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Dec 21, 2022 4:50 PM
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Surely it was the most followed anime of the season but do you think it is a profit for Mappa? It is probably one of the anime with the highest budget, even 12 different endings complete with videos and a more than good marketing campaign, not to mention the animations.
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Dec 21, 2022 4:58 PM
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I don't know if it's still too early to tell, but CSM has had a bunch of collaborations with other projects recently, and it'll probably only continue as the series grows in popularity thanks to the anime adaptation. Ergo, the profitability of it for MAPPA will probably also grow. But I guess we'll see.
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Dec 21, 2022 5:30 PM
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We'll just have to see. The results will definitely pour more prominently after its conclusion next week but idk if they'll be able to pull of something like new ending songs for every episode from here on out, that's too much of a gamble
Dec 21, 2022 7:39 PM
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I dont think economic success is an opinion really, id imagine its made plenty of cash
Dec 21, 2022 7:57 PM
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Didnt do anything for manga sales
Dec 21, 2022 8:44 PM
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The studios are hired by the production committee and paid for the work ahead of time right? So its success or failure is somewhat irrelevant to Mappa's finances
Dec 21, 2022 8:51 PM
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Maenads said:
The studios are hired by the production committee and paid for the work ahead of time right? So its success or failure is somewhat irrelevant to Mappa's finances
Isnt the producer like MAPPA



Dec 21, 2022 8:51 PM
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Maenads said:
The studios are hired by the production committee and paid for the work ahead of time right? So its success or failure is somewhat irrelevant to Mappa's finances

MAPPA's funding chainsaw man
Dec 21, 2022 8:53 PM
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Gween_Gween said:
Maenads said:
The studios are hired by the production committee and paid for the work ahead of time right? So its success or failure is somewhat irrelevant to Mappa's finances
Isnt the producer like MAPPA
idk, that would be a new way of doing things.

edit: https://comicbook.com/anime/news/chainsaw-man-anime-production-committee/
It appears to be true. So if the series does well it would be great for Mappa.
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Haha of course it is. It revamped people’s awareness of MAPA and the surrounding artists associated with the ED songs. It got a ton of people to watch the series both manga fans and new audiences who saw the hype train. And it got into every major streaming platform. So absolutely made money especially if they sell Merch like pochita plushies and keychains which are selling like crazy online and the manga is out of stock in every Barnes and noble I’ve seen. They’re making money hand over fist with this animation.
Dec 21, 2022 10:32 PM
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Jockeys said:
Surely it was the most followed anime of the season but do you think it is a profit for Mappa? It is probably one of the anime with the highest budget, even 12 different endings complete with videos and a more than good marketing campaign, not to mention the animations.
but it was not the most followed anime in japan
Dec 21, 2022 10:33 PM
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Haha of course it is. It revamped people’s awareness of MAPA and the surrounding artists associated with the ED songs. It got a ton of people to watch the series both manga fans and new audiences who saw the hype train. And it got into every major streaming platform. So absolutely made money especially if they sell Merch like pochita plushies and keychains which are selling like crazy online and the manga is out of stock in every Barnes and noble I’ve seen. They’re making money hand over fist with this animation.
manga sales have nothing to do with mappa
Dec 21, 2022 10:35 PM

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probably considering the popularity 

Dec 21, 2022 10:52 PM

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moonandvibes said:
Didnt do anything for manga sales

You won’t be able to tell until a new volume releases after the anime ends.
Dec 22, 2022 12:22 AM
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I dont know if it was an economic success... Too early to tell, but I think it was a successful project and a step forward for mappa. Maybe they will lose some money, i dont know, but they win in other ways.
Dec 22, 2022 12:56 AM

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Nowadays japanese studios get good money from overseas streaming. I'm sure that merch sells really well. The first BD comes out on January 27th, we'll have official sales figures after that.
Dec 22, 2022 1:22 AM
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Didnt do anything for manga sales

probably will once the anime finishes airing
Dec 22, 2022 1:29 AM
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Depends how much they made from streaming etc
Dec 22, 2022 2:41 AM
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Blu-ray and dvd sales have been terrible. It's literally not even bringing more profit in from physical copy sales than some mediocre seasonal anime. The mangas sales haven't been boosted whatsoever either. If we're talking about profit, this adaptation has failed in so many different ways.
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StaleNut said:
Blu-ray and dvd sales have been terrible. It's literally not even bringing more profit in from physical copy sales than some mediocre seasonal anime. The mangas sales haven't been boosted whatsoever either. If we're talking about profit, this adaptation has failed in so many different ways.


