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Feb 8, 2023 8:11 PM
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Tarikul said:
it's the most OVERRATED show I've seen... mediocrity combined with social anxiety can really trick some ppl to think its masterpiece... comedy is so avg like seriously bocchi's exaggerate facial expressions and her overacting on every simple thing is so annoying idk only clowns with shitty taste can give it 10/10...but the music, animation is good tho

Yup, I agree with your points as well. Show for me was an 8/10 as it told its story very well (animation, directing, soundtrack top tier) while having memorable characters as well. I liked all the characters except Bocchi who’s comedic aspects didn’t land for me 2/3 of the time.
Feb 8, 2023 8:20 PM
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Dije said:
The plot is already seen; it has nothing innovative. Throughout the anime there is only one comedy sketch, which is copied and pasted for 12 episodes changing the sauce but not the content, making the comedy uninspired. The music is forgettable and shallow, so the music also seems uninspired to me.

The only positive thing I found is that Bocchi's social phobia is done very well, so I thought, do people like this anime just for the self insert at this point? I took a look at the reviews and it certainly seems that way. In this review, which is among the top 3 most liked on the site ( https://myanimelist.net/reviews.php?id=466999 ) user GG-WP says it clearly, "Bocchi is me." And I stopped there.

I can understand that Bocchi's social phobia is well realized but even this is unrealistic in one respect, because if in reality a girl like Bocchi suffered from social phobia she would still have a kilometer-long line of men around her who would make her normal. If she were an obese girl or a man it would be much more realistic.

To me it is a show that treads water and does not stand up.  I feel like it was only liked for the self insert even though it doesn't make sense. What do you guys think? Is that really the only reason it is liked so much?

Well, for one, the show is pretty well animated. the exaggerated expressions on bocchis face never fail to disappoint. second is that just because the show has jokes based on one premise doesn't mean that the show isn't funny. for example there are many shows with jokes based on a characters stupidity but people still love some of those jokes. sure the premise is the shame but that doesn't mean that you can write it off as not funny. that is, unless you can't relate to the premise, which brings me to my third point

you can't really underestimate how relatable bocchi us as a character. a person who suffers from severe social anxiety will most definitely feel bocchi as a character quite deeply, to the poiny where they connect with the show quite alot. and social anxiety pretty much describes many anime watchers out there. so that would be why the show is really popular. in this way, bocchi is even more relatable than most of the relatable anime characters. if there was a list for most relatable anime charactes, bocchi would most definitely rank pretty high.

anyway,it's an amazing show and it is worth the hype. in fact, I would consider it underrated since many guys don't know that it exists. bocchi is an amazing and relatable character. but if you dint like the show coz none of its good points resonate with you, that's ok. but is still good to understand why the show is so well loved
Feb 8, 2023 9:13 PM
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This anime is very well directed. While i think the first few episode is nothing special from other music anime, it keep creating an unpredictable pattern that keep me watching and it keep getting better and better (character development, and concert stuff). I personally like their music the most because i like J-pop or J-rock music and the kessoku band music is so good, so harmony, so upbeat and the vocal also so good. The whole album has many amazing song, the difficulty is so high that i'm impressed by it.  

By the time i watched the finale eps, i can't forget about this anime. I re-watching and found out that the first few eps is not actually shallow or nothing special. Thanks to the reaction of the bocchi that i finally understand the joke, the characters, the references which i miss it from first time watch because i don't thinking many thing while watching. It is suprising how i still care about an anime for more than 1 month.

I think the story about social anxiety in this anime is absolutely deep that many people relate to it including me but there are few people don't find the story deep at all because either hating bocchi character, not focusing while watching it (miss some part) or don't understand about social anxiety itself (not relate). At first i think bocchi character is so cringy that i can't stand it and fast forwarding some scene but watching the character development is very satisfying to watch, the journey of someone who is always in the closet to becoming a popular rock band.
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Feb 8, 2023 9:41 PM
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People have their own taste no one gives a shit if you like or dislike a show

bochhi excels in many factors like art style ,VA , band performance etc... you are just pissed that it has higher ratings which doesn't suit your taste. just move on !

