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Oct 8, 2021 7:33 PM
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Basically the title, how do you view yourself and why?
Oct 8, 2021 7:58 PM
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I'm alive, so I'm obviously winning.


My biggest regret: Reading all 200+ chapters of Kanojo, Okarishimasu
Oct 8, 2021 9:17 PM
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A mixture of both.

There are times I am a loser and times I am a winner. At work I am a winner because the community loves me and I am well respected. In my personal life I am a loser since my low self esteem has led me place my personal value in my sexual marketability.

Coincidentally I have been thinking about this alot today so replying to this thread was easy haha.



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Oct 8, 2021 9:20 PM
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I thought that everyone here's a loser 'cause they like anime.
Oct 8, 2021 9:21 PM
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i'd say i'm a loser who is the prize of a winner. i see that i only have more worth when it's through someone else's eyes in their lives, but i view my own self with pretty low self-esteem. so i can never think of me as a "winner". does that make sense?

edit: surprisingly _nette_ explained the situation better than me lol
Oct 8, 2021 9:23 PM
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I'm a winner, and I know I'm cool.


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Oct 8, 2021 9:23 PM
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I see myself as a loser, obviously... I'm not good at anything
Oct 8, 2021 9:43 PM
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A winner

I know I'm capable of doing impressive things and I have confidence in myself




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Oct 8, 2021 10:22 PM
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loser since im a stereotype weeb of being mentally ill, fat and NEET
Oct 8, 2021 10:31 PM
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ACasualViewer said:
Basically the title, how do you view yourself and why?


Loser, I failed at the lottery of life. No job, bad physical and mental health, etc.
Oct 8, 2021 11:07 PM
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Winner because I got pretty lucky in life with good health and a good family. Although maybe I can be considered a loser because I like anime

Oct 9, 2021 2:15 AM
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A winner cause I tend to be more of an optimist than a pessimist but I do have my feel like a total loser days
Oct 9, 2021 5:53 AM
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Winner.

Winner, winner, veggie dinner!~ Simply for the fact I have, and continue to make a positive difference in the lives of others. That's not all, of course. I'm also grateful for my confidence, happiness, self-esteem, and amazing loved ones (family and friends) a lot of people wish they had and would kill for.

It may have took some time to get to where I am now, but hey, I'm here aren't I? That's what counts.

I'm still in the game, but just because I carry myself that way doesn't mean I've always won. That's just basic statistics. I've had my fair share of L's, but despite 'em, I'm still standing.

These days I just have ambition, and I feel like I have nothing to fear
Oct 9, 2021 6:06 AM
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sadly, i am objectivly a loser right now
Oct 9, 2021 8:33 AM

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I have a decent job, and is basically a labour aristocrat. So, winner I guess?
Oct 9, 2021 9:14 AM

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I am a mix of both. Only a loser since I can't fucking have the motivation to do anything.

Most of the time I am a winner since sometimes my drive allows me to push to ridiculous limits.

Also, I don't get the "losers" at times. Not that I see anything here to suggest such, but sometimes people will call themselves a loser and have someone pander them telling them "it is ok, you are an amazing", like sure, the positivity is respected, but the reaction some can make when they suddenly say "no-no I will never be good 😭😭😭" is just annoying to me. To me, that seems like the "loser" is truly a loser in that they don't (yet) have the means required to lift themselves off such and just depend on others to create their worth for them.

This was me in the past but now I am slowly building myself to actually be an optimal version of myself.

You are only a loser when your defeat requires others efforts to lift you up before your own.

Then again, imagine having such binary labels to your name without even factoring the many different values that exist in life.
NextUniverseOct 9, 2021 9:22 AM
Oct 9, 2021 11:38 AM

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A winner.

I am aware I didn’t do anything EXTRAORDINARY. But knowing my life. The mere idea of me living normally is a winning situation.
Oct 9, 2021 2:16 PM

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A winner, especially at debates on MAL; my opponents are so ashamed that they all end up deleting their replies.