How about streaming view? Do it have big number? Reincarnated as sword this season having season 2 because high view in streaming. Do you have a info?
Dec 22, 2022 2:52 AM
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Eurycoma said:
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Blu-ray and dvd sales have been terrible. It's literally not even bringing more profit in from physical copy sales than some mediocre seasonal anime. The mangas sales haven't been boosted whatsoever either. If we're talking about profit, this adaptation has failed in so many different ways.


How about streaming view? Do it have big number? Reincarnated as sword this season having season 2 because high view in streaming. Do you have a info?

No info on that yet. We'll probably get a better understanding of CSM's financial situation after the final 12th episode airs. Obviously it's still too early to say how well the entire blu-ray collection will perform, or how high the streaming views and profit is. For now tho, it's not looking too good, at least when it comes to the reception inside Japan.
Dec 22, 2022 3:03 AM
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Oh god no, most anime go into the red. Did you know even though it was the most popular of it’s season Ranking of Kings was a financial disaster for WIT studio abd almost bankrupt them
Dec 22, 2022 3:09 AM

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StaleNut said:

For now tho, it's not looking too good, at least when it comes to the reception inside Japan.


Streaming already have info if you looking at site. CSM dominating huge view in streaming site. Always top10 on netflix Japan. If you talking about BD mostly all anime bd didnt sell well even sxf this season.

Even Reincarnated as Sword isekai didnt do well in BDs but do well in Abema streaming. Because of that it got season 2.

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Gween_Gween said:
Isnt the producer like MAPPA

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MAPPA's funding chainsaw man


CSM also is funded by Sony Music and Bushiroad.


Dec 22, 2022 3:37 AM
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Metamarphosis said:
Gween_Gween said:
Isnt the producer like MAPPA

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MAPPA's funding chainsaw man


CSM also is funded by Sony Music and Bushiroad.



yeah I'm aware of that, there are many companies that have invested in music and marketing..what I meant was the production part of csm.
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ueno_ said:

yeah I'm aware of that, there are many companies that have invested in music and marketing..what I meant was the production part of csm.


Music and marketing is part of production of anime. Can you explain what you want to say?
Dec 22, 2022 5:46 AM

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ueno_ said:

by production I mean the animation, direction and stuff regarding those


Stop posting if you underage. You don't know what are you talking about
Dec 22, 2022 6:17 AM

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Metamarphosis said:
ueno_ said:

by production I mean the animation, direction and stuff regarding those


Stop posting if you underage. You don't know what are you talking about

It’s funny you say that with terrible grammar while not displaying your real age. Are you projecting?

The other guy didn’t even say anything aggressive, calm down and be civil
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Jockeys said:
Surely it was the most followed anime of the season but do you think it is a profit for Mappa? It is probably one of the anime with the highest budget, even 12 different endings complete with videos and a more than good marketing campaign, not to mention the animations.

Highest budget?

To be honest, with the voice actors being mostly newbies, I'd actually say this has a lower budget then most shows, because that's where most of the cost is, hiring voice actors.
Dec 22, 2022 8:19 AM

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Metamarphosis said:
Gween_Gween said:
Isnt the producer like MAPPA

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MAPPA's funding chainsaw man

CSM also is funded by Sony Music and Bushiroad.

That translates to sponsor, and it's different from Production (製作)

So in this case Bushiroad and Sony Music don't really see much of the profits except when it realates to them, like the sale of official OST cds for example.


