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Jul 7, 2022 6:44 PM
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While I enjoyed most episode 1, I can't ignore what's going on.

Season 1 already had the infamous, 100% nude scene. And now season 2 starts with a way too clear rape scene, then ends with a loli girl taking a shit next to the others, again, 100% unnecessarily.

There's strong fetish vibes going on and it really takes away from the otherwise beautiful scenes.

Expecting a lot of angry responses now, but I had to talk about it, sorry.
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Jul 7, 2022 6:52 PM
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Yes, the mangaka is a shameless pedophile. In his social networks he demonstrates it without any shame. I love Made in Abyss and that's why it hurts me so much to see so many totally unnecessary scenes like this.
Jul 7, 2022 6:53 PM
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Firstly, he ain't a pedophile lmao

Secondly, in what way is someone taking a dump "sexual"? Seems like your projecting pretty hard

Thirdly, you literally have Hisoka, a pedophile character as one of your favorites, so it's pretty funny of you to even take an issue with this lol
Jul 7, 2022 6:55 PM
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It's pretty well known that the mangaka has some very unfortunate fetishes that he incorporates too much.

Just gotta grit your teeth and get through it whenever it comes up since the rest of it is so damn good.
Jul 7, 2022 7:04 PM
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AFB_2003 said:
Firstly, he ain't a pedophile lmao

Secondly, in what way is someone taking a dump "sexual"? Seems like your projecting pretty hard

Thirdly, you literally have Hisoka, a pedophile character as one of your favorites, so it's pretty funny of you to even take an issue with this lol

First, yes he is a pedophile. His social networks prove it.

Second... Well, that already depends on each one. I also disliked it although I shouldn't necessarily consider it sexual.

Third, loving Hisoka doesn't mean you like that he's a pedophile; You can like him as a character but still not support what he does or not like those kinds of scenes of his.
Jul 7, 2022 7:04 PM
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i dont know anything about the manga author so i dunno if he should be called that but i have def been getting the vibes of an author putting in weird fetishes. same as when watching a nickeloden kids show for example and suddenly there are naked feet covering the screen yet again. tho i honestly just thought i was being overly sensitive so its good to know others also notice it
Jul 7, 2022 7:04 PM
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idc as long he makes a good story then we good
Jul 7, 2022 7:20 PM
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Anzuelo said:
AFB_2003 said:
Firstly, he ain't a pedophile lmao

Secondly, in what way is someone taking a dump "sexual"? Seems like your projecting pretty hard

Thirdly, you literally have Hisoka, a pedophile character as one of your favorites, so it's pretty funny of you to even take an issue with this lol

First, yes he is a pedophile. His social networks prove it.

Second... Well, that already depends on each one. I also disliked it although I shouldn't necessarily consider it sexual.

Third, loving Hisoka doesn't mean you like that he's a pedophile; You can like him as a character but still not support what he does or not like those kinds of scenes of his.

Let me guess, loli posting?

Because if so, kek
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Jul 7, 2022 7:28 PM
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AFB_2003 said:
Firstly, he ain't a pedophile lmao

Secondly, in what way is someone taking a dump "sexual"? Seems like your projecting pretty hard

Thirdly, you literally have Hisoka, a pedophile character as one of your favorites, so it's pretty funny of you to even take an issue with this lol


1.) People here claim differently.

2.) I'm not projecting, but you're definitely deflecting. Showiing an elaborate scene of a young girl taking a dump in front of others is the author's sexual fetish. If you absolutely have to do such thing happening for story purposes (yeah right ...), you could have done this scene begin with her saying "both" when she replied to "pee?", and then fade the screen to black for a moment, then return to the scene and show some character's blushing face, the end. Instead, the author decided to show everything in full detail at full length. He wanted that scene for his own enjoyment.

3.) Hisoka is a a character, he can be whatever and I still find him fun to watch. The scenes I criticize in Made in Abyss are not character -related, they're author-related. It's why I have no issue with Mushoku Tensei, because THE CHARACTER is a pedo. But here, a real person is putting his pedo fetishes on display. That makes me somewhat uncomfortable.
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Jul 7, 2022 7:31 PM
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No one condemn him for pedophile in Japan, and there are still a lot of manga fans focus on what mystery lie on the bottom of the abyss rather than tsukushi’s sexual preference, that proves it doesn’t matter so much and no one cares it. If you don’t like, you can just skip it
Jul 7, 2022 7:31 PM
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THANK YOU SOMEONE FINALLY SAID IT

this is a problem that greatly weighs down the entirety of the series and also creates a very bad watching experience.

