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Nov 26, 2022 7:31 PM
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i was thinking about posting about this for a couple days but @ryo-san post is why i decided to go ahead

ive been watching alot of paranormal compilations recently and was wondering if you dear reader believe in paranormal activity. personally i just watch the videos trying to figure out a logical reason for it
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Nov 26, 2022 8:19 PM
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I don't believe in paranormal activity but I get scared of things like ghosts and stuff irl even though I know that they are not real. But I can still watch horror themed things, I'm just not the biggest fan of them.
Nov 26, 2022 8:38 PM
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No, it's not real. If the paranormal was real, our society would look a lot different from how it does.
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Nov 26, 2022 9:56 PM
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i have started to think paranormal activity is real after using this board
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Nov 26, 2022 10:06 PM
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sadly nope because i've never seen ghosts irl. maybe they think they can't live up to my expectations (pun intended)
Nov 26, 2022 10:48 PM
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Since last week after watching mob psycho, I'm planning to go ufo hunting...
it's such a nice idea that just came up on the anime and I like to explore it..

I like the occult, the urban legends and rural myths, ghosts and youkais, ufo..
The Japanese writers write a lot of mysterious stories about the occult, ghosts and aliens... So I like Japanese anime, books and movies..

I think as a kid i was heavily influenced by the X-Files..

This is why I love the rain and dark and gloomy weather...
 

Nov 26, 2022 10:52 PM
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I haven't experience such a thing myself so maybe no but spooky videos, ghost hunting etc are fun to watch even though it's kinda hard to find like an actual real one
Nov 26, 2022 10:57 PM
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Oh boy op, I have so many tales of the paranormal to speak off that I could writte a journal of them.

From being lured deeper into the Woods by a wendigo, and being saved by my first boyfriend, in living on a couple of haunted houses.

To hearing something calling my name out of the blue, with no one around, and with no one in that area knowing my name.

To be called by name to go deeoer into the Woods twice, once in daylight and once at night.

Having two German Shepherds Dogs refuse to down some stairs towards the basement, frozen solid, no matter what I, or my friends did to try to make them go down the stairs, both of them never moved a muscle.

And so many more.
Me every time I hear the word "reparations": 🤣🤣🤣
Nov 26, 2022 11:05 PM
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well @ryo-san how do u feel now that both pessi n lewandonkey have been spotted kicking some balls in the back of some nets
Nov 26, 2022 11:18 PM
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Verthandi11 said:
well @ryo-san how do u feel now that both pessi n lewandonkey have been spotted kicking some balls in the back of some nets


Scripted world cup..I feel like they have betrayed me and supported the oil merchants for blood money.. And not speak out about the dictatorship and abuse they inflicted on people..

But call a player a gorilla or something , they will moan about mental health and racism and get the person banned and arrested..

They only care about themselves and not their fans.. Fans are just customers to them.. Fans mental health don't matter to them or anyone..

Only the mental health of the rich and famous matter..
 

Nov 26, 2022 11:24 PM
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ryo-san said:
Verthandi11 said:
well @ryo-san how do u feel now that both pessi n lewandonkey have been spotted kicking some balls in the back of some nets


Scripted world cup..I feel like they have betrayed me and supported the oil merchants for blood money.. And not speak out about the dictatorship and abuse they inflicted on people..

But call a player a gorilla or something , they will moan about mental health and racism and get the person banned and arrested..

They only care about themselves and not their fans.. Fans are just customers to them.. Fans mental health don't matter to them or anyone..

Only the mental health of the rich and famous matter..
pat pat hope u feel better abt that soon. maybe boycotting the world cup wud help
Nov 27, 2022 12:04 AM
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There's far more unknown to humanity than known to humanity. There's a lot of room for "mysterious" things to exist.
Nov 27, 2022 12:14 AM
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Verthandi11 said:
ryo-san said:


Scripted world cup..I feel like they have betrayed me and supported the oil merchants for blood money.. And not speak out about the dictatorship and abuse they inflicted on people..

But call a player a gorilla or something , they will moan about mental health and racism and get the person banned and arrested..

They only care about themselves and not their fans.. Fans are just customers to them.. Fans mental health don't matter to them or anyone..

Only the mental health of the rich and famous matter..
pat pat hope u feel better abt that soon. maybe boycotting the world cup wud help


I did boycott the world cup.. And Thanks grandpa
 

Nov 27, 2022 3:40 AM

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I've seen a Ghost before, as have many of my family members, and I've experienced poltergeist activity twice, second experience was witnessed by others also.
I absolutely believe in paranormal activity.

