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Aug 14, 2021 7:30 AM
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The main selling point of isekai is that an mc leaves his boring shitty unfulfilling mundane life to go into another world and start from scratch with various abilities handed to him and beautiful girls.

In the past stories about going to another world had the main objective of going back to the regular world, most main characters fought so they could return to their normal life.

Memes made by anime fans on how their life is garbage are very popular.

Also the fact that the trend of having teens and adult virgins as the mc may tells us something. Adult virgin main characters like the Jobless Reincarnation and Slime anime may tell us about a societal problem in Japan.


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Keep calm and let Darwinism do his job. If anything having something to relate their lives to might end up proving to be the savior instead. For example there are some that say that anime lolis actually help reduce the number of pedophilia related crimes because they now have an outlet for their mental illness to channel into, the same with Isekai.
Aug 14, 2021 7:38 AM
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Sorry but I just look at Isekai as an Adventure anime just like Hunter X Hunter but Isekais have their own set of rules like some Adventure shounen. So yeah It has nothing to do with 'hating my life' atleast for me.

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Aug 14, 2021 7:42 AM
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Most anime fans i saw (on MAL and Facebook) tend to talk about how sad their lives or sharing sad memes, that's why i really like this community. But yeah, the pandemic wave of anime fans slowly removes the "sad" stereotype of anime fans.

But hey, the reason i watch isekais isn't escapism. i watch mushoku tensei for Sugibro voicing, Konosuba for unique character design and Shield Hero for curiousity. It's not my main genre since I don't really like the overusing of Tolkien fantasy.
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Aug 14, 2021 7:57 AM
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TimMarcus said:
Most anime fans i saw (on MAL and Facebook) tend to talk about how sad their lives or sharing sad memes, that's why i really like this community. But yeah, the pandemic wave of anime fans slowly removes the "sad" stereotype of anime fans.

But hey, the reason i watch isekais isn't escapism. i watch mushoku tensei for Sugibro voicing, Konosuba for unique character design and Shield Hero for curiousity. It's not my main genre since I don't really like the overusing of Tolkien fantasy.


My main concern is not about the international anime fandom but more with the Jpanese one. Most of the revenue anime gets comes from Japan and since Japan is known to have a suicide issue, overwork culture and other messed up stuff, that would mean in my mind that isekai is popular because most of the people there hate their lives.
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Aug 14, 2021 9:19 AM
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Japan does have a very bad mental health problem from minimal acess to treatment and also how its seen as a weakness to talk about it. Its only going to get alot worse from here.

Aug 14, 2021 9:25 AM
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Woah woah chill, most people watch isekais because of harem, ecchi and OP protagonist to self-insert.

Noticed how R:Zero was hated because of the weak MC ?
Aug 14, 2021 1:44 PM
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I don’t hate my life I just want a harem.


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Aug 14, 2021 2:03 PM
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I don't really like isekai but if I had to guess, I'd say it could probably be like a form of escapism for many people, where they can self insert themselves into the scenarios and situations of another fictional world and enjoy and get away from their boring and mundane daily lives.

Of course I'm not talking about everyone, but quite a lot of people I have met like to self insert themselves into isekai anime.

Some people watch it simply for the thrill of seeing a new world and exploring it along with the Main Characters.


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DrSexy said:
TimMarcus said:
Most anime fans i saw (on MAL and Facebook) tend to talk about how sad their lives or sharing sad memes, that's why i really like this community. But yeah, the pandemic wave of anime fans slowly removes the "sad" stereotype of anime fans.

But hey, the reason i watch isekais isn't escapism. i watch mushoku tensei for Sugibro voicing, Konosuba for unique character design and Shield Hero for curiousity. It's not my main genre since I don't really like the overusing of Tolkien fantasy.


My main concern is not about the international anime fandom but more with the Jpanese one. Most of the revenue anime gets comes from Japan and since Japan is known to have a suicide issue, overwork culture and other messed up stuff, that would mean in my mind that isekai is popular because most of the people there hate their lives.


If we are talking about the Japanese, then that's a complete different topic entirely. We can't really assume can we when it comes to the Japanese.




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People don’t watch isekai because the MC leaves this world for another, but for the fantasy elements.