Without all of that junk itd be stellar show. : )

Surprised i didnt see much talk about this sooner, you edgelords amaze me in the worst ways possible.
Jul 7, 2022 7:31 PM
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MyllerPhiem said:
AFB_2003 said:
Firstly, he ain't a pedophile lmao

Secondly, in what way is someone taking a dump "sexual"? Seems like your projecting pretty hard

Thirdly, you literally have Hisoka, a pedophile character as one of your favorites, so it's pretty funny of you to even take an issue with this lol


1.) People here claim differently.

2.) I'm not projecting, but you're definitely deflecting. Showiing an elaborate scene of a young girl taking a dump in front of others is the author's sexual fetish. If you absolutely have to do such thing happening for story purposes (yeah right ...), you could have done this scene begin with her saying "both" when she replied to "pee?", and then fade the screen to black for a moment, then return to the scene and show some character's blushing face, the end. Instead, the author decided to show everything in full detail at full length. He wanted that scene for his own enjoyment.

3.) Hisoka is a a character, he can be whatever and I still find him fun to watch. The scenes I criticize in Made in Abyss are not character -related, they're author-related. It's why I have no issue with Mushoku Tensei, because THE CHARACTER is a pedo. But here, a real person is putting his pedo fetishes on display. That makes me somewhat uncomfortable.

That poop scene was clearly done for gag reasons lol

Granted, it ain't a good gag, but still
Jul 7, 2022 7:32 PM
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(This is long but please read as I have genuine questions I want answered. I simply don’t understand your point of view).

For one learn how to spell paedophile before you accuse people of being one and secondly Rika wasn’t shown nude at all. She was covered up but are we just meant to think that children are never naked.

Also she was taking a shit in the background with fart sound effects. Nothing was shown it was presented as awkward and comedic. You think that’s some hidden paedophile message or something or hidden paedo porn?

Finally this show depicts absolutely horrific torture and abuse of children on a systematic level at the surface where they force the kids to work down the abyss despite it being painful and dangerous. And then Bondrewd abusing his power to round up orphan children have them horrifically experimented on and emotionally manipulated and tortured. That kid in season 2 ep 1 was also shown being tortured with a hot metal rod but it’s only sexual abuse you pick up on.

So all those (equally heinous crimes) do not convey the authors hidden feelings that he loves torturing and experimenting on children but a single rape scene (not actually shown) means he must actually really like that.

Horrible shit happens in fantasy worlds that aren’t modern because horrible shit like that happened in the real world in the past. It even happens now. In 1065 England, 10% of the population were female sex slaves and a lot were probably under 18. People would sell off there second or third daughters as they were expensive to keep alive and didn’t produce profit like sons did. They also did this to pay off debts against malicious nobleman and the higher classes. These were also children. If this stuff happened/happens in the real world, why is it happening and being depicted in a fantasy world so horrible?

Nothing explicit or sexual has been shown and it all has valid enough reasons in the form of genuine and unfiltered world building and world depth. So why is torture, murder, experimentation, mental and emotional abuse, systematic child abuse and child labour all okay to depict in media but sex crimes related to children just not allowed and the authors immediately a paedo? (Providing it isn’t explicit).
Jul 7, 2022 7:33 PM
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idc as long he makes a good story then we good

yea, people complain too much.
Jul 7, 2022 7:34 PM

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None of those are good reasons for calling him a literal pedo.

As far as I know, the r*pe scene in question is not supposed to be seen as "hot" or anything like that. It was meant to make the viewer feel uncomfortable in the first place. You can portray r*pe without trying to romanticize it.

And since when is shitting a sexual thing?

