Attack on Titan
| Working conditions in the anime industry are already pretty terrible. If animators are quitting, I can't even imagine how messed up it is. P.S. If anyone is able to find the original tweet by the animator, I'd really appreciate it if you could let me know. EDIT: I found the source! Added that plus some more context! It's worth noting that this animator isn't very high level, and doesn't work on super important scenes or something (as you could probably tell by their tweet), but it's still interesting to hear the perspective of someone who's relatively new in the industry, and is also a freelancer. Some more Context Please do not discuss manga chapters, ending, or leaks. Also, when replying, please don't quote my entire post, it makes it really cumbersome for people scrolling through the comments. Also, please look through all the images to get the full picture. Mod Edit: Reduced text size and put spoiler tags on pictures in order to reduce the absurd size |
Awesomeness_1307May 15, 2021 3:24 PM
| This /a/ thread is most likely about the same person and it has some tweets https://boards.4channel.org/a/thread/222166119 Idk how these things work but do they sign NDAs or something? |
Theo1899May 14, 2021 11:57 PM
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| Damn it! Roughly 8 months away from the airing date and some animators are already giving up? Sounds pretty bad. Everyone who said this part has a better schedule better reconsider. I don't know how their contract with the production committee works. I wonder if there's a contract for each part or if MAPPA agreed on this since the very beginning. Either way, blaming either side won't change anything now. It's sad to know that the next 8 months or so will be a living hell for the Attack on Titan team. Azmihu_ said: Bruh, I've been asking this.. just how many chapters does 1 manga volume consists of? I think each volume is 4 or 5 chapters long. |
samashi20May 15, 2021 2:12 AM
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| lol how many animators quit? the Final Season did not even have Super Animators on it anyway and i hope more quit since ye Fuck MAPPA with their factory type of philosophy and people here are saying Part 2 have better production schedule lol looks like they do not have much time again |
| Take Care Of Yourself - Evangelion OvergrownRover said: Ironic Mappa was created by former Madhouse employees that left due to overworking and now Mappa is just like Madhouse can’t wait for the former Mappa employees to make a new studio more ironic since a lot of former MadHouse staff goes to MAPPA now |
| This is pretty worrying tbh but i can't really blame the animators who quit, the workload is pure insanity even with cgi. |
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Awesomeness_1307 said: from what I have seen from leaks, it's good that this is happening I don't want chapter 139 to be animated[/quote]Working conditions in the anime industry are already pretty terrible. If animators are quitting, I can't even imagine how messed up it is.[/size] P.S. If anyone is able to find the original tweet by the animator, I'd really appreciate it if you could let me know. EDIT: I found the source! Added that plus some more context! It's worth noting that this animator isn't very high level, and doesn't work on super important scenes or something (as you could probably tell by their tweet), but it's still interesting to hear the perspective of someone who's relatively new in the industry, and is also a freelancer. Some more Context Please do not discuss manga chapters, ending, or leaks. Also, when replying, please don't quote my entire post, it makes it really cumbersome for people scrolling through the comments. Mod Edit: Reduced text size and put spoiler tags on pictures in order to reduce the absurd size Well if 139 gets animated anime only will understand why most manga readers despise this series ending. We get to hate together Mod Edit: Modified quote of edited post. |
CravenlockMay 15, 2021 7:44 AM
OvergrownRover said: Ironic Mappa was created by former Madhouse employees that left due to overworking and now Mappa is just like Madhouse can’t wait for the former Mappa employees to make a new studio Maruyama (co founder of madhouse and founder of mappa) has already founded a new studio because he apparently hated how mappa functions. |
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goodguylegy said: SUCKMAHDLMAO said: the ending was amazing.. Wtf r u talking abt? That was the perfect ending for aot and it didn't contradict anything..This is because of the hatred for the ending if working condition was this bad then wit studio would've never animated season 2 and season 3 animators are quittng because of the trash tier ending of this manga and they don't wanna waste their energy drawing i hope all of the animators and staff just quit this project cause it ain't worth it at all at this point this manga doesn't deserve a great adaptation at all This has to be sarcasm right? Mod Edit: Modified quote of edited post. |
CravenlockMay 15, 2021 7:45 AM
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goodguylegy said: literally no I'm being serious.. The ending contradicted nothing and a lot of people including me loved the ending. Please explain how did the ending contradict the story? mentions of leaks and ending below, read with caution. if the leaks are true about the extra 8-ish pages being added onto chapter 139, then yes the story does somewhat contradict itself. although it's not factual yet, there is a possibility of it being true, since the leaker is the same one who leaked lots of aot chapters with almost 100% accuracy. |
HiigurashiiMay 15, 2021 4:07 AM
| Well got some info thanks for bring this up |
| Ah man this is a shame to hear, but not too surprising I guess considering how bad anime working conditions can be in general. As an anime only I really want to go into this final part with as few expectations as possible, so I have to find a way to ignore these topics that pop up on my feed. This was my gateway anime and I want to remain optimistic for its final stretch, judging it and the ending for myself when it comes out. Still loved S4P1, but no doubt frequenting these boards changed the experience a bit, and I don't want to go into next year thinking "oh no animators quit so the animation might suck! And the ending could be disappointing since a lot of manga readers said so!" Just gotta judge it on it's own as someone whose loved this show all this time. |
| Are ya winning, diners? |
