Dragon Ball Z and Dragon Ball are underrated

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Scordolo said:
A lot of new anime watchers including me skip it because I and many others don't have the dedication to sit through the entire series. I also have many seasonals to catch up to. I'm only watching Fairy tail cuz my sis was insisting or I wouldn't have even touch it.If it was just around 100 episodes at most, I would've at least considered watching it but I don't.

i mean i dont care if u watch it or not im mostly talking about the negative attitude people have towards db and dbz as a whole

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I know what you are gonna say no its one of the most popular anime's of all time one of the biggest franchises ever and yes you would be correct however, a lot of modern anime watchers see this show and dismiss it as being a bad anime with a lot of overhype and mischaracterize the show to a point where they think DBZ and DB fans don't watch a lot of anime and just have basic taste. They also compare this to modern shonen and label the anime as generic however what they see as generic is what has happened due to many people copying the formula Dragon Ball had popularized and revolutionized.

I see alot of people talk about how the story is very basic and characters lack depth besides vegeta or picollo which to me seems very inaccurate when you take into account db because you see a majority of those characters grow up and develop in their own right and villains in Z are iconic characters . They might not get as much screen time in Z but they had a whole show dedicated towards them. As for story being basic I don't see an issue with a linear story because its executed well and has a good cast behind it.

I'm not saying DB and DBZ isn't popular or isnt even extremely hyped but i think people downplay it to a point so people geniunly the grandfather of modern shonen is bad

Dragon Ball Kai in Japanese is way more underrated :(

Jul 26, 2021 11:05 PM

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soccer6131 said:

Scordolo said:
A lot of new anime watchers including me skip it because I and many others don't have the dedication to sit through the entire series. I also have many seasonals to catch up to. I'm only watching Fairy tail cuz my sis was insisting or I wouldn't have even touch it.If it was just around 100 episodes at most, I would've at least considered watching it but I don't.

i mean i dont care if u watch it or not im mostly talking about the negative attitude people have towards db and dbz as a whole

Why did you made a post about it if you don't care?You're literally telling more new anime watchers should watch it.

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Jul 26, 2021 11:07 PM

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Imo DBZ and DB are genuinely good anime. I'm not saying they aren't flawed, but they did do a lot of stuff right too. DBS a is where it got kinda bad imo.

But there are too many episodes in both of them to make them as enjoyable as they should be. I only ended up watching them because they ran on TV when I was a kid, so I can't say for sure whether I would still watch them now.

Downplaying them is wrong tho. Many great modern anime, including One Piece were directly inspired by the legend Akira Toriyama.

The fact does remain that at present, DB and DBZ aren't the best anime for the modern audience.

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Jul 26, 2021 11:08 PM

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Scordolo said:

soccer6131 said:

i mean i dont care if u watch it or not im mostly talking about the negative attitude people have towards db and dbz as a whole

Why did you made a post about it if you don't care?You're literally telling more new anime watchers should watch it.

i never said that i said people tend to look down on dragon ball and dbz due to its age and extreme amount of popularity and people shit on the show and write it off as a generic show

Jul 26, 2021 11:09 PM

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soccer6131 said:
I know what you are gonna say no its one of the most popular anime's of all time one of the biggest franchises ever and yes you would be correct however, a lot of modern anime watchers see this show and dismiss it as being a bad anime with a lot of overhype and mischaracterize the show to a point where they think DBZ and DB fans don't watch a lot of anime and just have basic taste. They also compare this to modern shonen and label the anime as generic however what they see as generic is what has happened due to many people copying the formula Dragon Ball had popularized and revolutionized.

I see alot of people talk about how the story is very basic and characters lack depth besides vegeta or picollo which to me seems very inaccurate when you take into account db because you see a majority of those characters grow up and develop in their own right and villains in Z are iconic characters . They might not get as much screen time in Z but they had a whole show dedicated towards them. As for story being basic I don't see an issue with a linear story because its executed well and has a good cast behind it.

