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Jul 19, 2013 9:43 PM
#1
So this is something that's been bothering me since Oda did the time-skip. Why was the only significant change for both Nami and Robin longer hair (oh and bigger boobs which im not complaining about :D). I mean most of the other strawhats either didn't change very much Luffy/Sanji/Chopper/Brook, or got drastic changes Zoro/Franky/Ussop. I know its pointless to complain, he's not going to go back on the changes. But they just look weird especially Robin, one of her best features was her hair. Now I sometimes confuse her with Boa Hancock and Nami went from 'cat burglar' to 'pirate hooker.' I mean I like fan service but now its kinda ridiculous. Anyways, just wondering if people liked them more now or before. |
Jul 19, 2013 11:52 PM
#2
not to the time skip yet, but as i watch this pre time skip content 1 phras ekeeps crossing my mind "man everyone but luffy and sanji look so much worse than they did here" But especially nami than anyone else' |
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Jul 19, 2013 11:53 PM
#3
Almost nothing so far has been actually good since the timeskip, everything except a couple of things are just average to crap quality. The hype for the new world was all wasted. Too bad. Oda is losing his touch and getting drunk by popularity like his fellow popular mangakas: Kubo, Kishi and Mashima. (in addition to Goshou, but he's like a veteran in being drunk on popularity, comparing him to those 4 is unfair) |
Candor123Jul 19, 2013 11:57 PM
Jul 19, 2013 11:54 PM
#4
after time skip they look great and cute. |
Jul 20, 2013 8:40 AM
#5
Candor said: Almost nothing so far has been actually good since the timeskip, everything except a couple of things are just average to crap quality. The hype for the new world was all wasted. Too bad. Oda is losing his touch and getting drunk by popularity like his fellow popular mangakas: Kubo, Kishi and Mashima. (in addition to Goshou, but he's like a veteran in being drunk on popularity, comparing him to those 4 is unfair) well, that's your opinion, you shouldn't state it as a fact so bluntly. I, for one, think that the New World is done great and have little complains about it whatsoever. As the story progresses, so to the characters and their environment, so it can't be expected to be in the same phase as 'paradise'. Also, Oda pulling forementioned characters from all sides makes it even more entertaining As to Robin and Nami, I like the new designs a bit better than the pre-skip... Nami is better to me, she seemed kinda childish too much in previous times, long hair is a nice addition to her progression as a character, also I thought I've noticed her having longer hair in for instance Shabaody Archipelago (first time) than in some previous arcs. I wouldn't mind Robin staying the same as pre-timeskip, but I'm ok with this change. Suppose it comes down to my personal tastes |
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Jul 20, 2013 9:45 AM
#6
The fishman island arc was a huge disappointment. The manga's been on track since. |
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Jul 20, 2013 9:48 AM
#7
I dont know.. hmm.. nami is better after the time-skip and robin too.. well at least they are not getting that old :p at least they are still tight :p |
Jul 20, 2013 5:43 PM
#8
Candor said: Almost nothing so far has been actually good since the timeskip, everything except a couple of things are just average to crap quality. The hype for the new world was all wasted. Too bad. Oda is losing his touch and getting drunk by popularity like his fellow popular mangakas: Kubo, Kishi and Mashima. (in addition to Goshou, but he's like a veteran in being drunk on popularity, comparing him to those 4 is unfair) I agree that Fishman Island was a big let down. Punk Hazard was okay, longer than it should have been. Dressrosa on the other hand has had me at the edge of my seat the whole time. I love this new arc, its got my favorite Warlord and some really cool characters and new area (love the Spain theme that Oda used for this one). I wont rate it just yet but I think Dressrosa will be the best thing since Sabody, at least so far its been pretty interesting. |
Aug 1, 2013 11:57 AM
#9
so it's a topic about robin and nami and their looks before and after timeskip, so why are people talking about a "quality drop" after the time skip? ........ They look better after the time skip for sure imo :) |
Does anyone else need a doctor to confirm that someone without a head is dead? |
Aug 1, 2013 12:05 PM
#10
jimbob1141 said: so it's a topic about robin and nami and their looks before and after timeskip, so why are people talking about a "quality drop" after the time skip? ........ Candor ![]() |
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Aug 1, 2013 12:44 PM
#11
IntroverTurtle said: jimbob1141 said: so it's a topic about robin and nami and their looks before and after timeskip, so why are people talking about a "quality drop" after the time skip? ........ Candor ![]() But what i'm saying is the topic isn't about that subject at all :P given i can't see your image so i don't if you are messing or not :D |
Does anyone else need a doctor to confirm that someone without a head is dead? |
Aug 1, 2013 12:48 PM
#12
