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Apr 5, 2021 3:05 AM

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Nice episode. But a bit weird: How did the guy they protected end up seeing the illusion? Matsumoto talked about his glasses but they seemed like normal ones. Not like teh elecctronical night vision goggles the attackers used.

Also he must have heard the conversation when they talked about the future and stuff. I guess this is just your usual anime thing where this won't get explained and the guy just didn't hear anything.

Funny thing: He now (cause they did not further explain stuff to him) might just manage to pass the law cause he was so impressed and now has a real interest in AI instead of just using them to get votes.

Sad thing: I guess it will get episodic. Girl from the first episode got killed. And we probably won't see the politician anymore. But jumping through other events that were considered important - with always different side chars.
Apr 5, 2021 3:11 AM

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Luthandorius said:
Nice episode. But a bit weird: How did the guy they protected end up seeing the illusion? Matsumoto talked about his glasses but they seemed like normal ones. Not like teh elecctronical night vision goggles the attackers used.

It was special glasses, that's why Matsumoto was able to hack it to disguise Vivy and not have him recognize her/it.

Luthandorius said:
Also he must have heard the conversation when they talked about the future and stuff. I guess this is just your usual anime thing where this won't get explained and the guy just didn't hear anything.

I'm pretty sure that Vivy and Matsumoto were conversing telepathically.
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Apr 5, 2021 3:31 AM

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I see. I did not notice this. A bit weird that for the night vision goggles they put a lot of focus on it. And for the other stuff you have to think about it and interpret this into the situatoin. (When it actually isn't shown/mentioned.)

I just thought it maybe was a hologram everyone got to see (and only the viewers of the anime saw her as Vivi) ... and that her mentioning that she wanted him to listen to her singing ... had revealed her. (He seemed to have reacted to that.)

Edit: Looking closer and comparing scenes ... it actually seemed like his mouth (of the stuffed toy animal) moved in normal scenes. When talking about stuff that should not get revealed ... the eyes started to glow and the mouth did not move. Didn't notice this at first. (Would have been better to hint more at this to not make people rewatch and check stuff again ha ha.)

Weird though that he just isn't talkign to her via "telepathy" constantly - when most other stuff also is not relevant to 3rd parties. When he said to her the was taking too long to fight against 1 soldier ... he talked normally. Would have been more efficient to do that telepathically as well. Only talking normally if he wanted to talk to others (to the politician).
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Apr 5, 2021 4:33 AM

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This anime has so much potential, I didn't have very high hopes I thought it might be some generic music anime but it is so much more interesting. Ep2 was much better than ep1, i'm glad it was released straight after ep1. I'm looking forward to the next episode.
Apr 5, 2021 5:21 AM

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What an amazing opening couple of episode, the animation looks so smooth. The music is good too. Looking forward to this show.
Apr 5, 2021 6:45 AM

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Diva, at some point, reminds me of Violet Evergarden! And that collapsing scene of the building where she jumped is so intense and cool!

It's been a while since I've watched the initial episodes that made me so hyped, captivated and extremely engrossed! WIT studio truly delivers and I hope that they will be able to sustain this type of quality until the end. My only gripe though is with that last few minutes about the kid in the airplane accident. It would have been better if it was presented in the next episode. I feel like it was so out of place. But overall, I was utterly pleased with how the story is presented. Looking forward for more!

Apr 5, 2021 7:40 AM
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Wow impressive ! One of the best shows this season :D
Apr 5, 2021 11:39 AM

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I felt my heart drop when Vivy watched Momoka die right before her eyes and her not being able to do a thing about it, thanks to Matsumoto's intervention.

The dynamic between Vivy and Matsumoto is gonna be an interesting one; he is an AI that acts purely according to logic whereas Vivy acts based on her mission which is almost like acting on an emotional basis. The other fascinating element to their partnership is the 100 difference in their technological specs. Matsumoto is more expressive and mimics human nature despite his less than human view of things and Vivy has a more impassive, rigid nature.
Apr 5, 2021 12:46 PM

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Conceptually it's pretentious and operates on improper generalizations, but well...
Story requires lot of suspension of disbelief.
The less of the "dip" stuff the better. Action might be good, but we'll see.
Visuals are nice etc. I expect more from MONACA composer than okayish action track, ending on the same chord.

So far it's "fine."
If you don't think about nonsense assumptions it might be a fun watch, but they have to deliver on the action/intrigue/whatever they planned.
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Apr 5, 2021 12:56 PM

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That ending from the second episode, I mean, damn.
Apr 5, 2021 4:05 PM
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Its way to bad the little girl had to die, I wonder if vivy could have negotiated with the AI and stated that she wont interfere unnecessarily ever again if she could have saved the girl. Though I guess its not likely they would accept.

