| Has anybody been in a position where for a time they were among the very best at a certain game, but then, no matter how hard they tried they began to regress? This has happened to me over the last few years, at first I thought other players were just having massive growths in their own skill, but then I realized it was actually myself who was falling back through the ranks, from top 50, to top 100, to barely even top 1000. I mostly feel as if my eyes are slowing down, I don't see things on screen quickly enough, and I react more slowly when I do see them. Playing is such a downer now that I barely even do it. So my question is if anyone has been in this situation: how do you "retire" your competitive attitude and enjoy playing a game without an expectation of success? Is it possible? Or am I just finished? |
| I felt that sometimes and it was probably because I stopped playing games for long periods of time and my skill naturally devolved. |
| I've stopped playing most games competitively and even when I did play competitively I barely took it too seriously. For example a few years back was playing CSGO often and was MGE in Oceania [Which is basically a LEM in NA/European servers] and also did a ton of scrims and competed in various tournaments including CGA. CSGO got boring after a while and quite for a year or so and anytime I come back my skills are of course a bit rusty but if I played again for a month straight I'm sure I'd be playing the same as back then. So while not really "regressing" permanently it's still a form of regression due to a lack of play. As of right now I only play FPS games casually [which I still top almost every game surprisingly] and instead play more of beat saber [which I'm 250 or so in all of oceania] and single player games or mmos. |
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| I think I've once played some competitive games and I don't feel like I take it seriously but I did lose up some of my spirit my skills after not playing for a while due to exams and stuff but I did still have some game sense. |
| I get that if you stop playing for a while then your skills decrease but what I was talking about is different from that. Like I was playing as much as ever but my skills just went down, either due to slower reactions or smth else. And no matter how much I practiced/played I couldn't get back to where I was before. |
| Maybe play less competitive games for awhile. If you're too stressed, it inhibits your enjoyment. I've been a gamer since the early 1990s and am not terribly picky. I can enjoy most types of games. I'm phenomenal at some and sucky at others. The important thing is that I play for my own enjoyment. (I'm repeating that word for a reason.) I've never had my skills regress...but my performance has improved with practice and better hardware. |
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| I played every season of Overwatch competitive until season 17 and the last one I took part in was season 23. I was a solid diamond who dipped in and out of Master ranked player but now it’s just too much hassle and too easy to lose points. Looking at the top ranked players I see that there are way fewer grandmasters across the board anyway so you are right, OP. There are other factors to consider though such as burnout, boredom, patches, developers letting the game stagnate and announcing overwatch 2 but it’s still not going to be released any time soon. Other video games are just cash grabs nowadays. |
| I had this happen. I was a big dik 360 no scope on halo pc in the good ol days 10 years ago but now I cannot play shit. I got worse more than I already am at games even over the past few years. I just figured it was wear and tear from stress and getting older |
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| yeah but mainly because i don't practice and i don't care anymore. |
deg said: reaction time and reflexes decreases as we get older, thats the reason professional esports players retire when they hit like the age of 30+ They retire because it's an awful job and there's no reason to keep grinding it. The body doesn't just decide to fuck you up for no reason just for existing and getting older. We only decrease in performance by being stagnating, it's not supposed to happen naturally, you are supposed to improve faster then the rate of speed that you are dying. |
| adopt a learning mindset and do not be concerned about outcomes life is filled with ups and downs, and so is gaming. you win some and you lose some right? and you learn with every experience, win or loss. i would argue that you learn more by losses than wins. it is very important how you handle the ups and downs. |
deg said: everybody goes old and will reach their prime or peak at some point then it all goes down hill afterwards That's not how aging works. Natural aging like how it is freaking supposed to be: -Oxygen damages your cells and they are repaired slower than the rate of damage, this will kill you in a few billion breathes or roughly 80-124 years. -Crap food and pollution damages your cell speeding up the natural aging, lowering your lifespan from 80-124 years to 58-79 years. -The sun damages your skin making you look older. Getting weaker muscles or reflexes, weaker eyes.. that crap is not natural, that's crap you did to yourself by being inactive, even if you were immortal and not aging, if you don't train and never did any activity in your life you will slowly lose muscle until you reach a point where you ankles and back hurt from just standing up. It has nothing to do with aging. learn muscle hygien, eyesight hygien, mental hygiene... use discipline in your life and you will realize that it is not freaking normal to have back pains at 65 years old. 80 years ago a 70 years old man had the same ammount of testosterone of a youngster of our days, it goes against nature to be degraded in those pathetic ways. |
FeirceiDec 13, 2021 12:23 AM
