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Mar 7, 2008 4:47 PM
#1
THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Here we go. 1.Lock on has lost sight in his Right eye after the last battle against the GN-X's/Sumeragi & crew plan to help out the trinity trio escape from the UN forces tailing them.Setsuna heads out on board the Exia gundam & lasse pilots the new GN-arms 2.the HRL special forces attack the trinity trio while the assault is being broad casted around the world,we also catch a glimpse of Grahams Custom GN Drive Flag being assembled,soma manages to damage the Drei gundam.Johan calls for a retreat and the trio escape. 3.Meanwhile at the Moon Alejhandro & ribbons continue to hack Veda . 4.The trinity trio hide out on a remote island during the night,but as they relax from all the recent battles Ali shows up with his Red Enact,and proceeds to kill Michael,Johann hops onboard The Eins gundam while Ali jumps on to the Zwei gundam and somehow manages to bypass the security system,Ali then proceeds to hand Johann his own ass as Johann and the Eins gundam are destroyed! neena after witnessing her brothers killed beings to cry inside her gundam as Ali begins his attack on her. 5.Back at the Moon Ribbons Bypasses the Final security block and a capsule containing Aeolia body appears! Alejhandro fires a gun at the capsule like a mad man but all of a sudden the room lights up And Aeolia Appears on a huge screen ! 6.Setsuna & lasse Finally arrive and engage Ali and the Zwei Gundam,setsuna is surprised to hear Ali voice coming from the Zwei gundam,Ali overwhelms setsuna even with the help of the GN-arms it seems that setsuna will lose the battle but Aeolia Activates The Trans-am system inside the Exia & all hell brakes loose as the exia glows red and has some kind of after image power.while Setsuna is owning Ali,Aeolia begins a huge speech in which he reveals that CBs true goal is to prevent wars before they begin plain In the end setsuna sends Ali & the zwei packing after owning him F91 style. Trans-am mode Rating 4.0/5 |
KrylonBlueMar 8, 2008 2:17 AM
Mar 8, 2008 4:32 AM
#2
THIS EPISODE IS EPIC |
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Mar 8, 2008 7:48 AM
#3
starseeker said: BASICALLY.THIS EPISODE IS EPIC uguu~ Nena was almost at her end, too.~ |
Mar 8, 2008 8:09 AM
#4
starseeker said: THIS EPISODE IS EPIC QTF This episode was kick ass on so many level first the Gn-X formation , and then the Trans-am mode , which pwns. Too bad Ali got away. Kinda feels sorry for the trinitys though =/ |
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Mar 8, 2008 10:50 AM
#5
only three episode left what else will happen. what is saji do now |
Mar 8, 2008 10:58 AM
#6
Saji won't do anything.these last 3 episode will all be about the Meisters Vs the United Nations. And yes the Newtype magazine spoilers confirm this. |
Mar 8, 2008 1:22 PM
#7
-Ryuji- said: Saji won't do anything.these last 3 episode will all be about the Meisters Vs the United Nations. And yes the Newtype magazine spoilers confirm this. Well they can always give a hint on what will he decide :) |
Mar 9, 2008 12:34 AM
#8
Fai said: Well they can always give a hint on what will he decide :) I think Saji is just going to sit in his room all day, hikkomori-style. The last few episodes have pretty much broken him down in a very cruel manner. I can only imagine what's going to happen when he finds out that his next door neighbour is a Gundam pilot. |
Mar 9, 2008 6:44 AM
#9
did saji actually have much of anything to do other then just being there? and be rescued by kyrios/allelujah? ditto with him being a hikkomori . . though the last episodes will definately be epic. my bet is on nena joining celestial being. |
Mar 9, 2008 7:01 AM
#10
Mar 9, 2008 7:37 AM
#11
While the way Corner got screwed was awesome, and the Trans-Am system was pretty cool, I have to say i was a little irked by it. I've never been too much of a fan of watching Gundams effortlessly dispatch hundreds of units and I'm afraid that the Trans-Am system might lead back to that. Setsuna effortlessly kicked the crap out of Ali after the full awakening of his GN drive...and that somehow just seems wrong to me. Ali was able to fight on par with Setsuna in just an Enact, and now even though he's in a Gundam all he can do is take hits? I know I'm not really going anywhere, but it just bugs me is all. |
Mar 9, 2008 8:38 AM
#12
Aeolia vs. World, 1:0 Epic episode indeed and to the concerns about overpoweredness, maybe Ali was just too surprised at the sudden change, and thats why he got overwhelmed so easily. its quite hard to adapt when suddenly your opponent is completely different than what you expected. i guess when he knows what hes fighting against, he has more of a chance, seeing as setsuna still only managed to cut his shield |
Mar 9, 2008 9:32 AM