Many of those clips on YouTube are fakes though, it's just one of the most popular and easiest things to hoax to get lots of views.
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Nov 27, 2022 5:32 AM

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LightWorker said:
I've seen a Ghost before, as have many of my family members, and I've experienced poltergeist activity twice, second experience was witnessed by others also.
I absolutely believe in paranormal activity.

Many of those clips on YouTube are fakes though, it's just one of the most popular and easiest things to hoax to get lots of views.


thats kind of what i figured and i never believe in videos when people claim to be home alone or whenever a kid is involved i assume they were coached

if paranormal activity is real i wonder what causes people to experience it and others not other than just luck because ive never seen any and neither has anyone i personally know at least not that they ever said
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Nov 27, 2022 5:49 AM

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56709 said:
LightWorker said:
I've seen a Ghost before, as have many of my family members, and I've experienced poltergeist activity twice, second experience was witnessed by others also.
I absolutely believe in paranormal activity.

Many of those clips on YouTube are fakes though, it's just one of the most popular and easiest things to hoax to get lots of views.


thats kind of what i figured and i never believe in videos when people claim to be home alone or whenever a kid is involved i assume they were coached

if paranormal activity is real i wonder what causes people to experience it and others not other than just luck because ive never seen any and neither has anyone i personally know at least not that they ever said

Well, kids & animals have a better chance of seeing/sensing ghosts and spirits, but I don't know the exact reason? but yes absolutely kids could be coached, or not quite understand what their experiencing. My family have always been pretty spiritual, my father's Day was a medium and my family did spiritualism for a bit.

Our main home was haunted for a bit. We let it out and the tenants used ouija boards incorrectly (so we were told), but it wasn't pleasant living there when it was like that, many of my family members experienced strange and scary things, including my Sister who is the biggest realist/skeptic, and that's as good endorsement as any for me. It did get cleared eventually, but it still never felt like the same house I was born in.
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Not really, I can't find a reason to believe it, so it sounds irrational.
My mom claims that the clock stopped at exactly the time her dad / my grandpa died, but yeah... could be true or not. There is no way to proof it.
Nov 27, 2022 6:13 AM

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I believe in the paranormal even though there is no concrete proof because I think it would be cool for something like that to exist.
Nov 27, 2022 6:23 AM

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@-kokomi- i figured that too i wish it was more common to talk about it and not harshly judge for example i dont believe in it but id go somewhere someone said they experienced the activity with them if they wanted but then maybe whatever is there wont act the same and make the person look foolish

hm maybe some people are just destined to experience things like that for better or worse and some arent and maybe im one of those that doesnt get to
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Nov 27, 2022 7:07 AM

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I don't really believe in any of that, but for some reason spend too many hours in my life hearing and reading about paranormal stuff. I guess it's just fascinating. Most common story I have heard from people is their relative came to say goodbye as a spirit and the clock stops at the time of the dead. Other paranormal story I have heard often is foot steps during night time in an old house.
Nov 27, 2022 7:20 AM
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Once you spend some nights at a cemetery you know what to believe in... and it ain't ghosts.

But sure, I have experienced paranormal events... still don't know what to make out of them.
Nov 27, 2022 7:29 AM
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56709 said:
@-kokomi- i figured that too i wish it was more common to talk about it and not harshly judge for example i dont believe in it but id go somewhere someone said they experienced the activity with them if they wanted but then maybe whatever is there wont act the same and make the person look foolish

hm maybe some people are just destined to experience things like that for better or worse and some arent and maybe im one of those that doesnt get to


I think a lot of people are very in their own heads when they're outside too. There could be something paranormal right in front of them and they wouldn't notice.
Nov 27, 2022 7:33 AM

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I believe in the supernatural in the sense that it's a powerful tool to tell apart reasonable and unreasonable people. Anyone who believes in that stuff is immediately gone. Naturalism all the way, everything else is senseless.
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Nov 27, 2022 7:36 AM
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I believe in the supernatural in the sense that it's a powerful tool to tell apart reasonable and unreasonable people. Anyone who believes in that stuff is immediately gone. Naturalism all the way, everything else is senseless.


