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Jul 28, 2021 3:47 PM

Illyricus

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THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER.
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Hajun is powerful for sure, he pierced Buddha's shield without problem.
Hades' debut was cool as well. He looks like Poseidon with more drip.

IllyricusJul 28, 2021 4:37 PM

Jul 28, 2021 4:29 PM

isimyok

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Hades is improved version of Poseidon, I guess.

Jul 28, 2021 5:39 PM

TheMangaManiac

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Hajun just wants to pierce the Heavens with his drill.

Hades is kinda cool ngl, instant daddy vibes. I dig his design much more than Poseidon with boob window.

Jul 28, 2021 11:58 PM

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Hades is here and he is so hot 😍

"When There Is Evil In This World That Justice Cannot Defeat, Would You Taint Your Hands With Evil To Defeat Evil? Or Would You Remain Steadfast And Righteous Even If It Means Surrendering To Evil?"

Jul 29, 2021 12:03 AM

Marcus5768

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Please don't lose Buddha, I don't want him to die 😭

"When There Is Evil In This World That Justice Cannot Defeat, Would You Taint Your Hands With Evil To Defeat Evil? Or Would You Remain Steadfast And Righteous Even If It Means Surrendering To Evil?"

Jul 29, 2021 3:22 AM

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the plot is so bad : some random , weak-looking loser appears , and then the "gods" in the audience are so scared and sh!t their pants ? why ? and these delusional beings call themself-s "the mighty gods" , lol .

- WHO THE FUKK IS THAT ? IM SO SCARED OF HIM .
- I HAVE NO FUKKING IDEA . IM SO SCARED .
- WHAT IS THE DEAL WITH THAT THING ? IM SO SCARED .
- I HAVE NO FUKKING IDEA . IM SO SCARED .

hades scares the sh!ts out of ares , so why didnt hades fight in the tournament instead of the loser jobber weakling heracles ? the plot is so stupid .

- buddha already beat zerofucku , but then suddenly some random , weak-looking loser replaces zerofucku in this match ( aka just another a$$-pulling from the writer ) . it is against the rules , isnt it ? stop the match and declare buddha is the winner .
- fukk the rules . this godly tournament actually has no rules at all .
- so stupid .

page 12 : zeus is actually more younger than hades ? this manga 's character-designing is so stupid .

i want to pluck out buddha 's stupid , ugly , long fangs .

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Jul 29, 2021 3:32 AM

A_Shinoda

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time for Buddha get serious

Jul 29, 2021 4:40 AM

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Hades appears with a, 'That's my chair' entrance.
Buddha is now in a tough spot, his shield got drilled and maybe lost an eye.
I don't wanna see my boy lose, c'mon Buddha.

“I just spent the last two years thinking that you guys knew more than me about life and I just found out that you guys are just as dumb as me.” “Duh-doy.” “Yeah, duh-doy.”

Jul 29, 2021 11:06 AM

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this chapter was fucking crazy wtf. it’s was weird seeing that gods act like that (especially loki) when they saw hajun

also hades’ design is so fucking cool, his earrings specifically

Jul 29, 2021 1:48 PM

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Hades finally arrived, even tho I completely forgot about him LOL.
Hajun is damn strong. Satan x100
Hopefully, Buddha makes it out alive.

“You yourself have to change first, or nothing will change for you!”

Jul 29, 2021 7:51 PM

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so if buddha cant see 'light' in hajun, does that mean he doesnt have a soul or will? and i can just imagine hajun in a 'daddy' voice saying ara-ara

Jul 30, 2021 11:54 AM

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i already see a lot of death-flags on hajun 's head :

- route 1 : buddha kills hajun in a later chapter .