Honestly dude, maybe YOU'RE just the one who's sexualizing these scenes, and trying to pin the blame on the author. In other words, projection.
Jul 7, 2022 7:34 PM
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I agree that the first scene was unnecessary, but they didn't really show anything in full detail. I don't know any context about the mangaka, but that is disturbing if he really is a pedo irl. However, focusing on the story, humans are vile creatures, and this shit happens in real life. The scenes are not designed to arouse. They are designed to paint a dark and dismal tone for what life is like in the anarchy of the abyss

The pooping scene was slapstick comedy relief with fart sound effects, give me a break.
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Jul 7, 2022 8:08 PM
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Yeah apparently the manga is a lot worse with its depiction and the anime tones it down a decent bit.
Jul 7, 2022 8:13 PM

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I mean by this logic the author of Beserk is a pedo, the author of Monogatari, author of Nagatoro, and many more.

Might as well say that the author of Dress-Up Darling is a pedo as she draws a 15 year girl in a sexualized way.
Jul 7, 2022 8:23 PM

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his twitter doesn't show much aside from his usual style of drawing. I can see why people would think he's sketchy based on that but... have you ever seen HR Giger's art? You could make all sorts of assumptions about him too based on his creepy-ass drawings. I tend to think both of them are coming from a similar place artistically but who knows?
Jul 7, 2022 8:31 PM

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MyllerPhiem said:
While I enjoyed most episode 1, I can't ignore what's going on.

Season 1 already had the infamous, 100% nude scene. And now season 2 starts with a way too clear rape scene, then ends with a loli girl taking a shit next to the others, again, 100% unnecessarily.

There's strong fetish vibes going on and it really takes away from the otherwise beautiful scenes.

Expecting a lot of angry responses now, but I had to talk about it, sorry.


Ah, so he's moved on from loli piss and puke to rape and shitting. I stopped watching after season 1 because of this sort of crap that he keeps needlessly putting in to his work. Loli pisses herself multiple times (we even get to see the stain she made on her bedsheets the first time because...?), pukes at least twice (once on screen and we get to see the nice brown goop pour down at her feet -_- ), a pointlessly long scene where we get to watch and hear her suffer excruciating pain, another scene of her suffering pain where she...pees herself for a third time...*sigh*...and let's not forget the glorious scene where said loli is given a damn suppository. Why? Why do we need a scene where a 12-year-old girl gets administered a suppository?

When I finished watching the show, I couldn't believe how highly rated the series is. Even fans admit they're totally fine with everything I've mentioned and more. I've since realized it's because when cute shows turn dark = instant masterpiece. And the more messed up scenes/content the show has, the more it's beloved. The effect is magnified by thousands when child characters are used for the gruesome scenes, especially young girls. The author knows this and uses it to it's full effect. He gets to make his fetish cake and eat it too. So perhaps that makes him more of a genius than a pedo?
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This is already a logic that every time an author is creating a scene in a sexualized way, they're considered a pedo. They created it as a very disturbing watch for the audience in the first place anyway and it always has a meaning to it like revealing the dark shit reality behind whatever journey they're going ahead. Also, the "shitting" that is portrayed in this series is not even that explicit so I can't help but say that you're viewing that particular scene as a sexual way when it's not even that full of detail at all lol, they added some sound effect which I found it funny.
Jul 7, 2022 8:48 PM
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Unnecessarily... Maybe... but where else would you see something like this. It's just realistic.

And no the Mangaka is not a pedophile even tho his nude drawings are not really necessary.

But just for the poop scene to shit on the show is for me not understandable. If you have a problem with the show then just don't watch it. It currently has a 8.80 score and that's for a reason
Jul 7, 2022 8:59 PM

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It doesn't matter what the author was thinking while writing the story as long as your perception to it is limited to that. If the first thought that comes to your head is "The author is a pedo, who likes sexualizing everything" when you watch a lil girl getting killed or an adventurer girl taking a dump after holding it in for god knows how many hours inside a never ending elevator ride, it shows the immaturity and narrow mindedness you show towards it.
Jul 7, 2022 9:00 PM
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You have a shit fetish or something? Who the hell gets off to someone taking a dump. It’s not perverted or anything it’s normal. You wouldn’t think it was sexual if it was a grown man or teenage boy.
Jul 7, 2022 9:03 PM
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MyllerPhiem said:
While I enjoyed most episode 1, I can't ignore what's going on.