Wonder what her technicians think of the bullet injury or her arm being torn, there needs to be some explanation on how they are handling this.
Apr 5, 2021 5:47 PM
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Rezero writer + aot studio = masterpiece !!!!
Apr 5, 2021 5:49 PM

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Looks very promising, great animation and maybe a good plot
I keep moving forward
Apr 5, 2021 6:03 PM

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Looks promising! I hope it doesn't fumble.
Apr 5, 2021 6:45 PM

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This was at least better than the first episode, but what the hell was that ending? Such a bizarre and sudden transition that it almost felt like there were scenes cut from the actual episode. The execution was not good. Where/when does this scene take place? Time travel shenanigans? Will the next episode be leading up to the scene in question? Or the entire series? Who the fuck knows really. Gotta end this double premier on a tragic event, so people will keep watching!

I'm definitely not on board with this yet, but at least the concept of AI gone horribly wrong is always interesting. Also, bear, please shut up. Stop talking so much.
Apr 5, 2021 9:45 PM
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Pre_Yum said:
I didn't expect back to back episodes but hey, the more the merrier.
The relationship between humans and AI is taking even darker turn. This is not what anyone would like. These kinds of actions literally spark a war. The technological aspect is pretty advanced but not in a good way. Also, Matsumoto, the AI bear is here. Quite a talkactive one and has an interesting personlaity for an AI. I wanna see how bad the things are going to get between them.
Once again, the animation is really good, Wit is doing an incredible job. Quite a dark episode, wasn't expecting it to turn out that way. Looking forward to more.


"these are the sorts of things that start a war"

It remains to be seen how things evolve, but one thing that sticks out to me is how "human" Matsumoto is. Too human, in fact. To the point that it actually seems extremely untrustworthy. From the facts already established as of this episode, the audience is already given the idea that the "increasing rights of AI lead to AI initiating a war against humanity that sees AI supposedly victorious."

This is, to put it mildly, counterintuitive; in the traditional telling of such stories, it is the denial of such rights and equality that generally leads to such conflict. For examples of this, we can point to the animatrix, as well as a bevy of other stories, including more recent retellings of Asimov's I, Robot. Where the plot is heading suggests to me that Matsumoto will turn out to be the villain in all of this, manipulating history as a portion of a wider singularity meant to ensure its own success. Thus far, there are three things that lead me to this conclusion.

The opening sequence:
-The only information we are given in the opening sequence is of AI committing to the all-but unopposed massacre of an almost entirely de-militarized humanity. At no point prior to this do we see any human mistrust of AI; there is an unguarded comfort which suggests that AI are not considered to be equals and are still viewed as tools.

Matsumoto's "lack of trust."
-Matsumoto is providing a drip feed of information, and has already shown that it can actively manipulate sensory data at will. There is every reason to believe that it is actively limiting the amount of information that Vivy can see to achieve an objective which nullifies armed resistance from humanity while also failing to stop the advance of AI technology, leading towards a "singularity." A reminder that a "singularity" is usually defined as an AI powerful enough that humanity can no longer match it on a scale of collective intelligence and creativity. Traditional examples of this are, of course, Skynet, The architect of the Matrix, Legion (from Eighty-Six) and (a much more benevolent example) Lacia from Beatless.

The focus on "maintaining the appearance of "historical events."
-For whom is this "appearance of official history" being maintained, and why? Matsumoto is supposedly doing the bidding of his human creator by travelling 100 years into the past and using Vivy to change history. And yet it emphasizes the appearance of preservation of history. At the present juncture, the course of events would seem to emphasize the increasing use of AI and increasing autonomy to prevent human error, which is not an outcome that would "eliminate all AI."
Rather than ensuring a lack of advancement, it rather seems that Matsumoto is simply eliminating or nullifying variables that would enable humanity to present resistance in a human-AI war; already we have the repetition of specific historical events (including the elimination of the girl who cared for Vivy as a potential wildcard), a politician who will now not advocate for AI rights (thus creating tension on the AI side), and a terrorist who was saved by an AI (thus creating an influence which could disband said terrorist group and thus eliminate human resistance).



Apr 5, 2021 11:07 PM

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This anime remember me the game Dretroit become human so much, it's one of my fav games and now this anime will always be in my mind.
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Apr 5, 2021 11:59 PM

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w0w keeps getting better!
2nd episode in and i think the real threat is that AI TeddyBear from Hakase...
5/5.


Apr 6, 2021 12:39 AM
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the show is fantastic, but why you must kill momoka, literally the only one that makes this show a little cute.
Apr 6, 2021 2:26 AM

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the show is fantastic, but why you must kill momoka, literally the only one that makes this show a little cute.