jimbob1141 said: It's the alien guy with his hands up. It's Candor that brought up how One Piece is currently doing and got people quoting him talking about it, he does it in a lot of threads.IntroverTurtle said: jimbob1141 said: so it's a topic about robin and nami and their looks before and after timeskip, so why are people talking about a "quality drop" after the time skip? ........ Candor ![]() But what i'm saying is the topic isn't about that subject at all :P given i can't see your image so i don't if you are messing or not :D |
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Aug 1, 2013 1:04 PM
#13
IntroverTurtle said: jimbob1141 said: It's the alien guy with his hands up. It's Candor that brought up how One Piece is currently doing and got people quoting him talking about it, he does it in a lot of threads.IntroverTurtle said: jimbob1141 said: so it's a topic about robin and nami and their looks before and after timeskip, so why are people talking about a "quality drop" after the time skip? ........ Candor ![]() But what i'm saying is the topic isn't about that subject at all :P given i can't see your image so i don't if you are messing or not :D ahhhhh i see now :P i looked up the definition of candor and thought that was what you meant, didn't realise someone was called that :P |
Does anyone else need a doctor to confirm that someone without a head is dead? |
Aug 1, 2013 1:13 PM
#14
IntroverTurtle said: Disappointment, my friend. That's why I keep nagging about it.jimbob1141 said: It's the alien guy with his hands up. It's Candor that brought up how One Piece is currently doing and got people quoting him talking about it, he does it in a lot of threads.IntroverTurtle said: jimbob1141 said: so it's a topic about robin and nami and their looks before and after timeskip, so why are people talking about a "quality drop" after the time skip? ........ Candor ![]() But what i'm saying is the topic isn't about that subject at all :P given i can't see your image so i don't if you are messing or not :D jimbob1141 said: :(IntroverTurtle said: jimbob1141 said: It's the alien guy with his hands up. It's Candor that brought up how One Piece is currently doing and got people quoting him talking about it, he does it in a lot of threads.IntroverTurtle said: jimbob1141 said: so it's a topic about robin and nami and their looks before and after timeskip, so why are people talking about a "quality drop" after the time skip? ........ Candor ![]() But what i'm saying is the topic isn't about that subject at all :P given i can't see your image so i don't if you are messing or not :D ahhhhh i see now :P i looked up the definition of candor and thought that was what you meant, didn't realise someone was called that :P |
Aug 1, 2013 2:23 PM
#15
Since the timeskip, Oda probably thought to make Nami more mature looking because pre time skip she looked a bit childish and most people didn't take her seriously and Robin looks better with longer hair |
Aug 1, 2013 2:27 PM
#16
Kvshi said: and making her topless fanservice bait is a improvement how?pre time skip she looked a bit childish and most people didn't take her seriously ir |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Aug 2, 2013 2:55 PM
#17
I think Robin looks great in the current arc, and not to be a buzz kill but I wish Nami would have some MORE clothes on. Honestly I preferred her pre-timeskip look, she still looked great and actually had some clothes on. Although I think Nami's awesome with long hair, but at least give her a shirt or something like that!!!! |
Aug 2, 2013 3:04 PM
#18
Meh... Robbin got messed up after the time skip. I like both Nami's. As a character i like Nami more too. Character's Like Robin( she is till hottie though)Frank and Brook are expendable. |
Aug 3, 2013 9:33 AM
#19
DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: Kvshi said: and making her topless fanservice bait is a improvement how?pre time skip she looked a bit childish and most people didn't take her seriously ir ^This, I honestly thought she was super sexy/cute before. Now its like they are trying to hard. She doesn't need to be topless to be sexy, she had her own charm just like Robin. |
Aug 3, 2013 2:57 PM
#20
elitsu said: Robin pretty much stayed the same. She still doesn't fight as much and is more in the background. I'm not complaining, but I would like for her to fight more. I don't mind how she dresses. It seems more happy and open than before and to me that means that she's finally over her past c: I agree with the hair thing though. I feel like Robin's personality has changed quite a bit since the time skip. She still says morbid/terrifying things occasionally, but she seems to be happier. Evident in her frequently smiling and showing of trust. |
Aug 14, 2013 11:12 PM
#21