So it's so unreasonable to believe that there are unknowns in the universe that anyone who believes in such things is "immediately gone" (whatever that means).
Nov 27, 2022 7:38 AM

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Railey2 said:
I believe in the supernatural in the sense that it's a powerful tool to tell apart reasonable and unreasonable people. Anyone who believes in that stuff is immediately gone. Naturalism all the way, everything else is senseless.

Really? I don't seem to have gone anywhere?
Nov 27, 2022 8:57 AM

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-Kokomi- said:
Railey2 said:
I believe in the supernatural in the sense that it's a powerful tool to tell apart reasonable and unreasonable people. Anyone who believes in that stuff is immediately gone. Naturalism all the way, everything else is senseless.


So it's so unreasonable to believe that there are unknowns in the universe that anyone who believes in such things is "immediately gone" (whatever that means).
unknowns are fine. There are lots of unknowns in the universe. Did you know that we don't know where Basque came from? Doesn't have a language family! Fascinating. And there's probably a dozen types of particles that exist that we haven't found yet. Incredible.

But that's very different from saying that
- there is a whole category of stuff that's completely beyond the scientific method AND
- YOU (or perhaps some others) somehow have access to it and can "sense" it, when hundreds of years of replicable experiments couldn't do so much as catch a whiff of it

at that point you're just being a dumbass. I'm all for the unknown and uncovering it. But paranormal claims aren't just claims of the unknown. They're really dumb and implausible claims of the unknown.

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Railey2 said:
I believe in the supernatural in the sense that it's a powerful tool to tell apart reasonable and unreasonable people. Anyone who believes in that stuff is immediately gone. Naturalism all the way, everything else is senseless.

Really? I don't seem to have gone anywhere?
But you are gone, from my list of people I take seriously
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Me and a friend once snucked into an abandoned school at night. We were exploring the corridors where all the classrooms are when all of a sudden we heard the sound of a baby crying and we bolted out of the building straight into the parade square, freaked out for awhile, played Christian music for awhile and climbed out of the place immediately. Scary but good memories
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@Railey2 Oh noooo a random stranger on the internet doesn't take me seriously, whatever will I do now? :((((
Nov 27, 2022 10:00 AM
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-Kokomi- said:


So it's so unreasonable to believe that there are unknowns in the universe that anyone who believes in such things is "immediately gone" (whatever that means).
unknowns are fine. There are lots of unknowns in the universe. Did you know that we don't know where Basque came from? Doesn't have a language family! Fascinating. And there's probably a dozen types of particles that exist that we haven't found yet. Incredible.

But that's very different from saying that
- there is a whole category of stuff that's completely beyond the scientific method AND
- YOU (or perhaps some others) somehow have access to it and can "sense" it, when hundreds of years of replicable experiments couldn't do so much as catch a whiff of it

at that point you're just being a dumbass. I'm all for the unknown and uncovering it. But paranormal claims aren't just claims of the unknown. They're really dumb and implausible claims of the unknown.

LightWorker said:

Really? I don't seem to have gone anywhere?
But you are gone, from my list of people I take seriously


I don't think we know enough to say that it's not possible. That's the essence of this conversation - entertaining the possible. Anything could be happening outside of this universe. And quite a lot could be happening inside of it that we don't know. Acting like it's all figured out is absurd to me.
Nov 27, 2022 10:34 AM

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-Kokomi- said:
56709 said:
@-kokomi- i figured that too i wish it was more common to talk about it and not harshly judge for example i dont believe in it but id go somewhere someone said they experienced the activity with them if they wanted but then maybe whatever is there wont act the same and make the person look foolish

hm maybe some people are just destined to experience things like that for better or worse and some arent and maybe im one of those that doesnt get to


I think a lot of people are very in their own heads when they're outside too. There could be something paranormal right in front of them and they wouldn't notice.


could be a choice not to see also. this conversation made me remember that the church i went to as a kid supposedly had a haunted basement but most of the time it was lit up and full of people but there a few times i went down there when it was empty because there was a vending machine just at the bottom of the stairs. i got a creepy feeling being down there by myself most likely just because of the stories i heard so i never dawdled i would buy my soda or whatever and scurry back upstairs fast as i could

now that were talking about it it makes me think of how i typically focus in on my destination or goal whenever im alone and only open up my vision so to speak when im in a group especially if the area is light and open

i also avoid places that seem creepy and leave them as quick as possible if i must go through it
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Nov 27, 2022 10:43 AM

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-Kokomi- said:
Railey2 said:
unknowns are fine. There are lots of unknowns in the universe. Did you know that we don't know where Basque came from? Doesn't have a language family! Fascinating. And there's probably a dozen types of particles that exist that we haven't found yet. Incredible.

