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| I could've sworn several fan translations of the manga in the old days and even subs for the anime referred to Vegapunk as a "he". Was that just a creative liberty type thing? I know that the Japanese language is vague when it comes to pronouns, but you'd think various translators would've known better than to assume Vegapunk's gender. Edit: Just checked my English VIZ copy of volume 50. Kuma referred to Vegapunk as a "he" there too. Yikes. So it wasn't just the fan translations that used the "he" pronoun. That's awkward. How is VIZ gonna deal with their error? |
WematanyeSep 21, 2022 6:08 PM
Early_Morning said: I could've sworn several fan translations of the manga in the old days and even subs for the anime referred to Vegapunk as a "he". Was that just a creative liberty type thing? I know that the Japanese language is vague when it comes to pronouns, but you'd think various translators would've known better than to assume Vegapunk's gender. Edit: Just checked my English VIZ copy of volume 50. Kuma referred to Vegapunk as a "he" there too. Yikes. So it wasn't just the fan translations that used the "he" pronoun. That's awkward. How is VIZ gonna deal with their error? Bro it's so obvious this is just a bot/clone that just so happens to be a girl Do u not see the number on her chest There's no error lmao |
| It's good that Slop leveling won the CR awards with such a power gap, Gaijin Weebs don't deserve good anime. Not after what they did to frieren, kusuriya, and many others |
Mei-o_Scarlett said: Early_Morning said: I could've sworn several fan translations of the manga in the old days and even subs for the anime referred to Vegapunk as a "he". Was that just a creative liberty type thing? I know that the Japanese language is vague when it comes to pronouns, but you'd think various translators would've known better than to assume Vegapunk's gender. Edit: Just checked my English VIZ copy of volume 50. Kuma referred to Vegapunk as a "he" there too. Yikes. So it wasn't just the fan translations that used the "he" pronoun. That's awkward. How is VIZ gonna deal with their error? Bro it's so obvious this is just a bot/clone that just so happens to be a girl Do u not see the number on her chest There's no error lmao In fact, the number 2 indicates that it's probably a robot or something like that, so maybe Vegapunk really isn't a girl. But maybe even though it's a clone the girl may just have the appearance that Vegapunk had when she was young, or maybe it's just a normal young girl who's having her mind controlled by Vegapunk through that thing attached to her ear. In any case, what can be known for sure is that Vegapunk is much older than that girl seems to be. The girl seems to be of the longarm tribe though, doesn't she? In any case, I really hope the real Vegapunk isn't a pretty woman. Vegapunk is the most dangerous villain in the whole series, considering how he turns people into cyborgs, etc. I hope he's an ugly old man so that it's more likely for him to have a very bad ending. |
ColtBuntlineSep 21, 2022 8:50 PM
| “Right is right even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong even if everyone is doing it.” ― Saint Augustine |
Mei-o_Scarlett said: Early_Morning said: I could've sworn several fan translations of the manga in the old days and even subs for the anime referred to Vegapunk as a "he". Was that just a creative liberty type thing? I know that the Japanese language is vague when it comes to pronouns, but you'd think various translators would've known better than to assume Vegapunk's gender. Edit: Just checked my English VIZ copy of volume 50. Kuma referred to Vegapunk as a "he" there too. Yikes. So it wasn't just the fan translations that used the "he" pronoun. That's awkward. How is VIZ gonna deal with their error? Bro it's so obvious this is just a bot/clone that just so happens to be a girl Do u not see the number on her chest There's no error lmao Cute theory, but I'm basing what I said on what we've actually been told so far, including her dialogue where she literally says "I am the only one genius scientist employed by the Government, Dr. Vegapunk". Until proven otherwise, she is Vegapunk as of this chapter. It's interesting that people are in disbelief that a genius scientist could possibly be female, though. How dare Oda give us another plot-relevant female character. /sarcasm |
| so everything that we know off including that vegapunk is canonically at least 60, his hometown people who should know him the best never once mention he's a girl at all all thrown away because muh she says she's vegapunk clearly everything else that says otherwise in the manga Is wrong and not my way of thinking God op fags @fmmatron look at these idiots |
| It's good that Slop leveling won the CR awards with such a power gap, Gaijin Weebs don't deserve good anime. Not after what they did to frieren, kusuriya, and many others |
| By the way, it will be great if Oda uses this arc to bring to an end everything related to the pacifistas, seraphims, etc., so that after this arc until the end there will be no more robot or cyborg appearing in the story. Also, now that I think about it... Vegapunk looking like a girl could be a combination of Ivankov's with Bonney's devil fruit power... |
ColtBuntlineSep 21, 2022 9:19 PM
| “Right is right even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong even if everyone is doing it.” ― Saint Augustine |
