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do you think Oppai Loli or Loli Big Boobs are a valid label?

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Jul 16, 2021 10:23 AM
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i mean are they considered children too or they are just small women aka petite?

Hestia of DanMachi is said to be a Loli Big Boobs (even on the Light Novels they say) and like overwhelming majority of characters in Needless are Oppai Loli designs too

so thoughts? because i do think the loli label is overused to all small female characters now
Jul 16, 2021 10:33 AM
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Hestia is tall enough, she can't be a loli and she has great thighs, lolis don't have thighs. She is petite
Iruru is a valid loli because she is small and has small hands, she is oppai loli, look at her small childlike thighs
CatalanoJul 16, 2021 10:36 AM
Jul 16, 2021 10:33 AM
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Hestia isn’t a child or a even really a loli, she’s just short. I think the whole loli concept is pretty dumb, but I find most ‘oppai lolis’ never really act or behave like most lolis. They’re just short

Jul 16, 2021 10:36 AM
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Catalano said:
Hestia is tall enough, she can't be a loli and she has great thighs, lolis don't have thighs. She is petite
Iruru is a valid loli because she is small and had has small hands, she is oppai loli, look at her small childlike thighs


that Iruru character do looks like a child lol
Jul 16, 2021 10:37 AM
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yes, the only reason people would say otherwise is because people put far too much weight on the word loli, its definition, and its implications
Jul 16, 2021 10:44 AM
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I think it just depends on the character design, such as stature and what I believe to be the appropriate physical features for that character. With characters like Hestia, I wouldn't call her a loli. I don't know if people are trolling when they're giving her that label. But she looks mature enough to me to where her boobs would be appropriate for her size.
Jul 16, 2021 10:48 AM
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Lol so many threads related to lolis. Being honest short girls with boobs looks weird. I think they are valid cuz boobs are for matured and grown women.
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Jul 16, 2021 11:29 AM
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yes, the only reason people would say otherwise is because people put far too much weight on the word loli, its definition, and its implications


true its because lolicon is still link with pedophilia but in real life im a small man only 5 feet plus so thats why im normally attracted to petite women like Hestia
Jul 16, 2021 11:38 AM
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Putting boobs into different categories is OPPRESSION!! I DEMAND WE APPRECIATE ALL BOOBS EQUALLY! From small ones to bog ones to male ones!

boba is boba
Jul 16, 2021 12:17 PM
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"Lolis" are supposed to be prepubescent. However that doesn't disqualify characters with big breasts from being infantilized. In general the purpose of much of the characteristics of moe stylization, and the idea of what we think is "cute" in general as human beings is drawn from the similarity of something's appearance to that of a human baby.

Round, soft features, proportionately large eyes, proportionately large heads. Lots of these features are integral to moe. But we also encourage real women to shave their body hair, prefer them to be petite, etc. Such girls as this topic refers to may physically exist, but they're not the average adult woman by any means. It's not a question of the physical possibility of the character so much as the logic behind their design and the specific sexual desire for them. What is it about our psyche as a culture that has produced the idea that this type of figure has marketable sexual appeal above the possible variations we reject?The girls in these shows AREN'T designed the way they are to be realistic, so the fact that some girls really are like that is rather aside the point... Anyway since that's not really the question of the thread and ultimately I don't really care, I'll just say the label doesn't really make any sense.
Jul 16, 2021 12:31 PM
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ohohohohohoho said:
"Lolis" are supposed to be prepubescent. However that doesn't disqualify characters with big breasts from being infantilized. In general the purpose of much of the characteristics of moe stylization, and the idea of what we think is "cute" in general as human beings is drawn from the similarity of something's appearance to that of a human baby.

Round, soft features, proportionately large eyes, proportionately large heads. Lots of these features are integral to moe. But we also encourage real women to shave their body hair, prefer them to be petite, etc. Such girls as this topic refers to may physically exist, but they're not the average adult woman by any means. It's not a question of the physical possibility of the character so much as the logic behind their design and the specific sexual desire for them. What is it about our psyche as a culture that has produced the idea that this type of figure has marketable sexual appeal above the possible variations we reject?The girls in these shows AREN'T designed the way they are to be realistic, so the fact that some girls really are like that is rather aside the point... Anyway since that's not really the question of the thread and ultimately I don't really care, I'll just say the label doesn't really make any sense.


just gonna say that here in south east asia its common to have 5 feet and below height though especially for women
Jul 16, 2021 12:59 PM
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deg said:


just gonna say that here in south east asia its common to have 5 feet and below height though especially for women


probably an even better reason not to call them lolis >.>
Jul 16, 2021 1:23 PM
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There is nothing about Hestia that seems loli other than the fact some characters in the series refer to her as such to annoy her because she's kind of on the short side compared to most characters. Even then she doesn't come off as having a childlike height when you hold her relative to a character that could be called a loli, like the bag girl.

I think people took what seemed to be an in-universe tease and took it at face value. I legit can't come up with any other explanation for why anybody could consider her a loli. Either that or the writer was laughably innocent and labeled her as such without knowing the connotations of the term. I think of loli as a child, though, and Hestia looks like a short adult and acts like how I'd see a TV anime young adult. I don't think there's a ton of room for interpretation, either.

She probably has a bush down there, s'all I'm saying.
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Jul 16, 2021 3:15 PM

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I Think calling lolicon designs “small female characters” is a bit overdone myself.

Unrelated to Hestia, who I don’t even Think very highly of in the first place. She is what people attempt to invoke the energy of, in spite of a lot of them largely just looking like children.
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Jul 16, 2021 3:33 PM

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a 6'2" trucker with a beer belly and a beard can be a loli. stop being so elitist
Jul 16, 2021 3:47 PM
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an oppai loli is just a loli that has (big) boobs, simple as that
Jul 16, 2021 4:07 PM
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Catalano said:
Hestia is tall enough, she can't be a loli and she has great thighs, lolis don't have thighs. She is petite
Iruru is a valid loli because she is small and has small hands, she is oppai loli, look at her small childlike thighs
thats not enough, shes as old as Thoru and taller than Kanna and not having these features does not mean the character is a loli. It all comes down to age in my opinion(Kanna is a loli because shes young for a dragon), and of course the old excuse of 300 year vampire doesn't work because that 300 year vampire was stuck in the body of a child. But Ilulu is just petite, all the meat went to one place.
Jul 16, 2021 6:39 PM
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spaesu said:
an oppai loli is just a loli that has (big) boobs, simple as that


what is your definition of the word loli? do you define them by their looks or age?
Jul 16, 2021 6:43 PM
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deg said:
spaesu said:
an oppai loli is just a loli that has (big) boobs, simple as that


what is your definition of the word loli? do you define them by their looks or age?
i personally define them by how they look
Jul 16, 2021 6:51 PM
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spaesu said:
deg said:


what is your definition of the word loli? do you define them by their looks or age?
i personally define them by how they look


im tempted to make a thread about this but ok understandable
Jul 17, 2021 8:52 AM

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As a small woman with big boobs, idk what to think of this thread
Jul 17, 2021 9:54 PM

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This thread makes me think of Uzaki-chan, a girl whose height and figure might make you think she's an underage loli were it not for her generous gazongas. Almost make me wonder if her creator was trolling those who think loli figure and big boobs must somehow be mutually exclusive (never mind the fact that girls with that age, height, and proportions actually exist).
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Jul 17, 2021 9:58 PM

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It is a valid tag. Oppai Loli is just a Loli that has boobs, there is a doujin artist called Atage in nhentai that have done a ton of it, you can search for him in order to get better knowledge



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