I'm not saying DB and DBZ isn't popular or isnt even extremely hyped but i think people downplay it to a point so people geniunly the grandfather of modern shonen is bad

Dragon Ball Kai in Japanese is way more underrated :(

im including the remastered and edited versions as well im just putting it on dbz and db so its centralized

Jul 26, 2021 11:13 PM

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Imo DBZ and DB are genuinely good anime. I'm not saying they aren't flawed, but they did do a lot of stuff right too. DBS a is where it got kinda bad imo.

But there are too many episodes in both of them to make them as enjoyable as they should be. I only ended up watching them because they ran on TV when I was a kid, so I can't say for sure whether I would still watch them now.

Downplaying them is wrong tho. Many great modern anime, including One Piece were directly inspired by the legend Akira Toriyama.

The fact does remain that at present, DB and DBZ aren't the best anime for the modern audience.

i wouldnt disagree that dbz and db arent the best for modern audiences but i think that is more from techinical limitations of the time i think the manga is pretty good and i think writing is good but its showing its age i tend to like kai more due to it being reedited with better animation and less still shots and shorter fights

Jul 26, 2021 11:14 PM

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Dragon ball as a franchise deserves all the respect it’s one of the most if not THE most influential shonen manga series of all time even if you don’t like it you should respect the series because it proly influenced your favorite anime

Jul 26, 2021 11:15 PM

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I actually think he's overrated for that. Everyone always uses the one that he revolutionized, shaped the shounen, etc, so he is the best shounen. I don't despise it, but nowadays there's a lot more interesting to watch, even the "children" who use the formula and develop it in a better way, something or other that dragon ball couldn't. A proof of this is the "dragon ball super", tried to give new air and expand dragon ball, which despite its success, failed to reach the level of quality of its predecessors and displeased the old audience.

nah i dont think a majority of modern shonen is so much better than z or db i think what u see in more modern battle shonen is better animation which makes it standout more but z and especially db have good writing

Jul 26, 2021 11:16 PM

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I recently read the original dragon ball manga and it still slaps to this day it’s SO good!

Jul 26, 2021 11:17 PM

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To be fair the og dragonball is pretty shit. It has no drama or suspense. The characters are all lackluster and the action is sub par at best. Dragon ball z did fix alot of the issues up until Frieza's defeat and everything was undone. The biggest problem dragon ball has is the dragon balls themselves. While I do really enjoy alot of moments in dbz they are all meaningless. No sacrifice or death means anything cause it just gets undone. While Dragonball has it's strengths and epic moments the show has to many issues to be considered great in my opinion.

Jul 26, 2021 11:26 PM

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To be fair the og dragonball is pretty shit. It has no drama or suspense. The characters are all lackluster and the action is sub par at best. Dragon ball z did fix alot of the issues up until Frieza's defeat and everything was undone. The biggest problem dragon ball has is the dragon balls themselves. While I do really enjoy alot of moments in dbz they are all meaningless. No sacrifice or death means anything cause it just gets undone. While Dragonball has it's strengths and epic moments the show has to many issues to be considered great in my opinion.

what did u expect from a gag anime og db was a comedy and you see your attitude towards dragon ball calling it shit. because there wasnt drama in a comedy anime like thats like saying i want action in an idol anime. i will agree dragon balls are a problem i think. they needd. to be destroyed or something but ur just shitting on the anime be honest here

Jul 26, 2021 11:27 PM

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Shiroyasha222 said:
Imo DBZ and DB are genuinely good anime. I'm not saying they aren't flawed, but they did do a lot of stuff right too. DBS a is where it got kinda bad imo.

But there are too many episodes in both of them to make them as enjoyable as they should be. I only ended up watching them because they ran on TV when I was a kid, so I can't say for sure whether I would still watch them now.

Downplaying them is wrong tho. Many great modern anime, including One Piece were directly inspired by the legend Akira Toriyama.

