they are, but not if we are simply discussing about being mature enough watching anime or not. |
| Nah, It depends. Some anime are intended for kids (Doraemon, Sergeant Keroro) while there are anime who targets adults (Gantz, Elfen Lied, Umineko no Naku Koro ni) |
| yea i to have a friend who always says that its only for kids but he havent even seen one episode of any anime so they dont know what they are talking about... |
| is war only fought by middle aged men with weapons? we simply cannot generalize anime as targeted for kids as it is media that has the exact purpose as live action shows. it's just drawn not played by actors on stage or behind a camera. kids are more fond of seeing colorful characters on tv that doesn't necessarily have serious undertones. that's why they enjoy it because they do not know what the true nature of it for the most part. adults enjoy anime for the reason that some stories can be related to and that they are appreciate art to some extent. as we grow older we tend to grow out of things. just accept this fact; and you know that you'll eventually find anime shows silly. |
| Isn't this already a very old debate? The only people who says 'anime are for kids' are people who don't see the real meaning of it. Let them watch Elfen Lied or School Days for once and the'll shut up |
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