But that's very different from saying that
- there is a whole category of stuff that's completely beyond the scientific method AND
- YOU (or perhaps some others) somehow have access to it and can "sense" it, when hundreds of years of replicable experiments couldn't do so much as catch a whiff of it

at that point you're just being a dumbass. I'm all for the unknown and uncovering it. But paranormal claims aren't just claims of the unknown. They're really dumb and implausible claims of the unknown.

But you are gone, from my list of people I take seriously


I don't think we know enough to say that it's not possible. That's the essence of this conversation - entertaining the possible. Anything could be happening outside of this universe. And quite a lot could be happening inside of it that we don't know. Acting like it's all figured out is absurd to me.
you know people who make claims about the paranormal don't usually say that it happens outside of the universe. They tend to talk about shit that happens on earth, and usually to them personally. Like "oh, I saw this thing, or heard this thing, or these are things that are happening that are related to some supernatural force, you bet, and these forces care specifically to show themselves to me and stay perfectly out of sight of every attempt to actually discover them, because....."

If someone wants to spin fantasies about what things are like "outside of our universe", then ey more power to them. Seems like a pointless to me, but to each their own. That's not what believers in the paranormal are doing though, most of the time.


@LightWorker cool, great conversation.
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I want to have an intercourse with a ghost
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It would just be arrogance to think only people in modern times ever knew anything at all and that all that is known now is all there is to know and all that is. Of course not every instance is anything paranormal but that doesn’t mean it’s all a big nothing.
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I have photography as a hobby and I explored abandoned buildings, like castle's, hospitals and other buildings. One of the buildings was even in the serie 'ghost hunter'. I never encountered any paranormal activities.

I think personally that ghost don't even exist, atleast for me but they do exist for other people. I saw a documentary about the 2011 tsunami in Japan. They interviewed a survivor and he said that he can see the ghosts wandering around from the people who died that day. But other people who wasn't there that day, couldn't see the ghosts.

This was a profound interview for me, because it got me thinking and thinking a lot. Maybe seeing ghosts has something to do with PTSD, trauma's, emotions or other psychological causes. I started to dig around and apparently a university is already doing research to see if ghosts are indeed related to psychological causes.

They also say that a ghost that wanders around can't move on. Because the ghost haven't closed something or need to furfill something. No this isn't correct, the person who see the ghost needs to furfill something, so the ghost can move on. This can be different things, like overcome a trauma or close a chapter of a loved one that passed away or many other things that can cause these paranormal activities. This can be different for each individual.

Doctors and scientist have also reported that people who have been in car accidents, or other traumatic expierences, have more paranormal activities expierences then before.

You can look those researches up, and it's a serious thing. Not something we should laugh about it, be ashamed of or simply put away.

Our brains is a very complex thing, we only know a small piece of it. Each year we find more and more things about our brains. This subject is one of them.

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Railey2 said:
-Kokomi- said:


I don't think we know enough to say that it's not possible. That's the essence of this conversation - entertaining the possible. Anything could be happening outside of this universe. And quite a lot could be happening inside of it that we don't know. Acting like it's all figured out is absurd to me.
you know people who make claims about the paranormal don't usually say that it happens outside of the universe. They tend to talk about shit that happens on earth, and usually to them personally. Like "oh, I saw this thing, or heard this thing, or these are things that are happening that are related to some supernatural force, you bet, and these forces care specifically to show themselves to me and stay perfectly out of sight of every attempt to actually discover them, because....."

If someone wants to spin fantasies about what things are like "outside of our universe", then ey more power to them. Seems like a pointless to me, but to each their own. That's not what believers in the paranormal are doing though, most of the time.


@LightWorker cool, great conversation.


The idea is that something outside of our universe wouldn't necessarily have to obey the laws of our universe. Maybe they would even have some kind of power over it. That could manifest to us as something supernatural. It's interesting to think about.

I was thinking earlier that even extraterrestrials in our own universe would be able to develop technologies or something similar that would look supernatural to us. I don't think it would be very hard if they've been around for much longer. I don't know how parallel universe stuff works or even if it's possible, but that's another source of possible supernatural occurrences.