| Bonnie is a hottie. Vegapunk is a hottie (or rather, his second body or daughter perhaps, considering the 02). I only see wins in this chapter, thanks Oda (worth the wait, has been hundreds of chapters since we first heard of Vegapunk). Inb4 (s)he joins the crew as an inventor (position atm shared between 2 characters with other main functions of their own, Franky and Usopp). Break next week, welp. There wasn't a single miss in this last saga so far, every chapter goes by in what look like seconds, it's getting hard to wait haha 5/5 |
DanpmssSep 22, 2022 12:04 AM
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Early_Morning said: I could've sworn several fan translations of the manga in the old days and even subs for the anime referred to Vegapunk as a "he". Was that just a creative liberty type thing? I know that the Japanese language is vague when it comes to pronouns, but you'd think various translators would've known better than to assume Vegapunk's gender. Edit: Just checked my English VIZ copy of volume 50. Kuma referred to Vegapunk as a "he" there too. Yikes. So it wasn't just the fan translations that used the "he" pronoun. That's awkward. How is VIZ gonna deal with their error? Not the first time they made a similar mistake. They would just apologize again in a footnote and proceed. But in this case, if she truly is just a he scientist who experimented turning young with different sex, it could be a Mona Lisa/Da Vinci from Fate GO kind of situation. The Punk Hazard arc seems to indicate Vegapunk is in fact an old man (the anime also dubbed as such). This could also be a clone, daughter or anything that can explain that 02 in the chest. |
DanpmssSep 22, 2022 12:05 AM
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Danpmss said: Early_Morning said: I could've sworn several fan translations of the manga in the old days and even subs for the anime referred to Vegapunk as a "he". Was that just a creative liberty type thing? I know that the Japanese language is vague when it comes to pronouns, but you'd think various translators would've known better than to assume Vegapunk's gender. Edit: Just checked my English VIZ copy of volume 50. Kuma referred to Vegapunk as a "he" there too. Yikes. So it wasn't just the fan translations that used the "he" pronoun. That's awkward. How is VIZ gonna deal with their error? Not the first time they made a similar mistake. They would just apologize again in a footnote and proceed. But in this case, if she truly is just a he scientist who experimented turning young with different sex, it could be a Mona Lisa/Da Vinci from Fate GO kind of situation. The Punk Hazard arc seems to indicate Vegapunk is in fact an old man (the anime also dubbed as such). This could also be a clone, daughter or anything that can explain that 02 in the chest. nah fam you in disbelief its just a theory vegapunk is CLEARLY a girl youre just wrong |
| It's good that Slop leveling won the CR awards with such a power gap, Gaijin Weebs don't deserve good anime. Not after what they did to frieren, kusuriya, and many others |
Mei-o_Scarlett said: Danpmss said: Not the first time they made a similar mistake. They would just apologize again in a footnote and proceed. But in this case, if she truly is just a he scientist who experimented turning young with different sex, it could be a Mona Lisa/Da Vinci from Fate GO kind of situation. The Punk Hazard arc seems to indicate Vegapunk is in fact an old man (the anime also dubbed as such). This could also be a clone, daughter or anything that can explain that 02 in the chest. nah fam you in disbelief its just a theory vegapunk is CLEARLY a girl youre just wrong Bruh, the anime dubbed Vegapunk as a guy, with Oda's supervision. Oda described him as being "an old man" in both anime and manga. There's a 02 in the body. What other evidence do you need exactly that Vegapunk is canonically a 60+ years old man in a younger vessel (that may just be a sucessor, depending on how this is going)? |
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Danpmss said: Mei-o_Scarlett said: nah fam you in disbelief its just a theory vegapunk is CLEARLY a girl youre just wrong Bruh, the anime dubbed Vegapunk as a guy, with Oda's supervision. Oda described him as being "an old man" in both anime and manga. There's a 02 in the body. What other evidence do you need exactly that Vegapunk is canonically a 60+ years old man in a younger vessel (that may just be a sucessor, depending on how this is going)? why u telling me look above u the fcking idiot youre quoting desont believe it |
| It's good that Slop leveling won the CR awards with such a power gap, Gaijin Weebs don't deserve good anime. Not after what they did to frieren, kusuriya, and many others |
Mei-o_Scarlett said: Danpmss said: Bruh, the anime dubbed Vegapunk as a guy, with Oda's supervision. Oda described him as being "an old man" in both anime and manga. There's a 02 in the body. What other evidence do you need exactly that Vegapunk is canonically a 60+ years old man in a younger vessel (that may just be a sucessor, depending on how this is going)? why u telling me look above u the fcking idiot youre quoting desont believe it Oh, I get it, you were being sarcastic. My bad. With Mikasa around I can never be so sure. |
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Danpmss said: Oh, I get it, you were being sarcastic. My bad. With Mikasa around I can never be so sure. kek is k mikasa doesnt come around until like saturday |