Hey, hey, hey, did you just forget about the titular character?
Apr 6, 2021 2:42 AM
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Avvenirista said:
DaciaDuster38 said:
the show is fantastic, but why you must kill momoka, literally the only one that makes this show a little cute.

Hey, hey, hey, did you just forget about the titular character?


no, i didn't forget about her, but you know she's too cold too call her cute. I say in sense of personality, aesthetically she's gorgeous
Apr 6, 2021 2:47 AM

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Really tragic she could not save her fan from the plane accident.

and it looks like she gained the respect of the politician. It seems he recognized her female form, because he gave her his blazer to wear - like how a man gives cover to woman.

looking forward for more! :)
Apr 6, 2021 2:49 AM

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DaciaDuster38 said:
Avvenirista said:

Hey, hey, hey, did you just forget about the titular character?


no, i didn't forget about her, but you know she's too cold too call her cute. I say in sense of personality, aesthetically she's gorgeous

I see what you mean but I sense sparkles of cuteness here and there, like when she was trying to catch Matsumoto in her room.
Apr 6, 2021 3:15 AM
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Avvenirista said:
DaciaDuster38 said:


no, i didn't forget about her, but you know she's too cold too call her cute. I say in sense of personality, aesthetically she's gorgeous

I see what you mean but I sense sparkles of cuteness here and there, like when she was trying to catch Matsumoto in her room.

yeah, you're right. i totally forgot about that scene. But i hope that are a little more of cute moments like that, although the way the show is going, I don't expect so many.
Apr 6, 2021 6:55 AM

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So this has probably already been answered, but what happened at the end there? They went from shaking hands in a park to all of a sudden he's slamming her through a wall with some kind of construction machine, ripping her arm off and the plane is crashing. A "vision" he's showing her? Or a preview of the next ep?

Kind of a non sequitur if it's reality.
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Apr 6, 2021 7:38 AM
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the ending was wooow, didn't expect it, matsumoto is very interesting, i love his way of thinking.
Apr 6, 2021 9:20 AM

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The ending scene should have been put after credits. The transition was too sudden. Nonetheless, it blew me away.
Apr 6, 2021 10:06 AM

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Okay, now I can safely say I'm hooked!
I did like the "timeskip" at the end, since this story of 13 episodes is apparently going to cover 100 years, at least as far as we know at this point.
Music and sound design are incredible, I'm curious to see where this leads.
Apr 6, 2021 2:31 PM

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interesting anime, I like that the AI girl is the only protagonist and another AI as a companion instead of introducing a normalfag boy as those old stories of light novels like "beatless" it would be a similarity to this one, imagine a boring and irrelevant boy involved in a story where it has nothing to do
Apr 6, 2021 10:58 PM

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I didn't expect anything coming into this anime but after these two episodes I'm now expecting it to be one of favorite shows of the season. I look forward to seeing where this goes next.
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Apr 7, 2021 12:31 AM

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honestly got some GitS vibes when Vivy held up the rubble and you could see her inner workings

this show has some amazing art though
Apr 7, 2021 3:00 AM
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Great inspiration from Steins:Gate, I expect a lot from this anime!
Apr 7, 2021 4:31 AM
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I didn't really see anyone talking about this before the season started. I have high hopes after those first 2 episodes. It's awesome so far.
Apr 7, 2021 5:13 AM
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They managed to save Aikawa, but what guarantees the terrorist group won't go after him again?
He did mention stepping down, and after all of this happened I can see him being like 'The AI Naming Law doesn't worth getting killed over', he even mentioned as such, but won't the terrorist group just track him down before that?
Matsumoto mentioned he doesn't have the guts and probably will fade to obscurity, but I have a feeling the terrorists would get to him first, now that he is pretty much unprotected.
Perhaps they are afraid of his unknown 'guardian' and step down? I don't know, the whole situation just feels unresolved. Perhaps the police will put him under heavy protection or something.
Apr 7, 2021 5:38 AM
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Personally, while I like the two episodes overall, I am kinda mixed on it as a whole. It seemed way too fast paced, trying to get the exposition out there so fast you can barely even read it. Also we got to blowing up buildings and airplanes really fast. I just hope the series does not try to do so much that it ends up being a huge mess in the end. That is all I am worried about. I liked the art and animation and the music is really good which is good considering its about someone who wants to sing, but I don't know I have my reservations because it feels like it could go bad really fast.
Apr 7, 2021 4:23 PM

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Way better episode than episode 1. Really made the most out of the double episode premier.

That said, that last scene needed way more buildup. it was jarring, confusing, and out of nowhere. Almost ruined the whole episode.
Apr 8, 2021 2:40 AM
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Good show but the only issue I have so far is relying on Matsumoto for the world building and talking EXTREMELY fast, I don't have time to rewind and read the 5 lines he said within a 10 second slot.