elitsu said: If Nami is just a walking pair of boobs to you, then you're blind. Very blind. She's obviously developed into a more confident and brave person compared to before. She's stronger and fights along them more. She's a better navigator and she trusts the crew more (doesn't yell at them as much). But people can't see that because...boobs. Oh well. I couldn't have been more happy with Nami's development~ This. I couldn't agree more. It angers me every time people talk about her like she's some kind of whore. In regards to the topic, first I'd like to ask what do you think is going to change? Because the few changes that did occur in the crew make perfect sense... Zoro was constantly fighting (with swords) with/against the man who gave him his first scar, and getting a smaller one says something. Franky is a cyborg, so he's constantly improving his body, and Chopper's fighting style revolves his transformations, so it makes sense that those would change, and Luffy got his scar from Akainu. When it comes to Nami... she was in a completely peaceful village floating in the sky, learning about the weather... what do you expect to change? In regards to her lack of wearing a shirt it can mean many things. Nami, being who she is, would obviously hope to have a more flashy appearance after reuniting with her nakama after a rough two whole years. Among other things... being able not wear a shirt (which to me looks badass) when constantly sailing easily has it's benefits... one it's not nearly as hot, two she can work on a tan at all times, and three yes believe it or not she can show off her body, which she is clearly confident in. Among other things it can represent that she's now confident enough in her strength enough to not have to worry about being attacked by perverts and the like. Honestly... I don't hear people compaining when they see a girl in a bikini at the beach. It's not like she's walking around in a thong, that would be asking for rape to always fight in that. AND I don't know if you guys are aware... but Franky wears next to zero clothes whatsoever, and I don't see people complaining when Zoro takes off his shirt, or to the fact Luffy keeps his shirt open at all times. Yet simply because Nami is a female, who has tits... if she shows a bit of skin somehow that makes her a whore. Last thing in regards to that... I usually hate to point fingers, but it seems weird Uriel, for you to call Nami a "pirate hooker" when your signature has Revy in it (unless that's how you view her too). Lol sorry for going on a tangent, but the Nami hate always sets me off. SO, as to my opinion I honestly love every change to the crew... it really suits each of them imo. I can't really justify Robin's lack of physical changes like I did for Nami... but it's really unclear thus far what exactly Robin went through over the 2 years. She'll always be a lady of mystery, and her new look seems to compliment this. And besides all that, only Luffy, Zoro, and Franky has any obvious physical changes after the timeskip... and Chopper when he transforms. To |
HalibelTheEspadaAug 15, 2013 12:22 AM
Aug 15, 2013 12:35 PM
#22
^ We know women have tits dude, they're hard to miss, but Oda advertises them as if he's trying to attract a whole new fan base. Which works for him obviously. One Piece has never been as ecchi as it is currently. I remember pre-timeskip when Nami would go to all these clothing stores and buy some class, now it's as if she forgot how to dress. Dressing little to nothing is not classy at all. I'm obviously not complaining about seeing boobs in my face, but it's definitely lowered my impression of Nami. Not like it matters right. Pre-timeskip was the best. Paradise is the best One Piece can get, but I'm always hoping it'll get better. And it will! |
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Aug 15, 2013 2:29 PM
#23
Zorocia said: ^ We know women have tits dude, they're hard to miss, but Oda advertises them as if he's trying to attract a whole new fan base. Which works for him obviously. One Piece has never been as ecchi as it is currently. I remember pre-timeskip when Nami would go to all these clothing stores and buy some class, now it's as if she forgot how to dress. Dressing little to nothing is not classy at all. I'm obviously not complaining about seeing boobs in my face, but it's definitely lowered my impression of Nami. Not like it matters right. Pre-timeskip was the best. Paradise is the best One Piece can get, but I'm always hoping it'll get better. And it will! This, couldn't have said it better myself. My thoughts exactly, I'm a guy I love boobs as much as the next guy. But lately its gotten to the point where the females look trashy. One of the great things about One Piece was that the girls always dressed with some class. Nami looked really cute pre-timeskip and she never really wore anything too skimpy. Robin was extremely sexy without having to wear anything too skimpy. Classy > Ecchi outfits. |
Aug 15, 2013 7:52 PM
#24
Uriel_The_Fourth said: I'm a guy I love boobs as much as the next guy. But lately its gotten to the point where the females look trashy. One of the great things about One Piece was that the girls always dressed with some class. Nami looked really cute pre-timeskip and she never really wore anything too skimpy. Robin was extremely sexy without having to wear anything too skimpy. Classy > Ecchi outfits. I don't see how it's trashy to dress like that, I am not saying I don't find it attractive either... but she's worn no top in the past. (a.e all the way back in Skypiea). Regarding class: she's a pirate and a thief, she has always been the girl without "class" and has no problem doing what it takes to get what she wants. If you guys think she never wore skimpy outfits before then you haven't