HOW TF IS THIS THREAD STILL OPEN ?
Feb 8, 2023 10:09 PM

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Men like girls with social phobia, so anime keeps making them. Then they can sell dakimakuras, figurines, posters and such as well.

If she was a guy, guys would not be into her. Only something like 0.5% to 5% of men are gay, a minority in total number of people.
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thread locked for not encouraging discussion
I actually said something similar like what you said, on this forum: https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=2073307&redirect=1, only I said that it was an x vs y debate & that's why it would get locked, which a mod said I was supposedly back seat moderating, which I wasn't.

Anyways, for the actual topic, I've seen 7 out of the 12 episodes & it's just an ok anime to me. 6/10d
Feb 8, 2023 10:49 PM
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ThorLL said:
Men like girls with social phobia, so anime keeps making them. Then they can sell dakimakuras, figurines, posters and such as well.

If she was a guy, guys would not be into her. Only something like 0.5% to 5% of men are gay, a minority in total number of people.
There are many male anti-social MCs out there liked by men though, the thing is that LN authors tend to idealize them or be too self-indulgent. Bocchi hits the sweet spot of charisma/character flaws, and it's not just a gender thing.
Also, the fujo industry is more lucrative when it comes to social anxiety anyway (see Yuri!! on ice)
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Most overrated anime of the year ๐Ÿ’ฉ
Mid the rock fans impossibile challenge stop over rating your mid 6/10 anime

makes me happy there are People like me
Bocchi the mid is in the top 13 wtf ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ’€
Feb 8, 2023 11:17 PM
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I think you’re alone in your opinion. I respect it don’t get me wrong, but you have 0 arguments for the ‘shallow and forgettable music’. Personally though I think the music is the thing that personally kept me intrigued especially after episode 5. As for the humor argument repeating itself for 12 episodes. Saiki K is a comedy that revolves around him having super powers. One could argue that the same joke is repeated for 50+ full length episodes and 400+ small episodes long.

It all comes down to preference. Little advice though, if you dislike a show, maybe not go on a rant in a community post and move on.
Feb 8, 2023 11:47 PM
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it's fine if you dislike it, but I like everything about it. The social anxiety is part of it, but I just think it's an exemplar of its genre, the best at what it's trying to be. Evaluating it by comparing it to more epic stories would be ludicrous - you compare it to other comedies, slice of life, and music anime, and to stories about socially anxious people. And in terms of all of that, to me at least, it beats almost anything else. The direction, the animation, the music, the pacing, the writing, the voice acting, the OP, the EDs, it's all great. Sure I got hooked in because of Bocchi, but I fell in love because of the others. especially the Drunk Bassist, she's a queen. 
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Galavant1814 said:
Tarikul said:
it's the most OVERRATED show I've seen... mediocrity combined with social anxiety can really trick some ppl to think its masterpiece... comedy is so avg like seriously bocchi's exaggerate facial expressions and her overacting on every simple thing is so annoying idk only clowns with shitty taste can give it 10/10...but the music, animation is good tho

Yup, I agree with your points as well. Show for me was an 8/10 as it told its story very well (animation, directing, soundtrack top tier) while having memorable characters as well. I liked all the characters except Bocchi who’s comedic aspects didn’t land for me 2/3 of the time.

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Vludi said:
ThorLL said:
Men like girls with social phobia, so anime keeps making them. Then they can sell dakimakuras, figurines, posters and such as well.

If she was a guy, guys would not be into her. Only something like 0.5% to 5% of men are gay, a minority in total number of people.
There are many male anti-social MCs out there liked by men though, the thing is that LN authors tend to idealize them or be too self-indulgent. Bocchi hits the sweet spot of charisma/character flaws, and it's not just a gender thing.
Also, the fujo industry is more lucrative when it comes to social anxiety anyway (see Yuri!! on ice)

People always self-idolize themselves.