deg said: Your brain’s reaction time peaks at age 24, study finds https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/brains-reaction-time-peaks-age-24-study-finds yeah and men peak puberty at 16 years old, does that mean at after 16 their dicks start shrinking? The female brain peaks development at 3 years of age, does that mean females get more and more stupid every passing year? Reaction times can be trained and you are supposed to train them, they literally train pilots to improve their reaction times in the military and most of them are over the age of 24. Just because someone has reached it's natural peaking potential it doesn't mean you can't train to maintain it or improve it. Learn to actually read data before using it to defend your cause. |
deg said: Feircei said: yeah and men peak puberty at 16 years old, does that mean at after 16 their dicks start shrinking? The female brain peaks development at 3 years of age, does that mean females get more and more stupid every passing year? Reaction times can be trained and you are supposed to train them, they literally train pilots to improve their reaction times in the military and most of them are over the age of 24. Just because someone has reached it's natural peaking potential it doesn't mean you can't train to maintain it or improve it. Learn to actually read data before using it to defend your cause. its averages thats what science is, science is not about absolutes sure there are exceptions to the rule ''The typical challenges in studying real world behavior are exacerbated in the study of aging, however, as almost all natural task environments are rife with structural regularities that aging individuals could use to compensate for cognitive decline. In many cases, age will presumably allow for skill development that is more pronounced than any age-related decline associated with the skill. For example, academic psychologists seem to be most productive at 40 years of age'' from the link you posted |
| also ''suggesting that any earlier age-related decline is trumped by skill development. Unfortunately, the simple lab based tasks used in most studies remove any possibility for compensatory strategies, and thus obfuscate the cognitive system's natural compensatory capacities. '' Sorry I'm reading it in pieces as I'm training |
yeah and gamers can either do the same thing over and over and over and over again until they reach a freaking burnout and start declining their skills. Or they could train their reflexes the same way a powerlifter trains their strength. In DRUG FREE athletes strength doesn't peak, it goes up with age if the athelete keeps training and maintaining their health. Reflexes are just muscles+ cooridantion |
You = False analogies and bad understanding of data Me = Your freaking link literally says you are wrong and that I'm right ''suggesting that any earlier age-related decline is trumped by skill development.. '' your own link Also ever heard of the fact that most people are already married by the age of 30 years and have children, thus that's why the lower the grind on their career? Or maybe adult males don't want to be clowns all their lives, they don't want to spend their lifetime entertaining children? Most people watching Esports are by definition manchilds or actual children. Clowns retire soon too, most people that entertain as a job retire soon. |
FeirceiDec 13, 2021 1:39 AM
| That depends on several factors. First check, if the MS and FPS are in an acceptable range and that you don't have spike lags. For better performance, using Ethernet cable instead of WiFi is always recommended Also test with a few people if the range of the attacks and the timings are still behaving the way that is familiar to you. Sadly, it happens with games where they end up changing the engine that your attack or you being attacked behaves differently from before Once you have ruled differences in technical behavior or adjusted to the current changes, check if your decrease of performance results from: - slower reaction times - poorer strategy Usually, even with a slower reaction time, you can still outperform others if you have the skill advantage from experience. But also note that others may have become smarter as well, particularly when common tricks are being shown and trained by most other players. Plus, if you are known to be a good player from before, some might have seen you play and seen through your playing style Also, last but not least, try to feel relaxed and enjoy playing |
deg said: again we are talking about video games where reaction times are needed so what skill development they need to compensate for decline of reaction time? Reaction time is a skill that can be trained. Military pilots literally play mini games on digital devices to train their reaction times to shoot down the enemy aircraft before they are being shot down. if you do the same shit over and over you will stagnate and stagnation leads to degradation, but if you actually try to improve then you will overcome stalls. Study neuroplasticity, the science of the brain reshaping itself and adapting over the course of years. -You can train your eyes to see faster -You can train your brain to think faster -You can train your automatic muscular responses to be faster combine them all = faster reactions The reason kids struggle reading one page of a book in 2 minutes and an adult can read it less than 30 seconds isn't some magic, it's because their brains adapted for reading over the course of years, they see faster , the muscles of their eyes move faster. An avid reader can do over a 1000 eye movements in 60 seconds. do you even watch professional esports? I gamble regularly, ofcourse I watch esports to bet on, mainly CS-Go, league ad dota2 |
FeirceiDec 13, 2021 9:53 AM
| I stopped playing online games earlier this year and I have to say it's done wonders. I don't play games a lot anywho but it's nice that when I do, it's not some toxic pile of shite anymore. Shame about War Thunder going downhill though, loved all the cool tanks you could play with. @deg I'd just leave it if I were you lol |