been paying attention. In every single outfit she's ever worn it's either skimpy down below or up top. When she isn't wearing jeans she never wears anything that covers even half of her thighs. Just look at her in Thriller Bark, Water 7 / Enies Lobby, Sabaody (post-timeskip), Jaya, Orange Town (very first appearance btw), Baratie, and more... mini-skirts galore. At least 3 times she's worn no top before the timeskip... Skypiea, Enies Lobby, and Arabasta. And she has NEVER been one to refrain from using her sex-appeal to get what she wanted... for instance when she stole the Going Merry from under Johnny and Yosaku's noses. Or the fact that she charges 100,000 beri for a man to see here naked. And let's not forget her wanted poster. Guys... don't be the next Paulie in group form, always complaining every time a girl shows some skin. Be like Usopp and Chopper at Thriller Bark... just bow and say "thank you". It's not like she's lost her pride or anything... shown by how angry / wary she was when Sanji got control of her body at Punk Hazard. If you REALLY want to complain just look at her outfits in the movies and fillers and other non-canon stuff. For a better list of her outfits: http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Nami/Gallery I can pretty much say all the the same things about Robin... and I would but I don't want to take up any more space with my rant. But here's her gallery in case you feel like claiming she never wore revealing outfits: http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Nico_Robin/Gallery Zorocia said: ^ We know women have tits dude, they're hard to miss, but Oda advertises them as if he's trying to attract a whole new fan base. Which works for him obviously. One Piece has never been as ecchi as it is currently. I remember pre-timeskip when Nami would go to all these clothing stores and buy some class, now it's as if she forgot how to dress. Dressing little to nothing is not classy at all. I'm obviously not complaining about seeing boobs in my face, but it's definitely lowered my impression of Nami. Not like it matters right. I have never once seen where One Piece has used fan-service as a selling point. For one I happen to watch a ton of fanservicey shit, so I can tell you that's one of the few genres that One Piece is not. And apparently now the fact Nami is wearing no top (again) and Robin is wearing a really short dress (*cough* Water 7 *cough*), this is the "breaking point" for One Piece. As far as I can tell the most ecchi and perverted scene in all of One Piece was at Thriller Bark when Absalom nearly raped Nami... among other things he did. The only other "fan-service" since the time-skip is Fishman Island... and if there's any question why that was there I don't know what to tell you. And yes she HAS always loved buying new clothes and the like... but even back in Loguetown when it introduced this feature in her, never once were they ladylike clothes that she bought... the most ladylike thing she ever wore was when she was being forced to almost marry Absalom. Again she's a pirate... do you really expect her to run around fighting in a big, flowing dress? |
HalibelTheEspadaAug 16, 2013 1:04 AM
Aug 16, 2013 12:56 AM
#25
I don't know why I'm trying to argue. Let her wear nothing. Hell, the less the better. Come to think of it, Franky was the guy running around town wearing absolutely nothing at one point, no reason to argue the opposite. By the way, class isn't defined by a person's history. Simply chalking her up as a thief and a pirate, it doesn't roll that way. You see a chick walking past you looking hot as hell, you can tell she's hot by the way she looks, she's not instantly unattractive because she worked at McDonald's or maybe robbed a bank. Despite Nami being a thief, she never let that destroy her image. I'm telling you, the editors said to Oda: E: "Make the boobs bigger man, it'll up production value." O: "I dunno dude, stop smoking that shit and help me out with the story" E: "No way man, this story pretty much writes itself at this point... *coughcoughcough*" O: "Whatever you say bro. Anything larger than DDD cup?" |
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Aug 16, 2013 1:26 AM
#26
Zorocia said: I don't know why I'm trying to argue. Let her wear nothing. Hell, the less the better. Come to think of it, Franky was the guy running around town wearing absolutely nothing at one point, no reason to argue the opposite. By the way, class isn't defined by a person's history. Simply chalking her up as a thief and a pirate, it doesn't roll that way. You see a chick walking past you looking hot as hell, you can tell she's hot by the way she looks, she's not instantly unattractive because she worked at McDonald's or maybe robbed a bank. Despite Nami being a thief, she never let that destroy her image. I'm telling you, the editors said to Oda: E: "Make the boobs bigger man, it'll up production value." O: "I dunno dude, stop smoking that shit and help me out with the story" E: "No way man, this story pretty much writes itself at this point... *coughcoughcough*" O: "Whatever you say bro. Anything larger than DDD cup?" I know that there's more to her than simply thief and pirate. Yes these are obviously just titles... my point there was simply that you guys said