The fact does remain that at present, DB and DBZ aren't the best anime for the modern audience.

dbs is amazing what do you mean

Jul 26, 2021 11:31 PM

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nah i dont think a majority of modern shonen is so much better than z or db i think what u see in more modern battle shonen is better animation which makes it standout more but z and especially db have good writing

No. There really are some that develop several things better than dragon ball. World and cast of characters: One Piece. Power levels and fights: HxH 2011. Characters and narrative: Fmab (if you consider him shounen). Bnha manages to create action situations with the same formula of fight and training and mix it with superheroes, which is something that is always around us. The ones I would say that only the animation stands out would be demon slayer, which is much more simplistic than its "generation competitors" (black clover, bnha or jujutsu kaisen).

i mean i dropped op at ep 200 but from what i saw i dont think it really blew db or dbz out of the water to a point where it was so much better. i dont think mha is as good as db or dbz especially since last season. as from FMAB i prefer 03 and i think that anime is 10/10 so i understand FMAB being good but when u look at a majority of shonen anime and consider dragon ball has almost been out for almost 40 years very few anime are where dbz or db is

Jul 26, 2021 11:34 PM

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I do think the characters are well written if we think about the time they're released in but most of the other things in dbz were actually just inspired from other animes like hokuto no ken.
And the anime is incredibly slow and hard to watch but I did love db and dbz growing up.
But besides from that my biggest accusation would be the fanbase as most of my encounters with them I just saw them as dumb toxic people.
Aside from that I do think dbz and db have pretty solid stories for it's time
And dbs power of tournament and the movie are pretty good

Jul 26, 2021 11:37 PM

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I do think the characters are well written if we think about the time they're released in but most of the other things in dbz were actually just inspired from other animes like hokuto no ken.
And the anime is incredibly slow and hard to watch but I did love db and dbz growing up.
But besides from that my biggest accusation would be the fanbase as most of my encounters with them I just saw them as dumb toxic people.
Aside from that I do think dbz and db have pretty solid stories for it's time
And dbs power of tournament and the movie are pretty good

do you start watch db from DBZ, also db also inspires to many other shounenes, also in making long running adventure series you know.

Jul 26, 2021 11:43 PM

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I do think the characters are well written if we think about the time they're released in but most of the other things in dbz were actually just inspired from other animes like hokuto no ken.
And the anime is incredibly slow and hard to watch but I did love db and dbz growing up.
But besides from that my biggest accusation would be the fanbase as most of my encounters with them I just saw them as dumb toxic people.
Aside from that I do think dbz and db have pretty solid stories for it's time
And dbs power of tournament and the movie are pretty good

i dont really find og db to be slow i find z to be slow but kai fixes alot of those issues with pacing as for dbz taking inspiration from other shows i would agree but i also think what dbz did with its show is what popularized and has influenced shonen than any other anime made.

i think super has 2 really bad arcs being frieza and bearus but if u replace them with the movies its not that bad. i think the black arc and tournament of power arc are good but it doesnt come close to z or db

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Scordolo said:
A lot of new anime watchers including me skip it because I and many others don't have the dedication to sit through the entire series. I also have many seasonals to catch up to. I'm only watching Fairy tail cuz my sis was insisting or I wouldn't have even touch it.If it was just around 100 episodes at most, I would've at least considered watching it but I don't.

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If I didn’t have any nostalgic attachment to the Dragon Ball franchise at all, not sure I would enjoy it.

Jul 27, 2021 12:10 AM

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If I didn’t have any nostalgic attachment to the Dragon Ball franchise at all, not sure I would enjoy it.

try dragon ball not dragon ball z i love both of them but og dragon ball has aged better than dbz if you wanna watch dbz watch dragon ball kai instead

Jul 27, 2021 12:14 AM

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soccer6131 said:

Roloniichan333 said:
If I didn’t have any nostalgic attachment to the Dragon Ball franchise at all, not sure I would enjoy it.

try dragon ball not dragon ball z i love both of them but og dragon ball has aged better than dbz if you wanna watch dbz watch dragon ball kai instead

I already watched them all. I’m just saying that I don’t think I would enjoy it as much if I didn’t grow up with it.