You’re literally asking the question if all the people who like Lord of the Rings hate their lives…
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LordSozin said:
DrSexy said:


My main concern is not about the international anime fandom but more with the Jpanese one. Most of the revenue anime gets comes from Japan and since Japan is known to have a suicide issue, overwork culture and other messed up stuff, that would mean in my mind that isekai is popular because most of the people there hate their lives.


If we are talking about the Japanese, then that's a complete different topic entirely. We can't really assume can we when it comes to the Japanese.


Why not? I'm not saying that my theory is facts, I'm just stating an idea and seeing if people agree or not. Maybe they will prove that what I said is bullshit.
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Aug 14, 2021 5:24 PM
Yes, we hate our lives, do you have a problem with that?
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Honestly, it is purely escapism for me. Our world is very dull and boring place. It is just work, work, work basically. We are slaves in our own system. I really wish I could live in more interesting place or at least in more interesting setting. My biggest dream is to have VR technology like Sword Art online or Matrix so I could just move in some VR fantasy world. I don't believe life after death so getting isekaied by truck-kun is not the option.

What I see is that most people just tries to escape from reality. Every entertainment is because that so we could forget our reality. Also getting drunk is escapism for many etc. For me it is anime, books and games.

I don't say that my life is bad but reality is that reality is dull. We lack purpose and not many can find that in the work.
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DrSexy said:
TimMarcus said:
Most anime fans i saw (on MAL and Facebook) tend to talk about how sad their lives or sharing sad memes, that's why i really like this community. But yeah, the pandemic wave of anime fans slowly removes the "sad" stereotype of anime fans.

But hey, the reason i watch isekais isn't escapism. i watch mushoku tensei for Sugibro voicing, Konosuba for unique character design and Shield Hero for curiousity. It's not my main genre since I don't really like the overusing of Tolkien fantasy.


My main concern is not about the international anime fandom but more with the Jpanese one. Most of the revenue anime gets comes from Japan and since Japan is known to have a suicide issue, overwork culture and other messed up stuff, that would mean in my mind that isekai is popular because most of the people there hate their lives.


Oh , i see.

Probably yeah,but
I think isekai popularity isn't just based from Japan's depression thing. There are so many escape way other than isekai, such as school harem romcom to tentacle hentai. I think the popularity of SAO and Fantasy MMORPG games are what makes isekai popular along with the overwork culture
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Aug 14, 2021 8:35 PM
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Damn bro you might be onto something there

I never thought about it like that

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Next I will see isekai being blamed for alien invasion on earth
Aug 14, 2021 9:37 PM

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I think isekai is pretty popular since it involves so much escapism from the real world. Instead of involving mundane real world societies fictional ones have more freedom on what can be displayed. You can like your life, and still enjoy fiction so I would not say all or most anime fans hate their lives. What people do in there free time should never really be called a societal concern imo. Societal shifts currently are more so due to dating websites and hypergamy being more active now than ever in 1st world countries. Degeneracy does lead to societal collapse, but without religion that will not be kept in check. It is like pandora's box.
Aug 14, 2021 9:47 PM
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I never thought of it that way. Perhaps it might apply to a few people here and there but I think sometimes they just like the series and it's simple as that




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Saying all that shit as if being virgin is a bad thing, it might be not accepted as normal for social shit, but I don't see anything bad about not wanting to fuck with every random person you find at a party.

Back to the main point, it might not e about the suicide stuff, but rather escape from this daily world, since everything seems to be harder to do now, reading novels, manga, watching anime, movies and stuff about fantasy seems to be more popular now, I guess to escape.
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People don’t watch isekai because the MC leaves this world for another, but for the fantasy elements.

You’re literally asking the question if all the people who like Lord of the Rings hate their lives…


If that's the case, why is Isekai, in general, so popular.

I believe it is more than just the fantasy element that attracts viewers. There is such a big need for characters from modern day Japan suddenly finding themselves in another world for some reason.

Why not just write a fantasy series like Slayers, where the main character is native to the setting?
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Noticed how R:Zero was hated because of the weak MC ?

My dude they forget REINHARD VAN ASTREA EXIST in that show for that op figure
like dude is so loved by author
AUTHOR LEGIT BACKED REINHARD TO THE POINT WHERE ONLY WITCH OF ENVY IS COMPARABLE IN VERSE when it comes to power in an interviw which i think can be found in re zero subreddit
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Conceptualhero said:
Tendo_GM said:
People don’t watch isekai because the MC leaves this world for another, but for the fantasy elements.