#13
I'm just glad they saved Nena, because Kugimiya in Gundam is just hilarious. I'm also very curious what they're going to do with her now. Is she joining Setsuna co.? Is she going her own way and show up at some important point in the story? Will she be deranged to a comical relief character? I fear the last. |
Mar 9, 2008 10:19 AM
#14
Yay... so thrones suck and got their asses handed to them that was great =D Lockon not dead =) will he regain his sight though? after 3 weeks maybe?? Throne Zwei Hijacked, suitable for a mercenary... Trans-am: Setsuna F Seiei: "I am NOW a Gundam..." lol So now the original Celestrial Being has buffed up Gundams, this will make the fight against the UN GN-X units easier. *hopeful prediction) Nena = Flay (Gundam SEED)... Setsuna might finnally get laid O.o or at least a girlfriend... but its clear to me that they will hook up, Nena will probably get killed and Setsuna will go for Marina after that, as a mom or a GF. Epic Episode agreed |
Mar 9, 2008 10:28 AM
#15
Mar 9, 2008 11:08 AM
#16
Freaking epic. It's impossible to describe this episode any other way. This is definitely going to have an appropriate ending for a first season. |
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Mar 9, 2008 11:12 AM
#17
Mar 9, 2008 12:47 PM
#18
Basaka said: You can't be serious.*hopeful prediction) Nena = Flay (Gundam SEED)... Setsuna might finnally get laid O.o or at least a girlfriend... but its clear to me that they will hook up, Nena will probably get killed and Setsuna will go for Marina after that, as a mom or a GF. I'm not a Nena fan, but even I don't think she will become a whore. And Setsuna doesn't need a woman, he has Gundam. kk |
Mar 9, 2008 2:10 PM
#19
So, Aeolia is finally intervening.... He calculated everything and even included a failsafe plan.... However, some mysteries are still unresolved, like what happened on Jupiter and where does the red drives really come from. Where did the Trinity brothers grew up? Did the black Haro get destroyed? Once again, it's official that the four original GN Drives have special usage and powers the red ones don't have. And of course, Graham using the GN Drive on a Flag is deadly, but overthrows a lot of my theories on future plot development.... (And of course Nyoro subs sucked.....I have been trying to avoid eye contact with it...what a tireful exercise..And is it just me, or the sound was bad so I sometimes couldn't distinguish the words they were saying? Bad watching experience today.... ) |
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Mar 9, 2008 3:03 PM
#20
More confusion added. And WTH. The gundam are already upgraded with that magic? Lame. |
Mar 9, 2008 3:23 PM
#21
Ali is all kinds of awesome - steals Zwei, destroys Eins, beats down Drei, beats down Exia and only loses when Exia goes super mode. I would love to see him and Graham duel it out when Graham gets his GN-Flag. Also I really hope they don't make Felt X Lockon a couple, that would just be too weird. |
Mar 9, 2008 3:34 PM
#22
otacu said: More confusion added. And WTH. The gundam are already upgraded with that magic? Lame. they aren't upgraded , they always had it , it was just sealed and could only be unsealed by someone with high security access. |
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Mar 9, 2008 4:22 PM
#23
Mar 9, 2008 4:39 PM
#24
sabermetrics said: wow, when exia turned red... goosebumps went up my back... for about 10 minutes... wow... that was an awesome episode... paint it red for extra speed. |
Mar 9, 2008 4:53 PM
#25
Certainly must say the episode was full of epic win. Happy to see two of the Trinity dead and really wish they'd of killed Nena (what can I say I have hated them since their introduction into the series). Interesting with this new Trans-Am system. I have thoughts it's going to lead to somewhat overpowered Gundams but it's interesting nonetheless. Plus Graham with GN Drive (even if it's fake) = All forms of awesome. My faith in this series has been somewhat restored. |
Mar 9, 2008 5:14 PM
#26
XD AWESOME episode!!! Glad Lockon survived :D and really cool with the Red Exia looking forward to the next episode ^_^ |
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Mar 9, 2008 5:26 PM
#27
Nuuu, Dynames!!! ;___; Those parts with Lockon and Tieria were pretty strange yet entertaning ^w^ Nadleeh is way cooler than Exia's transformation! x] Lockon in an eye patch, yay...I'm more happy that he's alive though♥ But DAMMIT! We lost eye candy Johann! WTF?! I was like 'nononono, don't kill him!' Stupid friggin Ali -.- Johann was the awesomest Trinity and he was suuuper sexy! It should have been Michael and Nena, or just Nena who died >_> Michael died pretty suddenly; I was like "O.O" XD That part where Saji told the Gundams to go hell was hilarious XD I wanna see more Graham<3 And I can't wait for the rest of the season! We all just know it's gonna end crazy... |