One would expect that a man of wit answers questions and does not only asks them.
Oct 9, 2021 2:56 PM
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_Nette_ said:
A mixture of both.

There are times I am a loser and times I am a winner. At work I am a winner because the community loves me and I am well respected. In my personal life I am a loser since my low self esteem has led me place my personal value in my sexual marketability.

Coincidentally I have been thinking about this alot today so replying to this thread was easy haha.
This applies to me, too. Except the sexual marketability part. Lately I've been feeling a little insecure work-wise too, with the feeling that I might be left behind while the others around me keep progressing. That would be a shame if I started feeling loser-ish at work too.
Oct 9, 2021 4:13 PM

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Neither. Because that kind of mindset is unhealthy I just live my life. There is no value in egotism or self pity.
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"among monsters and humans, there are only two types.
Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice
“Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume
“Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus

Oct 10, 2021 9:15 AM
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I always come out on top no matter what so winner.

Oct 11, 2021 2:04 AM
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im a loser no doubt about it, no friends or any connections besides my mom. plus i have a chronic asthma disease and a dwarf stature standing at 153 cm. not to mention my boring quiet personality, im not fun to be around with.
Oct 11, 2021 10:47 AM

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I don't fucking know but I'm grateful for what I have.
Oct 11, 2021 2:37 PM
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hm, I'm not sure, but my username might speak for me.
Oct 11, 2021 3:09 PM
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Loser

20yo khhv NEET, but will change that soon, at least the neet part

And I a bad at almost everything
Oct 11, 2021 5:40 PM

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Winner. I am generally happy in day to day life and have a supportive family and friends to talk to whenever I need. I have little to no plans for the future yet, but I'm fairly confident it will all work out soon.

I have some brains, some money, comfort, everything I need, and everything I want really. I'm grateful for all of my privileges and if I was so self-absorbed to call myself a loser in such a good situation that would be utterly pathetic of me.
Oct 13, 2021 9:18 PM

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loser for sure. you expected nothing but a miserable life when you are dumb, poor and lazy. I can't have the desire to win. Life threw me to the floor but I never made a point of getting up and fighting. staying on the floor doing nothing is easier, less stressful and that's fine.
Oct 13, 2021 9:30 PM
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I don't get this classification but you people sure have reasons to be your unique yourself.
As for me, I shall just be silently watching over all of you.
Oct 13, 2021 10:12 PM

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Winner of course. When I lose I lose to myself. Sometimes losing is necessary for growth. Not everyone is born great at everything.
Oct 13, 2021 10:25 PM

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I'll consider that question on my death bed lmao

One can go from a loser to a winner and then back down to a loser or an even bigger loser, who knows what you will be at the end.
Oct 13, 2021 10:46 PM

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Loser forever, obvious.ㅤㅤㅤ



Oct 14, 2021 12:56 AM

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Op reminded me of this gem, but no I do not consider myself a winner

Oct 14, 2021 2:03 AM
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I don't care since I like my life the way it is and I'm not willing to play along with a capitalist mindset of who's a loser and who's not, if we talk about success and all.

But I mean, I know I lived through my worst times, I have a bunch of great people in my life, and a part time job. Won't expect much more.
Might not earn high amounts of money, but I got free time for my hobbies and people around me.
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Oct 15, 2021 12:25 AM
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Amirul5Ft0 said:
im a loser no doubt about it, no friends or any connections besides my mom. plus i have a chronic asthma disease and a dwarf stature standing at 153 cm. not to mention my boring quiet personality, im not fun to be around with.

I thought about replying to you again over it, because I've seen you more often saying these things.

You know, you need to have standards and boundaries for the people around you. If you let people walk over and you are fine with everyone, you will only find "friends' taking advantage of you and then letting you fall.

And women think you might be okay with everyone, so you dont like her as the person she is anyway.
Also at least some self-confidence is attractive for most people.