Jul 27, 2021 12:51 AM

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As someone who grew up watching Dragon Ball and Z, and as someone who has rewatched it more than 5 times, I can say Dragon Ball as a whole won’t be as appealing to the current anime audience. Back in the day it was easy to get into Dragon Ball, it was everywhere and it was unique to the western fanbases. Nowadays there are a shit ton of anime like DB. It has lost its uniqueness. I love DB, but it’s not a series everyone can watch if they didn’t grow up with it, it’s really long and most long time anime watchers don’t have the patience to sit through it.

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Ok please tell me which character but Piccolo and Vegeta are good?

Goku is a bloodthirsty psychopath who would rather care about his preferences and enjoyement with absolutely no 'fun' attached to him at all (unlike Hisoka a character very similar to him)

Gohan was found in the cell saga after digging deep into your nose to find that booger and then flick it away after the cell saga was over.
The pacing is fucked up. 3 episodes of charging up spirit bomb? What?

Both the whamen are garbage.

The villains are honestly just plain boring tyrants or perfect beings yadda yadda. Freiza, Cell and Buu are literal memes.

Also ,Dragon ball had a plot? Nani?

I agree that YYH and HxH did ripoff DB to many extents but which anime out of Naruto,Mha, Black clover etc etc took something 'major' out of DB?

Now don't get me wrong, DB and DBZ are solid shows in their own right but the show is very not upto nowadays standard (I say this because I rewatched it last year)

Also, the Dragon Ball/Z fandom is one of the most toxic fandoms back in the day and even today to an extent. "MERUEM IS GREAT? BUT CAN HE BEAT GOKU?" "NARUTO IS BETTER THAN DRAGON BALL? DRAGON BALL IS THE FATHER OF SHOUNEN , YOU SHOULD RESPECT IT AND LIKE IT MORE." Cutting down all excitement for other anime until the non DB ones retaliated

Conclusion: In no way is DB/Z underrated. maybe you like it more than normal and that is acceptable (I still like it today too) but to say a serious is underrated even after it has aged to a withered corpse and still continues to milk out content no one wants? Nah

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Jul 27, 2021 3:17 AM

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just because it revolutionized something or was the first to do something new doesn't mean that its good or it should be praised, even if it created a whole new genre, it could still be considered generic

db and dbz to me are the most mid anime at best, at worst its an garbage screaming fest with outdated looks and animations and has the most basic story, and the power system is 'im stronger than you because im stronger'

but people love it including me bcz of the nostalgia

Jul 27, 2021 3:19 AM

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soccer6131 said:
I know what you are gonna say no its one of the most popular anime's of all time one of the biggest franchises ever and yes you would be correct however, a lot of modern anime watchers see this show and dismiss it as being a bad anime with a lot of overhype and mischaracterize the show to a point where they think DBZ and DB fans don't watch a lot of anime and just have basic taste. They also compare this to modern shonen and label the anime as generic however what they see as generic is what has happened due to many people copying the formula Dragon Ball had popularized and revolutionized.

I see alot of people talk about how the story is very basic and characters lack depth besides vegeta or picollo which to me seems very inaccurate when you take into account db because you see a majority of those characters grow up and develop in their own right and villains in Z are iconic characters . They might not get as much screen time in Z but they had a whole show dedicated towards them. As for story being basic I don't see an issue with a linear story because its executed well and has a good cast behind it.