she has no class now. But I'm saying she never had the "class" you guys are talking about. Her personality is her classiest feature, which has done nothing if not mellowed and become more confident slightly... but it's still basically the exact same. And so far I've only been talking about her outfit. What I'm arguing here is only that I don't think the way she dresses makes her "trashy" or "slutty"... she's just open, and confident, and obviously not ashamed of her body. If you see a girl in the gym, or running down the street in a sports bra... would you automatically assume "whore"? To me that's just prejudiced... because as you just agreed Franky is easily the worst when it comes to clothes. The only time he's EVER worn pants was in Strong World, and whatever you want to call that in Film Z. There's a reason Franky is referred to as the "pervert" in the crew. But I guess I'll have to settle for that... if you can call Franky a pervert then I guess I can accept that you think the same of Nami or Robin. But I do think that it's pretty insulting to call anyone a slut, whore, etc... especially when they've done nothing but show off their body... and to me anyone who does so is the real pervert for not being able to see around such a minor thing. I'm not saying that I want everyone to be nudists... but neither Nami nor Robin is anywhere close. There's no point in arguing the breast-size increase debate... that's always been an argument as long as I remember. The only thing I'll say on that topic is: how I see it, her breasts only really increased in size compared to her original appearance. After around Arlong Park I think it was just him developing his art-style the way he intended. I only thought they looked retardedly huge in Sabaody (pre time-skip)... and mainly only in the anime version. |
HalibelTheEspadaAug 16, 2013 1:33 AM
Aug 16, 2013 1:58 AM
#27
We're all perverts here, lol let's be honest, perversion isn't anything to be ashamed of on the internet, or in real life nowadays, there are obviously limits though. There's definitely some truth to the artistic curve Oda took with all his characters, I do love how great he's able to draw complex-looking characters as simply as he does his main characters. And the anime had to undergo some adjustments as well, it's only natural that Nami and Robin have rounder and more symmetrical shapes than they did way back in 2000. The evolution of breasts in One Piece is just as legendary as the story. Ah whatever, I guess it's all relative to the many eyes of young shounen. No one can call Nami a slut or a whore, but even whore's have uniforms... just some food for thought. I always love some of the explanations though, lol. The boob boob fruit for one. And that Nami carries the Will of DD. What a community. |
ZorociaAug 16, 2013 2:10 AM
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Aug 16, 2013 4:46 PM
#28
Zorocia said: We're all perverts here, lol let's be honest, perversion isn't anything to be ashamed of on the internet, or in real life nowadays, there are obviously limits though. There's definitely some truth to the artistic curve Oda took with all his characters, I do love how great he's able to draw complex-looking characters as simply as he does his main characters. And the anime had to undergo some adjustments as well, it's only natural that Nami and Robin have rounder and more symmetrical shapes than they did way back in 2000. The evolution of breasts in One Piece is just as legendary as the story. Ah whatever, I guess it's all relative to the many eyes of young shounen. No one can call Nami a slut or a whore, but even whore's have uniforms... just some food for thought. I always love some of the explanations though, lol. The boob boob fruit for one. And that Nami carries the Will of DD. What a community. This is mostly all true... but to me (and there's obviously no sense in debating opinions) when I imagine a whore in terms of dress style I think of something closer to Sadi-chan or Ivankov. But people can call her what they want though, however I measure a person in their actions, not by what they wear. Until she starts sucking dick for cash (or free) I don't consider her a whore. |
HalibelTheEspadaAug 16, 2013 4:50 PM
Aug 17, 2013 11:27 AM
#30
Looks alone: Before the time-skip I will never get over 'before the time-skip Robin'. |
Aug 17, 2013 12:10 PM
#31
Aug 19, 2013 1:43 AM
#32
Robin's hair was way better before the timeskip, and I can't get past how overly sexualized Nami's become, so to me both characters regressed visually. Personality-wise though, they've improved. |
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Aug 23, 2013 6:02 PM
#35
So much Nami hate, I, for one, love how she looks after the timeskip, and Robin too, she looks much softer as opposed to her guarded demeanor and sharp features before the skip. The only thing I dislike about the appearances of characters post timeskip is Franky, he just looks downright ridiculous. The one redeeming factor is the comedy surrounding him when he shows off his features. |
Aug 25, 2013 3:40 PM
#36
DoomCraft said: Robin's hair was way better before the timeskip, and I can't get past how overly sexualized Nami's become, so to me both characters regressed visually. Personality-wise though, they've improved. I agree on the visual part but personality I think Nami is the same or slightly worse. |