I also think a lot of normal occurrences would seem more supernatural if science didn't exhaustively investigate them as to remove as much doubt as possible. There isn't much difference between a normal event and a supernatural one. The only difference is how much something has been investigated. I'm sure lightning and many other things seemed supernatural to our ancestors.

Maybe it's tiring reading all this, but I think it's interesting to consider what else could exist. The world seems a bit mundane right now because there's this sense of certainty that we've reached certain limits (soft limits, for the most part), and that causes someone like me to desire something more exciting - something truly new.

There's also spirituality and the desire for deeper meaning - true purpose. A person can only motivate himself so much with the belief that he's going to be permanently non-existent in a few decades, especially when that small number of decades is characterized by suffering and self-control.
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I think a lot of people are very in their own heads when they're outside too. There could be something paranormal right in front of them and they wouldn't notice.


could be a choice not to see also. this conversation made me remember that the church i went to as a kid supposedly had a haunted basement but most of the time it was lit up and full of people but there a few times i went down there when it was empty because there was a vending machine just at the bottom of the stairs. i got a creepy feeling being down there by myself most likely just because of the stories i heard so i never dawdled i would buy my soda or whatever and scurry back upstairs fast as i could

now that were talking about it it makes me think of how i typically focus in on my destination or goal whenever im alone and only open up my vision so to speak when im in a group especially if the area is light and open

i also avoid places that seem creepy and leave them as quick as possible if i must go through it


I have two different mindsets when it comes to inexplicable things. The first is that they can't possible be real and that people are misunderstanding what's happening. The second is a more immediate reaction to the feeling that something outside of my range of experience and expectation just happened and I simply can't explain it. That has happened twice to me. I still can't properly explain either.

I guess the short version is that a "fear response" might be more rational than one might think. Maybe there are things happening that are outside of what would be considered reasonable expectation. It's an exciting thought.
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you know people who make claims about the paranormal don't usually say that it happens outside of the universe. They tend to talk about shit that happens on earth, and usually to them personally. Like "oh, I saw this thing, or heard this thing, or these are things that are happening that are related to some supernatural force, you bet, and these forces care specifically to show themselves to me and stay perfectly out of sight of every attempt to actually discover them, because....."

If someone wants to spin fantasies about what things are like "outside of our universe", then ey more power to them. Seems like a pointless to me, but to each their own. That's not what believers in the paranormal are doing though, most of the time.


@LightWorker cool, great conversation.


The idea is that something outside of our universe wouldn't necessarily have to obey the laws of our universe. Maybe they would even have some kind of power over it. That could manifest to us as something supernatural. It's interesting to think about.

I was thinking earlier that even extraterrestrials in our own universe would be able to develop technologies or something similar that would look supernatural to us. I don't think it would be very hard if they've been around for much longer. I don't know how parallel universe stuff works or even if it's possible, but that's another source of possible supernatural occurrences.

I also think a lot of normal occurrences would seem more supernatural if science didn't exhaustively investigate them as to remove as much doubt as possible. There isn't much difference between a normal event and a supernatural one. The only difference is how much something has been investigated. I'm sure lightning and many other things seemed supernatural to our ancestors.

Maybe it's tiring reading all this, but I think it's interesting to consider what else could exist. The world seems a bit mundane right now because there's this sense of certainty that we've reached certain limits (soft limits, for the most part), and that causes someone like me to desire something more exciting - something truly new.

There's also spirituality and the desire for deeper meaning - true purpose. A person can only motivate himself so much with the belief that he's going to be permanently non-existent in a few decades, especially when that small number of decades is characterized by suffering and self-control.
There's also a difference between "it's interesting to think about sometimes" and "oh yeah I believe in all that stuff and some of it might have happened to me btw".

If you want to think about crazy hypotheticals then be my guest, nothing wrong with that. But belief is a different pair of shoes.

On motivation, personally I think if you need to leave reality to motivate yourself, then you're in really bad shape and should probably seek help.
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The idea is that something outside of our universe wouldn't necessarily have to obey the laws of our universe. Maybe they would even have some kind of power over it. That could manifest to us as something supernatural. It's interesting to think about.

I was thinking earlier that even extraterrestrials in our own universe would be able to develop technologies or something similar that would look supernatural to us. I don't think it would be very hard if they've been around for much longer. I don't know how parallel universe stuff works or even if it's possible, but that's another source of possible supernatural occurrences.