Season 1 already had the infamous, 100% nude scene. And now season 2 starts with a way too clear rape scene, then ends with a loli girl taking a shit next to the others, again, 100% unnecessarily.

There's strong fetish vibes going on and it really takes away from the otherwise beautiful scenes.

Expecting a lot of angry responses now, but I had to talk about it, sorry.

The made in abyss manga has actual child nudity so i know he’s a sped ped
Jul 7, 2022 9:05 PM

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These are lines on paper my guy. It's pretty stupid to accuse someone of being something awful over what they write/draw. People's work's don't always reflect them as a person.

Jul 7, 2022 9:07 PM

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MyllerPhiem said:
While I enjoyed most episode 1, I can't ignore what's going on.

Season 1 already had the infamous, 100% nude scene. And now season 2 starts with a way too clear rape scene, then ends with a loli girl taking a shit next to the others, again, 100% unnecessarily.

Yes MiA has many questionable scenes, however those two scenes are actually way more tame in the manga form, dunno why the anime made it more questionable, maybe the director is a pedophile?
Jul 7, 2022 9:47 PM
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Everybody is a pedophile. Junji Ito is also a demented psychopath
Jul 7, 2022 10:10 PM
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Anzuelo said:
AFB_2003 said:
Firstly, he ain't a pedophile lmao

Secondly, in what way is someone taking a dump "sexual"? Seems like your projecting pretty hard

Thirdly, you literally have Hisoka, a pedophile character as one of your favorites, so it's pretty funny of you to even take an issue with this lol

First, yes he is a pedophile. His social networks prove it.

Second... Well, that already depends on each one. I also disliked it although I shouldn't necessarily consider it sexual.

Third, loving Hisoka doesn't mean you like that he's a pedophile; You can like him as a character but still not support what he does or not like those kinds of scenes of his.

what social network u talking about? can u give me a link?
Jul 7, 2022 10:11 PM
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I've seen the authors twitter. What part of it makes him a pedo? He just draws sketches and posts them online...like seriously I'm kinda confused here. Are y'all just assuming or do you actually have proof cuz otherwise this is the dumbest thread ever made...
Jul 7, 2022 10:14 PM

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That's pretty nasty self projection right there.
Jul 7, 2022 10:24 PM
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Yeah, it’s 10x worse in the manga. The dude is a major creep, it’s a shame that he had to be the one to create such a great story
Jul 7, 2022 10:33 PM
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Funny enough in the Vietnamese war novel Tuổi thơ dữ dội, there’s a comedy scene of children taking a dump and trying to cover up the noise but I guess that’s also pedo content. If anything Reg popped a boner is way more indicative than this.

Another Twitter self projection strikes MAL again
Jul 7, 2022 10:40 PM
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Yeah, I feel like it kinda makes the show worse.
Jul 7, 2022 10:41 PM
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THANK YOU SOMEONE FINALLY SAID IT

this is a problem that greatly weighs down the entirety of the series and also creates a very bad watching experience.

Without all of that junk itd be stellar show. : )

Surprised i didnt see much talk about this sooner, you edgelords amaze me in the worst ways possible.

Definitely Agree 100%
Jul 7, 2022 11:01 PM
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AFB_2003 said:
Firstly, he ain't a pedophile lmao

Secondly, in what way is someone taking a dump "sexual"? Seems like your projecting pretty hard

Thirdly, you literally have Hisoka, a pedophile character as one of your favorites, so it's pretty funny of you to even take an issue with this lol

Isn’t your favorite character hijoka???
Jul 7, 2022 11:41 PM
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I mean by this logic the author of Beserk is a pedo, the author of Monogatari, author of Nagatoro, and many more.

Might as well say that the author of Dress-Up Darling is a pedo as she draws a 15 year girl in a sexualized way.

I mean yes, Nagatoro's author litteraly is a pedo (made hentai of teenagers)
Jul 7, 2022 11:51 PM
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MyllerPhiem said:
While I enjoyed most episode 1, I can't ignore what's going on.

Season 1 already had the infamous, 100% nude scene. And now season 2 starts with a way too clear rape scene, then ends with a loli girl taking a shit next to the others, again, 100% unnecessarily.

There's strong fetish vibes going on and it really takes away from the otherwise beautiful scenes.