It looks like your real problem is very low self-esteem and no expectations for the people around you to treat you decently, not the other stuff you mentioned a lot.
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_Maneki-Neko_ said:
Amirul5Ft0 said:
im a loser no doubt about it, no friends or any connections besides my mom. plus i have a chronic asthma disease and a dwarf stature standing at 153 cm. not to mention my boring quiet personality, im not fun to be around with.

I thought about replying to you again over it, because I've seen you more often saying these things.

You know, you need to have standards and boundaries for the people around you. If you let people walk over and you are fine with everyone, you will only find "friends' taking advantage of you and then letting you fall.

And women think you might be okay with everyone, so you dont like her as the person she is anyway.
Also at least some self-confidence is attractive for most people.

It looks like your real problem is very low self-esteem and no expectations for the people around you to treat you decently, not the other stuff you mentioned a lot.
hard to have any self confidence when im a midget who struggles making friends from both gender. (even tall irl guys dislike short irl guys, the real world isnt a fiction world that everybody gets along despite their differences) i should just be happy living alone and stop whining in an online forum, being seen with me is embarassing anyway.
Oct 15, 2021 2:53 AM
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I view myself as chaotic neutral. I want to give others a chance who have it tough and see the top fall down. But at the same time i couldn't care less
Oct 15, 2021 5:33 PM
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Amirul5Ft0 said:
_Maneki-Neko_ said:

I thought about replying to you again over it, because I've seen you more often saying these things.

You know, you need to have standards and boundaries for the people around you. If you let people walk over and you are fine with everyone, you will only find "friends' taking advantage of you and then letting you fall.

And women think you might be okay with everyone, so you dont like her as the person she is anyway.
Also at least some self-confidence is attractive for most people.

It looks like your real problem is very low self-esteem and no expectations for the people around you to treat you decently, not the other stuff you mentioned a lot.
hard to have any self confidence when im a midget who struggles making friends from both gender. (even tall irl guys dislike short irl guys, the real world isnt a fiction world that everybody gets along despite their differences) i should just be happy living alone and stop whining in an online forum, being seen with me is embarassing anyway.

Sorry, I didn't want to mean it that way.

I mean it like: you sound like you always beat up yourself so much over things that aren't a neck-breaker, and I just wanted to say that they aren't a neck-breaker.

Also, just want let you know that I have sometimes quite severe asthma too, especially in the last two years when I had to wear the mask for too long and in a stuffy rooms. There is not such a big deal about that.

In school I experienced quite a lot bullying too, because of my family situation at home and other stuff, including that, but you shouldn't kiss up to these people, who make fun of you in an always degrading way.
Then I always found a bunch of other people I thought were worth spending time with and feeling affection towards them, who I got along with and got closer to them.

As a kid at the end of elemantary school or so, I tried to make bullies liking me for a semester or so, but then I just hated myself more for this, because you know that you are dragged around like their dog then, and not their equally treated friend.

Tl;dr: Just wanted to say it's not worth it and when you begin to demand others to respect your boundaries and you are not always downgrading yourself, at least a lot of people will respect these more too.
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_Maneki-Neko_ said:
Amirul5Ft0 said:
hard to have any self confidence when im a midget who struggles making friends from both gender. (even tall irl guys dislike short irl guys, the real world isnt a fiction world that everybody gets along despite their differences) i should just be happy living alone and stop whining in an online forum, being seen with me is embarassing anyway.

Sorry, I didn't want to mean it that way.

I mean it like: you sound like you always beat up yourself so much over things that aren't a neck-breaker, and I just wanted to say that they aren't a neck-breaker.

Also, just want let you know that I have sometimes quite severe asthma too, especially in the last two years when I had to wear the mask for too long and in a stuffy rooms. There is not such a big deal about that.

In school I experienced quite a lot bullying too, because of my family situation at home and other stuff, including that, but you shouldn't kiss up to these people, who make fun of you in an always degrading way.
Then I always found a bunch of other people I thought were worth spending time with and feeling affection towards them, who I got along with and got closer to them.

As a kid at the end of elemantary school or so, I tried to make bullies liking me for a semester or so, but then I just hated myself more for this, because you know that you are dragged around like their dog then, and not their equally treated friend.