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| I’ve definitely gotten shittier at a lot of games surprisingly, but I don’t really care. Playing a game competitively or with the aims of winning takes all the fun out of playing. |
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| Man I remember when I used to go New Game++++ on Dark Souls 3 but now I hardly even play any games anymore. Now I just have an old game on my computer |
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| My gaming skills regressed because I stopped being competitive. Being a League of Legends player, I stopped caring and playing ranked because it's no longer a game you can win on your own anymore like in the early days. It's way harder to 1v9 every single game with how much Riot Games is pandering NA to get them a chance to win a World Championship with all these changes that give the losing team artifical advantages. |
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| Never been in this kind of situation as my gaming skills are the same as before, the only factor is if I am getting worse in one or two game is just because I don't have that much time as in past to keep myself on some kind of level, as it happened in osu and mount and blade games, because of not having enough time I can't hold 5k + ranks etc, but I am still able to click, to react, to move, to perform at the same level I am used to, the problem is that everyone else were progressing much more faster than I can right now x). In Nutshell: Still good at quick games as Audiosurf 2 ninja turbo Still good at shooters as Serious sams, Doom and fps mp games as Call of Duty series Still good enough/average in dark souls like games Still good/above average at Mount and Blade games Still decent in League of legends, Tft and Legends of Runeterra. Got worse in osu Got very bad in RTS games Still terrible in 2d/3d fighters games as Mortal Kombat the main problem is that I am getting easily bored by games after 1-2 months as there is no content, the enemies usually are weaker/decent so I am not happy as in some games (not all, some of them) I can't feel any kind of challenge. Maybe your problem would touch me in 10-25+ years when I will be getting old. Edit (not a pro but still doing something what people might call "good" or impressive whatever) Posted screens and videos just in case to share what is my level which isn't the best, and isn't the worst, in case if what I wrote might give you a wrong view of what I wanted to say, as someone might tought "Oh so you're saying all of that, I guess you might be a pro or e-sport player right?" if anyone thought like this, than it is true only for mount and blade (2011-2016 warband player in top 1-3 polish clan, from when bannerlord came out, 2020 - 2021 in top 1 world clan, been for a while the leader of the 2nd squad, right now the game packet loss is making me unable to play, so I am just a member of the dm community but not playing competitve until tw repairs their game) : |
ZettaikenDec 13, 2021 2:30 PM
| I am so ass now at Smash. Granted I played the 64, Gamecube, and Wii one religiously and haven't really touched it for a solid almost 10 years so that def has an effect on it but I used to go to competitions and I was like 7-13 year old kicking 20+ year old asses. Some games I still retained my skill at whenever I pick up Gears of War or now picking up Halo Infinite after not playing Halo since 4. |
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Dragevard said: My gaming skills regressed because I stopped being competitive. Being a League of Legends player, I stopped caring and playing ranked because it's no longer a game you can win on your own anymore like in the early days. It's way harder to 1v9 every single game with how much Riot Games is pandering NA to get them a chance to win a World Championship with all these changes that give the losing team artifical advantages. then they are doing a terrible job because NA is still a joke even with importing whole leagues |
| I'm also not very good at playing Sekiro. I'm more accustomed to Ninja Gaiden and Nioh, not Tenchu. |
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| i think you're just rusty or not as motivated as you once were. take it from me who has nerve damaged due to an illness i was born with, my body is degrading day by day due to said illness. i expected my gaming abilities to downgrade because of it but it didn't i play games competitively and even took a year off due to physical therapy when i took a year off of gaming i noticed my rank go down but after 2 months of trying to go back up i did manage to climb back up to my old rank. games i play competitively are Dota 2 League of legends CSGO well formely i quit fps games somewhat competitively are BDO since i like pvp Elsword:due to its pvp ranking system somewhat genshin impact: i like abyss alot and i like using characters people hate and clear abyss with it. |
| I got worse at fighting games but I got really good at soulsborne games. Mind you I got to the top floors on guilty gear strive but stopped playing it because everyone just plays the same characters. |
AmityBlight said: Skidskrrrr said: I got worse at fighting games but I got really good at soulsborne games. Mind you I got to the top floors on guilty gear strive but stopped playing it because everyone just plays the same characters. Guilty gear strive hella easy tho. I was top floor and got all trophies in one day. Just play Sol and you'll make it to Celestial floors |
AmityBlight said: Skidskrrrr said: I got worse at fighting games but I got really good at soulsborne games. Mind you I got to the top floors on guilty gear strive but stopped playing it because everyone just plays the same characters. Guilty gear strive hella easy tho. I was top floor and got all trophies in one day. Just play Sol and you'll make it to Celestial floors |
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