Aug 26, 2013 1:17 PM
#37
Uriel_The_Fourth said: Zorocia said: ^ We know women have tits dude, they're hard to miss, but Oda advertises them as if he's trying to attract a whole new fan base. Which works for him obviously. One Piece has never been as ecchi as it is currently. I remember pre-timeskip when Nami would go to all these clothing stores and buy some class, now it's as if she forgot how to dress. Dressing little to nothing is not classy at all. I'm obviously not complaining about seeing boobs in my face, but it's definitely lowered my impression of Nami. Not like it matters right. Pre-timeskip was the best. Paradise is the best One Piece can get, but I'm always hoping it'll get better. And it will! This, couldn't have said it better myself. My thoughts exactly, I'm a guy I love boobs as much as the next guy. But lately its gotten to the point where the females look trashy. One of the great things about One Piece was that the girls always dressed with some class. Nami looked really cute pre-timeskip and she never really wore anything too skimpy. Robin was extremely sexy without having to wear anything too skimpy. Classy > Ecchi outfits. Lol, I don't see much change in Robin's outfits, and I don't see how she was 'classy' before timeskip lol...when we see her first time outside Whiskey peak and till Alabasta with that outfit... I must admit though I loved the hairstyle, but I love it now too, and dressing hasn't really changed Nami never wore anything too skimpy? Enies Lobby, Water 7, Thriller Bark, almost every arc when she had to fight... the more famous they were, the less clothes Nami wore...you can't say she became like this after the timeskip, it was a slow progression towards it, it didn't happen just like that, after 2 years - it just culminated now into this. Boobs came with the art :D the better the art, the larger the boobs, atleast so it seems to me. (not saying boobs determine good art, just saying Nami's boobs improved as art improved) Too much discussion about this. Anyway, I like how they ended up perfectly |
This world is mine. I think this world may even just be a long, long dream I'm watching. You guys may just be illusions, and it can't be proven whether or not you really exist either. In other words, this world was created with me at the center. So what will happen if I die? I don't know. My imagination isn't very creative; I just can't imagine myself dying. In other words, there is no way this world can completely disappear. But if I die, then everyone will disappear. I am the only one in this world who won't disappear. The rest are just people I see as if in a dream. -Claire Stanfield, Baccano! |
Aug 26, 2013 3:56 PM
#38
kiDnameDSkia said: Finally, someone who agrees with me! x0Uriel_The_Fourth said: Zorocia said: ^ We know women have tits dude, they're hard to miss, but Oda advertises them as if he's trying to attract a whole new fan base. Which works for him obviously. One Piece has never been as ecchi as it is currently. I remember pre-timeskip when Nami would go to all these clothing stores and buy some class, now it's as if she forgot how to dress. Dressing little to nothing is not classy at all. I'm obviously not complaining about seeing boobs in my face, but it's definitely lowered my impression of Nami. Not like it matters right. Pre-timeskip was the best. Paradise is the best One Piece can get, but I'm always hoping it'll get better. And it will! This, couldn't have said it better myself. My thoughts exactly, I'm a guy I love boobs as much as the next guy. But lately its gotten to the point where the females look trashy. One of the great things about One Piece was that the girls always dressed with some class. Nami looked really cute pre-timeskip and she never really wore anything too skimpy. Robin was extremely sexy without having to wear anything too skimpy. Classy > Ecchi outfits. Lol, I don't see much change in Robin's outfits, and I don't see how she was 'classy' before timeskip lol...when we see her first time outside Whiskey peak and till Alabasta with that outfit... I must admit though I loved the hairstyle, but I love it now too, and dressing hasn't really changed Nami never wore anything too skimpy? Enies Lobby, Water 7, Thriller Bark, almost every arc when she had to fight... the more famous they were, the less clothes Nami wore...you can't say she became like this after the timeskip, it was a slow progression towards it, it didn't happen just like that, after 2 years - it just culminated now into this. Boobs came with the art :D the better the art, the larger the boobs, atleast so it seems to me. (not saying boobs determine good art, just saying Nami's boobs improved as art improved) Too much discussion about this. Anyway, I like how they ended up perfectly |
Mar 8, 2014 5:53 PM
#39
There's just something that feels off about how they look after the time skip. Don't know if it's their breasts being way too big (or at least it seems like it in some scenes), nami barely wearing any clothes all the time making her look somewhat slutty, or robin's new hairstyle with the sunglasses. Currently re-watching One Piece and definitely think Nami looked better before. |
Mar 12, 2014 3:19 AM
#41