Tl;dr: Just wanted to say it's not worth it and when you begin to demand others to respect your boundaries and you are not always downgrading yourself, at least a lot of people will respect these more too.
if height wasnt a neckbreaker i would have gotten a real life friend by now, i dont think my personality is terrible. i dont smoke, never drank alcohol drinks and i hardly gets angry at other people. my physical stature is uninspiring for sure though, i should go to a gym in the future. maybe i will get friends when im fit.

asthma is a crappy disease, sorry to read that you have also experienced it.

you did nothing bad to apologize, i should be the one apologizing instead for wasting your time replying to a loser like me.
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Amirul5Ft0 said:
_Maneki-Neko_ said:

Sorry, I didn't want to mean it that way.

I mean it like: you sound like you always beat up yourself so much over things that aren't a neck-breaker, and I just wanted to say that they aren't a neck-breaker.

Also, just want let you know that I have sometimes quite severe asthma too, especially in the last two years when I had to wear the mask for too long and in a stuffy rooms. There is not such a big deal about that.

In school I experienced quite a lot bullying too, because of my family situation at home and other stuff, including that, but you shouldn't kiss up to these people, who make fun of you in an always degrading way.
Then I always found a bunch of other people I thought were worth spending time with and feeling affection towards them, who I got along with and got closer to them.

As a kid at the end of elemantary school or so, I tried to make bullies liking me for a semester or so, but then I just hated myself more for this, because you know that you are dragged around like their dog then, and not their equally treated friend.

Tl;dr: Just wanted to say it's not worth it and when you begin to demand others to respect your boundaries and you are not always downgrading yourself, at least a lot of people will respect these more too.
if height wasnt a neckbreaker i would have gotten a real life friend by now, i dont think my personality is terrible. i dont smoke, never drank alcohol drinks and i hardly gets angry at other people. my physical stature is uninspiring for sure though, i should go to a gym in the future. maybe i will get friends when im fit.

asthma is a crappy disease, sorry to read that you have also experienced it.

you did nothing bad to apologize, i should be the one apologizing instead for wasting your time replying to a loser like me.

How do these things make a terrible personality?
I drink sometimes, I smoke sometimes and when I get angry at people, I tell them at some point, if they overdo it. How is any of this terrible?
If you are angry at someone, tell them. You are scared that people will like you less, if you do, I think? Often, they just respect you more than people, who take every shit.
How are these things requirements for a good personality anyway?

I just say I've got a collegue, he's barely taller than me and I'm 1.55. He's in a long term relationship with a great woman. And no, he's not rich or anything. They just met in a chemistry lesson in university and got to know each other then.

I know, online a lot of bimbos care about such superficial things too much, but a lot of other people don't.
Also it's easy to tell someone about your ideal partner, but the person you fall in love, with will almost always be different than a dumb idealization.

Hm yes, it's at least a pain when you try doing sports for a bit longer or wear the mask too long. I take medication in the morning and before doing sports, but it's icky.

Anyway, nah don't say that. If I wouldn't want to, I won't. Since I answer you, I want to and don't waste my time.
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Amirul5Ft0 said:
im a loser no doubt about it, no friends or any connections besides my mom. plus i have a chronic asthma disease and a dwarf stature standing at 153 cm. not to mention my boring quiet personality, im not fun to be around with.

Do not listen to the blatant virtue signaling of that person fren, you're problem is definitely your height
People will not give you the basic respect and treatment they give you to a tall or regular sized man and women
And of course, you're possibility of finding a romantic partner is slim and one that actually settles with you is woefully slim
But you can train yourself to not want these things, develop values and philosophy such that this doesn't bother you at all. In my opinion, you can live a happier life than the average person if you develop the right temperament,
People are shallow as shit and this is a fact of life and you should not expect anything from them
Oct 16, 2021 3:05 AM

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I win at losing, so... both I suppose?
Oct 24, 2021 9:11 PM

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A winner cause in my life I found a lot of good and loyal friends,have a good family and currently working for a body like baki's

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