Dec 22, 2022 8:53 AM

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CSM also is funded by Sony Music and Bushiroad.
Being also funded by ... doesn't mean that MAPPA is not involved in a financial risk as they are part of the committee. The reason we got 12 EDs is because Sony Music wanted to advertise their artists btw



Dec 22, 2022 8:56 AM

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Haha of course it is. It revamped people’s awareness of MAPA and the surrounding artists associated with the ED songs. It got a ton of people to watch the series both manga fans and new audiences who saw the hype train. And it got into every major streaming platform. So absolutely made money especially if they sell Merch like pochita plushies and keychains which are selling like crazy online and the manga is out of stock in every Barnes and noble I’ve seen. They’re making money hand over fist with this animation.
crazy because my local B&N has had all physical CSM volumes in stock since I can remember.


𝒮𝑜𝓂𝑒𝓉𝒾𝓂𝑒𝓈, 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝒸𝒶𝓃'𝓉 𝓂𝑜𝓋𝑒 𝒻𝑜𝓇𝓌𝒶𝓇𝒹 𝓌𝒾𝓉𝒽𝑜𝓊𝓉 𝒸𝓁𝑜𝓈𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝒹𝑜𝑜𝓇 𝒷𝑒𝒽𝒾𝓃𝒹 𝓎𝑜𝓊. - 𝑅𝑒𝒾 𝒦𝒾𝓇𝒾𝓎𝒶𝓂𝒶



Dec 22, 2022 11:54 AM
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Are you stupid,,,
Dec 24, 2022 2:40 AM
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just watch the show, no need for an 'economic' discussion
Dec 24, 2022 3:59 AM
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I think it still made/making (a lot of) money... however, it's definitely not as monumental as JJK or KNY's success... both of which dominated manga sales (and strong BD sales) these past 4 years.
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streaming profit should be high especially international streaming profit

but disc sales are bad according to recent news its nowhere gonna be near the disc sales of Jujutsu Kaisen and Demon Slayer

as for manga sales its rank number 2 last week with Blue Lock manga being the number 1 https://twitter.com/Josu_ke/status/1606370722141458432
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Blu-ray and dvd sales have been terrible. It's literally not even bringing more profit in from physical copy sales than some mediocre seasonal anime. The mangas sales haven't been boosted whatsoever either. If we're talking about profit, this adaptation has failed in so many different ways.
What are you talking about the Bluray won't even be out for over a month lol, stop lying. (also yes it did boost the manga sales, why else did every volume of CSM stay on the list of top 30 best selling manga every week for several months?)
Dec 24, 2022 9:09 PM
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it point csm on the radar of a whole generation of anime onlys for sure
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Haha of course it is. It revamped people’s awareness of MAPA and the surrounding artists associated with the ED songs. It got a ton of people to watch the series both manga fans and new audiences who saw the hype train. And it got into every major streaming platform. So absolutely made money especially if they sell Merch like pochita plushies and keychains which are selling like crazy online and the manga is out of stock in every Barnes and noble I’ve seen. They’re making money hand over fist with this animation.
crazy because my local B&N has had all physical CSM volumes in stock since I can remember.



oh just wait until the anime ends.

most anime to manga shifts come from the viewer wanting more.
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yes, mappa's newest cash cow
Dec 25, 2022 12:10 AM
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Blu-ray and dvd sales have been terrible. It's literally not even bringing more profit in from physical copy sales than some mediocre seasonal anime. The mangas sales haven't been boosted whatsoever either. If we're talking about profit, this adaptation has failed in so many different ways.
What are you talking about the Bluray won't even be out for over a month lol, stop lying. (also yes it did boost the manga sales, why else did every volume of CSM stay on the list of top 30 best selling manga every week for several months?)

The japanese blu-rays are already out bruh. CSM in Japan has been underperforming in physical amazon sales. Check official news sources before calling me out for lying.

And the CSM manga was doing numbers like that even before the anime came out. The sales may have been boosted by like 10% at most, which is nothing for a shonen jump manga with an ongoing anime.
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The japanese blu-rays are already out bruh. CSM in Japan has been underperforming in physical amazon sales. Check official news sources before calling me out for lying.