I'm not saying DB and DBZ isn't popular or isnt even extremely hyped but i think people downplay it to a point so people geniunly the grandfather of modern shonen is bad

Dragon Ball Kai in Japanese is way more underrated :(

Kai was a mistake, especially Kai (2014)

Jul 27, 2021 3:39 AM

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No, the anime of DB and DBZ are very badly made, the manga is good, but the anime is heavly overrated. DB is the father of modern shonen, and it’s good, but definitely not great, Toriyama is one of the most talented mangaka ever, but his laziness made him make tons of mistakes in the “Z” part of DB, which is like the most overrated thing ever

Jul 27, 2021 4:54 AM

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Dragon Ball/Z is over rated. Let me explain, the animation, voice acting, and overall story is nothing compared to modern anime like jujustu kaisen, my hero academia, JoJo, demon slayer,etc. Many people might say "Oh but dragon Ball came out in the 1980's so of course the animation and voice acting would be bad." Well yeah, I wouldn't expect MAPPA level quality when watching dragon ball but remember that Akira and fist of the north star came out around the same time. And I would have to say that those are better than dragon Ball. Also the story of dragon ball isn't that great. There I said it. The whole of idea dragon ball is that Goku becomes the strongest in the world, universe, and multi verse. It's not interesting. If you want to watch an anime with an OP MC just watch one punch man.

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can you blame them? this are kids that did not grow up watching DBZ on TV lol

its just Generation Gap at work

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Dragon Ball/Z are over rated. Let me explain, the animation, voice acting, and overall story is nothing compared to modern anime like jujustu kaisen, my hero academia, JoJo, demon slayer,etc. Many people might say "Oh but dragon Ball came out in the 1980's so of course the animation and voice acting would be bad." Well yeah, I wouldn't expect MAPPA level quality when watching dragon ball but remember that Akira and fist of the north star came out around the same time. And I would have to say that those are better than dragon Ball. Also the story of dragon ball isn't that great. There I said it. The whole of idea dragon ball is that Goku becomes the strongest in the world, universe, and multi verse. It's not interesting. If you want to watch an anime with an OP MC just watch one punch man.

first u never watched db or dbz but my hero isnt even close to being as good as db or dbz. most people tend to agree that animation carries demon slayer hard and the story it self isnt that strong. Kaisen is just as basic as Z with better animation. Goku also isn't the strongest in the world Kid Buu was stronger than him, he couldn't beat cell, he died to picollo to stop raditz. Goku doesnt really care about being the strongest in the world he cares about fighting the strongest people. also a majority of modern shonen take dbz's formula almost every modern shonen has a character who is extremly strong a little stupid andd a large apetite. also most modern shonen have form changes even deku with one for all 5% and 10% etc. if it wasnt good people wouldnt use dbz's formula to make shonen but what we see with shonen is that dbz's formula is used so much to the point where people call the one who invented it as basic when in reality its what made shonen what it is

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Threads like these remind that me that people are extremely harsh on it. I guess that's because it's a pretty straightforward series where it's easy to point out inconsistencies and flaws. You can't really disagree with most of what is said, but it's sad that people have such a reductive view on it while disregarding the good.

OG Dragon Ball was a funny adventure anime full of charm and and some intense fights on top.

Gotta love the fast paced exchanges and soundeffects. Choreo was captivating too.

Another short but sweet fight

I saw a comment regarding outdated art smh. It still holds up. Super was frankly a dowgrade in that department. The colors weren't as bright in Z, which complemented the grittier art. Animation was limited, but skilled camera movements made up for it. Whenever a punch connected you felt the impact. Not to mention the goated OST. Man, these DB fights were raw af. The beauty lies in it's simplicity. You don't need some fancy power system for epic fights, just slug it out. That's what made DB work.

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PrOxAnto said:

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Dragon Ball Kai in Japanese is way more underrated :(

Kai was a mistake, especially Kai (2014)

Kai has way better pacing than DBZ imo

Jul 27, 2021 6:04 AM

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Kai was a mistake, especially Kai (2014)

Kai has way better pacing than DBZ imo

Pacing isn't everything. It kinda lacked soul in the art and OST department(opening and endings were dope, tho) + was missing some iconic filler episodes such as Goku and Piccolo visiting driving school xD

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Its kinda true what they say, there are many shows with better depth and story than this.

It's kinda outdated now, just screaming guys getting power up every battle.