I doubt many people really think they are failures and losers. They probably justify whatever shit they do as something good and desirable for whatever reason.

Even Nazi actually believed they were doing a good thing.

That is why I do not judge people by intentions, but rather by results.
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Who hurt you? Just say you hate it without hating other people's taste :)

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Feb 9, 2023 4:25 AM
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This is not Classroom of the Elite dude, and I also love that series. Your take on this anime is too one dimensional.
Feb 9, 2023 4:58 AM

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Her social anxiety is done extremely well and the production values are just excellent. I have never seen a show with this amount of well done references to other anime and different media that made me laugh this much. The animation choices, the way the scenes are portrayed are top notch.
Feb 9, 2023 5:11 AM
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Forgettable music and shallow? I disagree. This show does take a lot of inspiration from Asian Kung Fu Generation J-rock band and one of Bocchi The Rock ending theme song was a cover of Ajikan(AKFG) famous song called Rockn'Roll, Morning Light Falls on You. Also there was a radio talk with Ajikan head member, Masafumi Gotoh a guitarist and vocalist praising Bocchi and Kita guitar skills. So this wasn't that shallow or forgettable for Asian Kung Fu Generation fans but about the self insert one I don't know. I enjoyed this show only because of music cultures and comedy skits.
Feb 9, 2023 6:56 AM
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Is every aspect of relatability in fiction 'self-insert' now? lol. A lot of people identify with Bocchi and empathize with her struggle. We want to see her break out of her shell. 
Feb 9, 2023 7:53 AM
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Dije said:
And I stopped there.

You know why you stopped there? Because you are just trying to find an excuse to dislike the show. I mean, you took out one point from his review, posted an entire thread on it saying this is the only thing people care about. Thats low.
Also Since you seem to be too pinned on *INNOVATION*. Lemme tell you about a world famous anime called fmab. One of the most praised anime of all time , didn't do a single thing new, it was all anime tropes done before but just better. You gonna go and make a hate post there too , now? Or you just have something against bocchi.

Also no offense, but every last one of your points are super subjective, so unless you do a bit more reasearch and put actual points worth for debate, you are just making a fool out of yourself.
Sorry, i probably sound toxic but im tired of posts like this
Feb 9, 2023 9:13 AM
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I am on episode 5, but for now it's even hard seriously treat this anime like psychological problem. It's fun i like the style maybe it's not 10 but 7-8 for me and i doubt all this people who give 10/10 score thinking about self insert, maybe they just really like this show and don't care about scoring, if they like they give 10 :D Same like reviewer who give 1~ becouse have personal problems in my opinion.
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Personally, I don't need to relate/"self-insert" with a character to enjoy the show. Calling Bocchi's social phobia "being done very well" is selling it short in my opinion, it was sold in a very intuitive and creative way that really hammered down her character and expressed her feelings in a very unique and colorful manner that I also happened to find incredibly funny. You calling this joke "copy and pasted for 12 episodes" is fine, but for somebody that enjoyed the show, that made it feel consistent and I would definitely call the various visual gags varied even if the punchline was the same.

Also calling her social phobia unrealistic is just nonsensical, humor very commonly uses exaggerations, and the rest of that comment sounds like some incel shit.
Feb 9, 2023 11:08 AM
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where's season 2 btw?
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Her social phobia is kinda done right only cuz Bocchi is CGDCT type of show.
Feb 9, 2023 11:40 AM
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Dije said:
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I think you have to be a troll, because you didn't even mention the unique direction/animation, which is clearly the selling point. 

Plus, you have a shallow viewpoint, "innovation" isn't everything, a show can be great just for nailing all the familiar beats. 
No, I am not a troll, rather are you? Because direction/animation cannot be a selling point, I could give you an endless list of anime with excellent animation and direction that have not achieved any success.