You’re literally asking the question if all the people who like Lord of the Rings hate their lives…



Why not just write a fantasy series like Slayers, where the main character is native to the setting?


They are plenty?
Mahouka
Misfit academy
danmachi
campione
rakudai etc etc are all generic fantasy series where main character is stayed in that fantasy setting since childhood
people forgot just how many non isekai fantasy novels are made too in japan every day

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The main selling point of isekai is that an mc leaves his boring shitty unfulfilling mundane life to go into another world ...


Woah... hold on there... there are plenty of isekai where the MC was living a pretty normal life.

Take the "boring shitty unfulfilling mundane life" out of it and then you'd be correct.
The main selling point is going to another world with a side dish of magical/superpowers and sexy new-world hotties.
Only some "start from scratch", many remain about the same age and are able to read/write/speak the language in the new world.

The appeal of that isn't because people hate their lives, but that they see all the crap happening in the world today, and suddenly going to another world sounds like it could be fun.
Since we can't do that (yet), we'll just let anime take us on that journey for a few episodes/seasons.
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I think isekai is pretty popular since it involves so much escapism from the real world. Instead of involving mundane real world societies fictional ones have more freedom on what can be displayed. You can like your life, and still enjoy fiction so I would not say all or most anime fans hate their lives. What people do in there free time should never really be called a societal concern imo. Societal shifts currently are more so due to dating websites and hypergamy being more active now than ever in 1st world countries. Degeneracy does lead to societal collapse, but without religion that will not be kept in check. It is like pandora's box.

I agree with this, there is definitely elemetn sof escapism to Isekai (I know i go there for it sometimes). But also I think there is a bit of hope, because in some isekai the MC is sent back to crappy country and uses modern day ideas to fix all sorts of problems to create a booming empire. Maybe people relate to this and see, if we change a few things maybe this world would be fixed... I maybe optimistically naive there. I don't think reinvention of a hand pump will fix this world much.

So in short this world aint great, we escape to a world that may or not be great and fix it up with teh freedom granted to us. Same reason why people love apocalypse movies.
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Why not just write a fantasy series like Slayers, where the main character is native to the setting?


They are plenty?
Mahouka
Misfit academy
danmachi
campione
rakudai etc etc are all generic fantasy series where main character is stayed in that fantasy setting since childhood
people forgot just how many non isekai fantasy novels are made too in japan every day



Good, I know. My question was rhetorical. Why is Isekai so popular when fantasy series like Slayers and Danmachi can be so successful. The biggest difference between those two type is the otherworldly element.
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Does people like you making a r**arted post like this everyday means you guys are mentaly ill? Is this a social concern?
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Conceptualhero said:
AnimeFA78N said:


They are plenty?
Mahouka
Misfit academy
danmachi
campione
rakudai etc etc are all generic fantasy series where main character is stayed in that fantasy setting since childhood
people forgot just how many non isekai fantasy novels are made too in japan every day



Good, I know. My question was rhetorical. Why is Isekai so popular when fantasy series like Slayers and Danmachi can be so successful. The biggest difference between those two type is the otherworldly element.

Probably cause jp people find it cool a dude from real world owning fantasy world like back of his hand lel
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Why i need to hate my life to watch anime? my pregnant wife, my job, my cute cat, watching anime and read manga as a hobby. Why i need to hate that?
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I mean, a lot of people are theorizing the same thing. People's lives have been hell in Japan but then again, I also heard Japanese are used to it and think of it as normal.
I just feel like Isekai is popular only in Japan cuz you don't need to have even a single braincell to understand stuff and they just watch it for breaks. Plus, Isekai's animation are usually pretty so that's that.

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Isekai is self insert genre for otakus that's why it's very popular genre among jp otaku community but it's not popular among non anime fans
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Idk if they hate their lives but I guess the thought of living in your ideal world is something people often think about or the concept of an after life of course. I used to like Harem when I got into anime because I was obsessed with the idea of being surrounded by beautiful girls.
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I'm a fan of isekai, and I'm pretty sure that I won't go suicide
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DrSexy said:
The main selling point of isekai is that an mc leaves his boring shitty unfulfilling mundane life to go into another world ...


Woah... hold on there... there are plenty of isekai where the MC was living a pretty normal life.