| It's good that Slop leveling won the CR awards with such a power gap, Gaijin Weebs don't deserve good anime. Not after what they did to frieren, kusuriya, and many others |
| Aight, I better demonstrate some evidence just in case. For quality of discussion and speculation going forward. Early_Morning said: Mei-o_Scarlett said: Bro it's so obvious this is just a bot/clone that just so happens to be a girl Do u not see the number on her chest There's no error lmao Cute theory, but I'm basing what I said on what we've actually been told so far, including her dialogue where she literally says "I am the only one genius scientist employed by the Government, Dr. Vegapunk". Until proven otherwise, she is Vegapunk as of this chapter. It's interesting that people are in disbelief that a genius scientist could possibly be female, though. How dare Oda give us another plot-relevant female character. /sarcasm That same Oda already confirmed Vegapunk to be an old man as early as Punk Hazard. It's more than evident that considering the storyline so far, Vegapunk is at the very least as old if not older than Sanji's dad. For a first evidence of this around 400 chapters ago:  |
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Danpmss said: Aight, I better demonstrate some evidence just in case. For quality of discussion and speculation going forward. Early_Morning said: Cute theory, but I'm basing what I said on what we've actually been told so far, including her dialogue where she literally says "I am the only one genius scientist employed by the Government, Dr. Vegapunk". Until proven otherwise, she is Vegapunk as of this chapter. It's interesting that people are in disbelief that a genius scientist could possibly be female, though. How dare Oda give us another plot-relevant female character. /sarcasm That same Oda already confirmed Vegapunk to be an old man as early as Punk Hazard. It's more than evident that considering the storyline so far, Vegapunk is at the very least as old if not older than Sanji's dad. For a first evidence of this around 400 chapters ago: Thank you for showing that image. Well, actually there two possible ways to interpret that Japanese text. By ベガパンクのクソオヤジ the marine may be calling Vegapunk a shitty old man, but there's also the possibility that he was referring to Vegapunk's shitty father. In any case, considering how the marine chose to specify that he was referring to a クソオヤジ instead of just saying Vegapunk, it can be inferred that he felt some need to use the adjective to clarify which person he was referring to (though it can also be supposed that he just wanted to insult Vegapunk). So perhaps there are two Vegapunk's: The Vegapunk father and the Vegapunk daughter. And considering how we've just seen a girl claiming to be Dr. Vegapunk, now it certainly makes sense to conjecture that the girl is her father's successor. They share the same surname and title, but are two different people. I'm not affirming that this is definitely the case though. |
ColtBuntlineSep 22, 2022 1:41 AM
| “Right is right even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong even if everyone is doing it.” ― Saint Augustine |
| Could be Vegapunk even tho they were referred to as old guy before. Could be one of their robots that acts in their stead. FMmatron said: Or maybe it's a girl after all and Vegapunk got some youth pills/ has very advanced anti aging treatment based on Bonney's devil fruit, lol. Technically it could be possible for a girl of thag age to Vegapunk, provided you pair superhuman IQ and an island that's like 500 years in the future. Reminds me of one of Vivi's lines.  @Mei-o_Scarlett The number could just be on the suit. And let's be real, if Oda wanted to retcon Vegapunk as a girl he would do it. Or she's just an imposter/fraud. In any case, this is giving me Old Piece vibes. The new Sunny feature is dope, attaboy Frankly. I'm excited to finally get to Vegapunk. Like bro, the name was dropped in chapter 433 for the first time, that was 16 years ago. With Bonney and him we could learn a lot about Kuma. I was hoping for this direction after the introduction of the Seraphim. And we're nearing end game, so this was one of the last opportunities to introduce Vegapunk. Jinbe is such a valueable member to have in these dangerous waters and as newest member it's only right that he's part of Luffy's group. Chopper and Bonney are with them and this constellation promises fun dynamics. On the other hand, some impressive inventions. The mecha shark and giant robot are cool af. Helmeppo ain't the coolest character around, but gotta respect how much he cares about his friend. Will he beg Luffy for help once he sees him? Even if they start out chill, One Piece arcs can escalate quickly and I wouldn't mind a coby rescue and a reunion with him. Great set up chapter. I knew I saw that delinquent looking marine somewhere  Danpmss said: Bonnie is a hottie. Vegapunk is a hottie (or rather, his second body or daughter perhaps, considering the 02). Vice admiral "Doll" is a hottie, too xD |
FMmatronSep 26, 2022 2:26 PM
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| what happen with vegapunk since the last time we see them? |
 "If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
| Female Vegapunk? What? |