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Mar 9, 2008 6:42 PM
#28
Haha! I was right about the frozen Aeloia theory. The ownage of Corner was awesome, the true body is actually somewhere near Jupiter as thats one of the last places I know of aeloia's existence (crazy theory). I didn't think they'd be using the epic/awakening Gundam powers yet. I thought they'd use something like that the last episode of this season, or the beginning of the next season, obviously the writers must have a good cliff hanger up their sleeves. As for Mr. Ali, I'm curious as to how he managed to 'hack' Veda as Johann said, meaning theres more to him we don't know, he has a relation with Lord Corner or is he just really freakin amazing? I predict a crazy amount of Lockon-patcheye chibi art from the Roy Mustang fans |
Mar 9, 2008 6:59 PM
#29
Sukotsutsu said: I didn't think they'd be using the epic/awakening Gundam powers yet. I thought they'd use something like that the last episode of this season, or the beginning of the next season, obviously the writers must have a good cliff hanger up their sleeves. That's exactly how I felt at the end. I was surprised they'd do this sort of thing early on. But then it just makes me wonder what they're planning for the second season. o_o On a side note.. NENA SHOULD HAVE DIED! jdhsajkdhajh She should have been the first to die. Sure the loss of her brothers could lead to some sort of redeeming quality for her character in future episodes but STILL. I don't think I can ever forgive that brat for so recklessly using her gundam. The same could be said for Mihael, so him dying was nothing too sad. Johaan was a good character though, shame to lose him. I'm SO glad we didn't lose Lock-on! Though he really shouldn't encourage fourteen-year-olds >>; Somehow I get the feeling there's upcoming loli. |
Mar 9, 2008 7:52 PM
#30
Meh, another hottie dies in the world of anime. Johann Tirinity. >: The episode was rocking. The fights were awesome. Lockon with eye patch is <3 XD |
Mar 9, 2008 9:51 PM
#31
I personally thought this episode was great. We get to see some sick mech formations, watch trinity get their asses ripped off, and watch Exia go crazy. Heres my take on the whole new "overpower-ness". I don't really see it yet. Exia goes extra fast now because thats what it was originally designed for, fast close combat action. He's still going to be vulnerable to attacks by large numbers and long rang (if hes not paying attention). We also have no idea what this new Trans-AM's effects will play on the other working Gundams. It's effects may be entirely different depending on what the suit was made for. For example Lock-On's Gundam may have faster firing times or something directly related to the GN drive. Tieria's might now actually have a special use since he was hinting before at it when he had to shed the armor. We also don't even know if this Trans-AM will even effect the other Gundams. Setsuna's could be the only one with the change in power. Lock-on's could be broken now...etc. Its a bit to soon to say if CB is overpowered yet. We also have to take into account that there are only 3 working units now and theres, what, 12 or more GN-X's with highly skilled pilots. We haven't seen CB go up against them yet so we have no idea how things will pan out. I personally think its about even now that CB has Trans-AM. @wakka9ca However, some mysteries are still unresolved, like what happened on Jupiter and where does the red drives really come from. Where did the Trinity brothers grew up? Did the black Haro get destroyed? I think the Jupiter issue was uncontrollable. Meaning something broke in the ship and caused it to kill all the people (ie. a hole from a freak meatier shower). and I think Haro lost his memory because of something related to the ship. In that ep about Jupiter we hear one of the guys say something like, hey look what I found. It looks like its broke up I'll take it with us anyway. That may be why they couldn't make exact copys of the GN drives. There was probably data that got corrupted on Haro's hard drive. Once again, it's official that the four original GN Drives have special usage and powers the red ones don't have. And of course, Graham using the GN Drive on a Flag is deadly, but overthrows a lot of my theories on future plot development.... Ya its funny, we where all talking about the GN drives last ep thread but no one suspected that the real ones would upgrade haha. Almost everyone thought it would be a downgrade on all GN drives (at least thats how I felt) xD. What a shocker when Exia turned red. It looked just like the Gundam in the first ep. |
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Mar 9, 2008 10:26 PM
#32