Before time skip for me. Their new look is blatant fan service, even if I am a man I can't understand how people can like these enormous breats, they look stupid and in real life they would mean serious back pain for these poor girls. But as long as the story is great I don't really care that much. |
Mar 12, 2014 3:52 AM
#42
Knowing Nami as a character and her context, the last thing I'm concerned about is her bikini outfit. It's not that this is anything new in the series. Nami looked "classy"? Oh yeah, I guess her random bikini in Skypiea, the convenient striptease moment during her fight in Alabasta, her clothes in Enies Lobby and etc. were all very classy. She wears revealing clothes 95% of the time and that is an essential part of her character. Is there a fanservice purpose that trascends her? Indeed. But she's still in character. Let's take the Umi Ressha scene where she changes her clothes in front of the dockers. She doesn't care and is comfortable with these clothes, so of course she's going to keep wearing them. I would rather care about the role and specially on fights. There has been a long while since I don't see a proper Nami fight, though, and I would totally love to. Same with Robin though she's been suffering this for longer. They have some interesting powers and I feel that they are being wasted. |
Mar 12, 2014 8:49 AM
#43
After time skip :).. Appearance didn't bather me that much as long as Nami remains Nami and so as Robin .. |
Mar 13, 2015 9:56 AM
#44
I prefer before timeskip because now their bodies have become so distracting (my opinion) that people can't concentrate on the deal. I dont know, at least that is how it works for me. You say, they wear the same kind of stuff but we all now they don't have the same body. And no one can say Nami or Robin look the same as before. They obviously changed, maybe they had to, but they were more beautiful before, no one can deny that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLwXEN4R9Eg ---- look how great she looks here. just beautiful. maybe i'm wrong but it gives me the feeling like they are out of their characters. and it's not their clothes what bothers me, or it's not only their boobs or whatever, their faces changed too. Remember Robin had tanned skin? Now maybe you'll say "they got older". Yes they did but what we're arguing here is "were they better before or now" and my opinion is "before". They didn't need to change so much if you ask me. And Nami and Robin are not the only ones changed. Luffy's new look bothers me too. and i respect your opinions, please you respect mine. and sorry for my weak English. ps: and i should say i havent reach the up-to-date episodes. |
SezichanMar 13, 2015 10:06 AM
Mar 18, 2015 9:32 PM
#45
jal90 said: I would rather care about the role and specially on fights. There has been a long while since I don't see a proper Nami fight, though, and I would totally love to. Same with Robin though she's been suffering this for longer. They have some interesting powers and I feel that they are being wasted. Same. I came here to post the same thing, basically. I couldn't care less about their looks. What is worrying is how they haven't had a proper fight in a very long time. Oda kicked ass with his female characters pre-timeskip. Now? Not so much. I don't understand what's happening with that. Makes me wonder if there's been some editorial tampering. |
Jul 30, 2015 6:56 PM
#46
If we're talking about clothes, Nami has always worn a mini skirt. Usually it was paired with a tank top or a long sleeved shirt. Her first "skimpy" out fit was on little Garden when her shirt burned off, yet "mysteriously" everyone else's clothes in the fire were lightly singed. Her second "skimpy" was the dancing dress in Alabasta, which were traditional women dancing clothes in that country. her third was on "skypiea" with the swimsuit top. Fourth was her mini-skirt and swimsuit outfit on the Train in water 7. She wore blouses, T-shirts, button ups, jeans, tons of mini skirts, capris, a wide variety of clothing that mostly covered everything except for the bikini tops. Post-time skip out fits: Bikini tops, bikini tops, bikini tops that barely fit. Her boobs are always popping out at the bottom and the sides, very different than her pre-time skip bikini tops. With this she wears jeans or barely there shorts. her jeans are very low. If she didn't get a Brazilian, I'm sure we would see hair. She does wear a mostly covering dress at the beginning of punk hazard and a top and bottom that look like pajama barely there top and bottom. Ironically, the only time she is fully covered is when Sanji is possessing her body, though it could be debated that was because it was freezing outside. What I find interesting is that Nami is angry at Sanji for peeking inside the coat when he's only looking at what everyone can see without the coat and that is her normal outfit. In my opinion she used to have classier and more tasteful clothing and a wider variety. Blouses, button ups, dresses, jean jackets, etc. She also wore clothes that fit and weren't too small for her. Now, I recognize people, change. I've changed my clothing style over the years too. I just feel like Nami has gotten rid of half her closet and is trying to fit into clothes she wore before her body mysteriously