| I was puzzled at how Mappa intended to adapt a full anime season from a manga that hadn't yet concluded with less than a year to its premier so it's understandable the studio is in utter chaos. Still, being told to work all the way into the morning week after week has to be a violation of labour rights. I'm sure streaming figures were sky-high but are blu-rays even on sale yet to determine if the Final Season was a monetary success? |
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| With how the last arc and ending turned out idc anymore. I hope their ressources are going to Jujutsu Kaisen and Chainsaw Man instead. |
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Yeah and considering how many animators WANT to work on CSM.I hope the animation will be good |
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| I really hope Crappa learns their lesson from this.In the future,other anime will also be affected by this and not just Aot and I can guarantee you that. I'm wishing good luck to those who retired from Mappa and find a better studio with better working environment like KyoAni. sharosharo said: Well got some info thanks for bring this up A big one too. |
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| Well, that's "GOAT Mappa" for you. |
| This is so painful to see,if covid weren't exist we will get we want in the trailer and people don't disappointed,but we must accept it ,accept the truth,I don't care about the CGI but if the frames are a bit faster maybe.... |
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| Good for them tbh. Glad they'll be able to spend time with their families and get even a little sleep now. |
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| Now mappa has only one option to deliver AOT like they want. Just give those poor animators some time and delay it to idk maybe 2023. Otherwise MAPPA is done for. |
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| This news has made me quite disappointed in mappa. I'm glad they left |
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| here comes the CGI!!!! well tbh its a different team , so like he said this is nothing unusual . of course members from the 1st part wont stick around, especially considering how bad the schedule was . so this nothing to be surprised about . |
Scordolo said: I really hope Crappa learns their lesson from this.In the future,other anime will also be affected by this and not just Aot and I can guarantee you that. I'm wishing good luck to those who retired from Mappa and find a better studio with better working environment like KyoAni. sharosharo said: Well got some info thanks for bring this up A big one too. Let's be honest Kyoto Animation is in the minority and really MAPPA is just following some of the practices Madhouse has been accused of. It's just another notable case of an industry that needs to care more about it's workers. Still yeah even though I guess for anime onlys a poorly animated S4 Part 2 would suck I hope MAPPA is prioritizing CSM. We will see when the PV comes out. |
BilboBaggins365 said: Scordolo said: I really hope Crappa learns their lesson from this.In the future,other anime will also be affected by this and not just Aot and I can guarantee you that. I'm wishing good luck to those who retired from Mappa and find a better studio with better working environment like KyoAni. A big one too. Let's be honest Kyoto Animation is in the minority and really MAPPA is just following some of the practices Madhouse has been accused of. It's just another notable case of an industry that needs to care more about it's workers. Still yeah even though I guess for anime onlys a poorly animated S4 Part 2 would suck I hope MAPPA is prioritizing CSM. We will see when the PV comes out. And some members REQUESTED to lessen the number of anime to animate but the Ceo turned it down.Seems like greed completely blinded him. |
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| Damn, that sucks. Now people who worship MAPPA excessively can stay silent forever. |
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Awesomeness_1307 said: sorry i deleted the reply and i request u to do the same as it contains my reply. I was being nothing but a big retard. I apologize.gintokijaegar05 said: tbh i know it sound really bad, but a part of me hope that MAPPA fails miserably to adapt part 2, which will make MAPPA learn a lesson and make way for better adaptation down the line a after some years. That's a shitty mentality. Not everyone is so invested in studios and production. A very small minority of the fandom cares so deeply about this stuff, so wishing that they fail miserably would be wishing ill on all of the viewers. And secondly, even if they do fail, it won't result in them getting better. It will either result in them shutting down, or becoming some kinda watered down relic of their past selves, kinda like Madhouse. |
CamelBowMay 15, 2021 10:51 AM
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badmintona said: so aot s4 sucks because it's not as well animated as demon slayer? you mappa haters are shallow asfIn a world where the Demon slayer movie exists, that argument doesn't work, AOT S4 sucks, it's the truth whether you admit it or not. And the thing here is not which anime has better animation, but AOT had a very inconsistent animation throughout s4. |
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Leoradiuju2004 said: so aot s4 sucks because it's not as well animated as demon slayer? you mappa haters are shallow asf In fact, what he said makes sense, why is covid blamed for the poor production of AOT if many other studies and animes have done really well? maybe KNY's example is ridiculous, another example would have worked better.And the thing here is not which anime has better animation, but AOT had a very inconsistent animation throughout s4. The reason why other anime did well is because they aren't very complex to animate unlike Aot. |
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| Yeah I'm not surprised at this, the working conditions must be absolute hell, I really don't like how MAPPA is overworking their staff |
TweedleDane said: Lads once again : only the people who were working in the part 1 of the anime has left . It's not " quitting" but the people leaving to find their next work . This is nothing unusual or anything .it's the normal case for 2 cour productions , unless the people want to work in the part 2 as well. Which won't be the case with aot since the schedule is too shit to work in......they arent sticking around for a part 2 of this . The team has been different from the beginning. Don't get clickbaited by the title . No one has quit the production team from part 2 . Wait it's a different team working for part 2? That's interesting Edit: My dumbass didn't read all of the tweets |
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