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FMmatron said:

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Kai has way better pacing than DBZ imo

Pacing isn't everything + it was missing some iconic filler episodes such as Goku and Piccolo visiting driving school.

Well everyone has opinions, I don't care for that episode or the filler arcs and DBZ felt as if I was going really slow sometimes...

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Pacing isn't everything + it was missing some iconic filler episodes such as Goku and Piccolo visiting driving school.

Well everyone has opinions, I don't care for that episode or the filler arcs and DBZ felt as if I was going really slow sometimes...

Sure, I just wanted to add that.

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Its kinda true what they say, there are many shows with better depth and story than this.

It's kinda outdated now, just screaming guys getting power up every battle.

having depth means nothing honestly people act like a show needs to deep and thought provoking to be seen as good when a majority of anime have this "depth" it doesn't make it a deep show they just do it to replicate other anime due to their success. Its just as uniform it doesn't make an anime better or standout when ur just doing the standard. The shows that set that standard are the ones that are remembered not the shows that take from the formula. Its why anime such as FMA are good because they were one of the first animes to have this depth and executed it well. But now i see so many shows try to do the same to the point its unoriginal at this point. I wouldnt blame FMA for that i blame the industry from beating the concept over the head. its the same logic i have for DB

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PrOxAnto said:

Kai was a mistake, especially Kai (2014)

Kai has way better pacing than DBZ imo

I would agree with you if I genuinely disliked the supposed filler episodes but it never felt like filler to me, not as much as the useless mission filler episodes in Naruto for example.

The thing with Kai is that the added scenes to fit the new pacing felt too out of place for the original Kai series.
Actually if you want to know why I think Kai was such a big mistake, I've made 2 short reviews on both Kai and Kai (2014).
Kai (2014) for example literally failed at everything it tried to fix with the original series.

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soccer6131 said:

emojiking04 said:
Dragon Ball/Z are over rated. Let me explain, the animation, voice acting, and overall story is nothing compared to modern anime like jujustu kaisen, my hero academia, JoJo, demon slayer,etc. Many people might say "Oh but dragon Ball came out in the 1980's so of course the animation and voice acting would be bad." Well yeah, I wouldn't expect MAPPA level quality when watching dragon ball but remember that Akira and fist of the north star came out around the same time. And I would have to say that those are better than dragon Ball. Also the story of dragon ball isn't that great. There I said it. The whole of idea dragon ball is that Goku becomes the strongest in the world, universe, and multi verse. It's not interesting. If you want to watch an anime with an OP MC just watch one punch man.

first u never watched db or dbz but my hero isnt even close to being as good as db or dbz. most people tend to agree that animation carries demon slayer hard and the story it self isnt that strong. Kaisen is just as basic as Z with better animation. Goku also isn't the strongest in the world Kid Buu was stronger than him, he couldn't beat cell, he died to picollo to stop raditz. Goku doesnt really care about being the strongest in the world he cares about fighting the strongest people. also a majority of modern shonen take dbz's formula almost every modern shonen has a character who is extremly strong a little stupid andd a large apetite. also most modern shonen have form changes even deku with one for all 5% and 10% etc. if it wasnt good people wouldnt use dbz's formula to make shonen but what we see with shonen is that dbz's formula is used so much to the point where people call the one who invented it as basic when in reality its what made shonen what it is

I won't deny that DB invented the formula for many shonens. And obviously other writers will use DB as inspiration for their mangas too. I did not watch DB because I read DB. DB will always be known as the OG. I know that there are people who love dragon ball and I respect that. I would have to disagree with you on the point you made where you said "my hero isnt even close to being as good as db or dbz" but that's just because my hero is my favourite anime.

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I don't think it's underrated but I find it annoying that every discussion devolves into people making fun of us dragon ball fans because of how "shit and generic our anime is and we have crap taste for liking it". I'm not offended by that crap but it gets really annoying after you see it a hundred times.