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| I swear Oda's panelization is just getting worse as we approach the ending; some of the sequences he draws are almost unreadable. Also can't say I'm surprised by Vegapunk being a woman in this instance, Oda gets off on subverting expectation at every turn and if he can create a discussion around the first time we see Vegapunk in the flesh then he was successful in his trickery. It's probably just a robot in which he transferred his mind or an AI robot that he uses as proxy. Same thing with the fake-out death of Sabo in the previous chapter = shock value = discussions within the fanbase = hype for OP rises. |
KneelBeforeMeSep 22, 2022 10:08 AM
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| If Oda retcons Vegapunk to be a hot girl I honestly wouldn't mind lol. Beats the ol' "mad scientist who's 582 years old" trope 🤣 but I do feel like he really is an old guy using a hot young female bot body in his place. Whatever the case, we finally get introduced to someone who's name has come up time and again for years now throughout this story. I suspect a lot of lingering questions will be answered in the coming chapters. |
| People on MAL refuse to actually enjoy watching anime. Your taste in anime isn't a personality trait. Take me back to the days before MAL became infested with Twitter's favorite buzzwords. |
Oda can't wait a chapter before bringing a hottie back and adding 1 more hottie to the story (even tho thats pretty much a robot and not actual vegapunk) |
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| Looks like Oda's inner desires just came bursting out after the 4 year shackles of Wano finally breaking.. My man went no holds barred in just one chapter!!  |
| (☞ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)☞ YouTube @ The Pirate Collector ԅ( ͒ ͒ )ᕤ |
| Past few chapters have been sooo good, they really felt like old one piece :) |
| true,i really hope oda keeps the same level of writing for the entire final saga :}}}. |
| Didn't vegapunk in that flashback was shown as an old man ? Vegapunk mind transfer to a robot ?? Mei-o_Scarlett said: Danpmss said: Oh, I get it, you were being sarcastic. My bad. With Mikasa around I can never be so sure. kek is k mikasa doesnt come around until like saturday You are mentioning him like he is some pest ong |
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| "That's just how I look when I'm totally free" I love Luffy, I love One Piece, I love Oda man. That line packs so much of what make One Piece the masterpiece it is. There you have it, Oda completely flipping the script man, we've been sold the idea that Vegapunk is an old crippled man but here's a completely flipped version of that, I dig it, although, I still think there's a twist to it. |
| Alright wiki, time to mark this as the Egghead Island arc |
| Vegapunk is a girl Egghead is the next island I'm looking forward to franky this arc |
| can we give this arc a cooler name than egghead please, I don't want to have to say I caught up to One Piece by Egghead if anyone ever asks. |
| I am really curious as to what Luffy, Chopper, Jinbe and Bonny are going to find on the island... And ofc we haven't seen anything from last chapter, we'll have to wait another two weeks at least for that to continue |
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| Egghead Island at least looks kinda cool from what we saw in this chapter. Looks like a summer island while the island where Tashigi was seems like the winter island that the Thousand Sunny was getting close to before. Either way, the setting of the new arc isn't something predictable like Fullalead, Sphinx or Elbaf despite what some people were expecting. Hopefully this is a short arc like Zou given that there's no major antagonist on Egghead Island, that we know of anyway (no, I don't think Vegapunk will be a villain). |
| Pretty sure that's not the 'real' Vegapunk. There is a T/N on the first page with Vegapunk which says "old-timer speech", so it's most likely a clone, or assistant (has the number 2 on her suit), or even a daughter. Idk, we'll see. Vegapunk might soon spill all the secrets about devil fruits. Loved the chapter! |
| Heh, I always thought of Vegapunk as a short old man |
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| Vegapunk being old was also established in chapter 905, when Green Bull asked Fujitora "How's old Vegapunk doing?". However we really can't tell their gender since the japanese language doesn't distinguish easily between male and female, i doubt there is any previous indication about this in japanese, and any evidence you might point out about pronouns it's only an artifact of the translation. And if you look closely at that girl's left ear she has an antenna, which could suggest she's an android being controlled remotely. However it could also be she's the real Vegapunk and they transferred their consciousness into a new body. Also i was looking forward for an Elbaf arc so i'm a bit disappointed, but i hope we'll get an info dump about devil fruits from Vegapunk like Oda promised some time ago. |
NaughtyNoddy said: Heh, I always thought of Vegapunk as a short old man Why? We saw Vegapunk's silhouette before during CC's flashback, but nothing about that gave away Vegapunk's exact body size. We also saw part of Vegapunk's design when Kuma mentioned them on Thriller Bark, but nothing shown at that time implied that Vegapunk would be a short person. Someone on another board mentioned that Vegapunk might be an okama or a shapeshifter, which I actually prefer over the clone/offspring theory tbh. |
WematanyeSep 22, 2022 3:11 PM
| Btw, am I the only one who found the mecha shark double spread to be fucking amazing? Because that was eldritch as hell and awesome creppy. |
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