transformed and grew out of proportion. Robin, her outfits haven't changed that much except she used to wear a ton of pants before. Now it seems she favors dresses. Now, here are the two issues I really have about post-time skip. Unrealistic body changes. I understand that it's anime and the drawing styles have changed, but come on! The only way either ladies boobs have grown that much is if they had a baby or they gained a lot of weight like usopp and then lost it all. Only then they wouldn't be tight. Their waists have also shrunk. At least with the guys, their body building is plausible. With the females, they must've both got plastic surgery on their bodies. My second issue, i'm fine with the girls dressing how they want as long as Oda remembers this is an adventure manga with tons of fighting. I don't want to see American superhero female outfits on the girls which are totally unrealistic. Even regular clothes that are unrealistic. Honestly, with some of the outfit Nami and Robin wear, there should be a ton more "panties" shots. However, Oda doesn't want one piece to be like that. Its not that type of manga right? Yet, the girls have went from awesome fighters and intelligent and skill assets for the team to just lounging around in sexually themed poses. They're now always bathing, or sticky hot and have to take off their clothes in a sexual manner. They have to be molested in a bathroom completely naked with us viewing them. (This was pre-time skip but Oda started this sexualization before the time skip). Nami and Robin weren't originally sexualized like this but now it seems like this is the only function they serve. This is why I prefer pre-time skip. Clothes that fit the bodies and USUALLY they also were fit for battle. The girls had a purpose and you really didn't notice their clothes or body. Now their unrealistic bodies with clothes are too small in sexual (and by sexual i'm meaning barely covered in a bath or wearing a too small towel with a young boys face rubbing between the breasts) situations are the only things you notice about them. All their intelligence and personality takes a back burner to their body. Also, they don't really fight anymore after the time-skip. They're the back up for the boys and have to be rescued. I like pre-time skip Nami and Robin. http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Concepts?file=3D2Y_Corner_3.png Here are some of Oda's post-time skip concepts of Robin. I thought she would look wonderful with short hair. It would also fit with what a lot of females do, even I. When we enter a new period of our life, we cut our hair. I don't think we even realize it half the time. She would've been sleek and classy with short hair. Her long hair makes her look too much like Hancock and Viola. They're all really similar. I know people say they look different, but considering how all they guys in One piece look obviously different from far away, people debate about whether or not a picture is Robin or Viola in a close up shot. Meaning, we need more variety and shorter hair. Even Tashigi's hair grew out long. |
Aug 5, 2015 3:21 PM
#47
Pre-timeskip, because they wore clothes(most of the time?) and their breast sizes weren't unrealistically big...well..at least 'as' unrealistically big. Paulie was wise beyond his time. |
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Sep 29, 2015 5:19 AM
#48
I like Nami's post-timeskip look, especially the hair (since it allows more styling options) and the Sorcery Clima-Tact (Perfect Clima-Tact was too bulky for me). I'd like to see her wearing more varied outfits as the series goes on, though. She's always seemed like the fashionista of the crew to me, as she had the more drastic costume changes across arcs while the other's were roughly the same. I can't really complain about her first outfit when it's basically her Skypeia outfit without the pigtails and with more low-riding jeans. I will complain at how she's basically only worn slight variations of that outfit for three arcs now. Minor aside, I wish when she first returned she'd be wearing some sort of variation of a robe and wizard hat. With Robin I prefer her pre-timeskip look, to be honest. Aside from the tan that helped her stand out from the rest of the crew (I know, I know), I mainly miss her bangs and her cowboy hat. My favorite outfits of hers tend to be the ones where she wore the hat (Alabasta, Jaya, Skypeia, Sabaondy). I like how her powers have expanded and hope this means she can have more fights now that her fighting style isn't just snapping the necks/spines (to be fair, why would you want to do anything else?) which I assume is why she's mainly relegated to mook duty/crowd control. That said, one last complaint I have is that women's body types are becoming too samey (if that's a word. spellcheck says it isn't). Like, if 90+% of the women stripped down and had their hair tied up and were only viewed from the neck down, I would probably only be able to point out Nami, Nojiko and Conis, because the first two have tattoos and the latter has wings. EDIT: And Boa. Forgot Boa has the tattoo as well. |
AllenNoahSep 29, 2015 12:56 PM
Feb 15, 2023 8:49 AM
#49
After. Nice fight perks and an enhancement in the important parts. |
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