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Dbz characters are iconic, cells arc was actually pretty good in terms of character development and actual story. People nowadays don’t like old animes if they are not 24-26 chapters long and enjoy other type of anime. That’s why dbz get bad reviews most times, jujutsu kaisen which is almost the same bad story of the rest of dbz just get better score due to animation. I don’t like dbz as much as other people could but by no means I think is worse than every other shonen in existence nor believe is underrated. Just new people in their laziness to watch it really think is bad.

Jul 27, 2021 7:59 AM

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Bimbo1100 said:
Dbz characters are iconic, cells arc was actually pretty good in terms of character development and actual story. People nowadays don’t like old animes if they are not 24-26 chapters long and enjoy other type of anime. That’s why dbz get bad reviews most times, jujutsu kaisen which is almost the same bad story of the rest of dbz just get better score due to animation. I don’t like dbz as much as other people could but by no means I think is worse than every other shonen in existence nor believe is underrated. Just new people in their laziness to watch it really think is bad.

can you blame them for being lazy tho? I mean they have to watch DB, DBZ, DBZK, and DBS for a total of 742 eps.

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Jul 27, 2021 8:25 AM

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emojiking04 said:

Bimbo1100 said:
Dbz characters are iconic, cells arc was actually pretty good in terms of character development and actual story. People nowadays don’t like old animes if they are not 24-26 chapters long and enjoy other type of anime. That’s why dbz get bad reviews most times, jujutsu kaisen which is almost the same bad story of the rest of dbz just get better score due to animation. I don’t like dbz as much as other people could but by no means I think is worse than every other shonen in existence nor believe is underrated. Just new people in their laziness to watch it really think is bad.

can you blame them for being lazy tho? I mean they have to watch DB, DBZ, DBZK, and DBS for a total of 742 eps.

u only really have to watch db and dbz or db kai i think super is optional just like kai is like 150 and og db is 153 so its only 300 eps z is much longer at has 291 eps ut kai and z are same story kai is just newer and takes out a lot of filler and extremly long fights and shortens them also gets rid of alot of still shots and stuff with newer animation you only have to watch one of them super is like baruto you dont need it

Jul 27, 2021 8:27 AM

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emojiking04 said:

can you blame them for being lazy tho? I mean they have to watch DB, DBZ, DBZK, and DBS for a total of 742 eps.

u only really have to watch db and dbz or db kai i think super is optional just like kai is like 150 and og db is 153 so its only 300 eps z is much longer at has 291 eps ut kai and z are same story kai is just newer and takes out a lot of filler and extremly long fights and shortens them also gets rid of alot of still shots and stuff with newer animation you only have to watch one of them super is like baruto you dont need it

ahhh ok I see. (Need to reach 15 words)

Jul 27, 2021 8:27 AM

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Theo1899 said:
I don't think it's underrated but I find it annoying that every discussion devolves into people making fun of us dragon ball fans because of how "shit and generic our anime is and we have crap taste for liking it". I'm not offended by that crap but it gets really annoying after you see it a hundred times.

i dont mean underrated in terms of popularity im mostly talking about alot of people shitting on db cuz its popular and old and belittle a show that revolutionized shonen

Jul 27, 2021 9:11 AM

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emojiking04 said:

Bimbo1100 said:
Dbz characters are iconic, cells arc was actually pretty good in terms of character development and actual story. People nowadays don’t like old animes if they are not 24-26 chapters long and enjoy other type of anime. That’s why dbz get bad reviews most times, jujutsu kaisen which is almost the same bad story of the rest of dbz just get better score due to animation. I don’t like dbz as much as other people could but by no means I think is worse than every other shonen in existence nor believe is underrated. Just new people in their laziness to watch it really think is bad.

can you blame them for being lazy tho? I mean they have to watch DB, DBZ, DBZK, and DBS for a total of 742 eps.

I don’t and I don’t even care if they don’t want to watch something the only problem I see is when they say anime is bad just because it has a lot of eps. I am not blaming anyone and my post wasn’t to do so xd

Jul 27, 2021 9:46 AM

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