- route 2 :
hajun kills / beats buddha in a later chapter .
"what the ? buddha is so weak . im not satisfied yet . now i will start a rampage and kill some gods for fun , to quench my blood-lust" .
then 1 new god will kill hajun with just one punch , to show off his strength . then this god will fight in the next match .

all routes lead to doom ( this is the name of a trashy novel / manga , dont read them , lol ) .

hajun is just a crazy demon from hell , so he cant sit among the gods .

daywithoutgamesJul 31, 2021 12:27 AM

Jul 30, 2021 2:41 PM

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I think Buddha will find a way to win against Hajun.
Hajun's soul is pure darkness and that's why Buddha can not see anything through it.
As I thought Buddha won't make it out without some cuts and bruises here and there

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Jul 31, 2021 12:03 AM

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Anzuelo

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daywithoutgames said:
the plot is so bad : some random , weak-looking loser appears , and then the "gods" in the audience are so scared and sh!t their pants ? why ? and these delusional beings call themself-s "the mighty gods" , lol .

- WHO THE FUKK IS THAT ? IM SO SCARED OF HIM .
- I HAVE NO FUKKING IDEA . IM SO SCARED .
- WHAT IS THE DEAL WITH THAT THING ? IM SO SCARED .
- I HAVE NO FUKKING IDEA . IM SO SCARED .

hades scares the sh!ts out of ares , so why didnt hades fight in the tournament instead of the loser jobber weakling heracles ? the plot is so stupid .

- buddha already beat zerofucku , but then suddenly some random , weak-looking loser replaces zerofucku in this match ( aka just another a$$-pulling from the writer ) . it is against the rules , isnt it ? stop the match and declare buddha is the winner .
- fukk the rules . this godly tournament actually has no rules at all .
- so stupid .

page 12 : zeus is actually more younger than hades ? this manga 's character-designing is so stupid .

i want to pluck out buddha 's stupid , ugly , long fangs .

Hades don't fight because in the myths, he used to be pacific towards humans. Zeus look younger because his brothers were eaten by titans and then, they don't grow up until Zeus rescue them.
Everyone is scared because they don't know how is this guy who looks very creepy. Remember that the gods has human emotions.
I guess that the Hajun entrance is going to be explained later, and maybe it was a Beelzebub thing.

Jul 31, 2021 7:09 AM

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daywithoutgames said:
i already see a lot of death-flags on hajun 's head :

- route 1 : buddha kills hajun in a later chapter .

- route 2 :
hajun kills / beats buddha in a later chapter .
"what the ? buddha is so weak . im not satisfied yet . now i will start a rampage and kill some gods for fun , to quench my blood-lust" .
then 1 new god will kill hajun with just one punch , to show off his strength . then this god will fight in the next match .

all routes lead to doom ( this is the name of a trashy novel / manga , dont read them , lol ) .

hajun is just a crazy demon from hell , so he cant sit among the gods .

So a hulking demon (Weak-looking loser? Really? XD) being birthed out of nowhere, in spectacular fashion and changing the landscape shouldn't surprise everyone? The fact that not even the most powerful of the Gods know who this demon is shouldn't freak them out? This reveal and reaction is pretty similar to Buddha revealing that he would fight for humanity, which is one of the best plot moments in the entire series, and having the fight back up in the air with us knowing as little about Hajun as the Gods and Buddha in no way makes the plot bad, and suggesting it does is ridiculous.

Also, Zero's transformation into Hajun isn't one God replacing another. Hajun is seen as another form of Zero, just as Zero is seen as another form of Bishamonten and the other lucky Gods. On top of that, the rules are based on what the Gods and humanity agree upon. Which is why, despite Heimdall questioning if Buddha switching sides was allowed, Brunhilde orchestrating the switch and Zeus allowing it settled the matter. The rules of Ragnarok are left vague for situations like Buddha switching sides or Jack the Ripper wanting to fight in a Victorian England arena. The humans are fine with it because it gives them a better chance at winning, and the Gods are fine with it because they believe, despite these changes, that they will win.