And the CSM manga was doing numbers like that even before the anime came out. The sales may have been boosted by like 10% at most, which is nothing for a shonen jump manga with an ongoing anime.
wow u said that so confidently, no the 1st volume of the Blu-ray comes out January 27

The pre orders on Amazon are already out. And the pre orders have been underperforming. Sorry, didn't know you only read one info on the topic and decided to not check any other source of info💀
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wow u said that so confidently, no the 1st volume of the Blu-ray comes out January 27

The pre orders on Amazon are already out. And the pre orders have been underperforming. Sorry, didn't know you only read one info on the topic and decided to not check any other source of info💀
yea mappa offered lots of exclusive stuff and even hired out a 16k capacity theatre to have a gallery and try to sell blu-ray (the jjk gallery was much smaller) and the preorders are definitely underperforming not even taking into account the amount of marketing that it received  
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moonandvibes said:
Didnt do anything for manga sales
mappa isn't getting a cent from the manga, so that's a useless statistic
the anime has been a chart topper, second only to spy family
it's safe to say they're making their money back
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Judging by how much CR for instance has promoted the show, it seems like MAPPA and the production committee in general made bank just from selling the 12 episodes to streaming websites. CSM-related content has been booming on MAPPA's YT channel too and I'm sure their videos are monetized, that's additional income. Now, it'll be truly a success if they can sell lots of blu-rays and merch. Despite all the above, I still think it's too soon to tell. 
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CSM also is funded by Sony Music and Bushiroad.



yeah I'm aware of that, there are many companies that have invested in music and marketing..what I meant was the production part of csm.


Ahhh, so that explains the strange presence of the VA for the main MC, Benji, Kikunosuke  Toya, being a newb Supported by superstar seiyu  Tomori Kusunoki, they are both Sony affiliated in some way, and Toya gonna appear in SOny's next newest attempt at Idol project UniteUp! along with other new make VAs.  Likely a backroom funding deal by Sony.
Dec 25, 2022 5:51 AM
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yeah well, it looks like it's not going as good as they expected, some people are also criticizing Nakayama Ryuu because of his poor direction (and I definitely agree with them). Surprisingly enough it even got overshadowed by Bocchi the Rock on most appreciation polls in Japan as well as in western countries
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yeah well, it looks like it's not going as good as they expected, some people are also criticizing Nakayama Ryuu because of his poor direction (and I definitely agree with them). Surprisingly enough it even got overshadowed by Bocchi the Rock on most appreciation polls in Japan as well as in western countries

I'm anime only but what "poor direction" are you talking about? the anime has been pretty damn solid so far and I'm loving it.

My only complaint so far has been the CGI but at this point, I'm not even complaining about it anymore, this anime has beautiful animation so I will forgive the CGI.
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yeah well, it looks like it's not going as good as they expected, some people are also criticizing Nakayama Ryuu because of his poor direction (and I definitely agree with them). Surprisingly enough it even got overshadowed by Bocchi the Rock on most appreciation polls in Japan as well as in western countries

I'm anime only but what "poor direction" are you talking about? the anime has been pretty damn solid so far and I'm loving it.

My only complaint so far has been the CGI but at this point, I'm not even complaining about it anymore, this anime has beautiful animation so I will forgive the CGI.
anime onlies will get a better experience out of this, Nakayama's vision of Chainsaw Man definitely differs from the manga and not in a good way in my opinion, it could've been such a crazy ride without making the whole thing this dark, almost edgy. But I guess this is purely subjective and I'm happy people are enjoying the ride, from now on it only gets better
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I'm anime only but what "poor direction" are you talking about? the anime has been pretty damn solid so far and I'm loving it.

My only complaint so far has been the CGI but at this point, I'm not even complaining about it anymore, this anime has beautiful animation so I will forgive the CGI.
anime onlies will get a better experience out of this, Nakayama's vision of Chainsaw Man definitely differs from the manga and not in a good way in my opinion, it could've been such a crazy ride without making the whole thing this dark, almost edgy. But I guess this is purely subjective and I'm happy people are enjoying the ride, from now on it only gets better

So in other words, you are complaining about the lack of comedy, right?

Too much comedy ruins an anime for me so I'm glad the anime took a more darker, serious approach. If there is something that I hate the most in animes is having serious moments being ruined with shitty gag comedy like Demon Slayer or FMAB, seriously, I just can't stand the tonal whiplash when they shoehorn a shitty comedy in the middle of a serious moment, it completely ruins it for me.

If Chainsaw Man has this type of shit in the manga then yeah, I'm glad the director removed that shit in the anime since I would have hated it too.
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