I also think a lot of normal occurrences would seem more supernatural if science didn't exhaustively investigate them as to remove as much doubt as possible. There isn't much difference between a normal event and a supernatural one. The only difference is how much something has been investigated. I'm sure lightning and many other things seemed supernatural to our ancestors.

Maybe it's tiring reading all this, but I think it's interesting to consider what else could exist. The world seems a bit mundane right now because there's this sense of certainty that we've reached certain limits (soft limits, for the most part), and that causes someone like me to desire something more exciting - something truly new.

There's also spirituality and the desire for deeper meaning - true purpose. A person can only motivate himself so much with the belief that he's going to be permanently non-existent in a few decades, especially when that small number of decades is characterized by suffering and self-control.
There's also a difference between "it's interesting to think about sometimes" and "oh yeah I believe in all that stuff and some of it might have happened to me btw".

If you want to think about crazy hypotheticals then be my guest, nothing wrong with that. But belief is a different pair of shoes.

On motivation, personally I think if you need to leave reality to motivate yourself, then you're in really bad shape and should probably seek help.


Maybe one day something will happen to you that you can't explain. Who knows?

About motivation, there's such variation between people that one size will never fit everyone. Different people need different answers. Naturalism or whatever else can't provide the answers some need to feel like everything's okay or that the sacrifice is worth it. It might be natural for some to desire more meaning than whatever the instinctive drive to survive is. It might not be poor health or whatever you suggest.
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Oh no, not a thread about ghosts again. Even the devout Christian writer Dostoevsky made fun of people for believing in spiritism and devils, that should get you guys thinking a little more before speaking next time... He also ends his diary from January 1876 by a pleasant Turkish proverb that should be the vade mecum of everyone in life, and lead to the banishment of all "social" media:

"If thou hast started out to reach a certain goal, and if thou shouldst be stopping en route to throw stones at every dog barking at thee, thou shalt never reach thy goal."

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Oh no, not a thread about ghosts again. Even the devout Christian writer Dostoevsky made fun of people for believing in spiritism and devils, that should get you guys thinking a little more before speaking next time... He also ends his diary from January 1876 by a pleasant Turkish proverb that should be the vade mecum of everyone in life, and lead to the banishment of all "social" media:

"If thou hast started out to reach a certain goal, and if thou shouldst be stopping en route to throw stones at every dog barking at thee, thou shalt never reach thy goal."



Doesn't this assume that reaching a goal is the primary objective of life? Seems foolish to assume everyone is the same person with the same nature.

I think people want more interesting answers than whatever it is scientists produce. More satisfying answers too. Can you blame them for rejecting the mundane - the mind-numblingly boring? Who in their right mind embraces the mundane and internalizes it? That is to become mundane yourself. I suppose it's safe to be so mundane? Or something? What's the reason?
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Obviously, duh! Everyone has experienced such events, including yours truly! This morning after rolling out of bed I fed my cat, and then I made myself breakfast, for example. That's a pair'a normal activities in my book.
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Oh no, not a thread about ghosts again. Even the devout Christian writer Dostoevsky made fun of people for believing in spiritism and devils, that should get you guys thinking a little more before speaking next time... He also ends his diary from January 1876 by a pleasant Turkish proverb that should be the vade mecum of everyone in life, and lead to the banishment of all "social" media:

"If thou hast started out to reach a certain goal, and if thou shouldst be stopping en route to throw stones at every dog barking at thee, thou shalt never reach thy goal."



Doesn't this assume that reaching a goal is the primary objective of life? Seems foolish to assume everyone is the same person with the same nature.

I think people want more interesting answers than whatever it is scientists produce. More satisfying answers too. Can you blame them for rejecting the mundane - the mind-numblingly boring? Who in their right mind embraces the mundane and internalizes it? That is to become mundane yourself. I suppose it's safe to be so mundane? Or something? What's the reason?

People have different objectives in life, but I believe that they all try to accomplish at least a few goals in life. It does not mean that people are all the same, but we all have the same nature otherwise, if by nature you mean the human nature.

That is a strange viewpoint to me. Science provides a very limited number of answers on a few questions, and somehow, you would be willing to discard them out of boredom or alleged mundanity? It does not seem like a sensible thing to do for me. The laws of physics might be different outside the visual universe, but it does not matter to us and never will most likely. That is why this question is not interesting. I do not believe that science is remotely mundane—we live in times where anyone can access to images of the early universe from his living room. You can self-teach yourself mathematics and physics through Moodle and similar online lectures. The only reason that leaves scientists in some kind of intellectual ghetto is laziness and lack of interest of the general public.