I think it's the whole package. Direction, simpathy for the characters, humor in this case... The story is very forgettable and cringy, but I watched the whole thing because it was very funny and the simple scenes were well executed and creative. It's not just the quality of animation.

Which other shows would you use as examples? I'm interested.
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The anime does not intend to innovate, its plot is simple but very entertaining and well executed.
It has Bocchi who is one of the best written characters, she may not be your best girl but she is easily the best girl on the show.

All of her characters are charismatic, the animation is well done and it shows in the band's performances.
The music is amazing and that has contributed to the success of the anime.

It is also worth mentioning the passion of the artists behind the project, they love and know the source material perfectly.
If you add all this and other aspects that I have not mentioned, you get the answer why many people really liked this anime.
Feb 9, 2023 12:12 PM
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People on this site really can't comprehend people liking stuff that they don't...
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The absolute irony of complaining about a show being overrated when you have 150 completions rated 9/10 or higher. 

Forget the irony in that, it’s really ironic that he called it the most overrated show ever and then gave it an 8/10
That's some next level trolling, I guess he played me. lmao
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Feb 9, 2023 2:55 PM
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For those who love Bocchi, her nendo just got out.
Feb 9, 2023 4:39 PM

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Not necessarily.

I think it's attempt of tackling a kinda serious topic in a fun and cute way is where most people's praise is coming from.
Also it's CGDCT...so yeah. The fanbase is pretty mellow and forgives some flaws.
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ThorLL said:
Men like girls with social phobia, so anime keeps making them. Then they can sell dakimakuras, figurines, posters and such as well.

If she was a guy, guys would not be into her. Only something like 0.5% to 5% of men are gay, a minority in total number of people.


Good lord. This is such an obtuse and miope perspective of things. Writers and directors don't always do their jobs expecting the audience to engage on a romantic level on their character creations. Empathy is the key word here and it's about making the audience relate on some level with a fictional character and their story. Shows like "A Silent Voice" and "March comes like a Lion" are great examples of characters suffering from some social disorder and the way their story are portrayed on screen is what makes them engaging for all genders without the need to put the characters on a pedestal as husbando material.

ThorLL said:

People always self-idolize themselves.

This sounds more like your personal projection or lack of contact with real people from different classes, ages and demographics.

ThorLL said:

I doubt many people really think they are failures and losers. They probably justify whatever shit they do as something good and desirable for whatever reason.


That's again, the perception of your poor socialization. Depression, self deprecation and poor socialization can have different levels of trauma on different people. Japan used to be among the highest suicide rates given their high demand society to fill in for their working standards (this is also a huge reason why there's a lot of highschool anime, because that's the age where japanese have more liberties).

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Even Nazi actually believed they were doing a good thing.


Ah right, extreme zealots are the best choice to "generalize" for world population /s
Feb 9, 2023 10:12 PM
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yeah tbh excessively idealized self-insert MCs feel more like a cope for not being satisfied with your life, rather than self-idolization, its real source is self-deprecation. More competent writers just tend to accept and portray humans as they are.
as for the nazi (this kinda came out of nowhere), the "zealots" were a minority, most people were just "doing their jobs" and personally didn't care much for the ideology and were just acting mindlessly (which is probably scarier and the true source of evil).
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Anyone else notice that this dude dug himself a hole, and then just laid down in it, he completely abandoned this thread. lmao
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not reading all that
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Dije said:
The plot is already seen; it has nothing innovative. Throughout the anime there is only one comedy sketch, which is copied and pasted for 12 episodes changing the sauce but not the content, making the comedy uninspired. The music is forgettable and shallow, so the music also seems uninspired to me.

The only positive thing I found is that Bocchi's social phobia is done very well, so I thought, do people like this anime just for the self insert at this point? I took a look at the reviews and it certainly seems that way. In this review, which is among the top 3 most liked on the site ( https://myanimelist.net/reviews.php?id=466999 ) user GG-WP says it clearly, "Bocchi is me." And I stopped there.