DeathfireD said: Its a bit to soon to say if CB is overpowered yet. We also have to take into account that there are only 3 working units now and theres, what, 12 or more GN-X's with highly skilled pilots. We haven't seen CB go up against them yet so we have no idea how things will pan out. I personally think its about even now that CB has Trans-AM. The idea however that the false Gundams, or even Grahams, have possibly the same power as CB though is a bit far fetched. These false drives were made after the initial GN drives were made. This makes it impossible to put a hampering effect of some sort to 'hide' any abilities the false drives might have. Graham's MIGHT have abilities greater then the GN-X (but not CB) since his has yet to be seen, his GN drive didn't have a glowing red ring on it like the others, (rather a yellow if i remember correctly) CB's drive on the other hand are handed down and were made in Aeloia's time when restraints could be put on them. DeathfireD said: I think the Jupiter issue was uncontrollable. Meaning something broke in the ship and caused it to kill all the people (ie. a hole from a freak meatier shower). and I think Haro lost his memory because of something related to the ship. In that ep about Jupiter we hear one of the guys say something like, hey look what I found. It looks like its broke up I'll take it with us anyway. That may be why they couldn't make exact copys of the GN drives. There was probably data that got corrupted on Haro's hard drive. While I do agree that the only way the GN info could have been found was through the corrupt purple Haro, I doubt it was a natural disaster. Aelioa played some key role in it, either he sensed a betrayal, or didn't think most of the other crew would use it for 'good', so he killed them. The purple Haro trail was also on purpose, although that also remains to be seen. Aelioa also took those that he trusted from his crew to help with his future plans for Earth and then spent the remainder of most of his time in the asteroid belt near Jupiter doing prep work. The crew however continued to carry out the plans (when he got frozen). |
SukotsutsuMar 9, 2008 10:31 PM
Mar 9, 2008 11:09 PM
#33
I hate that they ended the episode with us hanging like that!! Though it really was an exciting episode! I agree with as some have said, even if the other remaining two original gundams are camaro...trans am-ified, the numbers are still against them, plus we have yet to see a few tricks, such as Graham's GN Flag. I was hoping Setsuna would have finally killed Ali al-sarshes, but i guess he's too much of a hatable character to kill off quickly. Think about this as well, I have seem some complain about CB being overpowered now, but unless something changed, they were all getting their butts kicked...something had to give for them to even stand a chance! Those military formations were sick, lol! |
Mar 10, 2008 12:04 AM
#34
Sukotsutsu said: DeathfireD said: Its a bit to soon to say if CB is overpowered yet. We also have to take into account that there are only 3 working units now and theres, what, 12 or more GN-X's with highly skilled pilots. We haven't seen CB go up against them yet so we have no idea how things will pan out. I personally think its about even now that CB has Trans-AM. The idea however that the false Gundams, or even Grahams, have possibly the same power as CB though is a bit far fetched. These false drives were made after the initial GN drives were made. This makes it impossible to put a hampering effect of some sort to 'hide' any abilities the false drives might have. Graham's MIGHT have abilities greater then the GN-X (but not CB) since his has yet to be seen, his GN drive didn't have a glowing red ring on it like the others, (rather a yellow if i remember correctly) CB's drive on the other hand are handed down and were made in Aeloia's time when restraints could be put on them. I was referring to group power not one on one combat. Do you think 12 GN-X's would be taken out fast by one CB Gundam? I don't, thats why I think their about equal now. Before the upgrade Exia would have gotten ripped apart and overpowered by the shear numbers not to mention the great teamwork that the GN-X team has. Now that he has amazing speed I think it's a level playing field now. Same goes for the others. I agree, I doubt theirs anything "new" that the GN-X's can do but in terms of speed and teamwork I still think its about equal if they face a Gundam or two now. |
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Mar 10, 2008 12:25 AM
#35
Just when it seemed like that lines of battle was drawn, everything goes to hell the question that i haven't asked for a while is back Who's good, who's bad? I mean we have an like 6 factions now The UN The CB (Original Meisters) The CB (Gundam Thrones) Ali's Mercenary Group Alejandro's attempt to control everything Aeolia Schenberg Questions i have now 1) Who's working w/ who? 2) Who is the primary antagonist? Ali, Alejandro, or Aeolia? |