The good poet of the 21st century will know quantum physics and rejoice at the thought of making "quark" rhyme with "Mark," and "nucleus" with "Jesus."
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i feel like a lot of the paranormal activity stuff people talk about has been pretty much tested inside and out to be bullshit. of course things violating normal laws of physics or whatever?? sure, we keep revising that stuff so regularly.

but i bet it would be something very dumb and silly. not the flashy stuff everyone wants to believe in.

unless reality is some sort of idealism
Nov 27, 2022 2:44 PM
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Doesn't this assume that reaching a goal is the primary objective of life? Seems foolish to assume everyone is the same person with the same nature.

I think people want more interesting answers than whatever it is scientists produce. More satisfying answers too. Can you blame them for rejecting the mundane - the mind-numblingly boring? Who in their right mind embraces the mundane and internalizes it? That is to become mundane yourself. I suppose it's safe to be so mundane? Or something? What's the reason?

People have different objectives in life, but I believe that they all try to accomplish at least a few goals in life. It does not mean that people are all the same, but we all have the same nature otherwise, if by nature you mean the human nature.

That is a strange viewpoint to me. Science provides a very limited number of answers on a few questions, and somehow, you would be willing to discard them out of boredom or alleged mundanity? It does not seem like a sensible thing to do for me. The laws of physics might be different outside the visual universe, but it does not matter to us and never will most likely. That is why this question is not interesting. I do not believe that science is remotely mundane—we live in times where anyone can access to images of the early universe from his living room. You can self-teach yourself mathematics and physics through Moodle and similar online lectures. The only reason that leaves scientists in some kind of intellectual ghetto is laziness and lack of interest of the general public.

The good poet of the 21st century will know quantum physics and rejoice at the thought of making "quark" rhyme with "Mark," and "nucleus" with "Jesus."


Physical bodies and a system of description regarding the behavior of those physical bodies. That says nothing about meaning. Unless there's some great meaning to an orb revolving around another orb that I'm missing?

Meaning is the interesting part, at least to me.
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-Kokomi- said:
Meusnier said:

People have different objectives in life, but I believe that they all try to accomplish at least a few goals in life. It does not mean that people are all the same, but we all have the same nature otherwise, if by nature you mean the human nature.

That is a strange viewpoint to me. Science provides a very limited number of answers on a few questions, and somehow, you would be willing to discard them out of boredom or alleged mundanity? It does not seem like a sensible thing to do for me. The laws of physics might be different outside the visual universe, but it does not matter to us and never will most likely. That is why this question is not interesting. I do not believe that science is remotely mundane—we live in times where anyone can access to images of the early universe from his living room. You can self-teach yourself mathematics and physics through Moodle and similar online lectures. The only reason that leaves scientists in some kind of intellectual ghetto is laziness and lack of interest of the general public.

The good poet of the 21st century will know quantum physics and rejoice at the thought of making "quark" rhyme with "Mark," and "nucleus" with "Jesus."


Physical bodies and a system of description regarding the behavior of those physical bodies. That says nothing about meaning. Unless there's some great meaning to an orb revolving around another orb that I'm missing?

Meaning is the interesting part, at least to me.

Physics says nothing about metaphysics besides giving it some rules. So you are right to search for meaning elsewhere.
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What I'm going to say here all of you can take it with a grain of salt for all I care. But it really happened.

This took place in the same house my two German Shepherds Dogs refused to go down to the basement, and for good reasons, that basement was haunted asf! By 3 ghost, one adult male and two boys, one a 6 or 7 y/o we all called "the crying boy" the other an older boy, maybe 13/14 y/o. Anyway, this basement was massive, plus it had a fallout shelter plus several add ons/extensions. The older parts were "off limits" for something, something. The official reason was, "it had been build around the early 1900's and it was in a bad shape".

Anyway we boys had a sort of rite of passage, the greenhorn had to go to the old part of the "the maze" that's we boys called that basement, with a "veteran" at night, with the lights turned off and with only two flashlights, one for each boy, the mission go to the farther away room, the so called "crying boy bedroom" and collect a sample of the moss that was growing on a particular corner of that room. And come back with it. The "veteran" was there to make sure the greenhorn didn't cheat.

I never saw the crying boy, only one of us ever did, Max, he saw it only once. On that room with the moss growing on a corner that had water dripping from somewhere down and the whole corner was covered with this dark mold and green moss, from the ceiling down to the floor.