As for Hades not being one of the fighters, you could ask the same about many other Gods not being fighters. Hermes, Athena, Ra, etc. and the main reason for this is that there's not enough room for all of them and the Gods chosen fit better thematically for their fights (Heracles vs Jack the Ripper - love for humanity vs hatred for humanity | Zeus vs Adam - father of the gods vs father of humanity). As for why Hades wouldn't fight specifically, it might have to do with his duties in the Underworld preventing him from doing so, or that he just doesn't see any reason to fight. That being said, now that there's a spot open for a new fighter for the Gods due to Buddha fighting for humanity, Hades may still end up fighting for the Gods later, but the coolest thing about this manga is that we have no clue what future fights will hold. Also, Heracles is in no way weak and clearly could have killed Jack the Ripper at the conclusion of their fight, but chose not to, considering doing so would be antithetical to the point of the fight and his character, so you can get outta here with that clown shit here and now.

One thing I will agree with you on is that Hajun will end up dying. I'm sure Buddha will find a way to overcome Hajun by the end of the fight and either win, or lose but having saved Zero in the process. Knowing Hajun's relation to Buddha, it would be a very poor move to have Hajun kill off Buddha. It would be similar to having Jesus fight Satan, just to have Satan overpower and murder Jesus. Hajun is the embodiment of Buddha's struggle to obtain enlightenment, so having that struggle that Buddha overcomes in Mythology kill him here would be pretty out of touch and disrespectful. Pretty certain he won't end up being killed by another God, but if he does end up winning, he can always sit with Beelzebub if the other Gods won't let him sit with them.

If you're getting all pissed off because Buddha is on the losing end at the moment, I'm not unsympathetic. I want Buddha to win as much as everyone else, but shit talking the manga and creators because the fight is still up in the air is useless and makes you look silly and childish. Otherwise, if your just shitposting just to shitpost, grow up, improve your grammar, and stay the fuck out of these forums with this cringey shit.

Edit: Nevermind. Checked his post history, and he's definitely just a cringey shitposting little boy. XD

J3_OmegaJul 31, 2021 11:06 AM

Jul 31, 2021 12:13 PM

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Komlan_6

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Hajun is a monster. if buddha dies, I'm beefing the author

Aug 1, 2021 6:16 AM

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Why does is feel like Buddha dug his own grave by indirectly awakening Hajun ??? IM genuinely scared for him

Zerofuku was annoying but Hajun's face is so obnoxious & punchable

Aug 2, 2021 10:21 AM

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Y'all if Buddha die imma riot for real. (Also Hades is a total husbando material)

Aug 3, 2021 3:43 PM

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hades had to show up just to tell us who hajun is lmao

this isnt looking good for the coolest character in the show he better not die

Aug 3, 2021 3:45 PM

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I hate to admit it but with all those gods around I completely forgot Hades was never shown before

Considering how bad it looks for Buddha and how common last second twists are I sure hope he wins this anyway

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It is for Madoka alone." - Homura
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Aug 5, 2021 3:52 PM

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I feel like this is the worst fight so far. Not because of the fight itself or the characters, but rather the insane amount of plot convenience within it. Buddha already fought 3 different dudes in the same body, and yet Zero keeps getting power ups or asspulls in order to drag the fight longer.

I still feel like Buddha is going to win by putting light into Hajun´s body or something. About Hades, he looks straight out of the Gotei 13, and his explanation of the three realms give some context as of why they all coexist. Even then, that means Odin should be a whole league in terms of power.

Jan 1, 2022 6:27 AM

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Damn I'm not gay but I don't mind simping for Hades. The amount of drip this dude has got is insane.

He explains Hajun's origins and scares Ares shitless.

Also, Hajun's pretty fricking strong. Dude drilled right through that shield. It seems they are trying to overpower Zerofuku and then they'll pull a plot twist somehow and Buddha's definitely gonna win imo.

Jan 15, 2022 5:02 PM

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Shimugon

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Isn't it the opposite, your comments or opinions are random.
Buddha and ror solos your fav character & series. +You better practice writing vocabulary lol

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