Mar 10, 2008 1:07 AM
#36
OMG! Words cannot describe the epicness of this episode. The battle with the Trinities, Ali showing up and killing two of the Trinities, Exia in full power, Ali getting owned by FP Exia, these moments made the hair on my back rise! =P |
Mar 10, 2008 1:18 AM
#37
Mar 10, 2008 1:39 AM
#38
The script is becoming even weaker than that of Destiny with all the futile over-dramatization and the obvious "coincidences", and the characters develop to be as bad as those of Gundam Wing (Bishonen ftl !). There are some good things though, the OST by Kenji Kawai, the series has a very good pace and this Gundam looked somewhat promising at the beginning... but it's almost screwed now. Hope that the second season will be more interesting, but I'm starting to doubt it. Maybe Sunrise will get serious for their next Gundam series (Tomino come baaaack !). But maybe I don't enter in the core target of this series which is more aimed towards girls and teenagers than the real Gundam series. Still for a Gundam fan like me, it's a real disappointment, SEED was MUCH better, even if it was far from the best... |
Mar 10, 2008 4:38 AM
#39
Mar 10, 2008 6:19 AM
#40
Omg when Johann shouts, I sense very strong Kamina GARness in him (lol for anyone who still dont know, they share the same VA) And I shouted during the GN-X Formation. WTF IS THIS SHIT LOL IT IS AWESOME. too bad I don't like the suit that much. If only there are a bunch of FLAGS with GN drive doing that , I will be all wryyyy all day long EPIC |
Mar 10, 2008 6:22 AM
#41
LoL from what i see Trans-Am System FTW~ :D |
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Mar 10, 2008 7:24 AM
#43
Red Exia kicks ass! But what will happen to Nena now? |
Mar 10, 2008 10:41 AM
#44
Marraques said: You know there is going to be some VowelsxLockonxFeldt triangle there. /agree |
Mar 10, 2008 2:03 PM
#45
Mar 10, 2008 2:32 PM
#46
Mar 10, 2008 2:39 PM
#47
Tekky99 said: Just when it seemed like that lines of battle was drawn, everything goes to hell the question that i haven't asked for a while is back Who's good, who's bad? I mean we have an like 6 factions now The UN The CB (Original Meisters) The CB (Gundam Thrones) Ali's Mercenary Group Alejandro's attempt to control everything Aeolia Schenberg Questions i have now 1) Who's working w/ who? 2) Who is the primary antagonist? Ali, Alejandro, or Aeolia? 6? Considering that theres only 1 throne left, and it seems Nenas going to become part of the CB team and Aeolia is the founder of CB that gives you the UN and the CB, and I think Ali is more likely now to be a pawn of Alejandro considering he was able to access the throne pretty quickly (Johann claims Ali used teh ha4ck5), which gives you a total of UN, CB, and Lord Corner. I find it interesting that you would consider Aeolia an antagonist, but I also have my suspensions that he wants to unite the world and then 'awaken' and take leadership of it, although I have no chance of knowing that till probably mid second season. As for now, Alejandro is the main antagonist because he seems to be the root of the GN-X and the like... |
Mar 10, 2008 6:06 PM
#48
Mar 10, 2008 7:01 PM
#49
Tekky99 said: Just when it seemed like that lines of battle was drawn, everything goes to hell the question that i haven't asked for a while is back Who's good, who's bad? I mean we have an like 6 factions now The UN The CB (Original Meisters) The CB (Gundam Thrones) Ali's Mercenary Group Alejandro's attempt to control everything Aeolia Schenberg Questions i have now 1) Who's working w/ who? 2) Who is the primary antagonist? Ali, Alejandro, or Aeolia? You forgot the Union, AEU and HRL's united front, which is NOT the UN. And by the way, Alejandro is a representative/observer of UN. The Thrones faction is pretty much dissolved now, with only 4 influencial independent "factions" remaining: CB with Aeolia, United Front, Alejandro and Ali. Of course, we don't know yet which one are actually allies or even if they have internal conflict and betrayal. Once again, we still can't be sure of Aeolia's standings and I have the impression Alejandro will go down very very soon...by the end of season one (especially after falling into Aeolia's trap....) And also, don't forget Saji.... Where does he stand? |
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Mar 11, 2008 10:52 AM
#50
What an episode. These last episodes have really been epic. They even showed Saiji wanting the Gundams to die. Maybe Nena will join will Celestial Being now, since they now have some common ground. I can't believe Aeolia was able to calculate this far. I'm starting to feel a little sad that the season will be over soon, so much is happening. |
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