Max saw the boy squatting looking at the wall, the boy was crying, sobbing and sniffing softly, hence the "crying boy" nickname, we all heard this soft crying/sobbing/sniffing often, all over the corridors of that maze. Max points the lights towards the boy and he turns he's head in this unnatural way and Max told us that the boy didn't have eyes, the eyes socket were this empty black holes. Nothing in them except this deep blackness.
Of course Max high tailed out of there.

The night came for my rite of passage, I was 10, I had postpone it for two years now, no turning back now. I went in with one of the 3 older boys of our group, Louis, he is four years older than. He has the key to open the room and the two flashlights.
While walking we heard multiple "sounds" and "footsteps" from someone beside us, I remember feeling cold, very cold. We reached the corridor where the room was located and Louis points the light at the door and it's open, that door was always close and locked down with a key, the key Louis had in his hand.

The two of us are standing there in front of the door and he says, well greenhorn what are you waiting for? Go inside and collect the trophy so we cant get the fudge out of Dodge. I go in, he stays at the door threshold, I point my beam of light frantically all over the place, Louis is like "men hurry up!" I go and take out my Swiss Knife and start to collect the "trophy" I drop the knife, Louis tells me "just leave it!" I turn around and start making my way out when we heard giggling coming from inside the room, that was my cue to run, but then I see Louis getting pushed by an invisible force/thing , he almost falls down on his face, he later told me he felt this two heavy hands pushing him forwards from behind his shoulder him.

We both run towards the door and it slams itself shut with a huge BAM! This was a really heavy metal door from the early 1900? And it just closed by itself. We try to open it, we turn the door knob, nothing, it's locked, Louis uses the key, it doesn't work, the damn thing doesn't open.

All the while we keep hearing the giggles and then a adult male disembodied voice starts yelling at us "RUN!", "GET OUT", "BRAT", "ME", "BEHIND", "IT IS ME" "RUN, RUN, RUN" "GET OUT, GET OUT, GET OUT" we hear this crawling sound coming closer and closer to us. Then once more "GET OUT, GET OUT, GET OUT" Louis just yells back, OKAY, LET US GO THEN! OPEN THE D Once he said that the door opens by itself and we just run for dear life, all the while the giggling was all around us.

That giggling sound was creepy asf. We return to the base of the stairs and I told him, shit I lost the trophy! Fuck it, was his answer, I saw you collecting it, you had it in your hand, I saw it, okay. I was the last greenhorn to ever had to go through that rite of passage
Me every time I hear the word "reparations": 🤣🤣🤣
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There is stuff that with the current, official knowledge seems rather in the realm of fantasy/esoteric and stuff from parapsychology that seems already doable with it becoming common in a few decades
I would count telekinesis and teleportation of more than just a few atoms at most in the category of the former and mind-reading and telepathy in the category of the latter. This however doesn't mean I don't believe the former can't be true, given how the history of humanity leaves lots of question marks and lots of chances to hide things. For once, it makes it rather incredible that humans have only developed in the last few thousands of years and that there couldn't have been any further advanced civilization before which we do not know about because the traces are hidden or simply don't exist any longer.

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There's far more unknown to humanity than known to humanity. There's a lot of room for "mysterious" things to exist.
Very well said
btw I couldn't catch your response outside the first two sentences and technically, the first three or only two words, depending on how it's counted of the third sentence. If you read this, I hope you will continue to fare better and enjoy as many seconds as possible in life
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I think we have more proof of people writing and filming using such techniques than real proof of ghosts.
If ghosts are real, then we might end up harvesting them like we do with energy since they are immaterial.
The reincarnation by human means' issue will have long been a concluded affair.

Thank you for trying logic out on paranormal stuff because anyone will have an easier time telling medical, war and human atrocities while still not warping their mind clearly ard those. If anything comforts you ppl, it's that oil is made up of these insolvent parts of organic matters, meaning living creatures that turn into fossils, meaning people and animals. Then, we proceed to burn ppl's corpse when they die, so they return to energy.

Welcome to paranormal in a nutshell.
Good grievance.
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Anyone who believes in supernatural shit, yeah check yourself in the local looney bin.

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Ehh, not really. Most videos just seem fake and I’ve never see anything happen in real life. I’ve had people tell me their experiences before but I don’t have a lot of faith…👀👀
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