Expecting a lot of angry responses now, but I had to talk about it, sorry.

if that's how you View those scenes, then that's a you problem I guess
Jul 8, 2022 12:37 AM
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unnecessary thread i would say...
Jul 8, 2022 1:24 AM
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So the author is a pedophile because he draw a girl taking a shit and etc, wouldn't be Togashi one too for drawing a literal pedophile character and wenting as far as drawing the guy having orgasms and expressing sexual desires over a young kid? You have that character as favorite, aren't you a pedophile too? :P
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3 out of 7 of your favorite character are minors. Are you a pedo? And Berserk as one of your favorites manga? With those many rape scenes? Are you also a rapist!?
Jul 8, 2022 1:59 AM

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To anyone trying to claim he's not a pedo, could you please explain why most of the manga volumes include nude sexually suggestive drawings of the child characters? These drawings appear on the final page of each volume as an extra and are not a part of the story. Strange thing to include in your manga if you're not a pedo.

I love Made in Abyss in spite of all this, but you've gotta be crazy to deny the fact that the author is very likely a pedophile.
Jul 8, 2022 2:02 AM

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The story is dark and may feel sickening for some audiences. But I like the show because it oozes out something different unlike most shows I seen. As long as the story continues to be good and we have some good music, I’m happy enough.
Jul 8, 2022 2:10 AM
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I always loved this logic. Interesting you have a problem with children being vaguely naked for 3 frames because that’s BAD and otherwise the show would show the killing, torturing and suffering of said children so well. The double standards lmao
Jul 8, 2022 2:15 AM
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To anyone trying to claim he's not a pedo, could you please explain why most of the manga volumes include nude sexually suggestive drawings of the child characters? These drawings appear on the final page of each volume as an extra and are not a part of the story. Strange thing to include in your manga if you're not a pedo.

I love Made in Abyss in spite of all this, but you've gotta be crazy to deny the fact that the author is very likely a pedophile.

By that logic so is miyazaki, togashi or nisio.
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Rubraformica said:
To anyone trying to claim he's not a pedo, could you please explain why most of the manga volumes include nude sexually suggestive drawings of the child characters? These drawings appear on the final page of each volume as an extra and are not a part of the story. Strange thing to include in your manga if you're not a pedo.

I love Made in Abyss in spite of all this, but you've gotta be crazy to deny the fact that the author is very likely a pedophile.

By that logic so is miyazaki, togashi or nisio.


??? Did you even read my post? Togashi and Miyazaki don't do anything comparable to what I'm talking about.

Sure, Hisoka, for example, is a creepy pedo. He's also one of the most evil characters in HxH. Him being a creep to Gon and Killua is always portrayed as a negative thing.

In the MiA manga, the author includes loli porn at the end of almost every volume for no other reason than to be pornagraphic/sexually arousing. These drawings are not being portrayed negatively in the broader context of a story. Hisoka's creepy actions in HxH are. That's the difference.
Jul 8, 2022 2:41 AM

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Eh, as long as he doesn't take it out on real kids then it's no big deal. I personally don't mind degenerate stuff in my stories so it doesn't bother me. Plus, other stories like Berserk for example also have questionable and graphic things in it that sometimes don't add anything (horse scene and Schierke nudity), but no one is bothered by them at all. So, why is it a problem here?
Jul 8, 2022 2:44 AM
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I found the rape and torture scenes uncomfortable and I didn’t expect to see it in the first scene. However the rest of it was so beautiful. I expect it to be dark and I’m sure there will be uncomfortable scenes but the good outweighs the bad in this case
Jul 8, 2022 3:03 AM
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So if the author makes characters die, he’s a bloody murderer right? Reread what you said and let that sink in.

It’s just fiction.


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I don't understand why these people be like "oh it's my favorite anime" "i like this series" etc etc, but fcking accusing the author as a pedo. If you don't like what he's doing to his own story then just shut up! Nothing's gonna change, even if you report him to a local japanese police for drawing a loli character they won't send him straight to prison cause it's just a drawing, a bunch of line, and ink! Then what if he's a real pedo? You gonna stop watching MiA? Make another thread about it and feel good about yourself? Make a tweet about it? I just don't understand what's the point of this kinda thread.
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