Take the "boring shitty unfulfilling mundane life" out of it and then you'd be correct.
The main selling point is going to another world with a side dish of magical/superpowers and sexy new-world hotties.
Only some "start from scratch", many remain about the same age and are able to read/write/speak the language in the new world.

The appeal of that isn't because people hate their lives, but that they see all the crap happening in the world today, and suddenly going to another world sounds like it could be fun.
Since we can't do that (yet), we'll just let anime take us on that journey for a few episodes/seasons.


Well I was talking from personal experience of the isekai I have seen, I'm a human I can't every single one that comes out. And from what I saw most of those isekai protagonist were either neets, had no friends and basically didn't like their boring mundane lives.

I was also taking in consideration how isekai changed over the years, before the main objective for the main character was to return to their original world, while now they just want to stay in that world being overpowered and fucking their harems.

The appeal of that isn't because people hate their lives, but that they see all the crap happening in the world today, and suddenly going to another world sounds like it could be fun.


Well if they see lots of crap in the world and want to fantasize about going into another world doesn't that mean their life is boring?
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Saying all that shit as if being virgin is a bad thing, it might be not accepted as normal for social shit, but I don't see anything bad about not wanting to fuck with every random person you find at a party.



Never said that being a virgin is a bad thing. People can live their lives however they want. I just mentioned the fact that most main characters in isekai hated the fact they were virgins and they couldn't fuck every person in a party.
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DrSexy said:

The appeal of that isn't because people hate their lives, but that they see all the crap happening in the world today, and suddenly going to another world sounds like it could be fun.


Well if they see lots of crap in the world and want to fantasize about going into another world doesn't that mean their life is boring?


Not necessarily.
Just because someone else would consider that life boring, doesn't mean the person living it does.
There is a "grey area" between exciting and boring, not a fine line. I would guess that more people fall into that grey area more than the two extremes combined.
Someone can enjoy their life, but at the same time see what is happening in the world around them that they don't want to be a part of.
Knowing that their personal world could eventually be impacted by the events happening elsewhere could be enough to make the fantasy of another world appealing.

I don't deny that there are people that don't like their life and escape into isekai, but implying that as being the case for most who enjoy isekai is assuming too much, IMO.
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I mean, games, books, simulators, and any other form of fictional medium have been built around the premise of creating worlds that are separate from our own. The concept has been a round for a long time. I wouldn't say it's a weeb thing since everyone has their own form of escapism. It's no question that we don't live in the perfect reality. But that being said, not everyone has to hate their lives in order to enjoy isekai. Most isekai anime happen to be directed towards gamers, which I can't say that I'm much of. But if I do watch them, it's usually because I'm interested in the adventure aspect of it. It's not because I think my life sucks or is boring just like the MC.
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Conceptualhero said:
Tendo_GM said:
People don’t watch isekai because the MC leaves this world for another, but for the fantasy elements.

You’re literally asking the question if all the people who like Lord of the Rings hate their lives…


If that's the case, why is Isekai, in general, so popular.

I believe it is more than just the fantasy element that attracts viewers. There is such a big need for characters from modern day Japan suddenly finding themselves in another world for some reason.

Why not just write a fantasy series like Slayers, where the main character is native to the setting?

Classic fantasy settings are just as popular as isekai is…
The problem is that there are less and less pure fantasy series because authors like the element of MC being advanced because he experienced 2 lives.

Isekai has nothing to do with escapist desires, it’s just a plot convenience for starting a show with the predisposition of experienced MC.
And a bug chunk of isekai anime and a majority of isekai manga/manhwas use the VR Game setting, it’s not really escapism since they just want to use a familiar and grounded rules for the story with no reincarnation BS, just making the story relatable
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We don't need to make everything pathological. For some people fiction is more important than for others, it always has been the case.

Fun fact: when books became popular and affordable for the middle class, old people said that especially young girls are falling into a "reading delusion" and will forget everything around them and all and will escape reality and their duties.
That was a couple of hundreds years ago and humanity is still alive lol. "New media bad" always was a thing.
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People don’t watch isekai because the MC leaves this world for another, but for the fantasy elements.

You’re literally asking the question if all the people who like Lord of the Rings hate their lives…

^ this.

Also I always write this reminder in every isekai thread: "classic" western novels like Narnia and Harry Potter are technically isekais too. Well, it's just called portal fantasy there.

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