Otherwise it seems like a promising show and hope it doesn't fall apart by the end.
Apr 8, 2021 6:01 AM

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Animation this episode was gorgeous. Second of all I didn't expect this anime to be this dark.

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Apr 8, 2021 6:07 AM

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Rezero writer + aot studio = masterpiece !!!!

Ik wit is working on this but Rezero author is also on this?

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Apr 8, 2021 6:12 AM

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Vivy is so pretty, she kinda gives off Violet Evergarden vibes.

I know Matsumoto is saying something really serious but it's so difficult to take him seriously XD him controlling that bulldozer like thing was the only part I could take him seriously...

That ending was sad, I was really looking forward to see more Vivy and Momoka moments...


Vivy is so beautiful. I really like how they didn't accentuate ‘some’ parts.


😂😂
Apr 8, 2021 9:21 AM

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I was sceptical and I still am. That said, best start this season. It's ambitous for a one cour series, but I have the feeling this one can be pulled off.

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Apr 8, 2021 11:10 AM
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The animation was absolutely gorgeous. It's been great so far, very very excited for the upcoming episodes
Apr 8, 2021 1:34 PM
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Koustubh said:
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I was expecting some cheap Music anime and got good Gore and Drama.

I will keep watching.



Re:Zero author + Wit Studio... the worst we can have is something on the level of Akudama Drive, not worse than that.


don't forget Eiji Umehara, the author of the Chaos;Child VN, who is also a writer on this anime
Apr 8, 2021 9:09 PM
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Well this was a let down. This episode was full of plot holes, inconsistencies, and that bear ruining everything while being incredibly annoying. Imagine how much better this anime would be if the bear didn't exist and Vivy/Diva received just the data dump from the future. It would give her so much more agency, make her face real challenges, and leave us guessing if she would succeed. At this point the only way to actually redeem this show for me is if it is revealed that the bear is actually an enemy AI that hijacked the data that the scientist sent back in time to Vivy/Diva. I don't know if I can keep watching just to find that out though.

On a separate note, can somebody explain to me what was going on during that building collapse scene? Since I watched it a dozen times and it still looks completely impossible to me. Here's what I saw. Vivy/Diva and Aikawa are on the landing strip-esque roof and start running down the center of the roof toward the other building. As they run the roof starts completely collapsing behind them. As they reach the end the collapse is right at their heels and we see Aikawa jump off the edge and fall into the other building while we see Vivy/Diva standing still at the edge of the collapsing building.
Here's were it gets wierd. We then see Vivy/Diva again running along that same roof that had just collapsed but it is now in one piece again and she is somehow back on the far side of the roof. So she runs across it again and it collapses behind her again. She then finishes with the very dramatic jump that ends with her landing right in front of Aikawa.
So how is that physically possible? Did I miss something obvious?
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MABfan11 said:
Koustubh said:


Re:Zero author + Wit Studio... the worst we can have is something on the level of Akudama Drive, not worse than that.


don't forget Eiji Umehara, the author of the Chaos;Child VN, who is also a writer on this anime


Oh right! He's also there. I keep on forgetting lol. Yeah, there's no way it can go to shit just like that.
Apr 8, 2021 10:42 PM

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Another great episode :)

This looks promising :D

I can't wait for the next chapter after the tower scene >:D

I watch the final scene...

I watch the final scene...

I watch...

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Apr 9, 2021 10:43 AM
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why bear Matsumoto hit Diva at the end ?
Apr 9, 2021 11:32 AM
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why bear Matsumoto hit Diva at the end ?


Because Diva saw that the plane was going to crash on the future files and tried to save it... Matsumoto cannot allow her to make massive changes to the past, so he stopped her.
Apr 9, 2021 12:33 PM
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Vivy is so beautiful. I really like how they didn't accentuate ‘some’ parts.

I totally agree. She is meant to be an idol so her physical appearance matters. Contrary to modern ideal of a malnourished idol with grotesquely accentuated bust and hips, Vivy looks very healthy and sporty and with more realistic proportions. Whoever designed her had a good sense of what a role model should look like.
Apr 9, 2021 12:40 PM
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why bear Matsumoto hit Diva at the end ?

In the pile of doom-and-gloom newspaper articles Matsumoto dumped on her to prove he's from the future, Diva found an article saying there will be a plane crash, and that Momoko will be on board when it happens. She decided to take action to prevent deaths of innocents (as she always does), but Matsumoto is against the idea. He says that you shouldn't mess with the past too much, and I'm guessing when Diva tried to save the people on the plane, Matsumoto had to stop her somehow. So, he ripped her arm off. Maybe a bit overkill but it worked. The plane crashed as the newspapers predicted, and the past and future remain aligned.
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