I can understand that Bocchi's social phobia is well realized but even this is unrealistic in one respect, because if in reality a girl like Bocchi suffered from social phobia she would still have a kilometer-long line of men around her who would make her normal. If she were an obese girl or a man it would be much more realistic.

To me it is a show that treads water and does not stand up.  I feel like it was only liked for the self insert even though it doesn't make sense. What do you guys think? Is that really the only reason it is liked so much?
Agree with you 100%. Bur right now it's an untouchable darling of the MAL community and as you can see, the same group of posters police the Bocchi thread furiously cracking down on dissenting opinions and asking for the thread to be locked and what have you not. The power of self insert is strong
Imo, this show is going to age very poorly. Ten, fifteen years from now people are going to watch this and be completely baffled as to what the hype around it in 22 and 23 was. 


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1) The show forgets its plot as often as I do for how boring it is.

2) Yea, the comedy is repetitive. But everyone likes reddit meme tier comedy right? Did you see those cross eyes? le mao

3) I mean...yea sure, the music is like low tier vtuber idol song level, but the sales! Otaku ftw

4) Contrary to popular belief, Bocchi's portrayal of social phobia rings hollow when you see her looks and skill. It doesnt even make sense. It is wish fulfillment like you said.
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Dije said:
The plot is already seen; it has nothing innovative. Throughout the anime there is only one comedy sketch, which is copied and pasted for 12 episodes changing the sauce but not the content, making the comedy uninspired. The music is forgettable and shallow, so the music also seems uninspired to me.

The only positive thing I found is that Bocchi's social phobia is done very well, so I thought, do people like this anime just for the self insert at this point? I took a look at the reviews and it certainly seems that way. In this review, which is among the top 3 most liked on the site ( https://myanimelist.net/reviews.php?id=466999 ) user GG-WP says it clearly, "Bocchi is me." And I stopped there.

I can understand that Bocchi's social phobia is well realized but even this is unrealistic in one respect, because if in reality a girl like Bocchi suffered from social phobia she would still have a kilometer-long line of men around her who would make her normal. If she were an obese girl or a man it would be much more realistic.

To me it is a show that treads water and does not stand up.  I feel like it was only liked for the self insert even though it doesn't make sense. What do you guys think? Is that really the only reason it is liked so much?

i agree i dont think this show is good i just watched fullly .whats all the hype abt but its not that good
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Dije said:
The plot is already seen; it has nothing innovative. Throughout the anime there is only one comedy sketch, which is copied and pasted for 12 episodes changing the sauce but not the content, making the comedy uninspired. The music is forgettable and shallow, so the music also seems uninspired to me.

The only positive thing I found is that Bocchi's social phobia is done very well, so I thought, do people like this anime just for the self insert at this point? I took a look at the reviews and it certainly seems that way. In this review, which is among the top 3 most liked on the site ( https://myanimelist.net/reviews.php?id=466999 ) user GG-WP says it clearly, "Bocchi is me." And I stopped there.

I can understand that Bocchi's social phobia is well realized but even this is unrealistic in one respect, because if in reality a girl like Bocchi suffered from social phobia she would still have a kilometer-long line of men around her who would make her normal. If she were an obese girl or a man it would be much more realistic.

To me it is a show that treads water and does not stand up.  I feel like it was only liked for the self insert even though it doesn't make sense. What do you guys think? Is that really the only reason it is liked so much?

i think yourlie in april did this better as sub plot
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It's not that deep lmao. Just let people enjoy it, why does there have to be some deep reason for liking something?
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Feb 10, 2023 3:36 AM
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"she's not a total failure like me so it's wish fulfillment!" this one always cracks me up.
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The main character is both wildly entertaining as well as a very realistic portrayal of someone who is shy/socially awkward, The way they portray her awkwardness is done in a really dynamic and entertaining way as well.

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Te eri quello che si lamentava delle critiche argomentate a Code Geass vero? HAHAHAHAAHAHA
Senza contare l'incellata sul finale del post, bellissimo, 10/10
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Remove "only" from the thread title and then yeah, sure. 


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It seems like you're deliberately ignoring all the other elements of the show given you confessed to not fully reading a review that does a good job at spelling out how the animation, accessibility, sound, and voice acting go together to make this a delight, while the "she's like me" was tacked on at the beginning of the review for the fun of it. Yes, lots of people are rating this high because it hits close to home, but not "only" because of that, you're deliberately ignoring every other aspect that people liked about the show to create your own vendetta against it.
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I'm with you on this one, OP. Bocchi is so well-received only because "she just like me fr" memes which somehow people started taking seriously, and the creative (at times) animation. Bocchi's social anxiety is so exaggerated that it's hard to think of it as an real issue rather than just a gimmick to force comedic moments, so it's hard for me to understand exactly how and why so many people relate to her.

Anyway, it's still a decent show, it just gets more credit than it deserves. I am glad that CloverWorks took the credit though, they really needed it after some of their in 2021 weren't met well by fans.
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I do not agree. What has make me like this Anime are the musical scene especially the first one which is very well made.
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Tarikul said:
it's the most OVERRATED show I've seen... mediocrity combined with social anxiety can really trick some ppl to think its masterpiece... comedy is so avg like seriously bocchi's exaggerate facial expressions and her overacting on every simple thing is so annoying idk only clowns with shitty taste can give it 10/10...but the music, animation is good tho

100%. Preach brother
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I haven't watched anime in forever.

What's wrong with people liking a guitar gremlin? Troglodytes are still people y'know.

Also why she always look like big retard?



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Uruichi said:
Dije said:
The plot is already seen; it has nothing innovative. Throughout the anime there is only one comedy sketch, which is copied and pasted for 12 episodes changing the sauce but not the content, making the comedy uninspired. The music is forgettable and shallow, so the music also seems uninspired to me.

The only positive thing I found is that Bocchi's social phobia is done very well, so I thought, do people like this anime just for the self insert at this point? I took a look at the reviews and it certainly seems that way. In this review, which is among the top 3 most liked on the site ( https://myanimelist.net/reviews.php?id=466999 ) user GG-WP says it clearly, "Bocchi is me." And I stopped there.

I can understand that Bocchi's social phobia is well realized but even this is unrealistic in one respect, because if in reality a girl like Bocchi suffered from social phobia she would still have a kilometer-long line of men around her who would make her normal. If she were an obese girl or a man it would be much more realistic.

To me it is a show that treads water and does not stand up.  I feel like it was only liked for the self insert even though it doesn't make sense. What do you guys think? Is that really the only reason it is liked so much?

At least bocchi was entertaining throughout the whole season unlike spy family part 2

And why do you feel the need to protect your precious anime bringing done another one OP didn't even talk about? I'm curious about how your mind works.
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Self-insert is just one of the factors albeit a big one (not me though as I can't relate at all to Bocchi)

Cute looking characters and the comedy also contribute highly to the popularity too. 



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Feb 11, 2023 6:38 AM

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ThorLL said:
Vludi said:
There are many male anti-social MCs out there liked by men though, the thing is that LN authors tend to idealize them or be too self-indulgent. Bocchi hits the sweet spot of charisma/character flaws, and it's not just a gender thing.
Also, the fujo industry is more lucrative when it comes to social anxiety anyway (see Yuri!! on ice)

People always self-idolize themselves.

I doubt many people really think they are failures and losers. They probably justify whatever shit they do as something good and desirable for whatever reason.

Even Nazi actually believed they were doing a good thing.

That is why I do not judge people by intentions, but rather by results.
Is this one of those unironic alpha male?
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Itโ€™s time to ditch the text file.
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